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  2. STORY UPDATES (77) COMMENTS (1,980) BACKERS (968)
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  4. 500 of 500 POST COMMENT
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  6. S Walk
  7. less than a minute ago
  8. @1sgmgn
  9. Probably never. Wedg Co no longer exists according to the UK Government.
  10.  
  11. Reply
  12.  
  13. S Walk
  14. 1 minute ago
  15. And now, more comments have been removed. When I made my last comment, there was 1979, now there are 1978 comments (before this one.) What’s going on?
  16.  
  17. Reply
  18.  
  19. 1sgmgn
  20. 2 days ago
  21. When do I get what I paid for?
  22.  
  23.  
  24. S Walk
  25. 6 days ago
  26. Interesting how the comment counter said 1981 comments, and now (before this one) says 1979 comments. Almost like Indiegogo has deleted comments!
  27.  
  28. Reply
  29.  
  30. S Walk
  31. 25 days ago
  32. @Lance Spring, you’re very welcome. I just wish this had ended a little better.
  33.  
  34. Reply
  35.  
  36. Lance Spring
  37. 25 days ago
  38. S Walk, Thanks for your effort and information. It’s far more than the backers receive from the unprofessional, thievery corporation known as Indiegogo.
  39.  
  40. That Shebaz turned out to be a real piece of shit, hiding under rocks and refusing to take responsibility….not that it matters. He’s the sort of guy that will ‘explain’ the situation by saying it’s not his fault.
  41.  
  42.  
  43. S Walk
  44. 2 months ago
  45. I’ve posted what probably will be the final tweet at https://twitter.com/wearewedg since there’s nothing left to say. I’ll leave http://wedg.co/ up for probably another year, at least until I get tired of the renewal fee for the domain.
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  47.  
  48. S Walk
  49. 1 month ago
  50. So I lied. Some yahoo named Don McLaren told me my attitude said crowdfunding isn't for me. Well, Don, you're right. It's not. Seeing as how we didn't even get a kiss with this f*ing, why should it be. It's also funny that Shebaz blocked me from following his account, as if I wanted to...
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  52.  
  53. Marc Solondz
  54. 2 months ago
  55. It’s lack of communication and response from Indiegogo and campaigns like this that destroy the abilities of legitimate ideas from getting off the ground. I’m done with Indiegogo and any campaigns through them. They collected their money and could care less about any of us. Screw them.
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  57.  
  58. S Walk
  59. 2 months ago
  60. Companies House has fully published the Final Gazette dissolving Wedg Limited. It’s over…the project is dead.
  61. https://twitter.com/wearewedg/status/965568353128599552
  62.  
  63. Reply
  64.  
  65. S Walk
  66. 2 months ago
  67. I made note to Indiegogo about how Wedg Limited has been dissolved. No reply, as expected. I don’t see anyone getting anything back out of this at this point.
  68.  
  69. Reply
  70.  
  71. S Walk
  72. 2 months ago
  73. I’ve made an updated simple website, which you may view at https://wedg.carrd.co/ or http://wedg.co/
  74.  
  75. It may take a while for DNS to propagate.
  76.  
  77. Reply
  78.  
  79. S Walk
  80. 2 months ago
  81. A list of the links (dead and alive) that I’ve found related to Wedg can be found at the following paste, and as a link on the Wedg twitter account. There isn’t much left other than the promo video, some empty LinkedIn pages, and, of course, this page.
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  83. https://pastebin.com/S7Q3nafa
  84. https://twitter.com/wearewedg
  85.  
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  87.  
  88. S Walk
  89. 2 months ago
  90. Well Ladies and Gentlemen, this is it. Wedg Limited has been dissolved by Companies House and is no longer a valid, going concern.
  91.  
  92. There is no chance of this project ever being completed at this point, AFAIK.
  93.  
  94. Reply
  95.  
  96. S Walk
  97. 2 months ago
  98. I will post the Wedg Limited dissolution documents at https://twitter.com/wearewedg when they are released, or you can find them on the Companies House website.
  99.  
  100. Reply
  101.  
  102. S Walk
  103. 2 months ago
  104. I made a request to Indiegogo to refund my pledge, as the companies involved with this project no longer exist.
  105.  
