Akai internal politics

21:17:33: <Tits> Just so you know the mentality and approach I want the Akai navy to be taking?
21:18:08: <Arth> I know your overall strategic doctrine
21:18:16: <Arth> Inspired by Unrestricted Warfare
21:18:21: <Arth> But not your naval
21:18:31: <Tits> http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Taijian-Woerjin_Doctrine
21:20:52: <Tits> http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Taijian-Woerjin_Doctrine#General_strategic_and_tactical_principles
21:20:59: <Tits> http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Taijian-Woerjin_Doctrine#Ju.C3.A0ngia.C3.AC_ga_cthh.C3.A0ng.C3.B2ia
21:22:24: <Tits> Those two bits are the most relevant imho Arth
21:24:20: <Arth> Btw, are you competent in the Chinese language?
21:24:33: <Arth> Because I can probably help you out somewhat if necessary.
21:25:03: <Tits> Akai when spoken is different to Mandarin
21:25:17: <Tits> Akai is more of a conlang
21:25:28: <Tits> Based on Mandarin
21:25:37: <Tits> Do you know Mandarin Arth?
21:26:15: <Arth> Rusty
21:26:27: <Arth> I'm a Chinese Brit. Parents from HK.
21:26:34: <Tits> Ah interesting
21:26:56: <Tits> Are you better with Cantonese?
21:27:00: <Arth> Yes
21:27:04: <Arth> but you can write it down
21:27:07: <Arth> can't
21:27:11: <Arth> or it's very difficult
21:27:26: <Arth> Tits, you may want to elaborate on the ideological side of it
21:27:35: <Arth> What is the business with perpetual civilisational warfare, for instance?
21:29:42: <Tits> Essentially Akai regards itself in constant competition with other "barbarian societies" and sees nations as being superorganisms. Thusly they see states as being in constant evolutionary competition with one another for dominance and continued existence.
21:30:19: <Arth> Ah
21:30:22: <Arth> Very Tehraan :P
21:31:12: <Tits> I picked it off Oswald Splenger and his theories from Decline of the West
21:31:23: <Tits> Although admittedly Tehraan was an early influence of Akai
21:33:30: <Tits> http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Entekana#Global_Darwinism
21:33:39: <Tits> Is this what you are referring to Arth?
21:34:01: <Tits> But generally speaking, Akai rarely will engage conventionally unless it has an overwhelming advantage of some kind
21:34:26: <Tits> instead it would rather pick off targets and waste them down asymmetrically
21:36:51: <Tits> btw there does exist a Kuaiyanist (read Jiekeist) faction in Rietumimark
21:37:32: <Arth> And what do they believe in?
21:40:29: <Arth> What's the internal politics like?
21:40:33: <Arth> As in what're the factions etc.?
21:40:42: <Arth> Ideological ones
21:40:47: <Tits> In Rietumimark?
21:40:57: <Arth> And class/group, like aristocrats, gentry, bureaucrats etc
21:40:58: <Arth> In Akai
21:41:36: <Tits> Oh in Akai
21:41:42: <Tits> That is a really expansive topic
21:41:51: <Tits> Hmm
21:42:03: <Tits> Well then I shall start with the main bunch of factions
21:42:56: <Tits> Is there is the Kuaiyan Clique which is essentially the ideological faction of Ditu Jieke
21:44:09: <Tits> Essentially they are a mixture of neolegalist (as in Chinese Legalist), Third Position, Reactionary views which shaped modern Akai
21:44:58: <Tits> They wanted an omnipotent centralised state which its ministers are appointed on merit rather than from birth while also preserving the aesthetic and social structure of the feudal system
21:46:04: <Tits> In terms of foreign policy it advocates neocolonialist hegemony, based around the idea that it is always good to acquire more and more power.
21:46:07: <Arth> Aesthetic structure?
21:46:31: <Tits> Based of the ideas that appear in Taijian-Woerjin doctrine such as civilisational conflict
21:46:39: <Tits> and superorganisms
21:47:46: <Tits> Essentially the arisotcracy are derived of power (the right to have armies, collect taxes, own vast numbers of slaves) under the Kuaiyanists/neolegalists but are still high in society legally the highest, serve as civil magistrates, decide on laws in their own lands
21:50:55: <Tits> Regulated away from being an actual threat to the Dituate
21:51:35: <Tits> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MwDRZybGmISr3sw0YFB4ZVTopsCgRlRVguDgeRh_AMo/edit?usp=sharing
21:51:44: <Tits> Read this Arth for more details on that Arth
21:52:14: <Tits> The Kuaiyanist faction generally speaking in control of Akai's major institutions
21:52:24: <Tits> Such as the Department of State Affairs, the Geluxu, etc
21:54:12: <Tits> Another major faction is the Guomin which are the faction of the more liberal reformers, who are heavily prosecuted in Akai
21:54:28: <Tits> Well liberal is being used by Akai standards here
21:54:54: <Tits> Essentially they partially desire a modernised quasi-constitutional state which is controlled by a tripartite system
21:55:21: <Tits> They are the interllectual heirs to Ditu Sunzhi who wanted such a thing but was de facto blocked by the aristocracy who threatened civil war every time
21:59:06: <Tits> The Grand Conclave (practically a privy council, all appointed by the Ditu) (http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Akai#The_Grand_Conclave), the Conclave of Clans (basically the House of Lords, all members of the aristocracy are there) and the Conclave of Peasants (those with votes are non-nobles who are the top 3% of Imperial examinations)
21:59:37: <Tits> These each would compose legislation and would need two of the other houses to approve it otherwise it does not pass
22:00:30: <Tits> They would also constitutionally bind these houses to certain actions however the Ditu would remain absolute in his own power
22:02:01: <Tits> One of the major Guomin today are amusingly made up of the members of Jieke's own family with Prince-Regent Sanfu Lazin, Celestial Princess Pingan Lazin, and Celestial Prince Zhu-Di all being major conspirators and supporters
22:02:06: <Tits> You still here Arth?
