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  1. https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/LSpBakaMb7L
  2. Unto his Interview 5 he claims he's gotten no debunkers. After his first trailer I sent him a YouTube message and a Google+ comment. He has not answered those. Is he that absorbed or does he not know how YT and email notifications work? I didn't email or call; those are antiquated inconvenient media.
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  4. I didn't address the Earth's rotation slip below. But Cape Canaveral has been the American launching pad for rockets to exactly exploit its nearness to the equator. The equator doesn't get 1,000 mi./h winds wherefore everything on the earth spins with it. Only at far altitudes, longitudes, and latitudes does the body in motion lose track of the spin and slip under the Coriolis effect. Going east takes more work than going west, but as a function of acceleration, not velocity.
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  6. Eratosttenès (Eratosthenes) anteceded Copernicus by 1700 years.
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  8. I hope this YT video is the best medium for conversation on this subject. I will not bother with all of the radio hosts Mark has targetted who all believe the moon landing was fake. Conspiracy theorists is a misnomer as none of the bullshit they spew is theory; it is fabrication, misrepresentation, misreading, and projection. And that summarizes Mark's series.
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  10. My rebuttal copy:
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  12. https://plus.google.com/+markksargent/posts/KCBPX1ZNf4J
  13. If you don't allow comments on your videos it doesn't mean you're a coward; it means you're wrong and deranged, no better than the borderline personalities who would rant on the streets were it not for YouTube. How about, for your next video you cover all of your feedback. Cover statistics, flash it on the screen, address any criticisms. Then open the comment section so there's only one page to oversee. Bring your colleagues as backup.
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  15. That you would post all of these Clowneries on YouTube rather than ask any experts such as scientists, transporters, or even tourists shows you are likely a dropout who doesn't know how to tell between reality and fantasy, how to verify a belief, how to premise conditions for observations that should support and defy the belief, how to recognize observations that are irrelevant to the belief. Why do you hate the scientific method? Your kind reflects the American tolerated trash who are why America is with the last in first-world STEM aptitude and industry.
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  17. As it is, your videos do not allow a debate. You are more concerned with work and trolls than with responsibility and sooth. If there ever were a debate with the best on each side, you should lose. Then what shall you do? Here is my proposal: Bring your colleagues and answer every criticism that has been presented to Flat Earth in a new video. If you're honest you'd also bring those experts. Then include my message in its whole with the information below in the video or seed it in a comment thread. I shall bring no one for now. Then if either side has points not addressed by the other side, the side with the feler points loses. If Flat Earth loses, you and the other proponents must be killed. Of course the law wouldn't allow this, as the polity of a commonwealth is derived from the random noise your kind contributes. Even suicide is illegal. But you should at least verbally owe your death before this belief to show how a defective brain shall not be promoted in this world. If Round Earth loses, you get to name the penalty for me and everyone who "runs the world". But I shall not be killed; I'm worth more than anyone I know of. A'seeming that I am the only loud opposition so far, on your videos at least, this should be easy for ye.
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  19. "180 miles north of the south pole" is beyond that wall you claim that you can't show the picture of. What was Byrd's elevation? Why don't you deal with the South Pole and mention that Byrd flew over it?
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  21. Humans don't bother with fences; they're everywhere. Those questions could be posited, but not at the same time by most folk. But that string of questions relies on the false premise that there is a barrier.
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  23. (When in the AE projection the land isn't even in the same shapes as in a smaller scale. You wouldn't know what to do with those trip figures as crackpots fail at maths. You can make a greater-than comparison but that's it. Polynesian colonization of Easter Island defies your Flat Earth, which is not a theory.)
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  25. Actually no, I'm at Part 10 and I deny and defy everything you said.
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  27. Why can't Africans see Americans? Why can't anyone see the north bulge? Meteoroids refute the firmament, which was of stone, tin, or sapfire (rather than iron); the Catholic church denied meteoroids. "circle" in that translation is for "xug", which means gird, a round perimeter irrespective of dimensionality, here for the horizòn. Do astronaut selfies not count as a 180? You also call all Earth images fake so what does it matter if you do get a panorama? You are staggeringly dishonest. You can't get a latitude-dependent or longitude-dependent sun on a flat earth. Were all of the South Pole expeditioners liars? The equator exerts 3.4 μgee; for a 50kg body that is 1/6 gram-force. You didn't even know what order of magnitude the effect should be.