  106. It was closed without comment.
  107.  
  108. Reply
  109.  
  110. S Walk
  111. 2 months ago
  112. It appears Wedg Limited did not reply to Companies House, and will be dissolved. That pretty much leaves this project with no chance of completing.
  113.  
  114. Reply
  115.  
  116. S Walk
  117. 2 months ago
  118. This is Wedg Limited’s last day to reply to Companies House. After today, they will be in the final phase of strike-off.
  119.  
  120. Reply
  121.  
  122. S Walk
  123. 2 months ago
  124. Wedg Limited has 4 days left to reply to Companies House. Based on how Montrose Innovations Limited was handled, Companies House will fully dissolve Wedg Ltd within 15 days following the deadline.
  125.  
  126. If all things follow expectations, Wedg Limited will not exist come March.
  127.  
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  129.  
  130. S Walk
  131. 2 months ago
  132. Companies House doesn’t have any kind of legal oversight beyond declaring a company ongoing or dissolved, based on registration documents filed (or lack thereof) with them.
  133.  
  134. Indiegogo doesn’t care. I did try contacting various organizations within the UK, but most were unable to help me because I wasn’t a UK resident.
  135.  
  136. Reply
  137.  
  138. Ian Cockburn
  139. 2 months ago
  140. So did anyone get any response from Indiegogo, the Police or Companies House etc?
  141.  
  142.  
  143. S Walk
  144. 2 months ago
  145. Once Wedg Limited is struck off, I will probably change the wedg.co site to a static page with links to here, the twitter page, and anything else that may be of interest. It will probably be up for at least another year, maybe two, depending on how much I feel like paying for it.
  146.  
  147. Reply
  148.  
  149. S Walk
  150. 2 months ago
  151. Indiegogo (as expected) closed my latest request with “solved” – I’ve given up on actually trying to get information from them, instead just creating a paper trail for whatever purpose that shows I’ve pointed them to the documents stating this project has failed.
  152.  
  153. Also as expected, they don’t seem to care.
  154.  
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  156.  
  157. S Walk
  158. 2 months ago
  159. Wedg Limited has 7 days left to reply to the strike-off notice issued against them.
  160.  
  161. Reply
  162.  
  163. S Walk
  164. 2 months ago
  165. Companies House formally published the dissolution notice for Montrose Innovations Limited today.
  166.  
  167. Reply
  168.  
  169. S Walk
  170. 3 months ago
  171. @Ian Cockburn They actually did answer one of my recent inquiries, stating that it was being elevated to their “Trust and Safety” team. Nothing ever came of it, so I assume that’s code for “Go away kid, ya bother me.”
  172.  
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  174.  
  175. Ian Cockburn
  176. 3 months ago
  177. Shocking behaviour from Indiegogo. Stop answering any questions, closing queries.
  178.  
  179.  
  180. S Walk
  181. 3 months ago
  182. Companies House published notice that Montrose Innovations Limited is formally dissolved as of January 30th, 2017. Documentation to be available in 5 days,
  183.  
  184. This leaves Wedg Limited, if such a company still exists, without a directorship. As no company answers to this name at the published address, I feel that both will eventually be dissolved.
  185.  
  186. This pretty much means there is no chance of this project completing. Indiegogo doesn’t care, and we’re left holding the bag.
  187.  
  188.  
  189. S Walk
  190. 3 months ago
  191. Make that 2018. I haven't had my coffee yet...
  192. Reply
  193.  
  194. S Walk
  195. 3 months ago
  196. This is the last day that Montrose Innovations Ltd has to reply to the Companies House strike-off notice. Wedg Ltd has less than a month to reply to the same.
  197.  
  198. Reply
  199.  
  200. S Walk
  201. 3 months ago
  202. All: As some of you know, I have the wedg.co domain under my control. I will probably renew it for one more year, and then let it drop because I don’t need to be spending more money on this turkey. Is there any interest in continuing it after May 2019?
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  205.  
  206. S Walk
  207. 3 months ago
  208. Post your rant on the (formerly) Wedg twitter page: https://twitter.com/wearewedg
  209.  
