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  1. mentho
  2.  
  3. I want to unsubscribe from this alliance. if the ally intervenes in the fight. it's about VBerd
  4.  
  5. 17.07.18, 23:17:42
  6.  
  7. SALINAS
  8.  
  9. Vberd is very nice guy.
  10.  
  11. 17.07.18, 23:17:46
  12.  
  13. dusk21
  14.  
  15. VBerd, Сулик, Jeser, Mev4ik, and of course above all Нико - thanks to them I have what I have...
  16.  
  17. 17.07.18, 23:19:58
  18.  
  19. dusk21
  20.  
  21. If you are having problems, then you are bad at communication.
  22.  
  23. 17.07.18, 23:20:42
  24.  
  25. dusk21
  26.  
  27. To get help, you have to ASK.
  28.  
  29. 17.07.18, 23:21:02
  30.  
  31. mentho
  32.  
  33. he is not nice to see that I am attacking pirates, and despite everything he has attacked. I lost 40k vespene by him
  34.  
  35. 17.07.18, 23:21:25
  36.  
  37. dusk21
  38.  
  39. If he would see, he would recall
  40.  
  41. 17.07.18, 23:21:46
  42.  
  43. dusk21
  44.  
  45. Everything you say - didn't happen, unless you give battle reports and log of how much recyclers got home if you got debris stolen
  46.  
  47. 17.07.18, 23:22:37
  48.  
  49. dusk21
  50.  
  51. I wasted much more gas because of situations like these
  52.  
  53. 17.07.18, 23:23:01
  54.  
  55. dusk21
  56.  
  57. These rules are not written by me, but by the blood of our allies,
  58. caught in the brutal millstones of revenge.
  59.  
  60. 1. Do not attack an alliance stations without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  61. 2. Do not attack asteroids without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  62. 3. Do not contaminate the mine without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  63. 4. ALL methods of war allowed by xcraft rules are allowed
  64. 5. Infection of mines, demolition of moons and asteroids, stations of another alliance
  65. strictly after agreement with the head of the alliance.
  66. 6. We attack players that:
  67. 6.1 Are inactive;
  68. 6.2 Are in vacation mode for more than 28 days;
  69. 6.3 Do not hide the combat fleet on planets, asteroids, moons;
  70. 6.4 Who have resources on the planets, moons that amoun are 2 times greater than the losses of defense;
  71. who have more resources in gas than your losses on defense.
  72. 6.5 who has more resources on planets, moons than 1 million in gas or equivalent;
  73. 7. Attack on one member of the alliance is perceived as an attack on the entire alliance;
  74. 8. Do not get the drama from real life into the game - there are other wars here, armies, empires.
  75. 9. We follow the rules of Xcraft.
  76. Any ban from the administration of the project confirms the violation of Xcraft rules.
  77. and may be an excuse for dismissal from the alliance.
  78. 10. Have to have at least 3 planets in the alliance network (you do not need to change the capital)
  79. 11. For espionage in favor of another alliance - dismissal from the alliance with all the following consequences.
  80. 12. For the absence of a player more than 27 days in the game without registration of the vacation mode
  81. as well as for being in the vacation mode for more than 9 months causes
  82. removal of the player from the alliance, if possible, nullification (destruction of the fleet and removal of resources)
  83. of planets, so that the enemy doesn't get the resources.
  84. 13. If the player is in the vacation mode - he is removed from the alliance chats
  85. and is restored as soon as he returns to the game - at his own request by contacting leader of the alliance.
  86. 14. Each player of our alliance is obliged to hide TASTY (fleet, resources, mines and destructable buildings).
  87.  
  88. 17.07.18, 23:23:02
  89.  
  90. dusk21
  91.  
  92. Also who got to the pirate first, it is his!
  93.  
  94. 17.07.18, 23:23:58
  95.  
  96. Slaasher
  97.  
  98. thats why stealth fighters rule
  99.  
  100. 17.07.18, 23:24:35
  101.  
  102. dusk21
  103.  
  104. If you have proof that you got there first, you have him added as a friend and he saw your flight, then you have to post proof and ask for compensation.
  105.  
  106. 17.07.18, 23:24:43
  107.  
  108. mentho
  109.  
  110. thank you for such a dishonest alliance.
  111.  
  112. 17.07.18, 23:26:04
  113.  
  114. dusk21
  115.  
  116. edited
  117.  
  118. 17.07.18, 23:31:31
  119.  
  120. dusk21
  121.  
  122. These rules are not written by me, but by the blood of our allies,
  123. caught in the brutal millstones of revenge.
  124.  
  125. 1. Do not attack an alliance stations without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  126. 2. Do not attack asteroids without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  127. 3. Do not contaminate the mine without a reason coordinated with alliance leader.