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  29. Yeah, this Fakeologist is dumb too; he can't even talk coherently. It's a shame your country lets common ignorant trash like this broadcast their irrationality without professional regulation or feedback. Whenever he poses a problem he can't even state a complete idea or link this idea to the idea in context. WtF is his problem with the Earth's properties? He's spooked by 11 (where?) and then spooked by even numbers? If any property tends to lead with 1s that is a consequent of Benford's law. The declination of stars by latitude was one early proof of the globe. Antarctica by treaty may not be colonized but it may be freely explored. As I suspected, hick can't spell its.
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  31. onegative alien
  32. Mar 26, 2015
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  37. Email him, he does reply, I've done it.
  38. Pete Gomez
  39. Mar 26, 2015
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  44. He answered my email.
  45. onegative alien
  46. Mar 26, 2015
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  51. Did you get the answer you wanted?
  52. ODD TV
  53. Mar 27, 2015
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  58. Emails and phone calls are antiquated? There's so much I want to say about that but I won't. I'm sorry you chose to not try and reach him. 
  59. onegative alien
  60. Mar 27, 2015
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  65. E-mail not trendy enough?
  66. Keith Keith
  67. Mar 27, 2015
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  72. You would do well to drop the invective and refute one or two of the "Flat Earth" arguments instead. I suggest you calm down and realize that minority points of view make the world a much more interesting place. 
  73. alysdexia
  74. Mar 28, 2015
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  79. +ODD TV You can want but want and can aren't the same.
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  81. Overpriced phone companies are now replaced by VoIP. Even so, voice devices don't keep logs and email has loading and router delays which is why live internet chat is better, best if the chat is integrated into the medium in question (YouTube).
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  83. try /what/ and? I chose nothing of the kind.
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  85. +Keith Keith Clues do not make arguments, alone. If he doesn't know how to prove the shape of the earth (which he doesn't), none of his videos are even clues, and they and he are wrong by default.
  86. onegative alien
  87. Mar 28, 2015
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  92. How would you intend he prove the shape of the Earth?
  93. Keith Keith
  94. Mar 28, 2015
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  99. +alysdexia I take it that you believed the world was proven to be spherical before space travel.
  100. You should prove this without using to Space travel evidence and end the debate.
  101. alysdexia
  102. Mar 28, 2015
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  107. +onegative alien I would ask him how the shape of the earth (or the shape of anything) can be proven. In order for him to do that he has to believe the size of the earth, its surface at least, is real and constant, that it's not some VR simulation.
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  109. +Keith Keith Or why don't you look it up on Wikipedia? I already gave a pointer in my rebuttal.
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  111. (Travel (< travail < trepale) is a misnomer; one only travels on foot or by oar; otherwise one goes, fares, or wends.)
  112. Keith Keith
  113. Mar 28, 2015
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  118. +alysdexia A pointer is not an argument
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  120. Mar 28, 2015
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  125. +Keith Keith It is.
  126. Keith Keith
  127. Mar 28, 2015
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  132. +alysdexia It isn't
  133. http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/pointer
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  135. alysdexia
  136. Mar 28, 2015
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  141. +Keith Keith It is: 1.3 ~ 2.
  142. Keith Keith
  143. Mar 28, 2015
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  148. +alysdexia
  149. "here are some pointers on how to go about the task" is not the same as
  150. "here are some arguments on how to go about the task"
  151. alysdexia
  152. Mar 28, 2015
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  157. +Keith Keith It is here.
  158. Keith Keith
  159. Mar 28, 2015
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  164. +alysdexia Er - If you say so
  165. onegative alien
  166. Mar 28, 2015
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  171. Keith just give up my man, if someone does not want to believe, move on, you are wasting your time.
  172. Keith Keith
  173. Mar 28, 2015
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  178. +onegative alien OK
  179. onegative alien
  180. Mar 28, 2015
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  185. Some people are hard wired not to believe the truth, plenty more people who will.