  210. Reply
  211.  
  212. S Walk
  213. 3 months ago
  214. Wedg Ltd. has reached the 1-month mark, and they now have 1 month left to reply to the strike-off notice from Companies House. Montrose Innovations Ltd has 9 days left to reply to their strike-off notice.
  215.  
  216. Reply
  217.  
  218. S Walk
  219. 3 months ago
  220. There are only three companies currently registered at 17 Grosvenor Gardens, London SW1. Would you like to guess who is not among them? You only get one guess! https://twitter.com/wearewedg/status/947972959792259077
  221.  
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  223.  
  224. S Walk
  225. 3 months ago
  226. @1sgmgn I doubt there is anyone left to make an update.
  227.  
  228. Montrose Innovations Ltd has 16 days to reply to Companies House or be struck from the active company rolls.
  229.  
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  231.  
  232. 1sgmgn
  233. 3 months ago
  234. Time for the yearly update that they are still there thinking about it!
  235.  
  236.  
  237. S Walk
  238. 3 months ago
  239. We rapidly approach the two-month mark that Montrose Innovations Ltd has been given to reply to the Companies House strike-off notice, We’re in the final stretch folks, if the company loses it’s directorship, we can begin to close the book on this turd.
  240.  
  241. Reply
  242.  
  243. S Walk
  244. 4 months ago
  245. We approach the one-month mark for Montrose Innovations Ltd to reply to the Companies House strike off notice. Are we taking bets?
  246.  
  247. Reply
  248.  
  249. S Walk
  250. 4 months ago
  251. I’m guessing Indiegogo elevating my last request to their “Trust & Safety” team was just a ruse to shut me up. Nothing has been received since.
  252.  
  253. Reply
  254.  
  255. S Walk
  256. 4 months ago
  257. Apparently, anyone can object to the strike-off notice, assuming they have some interest in the company. Are we technically creditors? Or does the crowdfund thing negate that?
  258.  
  259. Reply
  260.  
  261. S Walk
  262. 4 months ago
  263. @Alexander, ‘ol Shebby has his hands in a lot of pots if his LinkedIn is to be believed – everything from an IT consultancy to a Valet service. I guess that didn’t leave any time for Wedg.
  264.  
  265. Reply
  266.  
  267. Alexander Blaauwgeers
  268. 4 months ago
  269. WTF…… Just watched his Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shehbazafzal/
  270. He is still going on with the same strategy creating http://indiefalcon.com
  271. registered as https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10296824 …
  272.  
  273. @wearewedg creating http://indiefalcon.com registered as https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10296824 …
  274.  
  275.  
  276. S Walk
  277. 4 months ago
  278. Companies House has formally issued the “First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off” to Wedg Ltd on December 5 2017. They have two months to make good, or formal dissolution will be started.
  279.  
  280. https://twitter.com/wearewedg/status/937701057941180416
  281. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08824160/filing-history
  282.  
  283. Reply
  284.  
  285. S Walk
  286. 4 months ago
  287. What’s left of the original Wedg Ltd has been placed on probation and (unless otherwise indicated) will most likely be struck from the rolls as well. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08824160 https://twitter.com/wearewedg/status/935961169164210176
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  289. Reply
  290.  
  291. S Walk
  292. 5 months ago
  293. The strike-off notice can be viewed at Companies House, if you’re so inclined. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10344848/filing-history
  294.  
  295. Reply
  296.  
  297. S Walk
  298. 5 months ago
  299. Companies House has issued the “First Gazette notice for compulsory strike-off” to Montrose Innovations Ltd on November 14 2017. They have two months to make good, or formal dissolution will be started.
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  302.  
  303. Mark Brown
  304. 5 months ago
  305. Lesson learned, don’t pay with Debit Card. Makes it easy for scammers to steal your money :(
  306.  
  307.  
  308. S Walk
  309. 5 months ago
  310. @Mario Bermúdez Castro
  311.  
  312. ¡muerto!
  313.  
  314. Reply
  315.  
  316. Mario Bermúdez Castro
  317. 5 months ago
  318. ¿Estado del proyecto? ¿estado del producto? ¿estado de mi dinero?