  128. 4. ALL methods of war allowed by xcraft rules are allowed
  129. 5. Infection of mines, demolition of moons and asteroids, stations of another alliance
  130. strictly after agreement with the head of the alliance.
  131. 6. We attack players that:
  132. 6.1 Are inactive;
  133. 6.2 Are in vacation mode for more than 28 days;
  134. 6.3 Do not hide the combat fleet on planets, asteroids, moons;
  135. 6.4 Who has resources on the planets, moons that amounts to 2 times greater than the losses against defense or
  136. who has more resources in gas than your losses on defense.
  137. 6.5 who has more resources on planets, moons more than 1 million in gas or equivalent;
  138. 7. Attack on one member of the alliance is perceived as an attack on the entire alliance;
  139. 8. Do not get the drama from real life into the game - there are other wars here, armies, empires.
  140. 9. We follow the rules of Xcraft.
  141. Any ban from the administration of the project confirms the violation of Xcraft rules.
  142. and may be the reason for dismissal from the alliance.
  143. 10. Have to have at least 3 planets in the alliance network (you do not need to change the capital or leave planets you have,
  144. because network might change due to different events/attacks)
  145. 11. For espionage in favor of another alliance - dismissal from the alliance with all the following consequences.
  146. 12. For the absence of a player more than 27 days in the game without registration of the vacation mode
  147. as well as for being in the vacation mode for more than 9 months causes
  148. removal of the player from the alliance, if possible, nullification of planets, so that the enemy doesn't get the resources
  149. (destruction of the fleet and removal of resources).
  150. 13. If the player is in the vacation mode - he is removed from the alliance chats
  151. and is restored as soon as he returns to the game - at his own request by contacting leader of the alliance.
  152. 14. Each player of our alliance is obliged to hide TASTY (fleet, resources, mines and destructable buildings).
  153. 15. If an aly or a memeber of allied alliance got to the pirate first, he is the legit owner of the debris and your gas expenses
  154. are not eligible to compensation of any kind (not that if you don't have alied aliance member added as a friend he won't see your shared fleet).
  155. If you have gotten there first and got your debris stolen for some reason please report to higher rank active player for help, prefferebly the leader.
  156.  
  157. 17.07.18, 23:31:32
  158.  
  159. dusk21
  160.  
  161. Dishonest? Dishonest about what?
  162.  
  163. 17.07.18, 23:31:51
  164.  
  165. Slaasher
  166.  
  167. only friends count as "allies" in case of sharing a fleet?
  168.  
  169. 17.07.18, 23:33:11
  170.  
  171. dusk21
  172.  
  173. Yes, that's why hunters should add members of allied alliances, and try not to cause problems
  174.  
  175. 17.07.18, 23:35:10
  176.  
  177. dusk21
  178.  
  179. if you feel like you lost a lot of gas
  180.  
  181. 17.07.18, 23:35:18
  182.  
  183. mentho
  184.  
  185. because I would be there first, but I gave up to not lose ships
  186.  
  187. 17.07.18, 23:35:20
  188.  
  189. dusk21
  190.  
  191. JUST ASK FOR THEM TO SHARE A BIT
  192.  
  193. 17.07.18, 23:35:25
  194.  
  195. dusk21
  196.  
  197. If they agree, send recyclers
  198.  
  199. 17.07.18, 23:35:36
  200.  
  201. dusk21
  202.  
  203. easy
  204.  
  205. 17.07.18, 23:35:38
  206.  
  207. dusk21
  208.  
  209. EASY
  210.  
  211. 17.07.18, 23:35:42
  212.  
  213. dusk21
  214.  
  215. After that 100% proof that they are nice guys incoming
  216.  
  217. 17.07.18, 23:35:56
  218.  
  219. dusk21
  220.  
  221. Not to lose ships?
  222.  
  223. 17.07.18, 23:36:14
  224.  
  225. dusk21
  226.  
  227. to what?
  228.  
  229. 17.07.18, 23:36:16
  230.  
  231. dusk21
  232.  
  233. ghosts?
  234.  
  235. 17.07.18, 23:36:18
  236.  
  237. dusk21
  238.  
  239. ????
  240.  
  241. 17.07.18, 23:36:19
  242.  
  243. dusk21
  244.  
  245. If you would get there first, how did you know that he is on the pirate???????
  246.  
  247. 17.07.18, 23:36:59
  248.  
  249. dusk21
  250.  
  251. I thought so :)
  252.  
  253. 17.07.18, 23:43:43
  254.  
  255. mentho
  256.  
  257. what an alliance. it does not help in the fight but puts logs under your feet
  258.  
  259. 17.07.18, 23:46:15
  260.  
  261. dusk21
  262.  
  263. Did you organize a collective attack?)
  264.  
  265. 17.07.18, 23:48:46
  266.  