  186. alysdexia
  187. Mar 28, 2015
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  192. +onegative alien Truth doesn't even rime with true. What is true is what is trusted, by definition what one believes, subjective, whereas the sooth is what is so, independent of your belief.
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  194. Unless any of ye can answer my rebuttal, don't clutter up this thread with handwaves and reading disorders. Keith Keith acts like nothing I wrote in it exists. What kind of grades does he get?
  195. onegative alien
  196. Mar 29, 2015
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  201. Hey go and get NASA to tell you what shape the Earth is then?
  202. alysdexia
  203. Mar 29, 2015
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  208. +onegative alien Never heard of the USGS or surveying equipment?
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  210. (There's that "and" again.)
  211. onegative alien
  212. Mar 29, 2015
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  217. Did you actually watch all of Marks videos? You obviously didn't.
  218. alysdexia
  219. Mar 29, 2015
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  224. +onegative alien Every video. Mark and weirdos like you are obsessed with NASA as if anyone needs them to determine how shapes work, as if they hav existed for hundreds or thousands of years. Yet I never said anything about NASA in my comments. USGS and NASA work alone fine. That you felt the need to bring them up shows how ignorant you are of the world.
  225. onegative alien
  226. Mar 29, 2015
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  231. If we are "wierdos", why the hell are you on this thread?
  232. alysdexia
  233. Mar 29, 2015
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  238. +onegative alien I never said "wierdos". Also, it's what in hell, not the nonsensical what the hell. I'm here to get rid of the misbelievers and liars. Why are you here if you barely talk about the subject?
  239. Keith Keith
  240. Mar 29, 2015
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  245. +alysdexia Regardless of the shape of the Earth Sargent seems to be some kind of creep who wants everybody watched by the "Authority" 24 hours a day. No privacy, No Freedom - in Sargent's brave new 1984. Watch part 11 try not to puke. Eric Dubay is right about this creep 
  246. onegative alien
  247. Yesterday 1:13 AM
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  252. "Mark and wierdos like you.."
  253. alysdexia
  254. Yesterday 6:12 PM
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  259. +onegative alien I never said that, liar. You must be brain damaged.
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  261. +Keith Keith I didn't get that from Part 11 but I'll watch it again.
  262.  
  263. I didn't know "li[g]e about everything" is a rule of a coverup and want the source for that.
  264.  
  265. Falsely premises the astronauts know the moon landing was fake.
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  267. I cursed a lot of things but not the sky as the sky isn't relevant.
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  269. Mark said he didn't want the Flat Earth to be true and I don't think he said he wants the creators or watchers to be so either, but he sounds desperate. A proposal does not equal agreement. Police, prison, or church has not ended crime or criminal intent. Different masters, same habits. I do not believe in or believe equality or egalitarianism, and think the only perfect solution is to brain scan early and kill the defects so they don't bother anyone.
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  271. Freedom? Freedom is the root of crookedness.
  272. alysdexia
  273. Yesterday 8:55 PM
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  278. linkback:
  279. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9QSNROpeci_KemOcerCCEw?google_comment_id=z13otr2xvtejvz35004civcq2ou5wjm4wzg0k
  280. Mark is a damned idiot liar who doesn't heed notifications and pretends his points weren't addressed by me, that he hasn't been criticized: https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/LSpBakaMb7L.
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  282. Caretakers?! Okay, now I know you're full of shit.
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  284. He still talks about those ounces! Look up masscons and gravity of Earth. Of course you feel the 50 lbs. should be the same at the equator; you're a retarded hick who knows nothing.
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  286. (is not a guy, fag.)
  287.  
  288. "Ask a scientist sometime..." Like you ask any scientists ever!
  289.  
  290. If only a third party held the world to account, like theists already believe, these believers would behave worse than if they held themselves to account:
  291. http://google.com/search?q=%22The+Criminal%22+%22Havelock+Ellis%22+Religion;
  292. http://google.com/search?q=prison+atheists;
  293. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulJX-x2bSW0.