  319.  
  320.  
  321. S Walk
  322. 5 months ago
  323. I have to admit, I’m kind of surprised. I received a reply from Indiegogo indicating that my request has been elevated to the “Trust and Safety team” – we’ll see what happens.
  324.  
  325. Reply
  326.  
  327. S Walk
  328. 5 months ago
  329. I made yet-another-help-request to Indiegogo. I expect it to be closed before the end of business Monday.
  330.  
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  333. S Walk
  334. 5 months ago
  335. Don’t forget to stop by https://twitter.com/wearewedg and post your frustrations. The more the merrier, yeah?
  336.  
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  338.  
  339. S Walk
  340. 5 months ago
  341. Montrose Innovations Ltd is now almost 2 months overdue with their first confirmation statement.
  342.  
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  344.  
  345. S Walk
  346. 5 months ago
  347. I should have backed this: https://www.eggcyte.com/shop – it does what wedg promised, AND IT SHIPPED!
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  351. Nikolai Tesla
  352. 5 months ago
  353. Thank you gentlemen for continuing to pursue this charlatan. We and a few more still remember this scam supported and practically encouraged by Indiegogo.
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  355.  
  356. Ian Cockburn
  357. 6 months ago
  358. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10296824/officers Why doesn’t Mr. Afzal’s previous companies show up? He is not trying to hide something surely? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Q5QrQVLjgChTpnFvdFZ4PAmDKH0/appointments https://www.linkedin.com/in/shehbazafzal/
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  361. S Walk
  362. 6 months ago
  363. Again, if you are a UK resident, please check to see if you can claim a refund under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act of 1974. If you paid for any part of this product with a credit (not debit) card, you may be eligible.
  364.  
  365. Reply
  366.  
  367. S Walk
  368. 6 months ago
  369. At this point, a letter of intent to strike will be published. 2 months later, the company, at the pleasure of the solicitor handling the proceedings, will be struck from the rolls and formally dissolved upon publication of a notice in the relevant document.
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  371. Montrose has a few months to get their act together. However, since they have gone silent, have not confirmed accounts, and even their office has vanished from the web, I have doubts that this will happen.
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  375. S Walk
  376. 6 months ago
  377. I spoke with a representative from Companies House regarding Wedg-Montrose Innovations failure to file their very first confirmation statement. The representative stated that “Companies House are currently chasing the company for the overdue Confirmation statement. The form should have been filed no later than 06/09/2017.” I was also told that Montrose will get a few chances to correct the error. If they do not, Companies House will begin formal dissolution procedures.
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  379. Reply
  380.  
  381. S Walk
  382. 7 months ago
  383. I did notice that Montrose Innovations LTD was supposed to file a statement with Companies House on September 6 2017, but that is reported as “Overdue” I know that comes as a shock to all of you, so please try to maintain a sense of decorum. https://twitter.com/wearewedg/status/912103291668062208
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  386.  
  387. S Walk
  388. 7 months ago
  389. @Alexander, I can answer those for you.
  390.  
  391. 1: Dead.
  392. 2: No.
  393. 3: Active, but controlled by “Montrose Innovations LTD”
  394. 4: Someone that was made up to get people off Kebab’s back
  395. 5: Money? LOL
  396.  
  397. Reply
  398.  
  399. Alexander Blaauwgeers
  400. 7 months ago
  401. Dear Everyone,
  402.  
  403. The last I expect is a reasonable explanation.
  404. 1) What is the current status of the Project?
  405. 2) Is there anything which can be shared public? Like source code?
  406. 3) What is the actual status of the WEDG ltd?
  407. 4) Who is ‘Carol Bohm-Scott’? What is his role?
  408. 5) Are there posibilities to divide the unused money? If there is any?
  409.  
  410. I understand that investing is taking risk, but this is something else.
  411. If you invest you have the right to information.
  412.  
  413. Regards,
  414. Alexander
  415.  
  416.  
  417. Marc Solondz
  418. 7 months ago
  419. What Indiegogo should do is refund us their share of the money collected as an act of good faith. I know it’s only small portion of what we all paid but it’s the gesture that would have value.