22:05:51: <Tits> There also exists the traditionalist/reactionary faction which would essentially take the position that they want to restore the aristocracy's right, their economic policy resembles classical and Islamic approaches and generally speaking are isolationist foreign policy wise
22:06:06: <Tits> their leader in the court is Prince-Marshal Qiang Lazin
22:06:09: <Arth> Hi
22:06:09: <Arth> yes
22:06:28: <Tits> Who can be seen as a quasi-Franco/Tojo/Pinochet guy
22:06:52: <Tits> Although not in any sort of power beyond sitting on the Grand Conclave
22:08:28: <Tits> The traditionalists are generally speaking rather closely aligned with the Guomin also
22:08:47: <Arth> Why?
22:08:50: <Arth> Alliance of convenience?
22:09:02: <Arth> Also, what about in class terms?
22:09:35: <Tits> Laoling faction = traditionalists from now on
22:09:59: <Tits> Mostly due to familial relations, overlapping ideas, and convenience
22:10:19: <Tits> Currently we are talking about upper bureaucrats, aristocracy and royalty at the moment
22:10:45: <Tits> Power and education tends to limit understanding to peasants generally speaking
22:12:04: <Tits> tbh I might just put Pingan in the Laoling faction
22:15:19: <Tits> In the military there is also the Maritime faction which can be compared to some of the saner Japanese militarists
22:15:58: <Tits> As evidenced in the name they are mostly navy men who advocate for greater expansion of the navy
22:16:10: <Tits> As well as an aggressive very hawkish foreign policy
22:16:44: <Tits> They want to secure resources for Akaiand have it become a proud power in the region
22:17:02: <Tits> They are the descendants of the faction that lead Akai into the Tempesta war.
22:17:14: <Arth> What's the degree of overlap between upper bureaucrats and the aristocracy?
22:17:15: <Tits> Although in response to their failure they emphasise less conventional warfare
22:18:31: <Tits> Generally speaking the aristocracy has a large presence in the bureaucracy due to their superior education but tend to be lesser sons. It is less prestigious than military careers however. You do tend to get lesser aristocracy appearing more and occasionally very talented peasants
22:18:59: <Tits> A good case would be Grand Secretary Heng Ryuunguo, current head of the Department of State Affairs
22:20:37: <Tits> Generally speaking the military is a very meritocratic place which means that it is naturally dominated by sort of Junker/Samurai esque petty aristocracy and a few grand aristocracy as well
22:20:47: <Tits> Society is very very stratified in Akai Arth
22:20:52: <Tits> Very feudal almost
22:21:53: <Tits> although more meritocratic in character than it used to be
22:23:15: <Tits> The Maritime's counterparts are the Territorials who prefer to withdraw Akai's foreign interests and maintain a more diplomatically oriented and covert approach to foreign policy with a smaller but better funded military Arth
22:23:37: <Arth> IS there no army faction?
22:23:58: <Arth> Also
22:24:01: <Arth> Foreign conquest
22:24:14: <Arth> Presumably they'd want to go after the sort of basket case third world countries?
22:25:24: <Tits> The Territorials are the army's faction generally speaking
22:25:31: <Tits> they want the navy to be much smaller
22:26:02: <Tits> Well it is more force unequal territories through shows of force and the like
22:26:19: <Tits> Jieke managed to keep them down by being generally terrifying enough to do so
22:27:36: <Tits> Generally speaking the maritime faction wants to secure resources peacefully when it can but is more than willing to be underhanded
22:27:49: <Tits> Territorial factions tend to be more focused on Akai rather than its ambitions
22:28:03: <Tits> Prince Qiang is also a member of the territorials
22:28:59: <Tits> the Geluxu's faction essentially is closest to Jieke's own foreign policy advocating for a strength in peace large armed forces, strong asymmetric navy and unrestricted warfare like teachings.
22:29:21: <Tits> It's head Censor-Marshal Molxue Woerjin is quickly ascending the ranks and is step-father to the Ditu
22:31:33: <Tits> And is also a candidate to lead the Orders of National Defence as Grandmaster of it
22:32:02: <Tits> As the previous Grandmaster of the orders of national defence and Jieke's old friend Long Zhanshi died in a plane crash
22:32:10: <Tits> So those are the actually relevant factions ARth
22:32:42: <Tits> There also exists a far weakened republican syndicalist faction which was violently suppressed several times in Akai history, being popular among the peasants
22:32:56: <Tits> Essentially advocating for clan control of society
22:33:27: <Tits> They attempted a revolt in the 60s due to a military junta forming under Ditu Long lead by Dibai Youxian
22:34:28: <Tits> There also exists the GUIZI who are radical strasserist militarists who wanted a stratocracy
22:34:35: <Tits> And were lead by Tian Taijian
22:34:45: <Tits> And are responsible for the first nuking of 1984
22:34:50: <Tits> Before getting nuked themselves
22:34:56: <Tits> And that is the summary of them all Arth
22:35:00: <Tits> Of my factions