  294. 99.97% of prisoners are theist. 93% of scientists are atheist. Religion or faketh or theism has done nothing good for the world and opened no secrets:
  295. http://www.quora.com/What-do-atheists-think-after-seeing-people-being-healed-in-churches-like-in-the-following-videos-Can-they-claim-this-is-not-spiritual;
  296. http://google.com/search?q=prayer+hospital+study;
  297. http://whywontgodhealamputees.com;
  298. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa.
  299. Prayer kills cancer patients. Missionaries spread poverty, disease, and crime with their new morals that defy the social and sexual order. They brainwash their children with fables and suppress their critical thinking skills. They don't follow their own books: http://www.quora.com/Did-Jesus-think-he-was-being-crucified-to-save-mankind-Did-he-think-he-was-saving-mankind-from-sin/answer/Autymn-Castleton.
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  301. This damned liar says he knows for a fact [that southern nonstop planes don't go over the ocean] what he doesn't know for a fact.
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  303. Of course this hick believed in Hollow Earth too... Remember that time he said drill bits go soft when they went down several miles below? That isn't a simulation. The pressure of the overlain earth and the temperature below liqvefies everything; the inner core boundary is almost as hot as the sun, over 5000 kelvins. So a liqvid earth couldn't hold a hollow shape. But if gravity and sound are simulations, the unseen earth could be any shape, eh? Then either inertia must also be fake, or the Earth's rotational speeddown after the Banda Aceh earthquake and speedup after the Japan earthquake must disagree with calculations.
  304. alysdexia
  305. 12:03 AM
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  310. linkback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBsoX1UXDw&google_comment_id=z12hyzhaouzlghuwq04civcq2ou5wjm4wzg0k
  311. The pýramids and other huge monoliths were constructed with cast "geopolymer concrete". The former's use and evolution are not unknown.
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  313. Epic of Gilgamesh dates to 1700s BCE. Càtep Hinom scrolls date to 600s BCE, more than 800 years later. The Tànàc plagiarized the Avesta and Atra-Xasis.
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  315. Reincarnation doesn't follow a clock or timeloop, and certainly doesn't need 500 or 3000 years.
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  317. Don't you float in the astral planes? What's flat?
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  319. Of cellular division and reproduction, the "morphogenetic field" has not been proven.
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  321. Spiritus is Latin for breath or booze, a mistranslation of pneýma (vis, wit; virialis), itself a mistranslation of ŕuax (aneme, wind; anemodè). As a prime mover, especially for life, in medieval times it was replaced with humor; in modern times it was replaced by hormones, neurotransmitters, and ATP.
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  323. All religions' Scriptures are comic books, novels, fictions and fantasies. They are not "astral history". There are 100s if not 1000s of mistakes in them scientific, historic, mathematic, moral, literal, and internal. Laymen pick and choose which verses to believe in and which to ignore, all of the manuscripts that never made it to canon also. Writers and believers for these and like Lily make shit up, retrodictively, and think that it has anything to do with reality. Ask them to antedict a set of new observations.
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  325. Maybe a fish egg in shape, not a bird egg.
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  327. The Vatican doesn't control everything.
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  329. Mark the hick doesn't know what a theory is and says something is possible when it's not. Go back to video games.
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  331. Don't ask Mark about meteor craters but about meteors. Where do they come from?
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  333. Solar panels draw more power than geothermal engines. Listen how he makes shit up and can't do the maths.
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  335. What's so special about 2012? The Mayan calendar long count's leap days were disregarded and the count already ended some time in the 90s.
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  337. Maybe /you/ don't get new ideas.
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  339. If you believe they faked the moon landing, read the explanations for alleged anomalies and explain how they fail. Telescopes and radios were trained on the launchers. Where did the rockets go? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_S-band#Interception.
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  341. There is no Flat Earth Theory. Flat Earth is not a theory.
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  343. There never was a Matrix.
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  345. You act like parallel universes are intelligent. I think the astral levels are in the far-field and staggered in the past and future by TIQM; some may be in other universes, which can be accessed by the Scharnhorst effect, maybe in the potential minima of iron and nickel nuclei which must pump the housing into two populations, one with a 0-J VEV, and spin a wormhole* either directional or isotropic as artificial Hubble flow.