  420. Of course we all know that won’t happen because they could care less about any of us.
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  422.  
  423. S Walk
  424. 7 months ago
  425. @1sgmgn, we’re all going to be waiting a very long time.
  426.  
  427. Reply
  428.  
  429. 1sgmgn
  430. 7 months ago
  431. Still here, still waiting!
  432.  
  433.  
  434. Ian Cockburn
  435. 8 months ago
  436. I have tweeted to a few publications that initially published stories – no one is interested.
  437.  
  438.  
  439. Ian Cockburn
  440. 6 months ago
  441. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10296824/officers Why doesn't Mr. Afzal's previous companies show up? He is not trying to hide something surely? https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/Q5QrQVLjgChTpnFvdFZ4PAmDKH0/appointments https://www.linkedin.com/in/shehbazafzal/
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  443. S Walk
  444. 8 months ago
  445. Updates: The Manchester Evening News never replied to my email. Not that I expected them to reply, there’s no news in some three year-old crowdfunding thing that failed.
  446.  
  447. I sent another request to Indiegogo, a little more polite this time, asking if they had any other contact avenue for Wedg. It again was closed immediately as “Solved” – no reply, just closed.
  448.  
  449. I don’t know about you, but I learned my lesson. Don’t crowdfund tech, you’ll get burnt.
  450.  
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  452.  
  453. S Walk
  454. 8 months ago
  455. Remember when we were getting ducking updates? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDgzlLnVwAAWfiM.jpg:large
  456.  
  457. Reply
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  459. S Walk
  460. 8 months ago
  461. It would be nice if WEDG actually released whatever code they had (assuming there was any to start with!)
  462.  
  463. Reply
  464.  
  465. S Walk
  466. 8 months ago
  467. @Robert Loewe
  468.  
  469. Nothing was stolen from Indiegogo, they got their money!
  470.  
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  473. Robert Loewe
  474. 8 months ago
  475. I think things like WEDG make it really difficult to trust in Indiegogo. This is the second time I have been subject to a con. Indiegogo doesn’t take fraud seriously. Indiegogo should provide assistance to reclaim what was stolen!
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  477.  
  478. S Walk
  479. 8 months ago
  480. I sent an email to the Manchester Evening News. I’ll let you know what happens (if anything.)
  481.  
  482. Reply
  483.  
  484. S Walk
  485. 8 months ago
  486. If you have information about, or just wish to rant, remember that https://twitter.com/wearewedg was abandoned by and is no longer is under the control of Wedg Co. Feel free to post your pain there, as I do not plan on closing the account, and all of the articles ever published online now show the rant page instead of anything dealing with Wedg. (Same goes for the website, it simply re-directs to the twitter account.)
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  489.  
  490. S Walk
  491. 8 months ago
  492. @Nikolai Tesla
  493.  
  494. Another address for your files:
  495.  
  496. Montrose Innovations
  497. c/o Carol Bohm-Scott
  498. 17 Grosvenor Gardens
  499. LONDON
  500. SW1W 0BD
  501.  
  502. This address is nothing more than a hotdesk at Uber Office. I doubt this even exists at this point, as Uber Office’s website has nothing more than a “suspended account” notice as provided by their webhost, and the last activity on their twitter account is May 9.
  503.  
  504. Reply
  505.  
  506. Nikolai Tesla
  507. 8 months ago
  508. Additionally you can write to the Manchester Evening News (newsdesk@men-news.co.uk), who did an article about WEDG on 9 Oct 2014 (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/cloud-firm-wedg-smashes-crowdfunding-7898382), and express your concerns about WEDG and MR. AFZAL.
  509.  
  510.  
  511. Nikolai Tesla
  512. 8 months ago
  513. The more complaints submitted the more pressure will be introduced to resolve this issue.
  514.  
  515. Here is the required WEDG company information:
  516.  
  517. WEDG LTD (OLD)
  518. 47 Chorlton Street
  519. Manchester
  520. Greater Manchester
  521. M1 3FY
  522.  
  523. WEDG LTD (NEW)
  524. C/O Taxassist Accountants
  525. 23 Flixton Road
  526. Urmston
  527. Manchester
  528. M41 5AW
  529.  