  267. dusk21
  268.  
  269. Did you take initiative on anything?
  270.  
  271. 17.07.18, 23:48:54
  272.  
  273. dusk21
  274.  
  275. I am requesting the log of the fight of the pirate that you claim to belong to you, which I proved not to be the case
  276.  
  277. 17.07.18, 23:49:32
  278.  
  279. dusk21
  280.  
  281. If you would get there first, I repeat for the 2nd time - you would not see anything coming
  282.  
  283. 17.07.18, 23:50:08
  284.  
  285. dusk21
  286.  
  287. only after the fight, if you would be serious right now and understand how the game works, you would post the battle report.
  288.  
  289. 17.07.18, 23:50:41
  290.  
  291. FloraI
  292.  
  293. It may all be a missunderstanding (wait) Sometimes these things happen when two or more players atack the same pirate :| a
  294.  
  295. 17.07.18, 23:51:47
  296.  
  297. mentho
  298.  
  299. Your fleet (1 Space wanderer) sent to coordinates [92:897:5] with mission "Defense" returned to planet New [94:896:8] and delivered:
  300.  
  301. 0 metal (now 14 678 metal)
  302. 0 minerals ( now 116 756 minerals)
  303. 0 vespene (now 110 073 vespene)
  304.  
  305. 17.07.18, 23:51:50
  306.  
  307. dusk21
  308.  
  309. That's not a battle report
  310.  
  311. 17.07.18, 23:52:31
  312.  
  313. FloraI
  314.  
  315. Show the one where you ataked the pirate :)
  316.  
  317. 17.07.18, 23:53:11
  318.  
  319. dusk21
  320.  
  321. f24b6ff8c8f64b0b1ce30c115f42a999 this is battlereport
  322.  
  323. 17.07.18, 23:53:23
  324.  
  325. Slaasher
  326.  
  327. you dont send out your spacewanderer on defend mission
  328.  
  329. 17.07.18, 23:53:42
  330.  
  331. dusk21
  332.  
  333. If you don't have this, pirate cannot be yours under any circumstances
  334.  
  335. 17.07.18, 23:53:45
  336.  
  337. Slaasher
  338.  
  339. that only atrackts others to attack it
  340.  
  341. 17.07.18, 23:53:59
  342.  
  343. dusk21
  344.  
  345. +
  346.  
  347. 17.07.18, 23:54:07
  348.  
  349. dusk21
  350.  
  351. And the part of the log you gave, this type of the log is used to prove that you didn't recycle anything
  352.  
  353. 17.07.18, 23:55:02
  354.  
  355. dusk21
  356.  
  357. We look to the battle report, see how much garbage it leaves, then compare it to what you got home
  358.  
  359. 17.07.18, 23:55:23
  360.  
  361. dusk21
  362.  
  363. The one about wanderer is useless, because it cannot recycle
  364.  
  365. 17.07.18, 23:55:43
  366.  
  367. FloraI
  368.  
  369. Search for the one where you atacked the pirate :)
  370.  
  371. 17.07.18, 23:55:52
  372.  
  373. dusk21
  374.  
  375. He didn't, I can assure you that)
  376.  
  377. 17.07.18, 23:56:49
  378.  
  379. FloraI
  380.  
  381. It will be in "combat reports" (nod)
  382.  
  383. 17.07.18, 23:56:59
  384.  
  385. dusk21
  386.  
  387. He said he recalled the fleet
  388.  
  389. 17.07.18, 23:57:17
  390.  
  391. FloraI
  392.  
  393. oh...I see :|
  394.  
  395. 17.07.18, 23:57:36
  396.  
  397. mentho
  398.  
  399. I gave the defense waiting for the recyclers
  400.  
  401. 17.07.18, 23:57:40
  402.  
  403. FloraI
  404.  
  405. but did you fought the pirate or not?
  406.  
  407. 17.07.18, 23:57:54
  408.  
  409. dusk21
  410.  
  411. but somehow he said that he would get there first even though he saw a member of friendly alliance on the pirate
  412.  
  413. 17.07.18, 23:57:54
  414.  
  415. dusk21
  416.  
  417. proof or didn't happen
  418.  
  419. 17.07.18, 23:57:59
  420.  
  421. tribun79
  422.  
  423. alliance logs, battle report 62, 102, 145 are linked to mentho Was it one of this?
  424.  
  425. 17.07.18, 23:58:06
  426.  
  427. eatmygas
  428.  
  429. did they recently change the defense capability of pirates? I keep loosing a few stealth fighters now and a little bit back I never lost any ships
  430.  
  431. 17.07.18, 23:58:15
  432.  
  433. dusk21
  434.  
  435. No idea, he didn't post anything
  436.  
  437. 17.07.18, 23:58:21
  438.  