  346. *without a singularity; singularities and black holes are the biggest scientific blunder ever, a fiction that breaks special relativity and conservation laws: http://www.quora.com/Have-the-known-true-laws-of-physics-ever-been-broken/answer/Autymn-Castleton; http://www.quora.com/What-role-if-any-do-supermassive-blackholes-play-in-the-formation-of-galaxies/answer/Autymn-Castleton.
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  348. This Lily doesn't distinguish between quality and quantity of a person's value.
  349.  
  350. The Earth's motion is detected by the Coriolis effect. Velocity is relative but acceleration is not relative. Foucault's pendulum and gýroscopes tell the daily motion of the Earth, and distinguish between the Earth's motion and the alleged sky's rotation.
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  352. The OT/NT endtimes were 2400 years ago then 1950 years ago, both failures.
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  354. Flat Earth Clues thread linkback: https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/LSpBakaMb7L.
  355. alysdexia
  356. 3:03 AM
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  361. linkback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtROI5EvxL0&google_comment_id=z123y30omwfmtl1ik04civcq2ou5wjm4wzg0k
  362. What freak doesn't see landmasses below that shouldn't be there? "99.9%"? More bullshit from Mark.
  363.  
  364. Presupposes a barrier for nukes. Paranoia. Pareidolia. Reification. Fabrication.
  365.  
  366. Presupposes what Earth shouldn't look like and criticizes film on that. Prevarication. Goalpost shifting.
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  368. Ignores that if there were a north bulge, which there isn't, everyone could see it, especially on the equator, whereas on the north nobody could see the south.
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  370. Okay, The Hatter also believes the moon landings were fake. Mark only goes on interviews or is invited to interviews whose hosts are too retarded to understand reality, who base their beliefs on their limited public education. I wonder if these are communications majors.
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  372. Is still wrong about the treaty. At least he provided one experiment for the Flat Earth. He doesn't believe past circumnavigators, doesn't mention but presumably doesn't trust stellar and magnètic navigation either.
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  374. (is still not a guy, fag.)
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  376. "God bless"?! The Hatter is a cretin as well. "God" is translated from Vulgate Deus where in Hellènic it was only in the lowercase definite "ho theos" for "the god". There has always been a plurality of gods in the classics. Bless is short for bledse, Englisc for sprinkle blood on a pagan animal sacrifice. No, go bledse yourself.
  377. http://www.quora.com/log/revision/22947773
  378. http://google.com/search?q=religiosity+education
  379. http://google.com/search?q=%22Religious+Knowledge+Survey%22
  380. http://google.com/search?q=%22failed+prophecies%22
  381. http://godisimaginary.com
  382. http://google.com/search?q=%22The+Criminal%22+%22Havelock+Ellis%22+Religion
  383. http://evilbible.com
  384. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
  385. http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/DarkBibleContents.htm
  386. http://google.com/search?q=%22How+many+has+God+killed%22
  387. http://classic.net.bible.org/universal.php?s=evil+AND+create
  388. http://classic.net.bible.org/universal.php?s=evil+AND+spirit
  389. http://google.com/search?q=prayer+hospital+study
  390. http://whywontgodhealamputees.com
  391.  
  392. linkback to main series criticism thread: https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/LSpBakaMb7L
  393.  
  394. https://plus.google.com/116394077618822016147/posts/D1MMsCjNoN1
  395. It sounds like high school was as far as you got.
  396.  
  397. The sun occupies a finite projected area, much wider than the "point" sources of other stars.
  398. Only still watter is level to a masscon.
  399. Liht doesn't travel (< travail < trepale) but go, fare, or wend; one travels on foot or by oar. Liht only goes straiht without a field or refractive index.
  400. If shadows aren't parallel, the source isn't infinitely far.
  401. Common sense is wrong.
  402. You can't feel a speed; you only feel accelerations.
  403. Where is your maths for the angle the plane makes?
  404. What?
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  406. linkback to main series criticism thread: https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/LSpBakaMb7L
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  408. onegative alien
  409. 5:01 AM
  410. And I quote "Every video. Mark and wierdos like you...". I'm brain damaged? You must have some form of dementia if you cant remember what you have typed a few posts up. I don't know why you are so hostile, we should at least agree we have no clue EXACTLY what the Earth looks like, being rude to each other achieves squat.