  530. Company#08824160
  531. Director ID: 917334076
  532. Director: MR SHEHBAZ AFZAL
  533.  
  534.  
  535. Nikolai Tesla
  536. 8 months ago
  537. @WEDG FUNDERS: You have the right to report this situation to the corresponding authorities in the UK so they can investigate:
  538.  
  539. The Insolvency Service, Companies House or the Serious Fraud Office. More information at:
  540.  
  541. https://www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company
  542.  
  543. You can also submit a complaint to the Manchester Trading Standards at:
  544.  
  545. https://ssl.datamotion.com/form.aspx?co=3438&frm=citacomplainform&to=flare.fromforms
  546.  
  547.  
  548. Nikolai Tesla
  549. 8 months ago
  550. Sadly Wedg Ltd. was a con job since day 1. SHEHBAZ AFZAL is the responsible party along with Indigogo for being complacent with the con job scheme.
  551.  
  552.  
  553. Scott McQueen
  554. 8 months ago
  555. I wonder if I can run the app on my Wedg… oh wait, what Wedg :)
  556.  
  557.  
  558. Scott McQueen
  559. 8 months ago
  560. Oh the irony… A religious app by the Man who fleeced so many on Indigogo / Then changed the Wedg project owner to a false name so he could carry on elsewhere.
  561.  
  562.  
  563. jf3575
  564. 8 months ago
  565. Look like this is his current project:
  566. http://www.indiefalcon.com
  567. https://www.imaanplus.com
  568.  
  569. If you are still angry, you can spam their Twitter.
  570.  
  571.  
  572. John Raffin
  573. 9 months ago
  574. Thanks Gaston – brought a smile.
  575.  
  576. Some more:
  577. Computer beats human masters at GO
  578. Brexit
  579. Tesla Gigafactory
  580.  
  581.  
  582. Gaston Cardey
  583. 9 months ago
  584. Hey, guys,
  585. Many things has changed since the “march 2015” estimated delivery date (that much time?).
  586. Donald became president, Bitcoin went to the Moon, Microsoft fail with their Windows phone, Colombia signs the peace, Avatar came with an extended version, Ransomware hits everywhere, my girldfriend finally came to live in my home…
  587. What else? Come on, share!
  588.  
  589.  
  590. S Walk
  591. 9 months ago
  592. @dbrissenden Got it, thanks!
  593.  
  594. Reply
  595.  
  596. dbrissenden
  597. 9 months ago
  598. @BryanWalker
  599. File copied to https://ufile.io/yo1j8 and will automatically delete after 30 days.
  600. Please let me know if you have any problems with this.
  601.  
  602.  
  603. S Walk
  604. 9 months ago
  605. @dbrissenden Awesome, can you use a service that wedg was going to replace (but didn’t) and link it here?
  606.  
  607. Reply
  608.  
  609. dbrissenden
  610. 9 months ago
  611. @Bryan Walker – I have a copy of this if you require it.
  612.  
  613.  
  614. S Walk
  615. 9 months ago
  616. Anyone still have a copy of the 12-04-15.pdf statement detailing the original legal problems handy? I know I have a copy somewhere, but if it’s handy…
  617.  
  618. Reply
  619.  
  620. Marc Solondz
  621. 10 months ago
  622. IGG doesn’t care about this. They received their cut of the money. If they had any integrity they would at least refund us their share of the profit. It’s only a small percentage for each of us but it would go a long way as a gesture of good faith.
  623.  
  624.  
  625. Marc Solondz
  626. 10 months ago
  627. 5 months since the last bogus update. No news is not good news.
  628.  
  629.  
  630. S Walk
  631. 10 months ago
  632. @Scott McQueen – nothing new except the domain wedg.co and twitter account wearewedg were dropped. I have both now. This project is dead, dead, dead.
  633.  
  634. Reply
  635.  
  636. Scott McQueen
  637. 10 months ago
  638. Still here… I pop by now and again to see how the project is getting along LOL
  639.  
  640. What a total joke!
  641.  
  642.  