  439. dusk21
  440.  
  441. Yeah, I found it, you should have stayed on the field and messaged VBerd
  442.  
  443. 17.07.18, 23:59:33
  444.  
  445. tribun79
  446.  
  447. you can attack, but its not going into defense afterwards ... i guess, and flying home and back to debris take a long time
  448.  
  449. 17.07.18, 23:59:55
  450.  
  451. FloraI
  452.  
  453. 597b398bc68b633afcf922c73bb8f5f5
  454.  
  455. 18.07.18, 00:00:01
  456.  
  457. dusk21
  458.  
  459. But I guess it's too much of a challenge to be nice and try to deal with the situation. And then get rude about it here, call an alliance names
  460.  
  461. 18.07.18, 00:00:04
  462.  
  463. FloraI
  464.  
  465. ok, so there is the coordenates of mentho and the batle...he just doesn´t know how to recicle pirates properly :|
  466.  
  467. 18.07.18, 00:00:33
  468.  
  469. dusk21
  470.  
  471. And is scared that friendly alliance is gonna kill his ships x_x
  472.  
  473. 18.07.18, 00:01:04
  474.  
  475. dusk21
  476.  
  477. Friendly alliance cannot attack you
  478.  
  479. 18.07.18, 00:01:15
  480.  
  481. FloraI
  482.  
  483. ISS is friendly?
  484.  
  485. 18.07.18, 00:01:53
  486.  
  487. dusk21
  488.  
  489. They can get off only get your recyclers without combat support sent together of the garbage
  490.  
  491. 18.07.18, 00:01:58
  492.  
  493. dusk21
  494.  
  495. with attack mission that is
  496.  
  497. 18.07.18, 00:02:22
  498.  
  499. FloraI
  500.  
  501. Ah ok, I see we have a non agression pact with them
  502.  
  503. 18.07.18, 00:02:35
  504.  
  505. dusk21
  506.  
  507. if they have recycle mission or defense, you will keep recycling without any trouble
  508.  
  509. 18.07.18, 00:02:40
  510.  
  511. dusk21
  512.  
  513. Yes, they are also awesome help a lot of time
  514.  
  515. 18.07.18, 00:02:54
  516.  
  517. dusk21
  518.  
  519. when you need a high ranked player to help
  520.  
  521. 18.07.18, 00:03:01
  522.  
  523. dusk21
  524.  
  525. Always very responsive, helpful and shares debris
  526.  
  527. 18.07.18, 00:03:15
  528.  
  529. dusk21
  530.  
  531. Just please, ask them to !!!
  532.  
  533. 18.07.18, 00:03:25
  534.  
  535. FloraI
  536.  
  537. but still, Vberd stole his debris...didn´t help him like you are stating :|
  538.  
  539. 18.07.18, 00:03:33
  540.  
  541. dusk21
  542.  
  543. No Mentho
  544.  
  545. 18.07.18, 00:03:37
  546.  
  547. dusk21
  548.  
  549. In your case, you write VBerd a message and ask them to give slight compensation, but it won't be full compensation
  550.  
  551. 18.07.18, 00:04:03
  552.  
  553. dusk21
  554.  
  555. cause your use of wanderer was unjustified, fleet was too small for it
  556.  
  557. 18.07.18, 00:04:17
  558.  
  559. dusk21
  560.  
  561. Your gas expenses should have been around 10k
  562.  
  563. 18.07.18, 00:04:37
  564.  
  565. dusk21
  566.  
  567. max
  568.  
  569. 18.07.18, 00:04:42
  570.  
  571. dusk21
  572.  
  573. Wanderer consumes 100x more fuel than battleship
  574.  
  575. 18.07.18, 00:05:05
  576.  
  577. dusk21
  578.  
  579. and that pirate fleet needed 20 battleships
  580.  
  581. 18.07.18, 00:05:24
  582.  
  583. FloraI
  584.  
  585. Guys, we have an alliance forum, where we can post all of our questions about the game in english and someone will answer. :) And later yo can go there to read and learn stuff too, about all kinds of things (wait)
  586.  
  587. 18.07.18, 00:09:26
  588.  
  589. FloraI
  590.  
  591. It´s very cool (sun)
  592.  
  593. 18.07.18, 00:09:46
  594.  
  595. Ear
  596.  
  597. dammit those scourges, lost my fleet
  598.  
  599. 18.07.18, 00:25:37
  600.  
  601. Ear
  602.  
  603. I really can't babysit every attack on pirates...
  604.  
  605. 18.07.18, 00:27:49
  606.  
  607. PhoenixOne
  608.  
  609. yea, they are unpredictable...little fuckers
  610.  
  611. 18.07.18, 00:28:13
  612.  
  613. Ear
  614.  
  615. And the some a**hole steals the remains of my fleet
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