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  412. alysdexia
  413. 5:15 AM
  414. +onegative alien You did not quote me; you made that up.
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  416. You don't even know what cant means.
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  418. Why should we agree on nonsense?
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  421. My confutation of Eric Dubay's video
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  423. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1961267
  424. >>1952448 (OP)
  425. See my confutation of YouTube's Mark Sargent's Flat Earth Clues series: https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/+markksargent/posts/KCBPX1ZNf4J.
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  427. There used to be a longer one with my gathering of interview reviews under the full repost at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le-92to5qZ0 but it looks deleted or hidden. This one became private: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtROI5EvxL0.
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  429. Additional points: The treaty doesn't ban a trip to Antarctica or the south pole; the south pole exists; if you needed to go west or east on the AP you must turn the whole way as all paths lead south.
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  431. Dr. Math disagrees with you about the curvature, which we can see. Can you Google it or must I post the link?
  432.  
  433. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963091
  434. Borderline Dubay fails at his observations. Foucault's pendulum, gýroscopes, missiles, bullets prove the motion of the earth instead of the sky.
  435.  
  436. Why does he tell a parabolic relation for the dropoff of the earth?
  437.  
  438. A round window cannot show a round flat earth for all longitudes and latitudes, and I doubt a refractor with such curvature could admit enouh liht to see the earth or anything.
  439.  
  440. Mirages extend the path of rays when air's density makes a pocket. Where are the maths?
  441.  
  442. Trains don't ascend a equipotential curve!
  443.  
  444. Listen to these clowns ignore maths and repeat assertions what they're supposed to see.
  445.  
  446. Sure, the public is scientifically ignorant, especially Americans.
  447.  
  448. The motion of the mag. core only refers to the mag. pole, not the true pole. And the compass observation is a strawman therefrom. You'd take a timelapse of the sky to verify you're at a pole.
  449.  
  450. Another fake "they" who don't want you to see the poles.
  451.  
  452. Planes and ships do not constantly turn to stay east and west.
  453. (~19 minutes)
  454.  
  455. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963224
  456. >>1963091 (You)
  457. (~20 minutes)
  458. tangential paranoia
  459.  
  460. no maths for southern circumnavigation errors
  461.  
  462. Cretin ignores raindrops and van de Graaf generators which are not flat or level.
  463.  
  464. Shows a round window that slihtly bends the earth image, but at no time shows a flat earth.
  465.  
  466. Shows a "GoPro" camera of the earth that is curved when the land meets the centre.
  467.  
  468. Mentions Masonic gesture like the borderline crackpot he is.
  469. (~ 31 minutes)
  470.  
  471. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963320
  472. >>1963224 (You)
  473. (~33 minutes)
  474. Says space is open but doesn't prove it. The matter doesn't leave to another univers…
  475.  
  476. Mentions those fake bubbles as if he were there, which don't even go the same direction.
  477.  
  478. Rockets do not boost "one side" of a craft.
  479.  
  480. They use radar
  481.  
  482. Ignores density of upper sky beside temperature. Why doesn't a plasma melt glass lamps or plasma globes?
  483.  
  484. Asserts fakeness of satellites and imagery. Compare the elevation of satellites to the breadth of the earth, then find the field of view, then find the total images that need to be composited.
  485.  
  486. Cretin Dubay doesn't understand equipotentials and the shape of gravity again. It seems many of these flat-brainers don't understand gravity isn't flat.
  487. (~41 minutes)
  488.  
  489. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963406
  490. >>1963320 (You)
  491. (~42 minutes)
  492. Coriolis deviation only applies for great paths, not for orbits about the airport. The onboard computer keeps the plane at the same speed despite deviations, doesn't it?
  493.  
  494. How does the earth go northeast?! Acceleration is not relative.
  495.  
  496. Hick can't spell its or won't, and thus doesn't know what it's and wont mean.
  497.  
  498. There's no better model than layers of the earth.
  499.  
  500. Cretin Dubay liges about nonreality of ball magnèts; I own a few. Magnèts don't giv a fuck what shape they are.
  501.  