  643. S Walk
  644. 10 months ago
  645. @Ian Cockburn, I received the same canned response about a year ago. Indienono is totally useless when it comes to making the campaign creator talk – it would surprise me if they had a valid email address at this point.
  646.  
  647. Reply
  648.  
  649. Gaston Cardey
  650. 11 months ago
  651. Obviously, they wash theirs hands. “Start a campaign and get away with the money!”
  652. IGG: YOU HAVE RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS.
  653.  
  654.  
  655. Ian Cockburn
  656. 11 months ago
  657. @Bryan Walker
  658.  
  659. "
  660. However, our minimum expectation is that a campaign owner is transparent to contributors about the status of their project by posting updates to their campaign. We will be reaching out to them directly to urge them to post an update. While we can’t force them to post an update, if they continue to remain unresponsive, you can use our Terms of Use to take legal action against the campaigner. "
  661.  
  662.  
  663. Ian Cockburn
  664. 11 months ago
  665. @Bryan Walker they did the same with mine. I have reopened it and it was escalated to Trust and Safety.
  666.  
  667. “As with any early-stage project, crowdfunding campaigns may take unexpected turns, which can include changes, delays or unforeseen challenges. While your contribution helps to bring something new closer to reality, there is always the risk that a project may end up falling through, and that the campaign owner may not be able to deliver the perks they’d originally offered.”
  668.  
  669.  
  670. S Walk
  671. 11 months ago
  672. I see Indiegogo has marked my message detailing Wedg’s lack of web presence as “solved” without even a reply. I guess this scam project truly is dead.
  673.  
  674. Reply
  675.  
  676. S Walk
  677. 11 months ago
  678. @Gaston Cardey, I don’t know of anyone close to that area. From what I could tell, there are some UK backers here, but I don’t know anyone specifically.
  679.  
  680. Reply
  681.  
  682. Gaston Cardey
  683. 11 months ago
  684. @Bryan Walker, I was about to build a page plenty of “scam” in the background and was to tell the history of this notorious scam.
  685. I’m sure that there are some really good and respectful entrepreneurs in IGG, but how can we trust?
  686. I’d like to go to UK to confront this guys (like I have a chance to do that). Do you know if there are some backers living in UK or near Manchester?
  687.  
  688.  
  689. S Walk
  690. 11 months ago
  691. @Gaston Cardey But, having said that, if you have a better use for the website please let me know – I’m more than happy to point it towards a new page.
  692.  
  693. Reply
  694.  
  695. S Walk
  696. 11 months ago
  697. @Gaston Cardey, It became painfully apparent to me some time ago that Indiegogo has no (by their own rules) desire to do anything more than provide a platform to collect money. They don’t have to care because there is no accountability. They have their money. The fact that the campaign fleeced us of funds – by bad intentions or bad luck, we’ll never truly know – is nothing that they are ever going to care about. At least, not until the money stops because of said bad press!
  698.  
  699. Reply
  700.  
  701. S Walk
  702. 11 months ago
  703. @Gaston Cardey, It is kind of disturbing to see both the domain and twitter cancelled, that seems to indicate that Wedg considers itself to be a dead project. The domain, maybe – that costs money, but the twitter account is free. I guess they don’t want any evidence laying around?
  704.  
  705. It is amusing to see all of the links and whatnot now pointing to the twitter rant.
  706.  
  707. Reply
  708.  
  709. Gaston Cardey
  710. 11 months ago
  711. @bryan walker, You’re my hero! I was about to buy that domain, but you won the race!
  712. These guys really are amazing. And IGG can’t support this kind of theft in their platform. But they do.
  713.  
  714.  
  715. S Walk
  716. 11 months ago
  717. 3 of the 4 projects that Blazon PR helped on kickstarter didn’t deliver – the fourth seems to have delivered for the most part, but still has a lot of no-shows and complaints about short product life.
  718.  
  719. https://www.indiegogo.com/partners/BlazonPR
  720.  
  721. Reply
  722.  
  723. S Walk
  724. 11 months ago
  725. I love how all wedg.co and @wearewedg now direct to the rant page.
  726.  
  727. Reply
  728.  
  729. S Walk
  730. 11 months ago
  731. Actually, I sent it to the twitter page. Better for today’s audience.
  732.  