  502. Rants about pseudoscientists when he's one, then rants about spending that he's too dumb to understand.
  503. (~51 minutes)
  504.  
  505. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963503
  506. >>1963406 (You)
  507. (~55 minutes)
  508. Asserts there were good flat earth-centric arguments.
  509.  
  510. Asserts that naked eye should see stars shift over 5 months. They do shift, but not with the naked eye.
  511.  
  512. Talks about rotten meat nonsense.
  513.  
  514. Claims the moon is flat, despite nutation and eclipses, and is a lamp, despite eclipses solar and lunar.
  515.  
  516. Caption liges about flat horizòn again.
  517. (~101 minutes)
  518. [self promotion snipped]
  519.  
  520. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963506
  521. >>1963503 (You)
  522. 6 months
  523.  
  524. http://8ch.net/pol/res/1952448.html#q1963945
  525. >>1952448 (You)
  526. >101 minutes
  527. Heh oops, 1 hour, 1 minute.
  528.  
  529.  
  530. https://plus.google.com/b/115025073359073355980/115025073359073355980/posts/PGLfrNKRFcn
  531. alysdexia
  532. commented on a video on YouTube.
  533. Shared publicly - May 14, 2015
  534. +Cae sar The Antarctic treaty proves flat earthers are liars who misrepresent it and that all of Antarctica especially the south pole exists.
  535.  
  536. Cae sar
  537. May 15, 2015
  538. +alysdexia no one ever crossed antarctica from one side to the other...doesnt this make you think?
  539.  
  540. alysdexia
  541. May 15, 2015
  542. +Cae sar It makes me think why you make shit up.
  543.  
  544. Cae sar
  545. May 15, 2015
  546. +alysdexia pls correct me if im wrong thx
  547.  
  548. alysdexia
  549. May 15, 2015
  550. +Cae sar http://google.com/search?q=Antarctica+circumnavigation; http://google.com/search?q=%22south+pole%22+%22time+lapse%22; http://google.com/images?q=%22south+pole%22+%22time+lapse%22
  551.  
  552. Cae sar
  553. May 15, 2015
  554. ? jon sanders? really? hehe
  555.  
  556. Yonnick Hackshaw
  557. May 17, 2015
  558. +alysdexia this just shows that the ether above us is moving
  559.  
  560. alysdexia
  561. Yesterday 3:06 PM
  562. +Yonnick Hackshaw As I said in other comments, the Coriolis effect of Foucault's pendulum, gýroscopes, bullets, and missiles prove the earth moves instead of the sky. Velocity is relative but acceleration is not.
  563.  
  564. Cae sar
  565. 10:01 AM
  566. +alysdexia all debunked...sry try again 
  567.  
  568. alysdexia
  569. 10:46 AM
  570. +Cae sar It's not, liar. Dubay said "wind". What a fuckwit.
  571.  
  572. Cae sar
  573. 10:55 AM
  574. +alysdexia here this video is excellent showing how wrong these caims are..pls watch it http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2po8kv
  575.  
  576. alysdexia
  577. 2:18 PM
  578. +Cae sar
  579. One rotating video, allegedly fake, without source, is not statistics nor argument.
  580.  
  581. The sun and stars are _not_ the only indication of earth's rotation. That was my point.
  582.  
  583. faring, going, or wending, not travelling. One travels &lt; travail &lt; trepale on foot or oar.
  584.  
  585. Then it shows the as-expected flat-brainer assertion that the earth doesn't spin, here in a text wall along with other denials of NASA images and moon landing. Does he prove any of it? Whatever is claimed here has been repeatedly debunked.
  586.  
  587. A flat earth _cannot_ hide the sun, moon, and stars which go past the ground line. This claimant ignores the south pole like they all do. A flat earth _cannot_ hide other continents.
  588.  
  589. Then the bum asks for proof the earth spins, when it's in the title, and that gravity is a "force like..magnetic force". All rockets and satellites rely on the theory.
  590.  
  591. So he denies Newton's link between gravity on earth and gravity between heavenly bodies, and asserts NASA never went there, above 25 km. Where does this delusion come from? Balloons climb farther than that.
  592.  
  593. The cretin criticizes the constant earth's tilt angle. If he took a basic class in inertia, he'd understand why it's constant [somewhat]. Then he claims "they" forgot about a "time adjustment" for noon every six months. Cretins like this make shit up as they go along. Then he doesn't understand how gravity behaves and asks about earth's speed despite the "vast and expanding universe???" It's like he was home-schooled where his home was a cave or something.
  594.  
  595. The clown then brings out a toy magnvtic earth, and claims gravity behaves like that toy (with two poles in each body), when it doesn't, that a body keeps a thin (fine) line between life and death. It doesn't, as the assumption is wrong. Gravity goes as inverse square, and a dipole as inverse cube.
  596.  
  597. He wants the cannon claim verified again, but doesn't believe rockets did exactly that. When meteors regularly fall to earth in the reverse direction. I would like to see a hýpervolic cannonball as well. They shot a steel plate at six times escape velocity and never found it; it needs to be heavier and slower so they can track it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plumbbob#Propulsion_of_steel_plate_cap.
  598.  
  599. Then he says everything falls to earth but we don't know the cause. We know about gravity fluctuations, on earth and other bodies, and how they are directly linked to masscons which are directly linked to elemental composition. So gravital acceleration and inertial acceleration agree.
  600.  
  601. Then he asserts earth's rotation is assumed and brainwash; he did not deal with the exempla I gave you.
  602.  
  603. Then he says a sextant found the sun and moon to be 60km wide and 5,000 km above, without proof. He uses that silly spotlamp animation again where both the sun and moon go the same speed and are even with the ground.
  604.  
  605. He again said analemma, with a greater southern loop, proves a flat earth. Wrong again, this anarithmetic cretin doesn't know how analemma works. Most observations of the sun are from the north and should show a greater south; but on the equator the loops should be even. He asserts they change the loops so they're even. Here's another thing this liar didn't know: On the equator the crescent moon points "up" and "down". Then he liges in the south the northern loop is smaller. He says scientists explain the loops by earth's oval path, again without a source. It's the tilt, not the orbit.
  606.  
  607. He confuses south for below.
  608.  
  609. He asserts the sun can't make a reflection for 100s of miles on a ball earth, again without mathematics. Then he appeals to belief in hearts! over theories. Theories are proven. Hearts pump blood.
  610.  
  611. He poses a statement by Neil dGT and a rifleman as if they contradict. We are not a bullet.
  612.  
  613. A Muslim is shown who says the earth should come towards a plane if the plane came still. That depends on what still means. The plane already began still with respect to the ground. If it were to be still with respect to the axis, that takes work which must be supplied to the plane. A plane still with respect to the axis isn't still with respect to the ground. Coriolis only slips for far displacements; the plane should be 100s of miles above ground for the effect to creep up soon. Otherwise, the plane also has mass and shares the earth's momentum and velocity near the ground's moment arm.
  614.  
  615. He attacks this poor rifleman a lot, but neither of them is a scientist. It looks like he took a clip of a cable show as if it were a journal paper. But none of the shots contradict what the rifleman said. East and west shots should not deflect lesser than north and south unless they're on the equator.
  616.  
  617. The Zetetic can Google what I gave you to see the south pole. He also liges that no one can access Antarctica.
  618.  
  619. I'll disregard his speculative StackExchange that went nowhere.
  620.  
  621. Winters gave the explicit deflection for 1000 m as 1 [arc]minute. His aim was like corrections within a foot-wide target. The repetitive clown wouldn't show the precision of the BRL charts, and the reporter didn't quantify what no correction meant. This clown attacks both of them but never shows experiments that contradict Coriolis. He asserts shots should be off by 100s m instead of 1 inch; of course he had no maths for this; he likely mistook velocity for acceleration again.
  622.  
  623. The Sumatran and Japanese earthquakes sped down and up the earth's rotation or day.
  624.  
  625. My comments for Eric Dubay and Mark Sargent:
  626. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77j9rUuky4&lc=z13ngtnjsrjgf1lbw04civcq2ou5wjm4wzg0k
  627. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R77j9rUuky4&lc=z12vfh2g0rm0cbid423qu5kpalj3wlbbv04
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