  733. Reply
  734.  
  735. S Walk
  736. 11 months ago
  737. wedg.co is registered and now points here.
  738.  
  739. Reply
  740.  
  741. S Walk
  742. 11 months ago
  743. Check out our new twitter page! https://twitter.com/wearewedg
  744.  
  745. Reply
  746.  
  747. S Walk
  748. 11 months ago
  749. The twitter account, @wearewedg, appears to be dead too. That’s now mine as well.
  750.  
  751. Reply
  752.  
  753. S Walk
  754. 11 months ago
  755. All,
  756.  
  757. I now own WEDG.CO – which tells me this project has no intention of completing.
  758.  
  759. I believe I can force a simple redirect on the name through the host, so if someone wanted to create a webpage that I could point it to – let’s talk.
  760.  
  761. Reply
  762.  
  763. S Walk
  764. 11 months ago
  765. @Rémi
  766.  
  767. It does now. I just bought it.
  768.  
  769. Reply
  770.  
  771. Rémi
  772. 11 months ago
  773. The domain name wedge.co does not exists anymore.
  774.  
  775.  
  776. moelliott
  777. 11 months ago
  778. I do, however, see that I can create a fictional product, and skip away with £100,000 of cash fleeced from trusting backers. I’ll remember that if I’m ever in dire need of a cash injection, knowing full well that any fraud perpetuated won’t be acted upon. (6)
  779.  
  780.  
  781. moelliott
  782. 11 months ago
  783. The fact that Indiegogo has shrugged off legitimate complaints, pacified by clear subterfuge on behalf of Wedg and it’s vague, anonymous, and ghostly staff via empty and infrequent updates. From what I gather from the rest of my fellow disappointed backers, you have been pathetic.
  784.  
  785. So guess what? There’s no reason for me to visit Indiegogo, as there is no protection, support, or accountability enforced in your platform. (5)
  786.  
  787.  
  788. moelliott
  789. 11 months ago
  790. I backed the WEDG (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/wedg-the-personal-cloud-you-ve-been-waiting-for/x/8707340#/) project along with many other people. Like many other people we have been ripped off. Now, I understand that this is part and parcel of the platform, and that backing projects is not risk free.
  791.  
  792. However, read through the comments section of that project, I implore you. The fact that we’ve all been ripped off is annoying, yes, and those feelings are made clear. (4)
  793.  
  794.  
  795. moelliott
  796. 11 months ago
  797. real use, warning anyone that stumbles upon this page as a ‘Here be dragons’ missive, but to add my tuppence to the mix, here’s my message to IG in full:
  798.  
  799. Hi,
  800.  
  801. I received an email from you this morning, cheerfully informing me that “It’s been a while since you’ve visited Indiegogo” and asking the – “Would You Like to Start Raising Money?” The inference of course, that Indiegogo is a wonderful platform for doing so. (3)
  802.  
  803.  
  804. moelliott
  805. 11 months ago
  806. Must admit though, it did push my buttons somewhat. So I fired back a missive through their customer support service – as pointless a task as I can imagine – and vented my frustrations over this project. It made me feel better at least; I’ve long since been resigned to having lost £250 on this piece of vapourware, but that casual email enquiring as to why I’ve not a happy regular user of IG’s platform caused me the need to have my say. As a cautionary tale, it’s way too late to be of any (2)
  807.  
  808.  
  809. moelliott
  810. 11 months ago
  811. Hello all, long term backer (all the way back to the failed Kickstarter) and long term lurker here, and I’ve stayed quiet, knowing that I might as well be screaming into a cave to register my dissatisfaction. However, I received an email from Indiegogo this morning, entitled ‘Start raising money with Indiegogo’ Some of you may have received the same. The email itself was a cheerful reminder that I hadn’t visited in a while, the usual vacuous platitudes served up in any advertising copy. (1)
  812.  
  813.  
  814. S Walk
  815. 11 months ago
  816. Indiegogo and Wedg Suck.
  817.  
  818. Reply
  819.  
  820. S Walk
  821. 11 months ago
  822. Yep. Marked “Solved” with no input at all, about 2 hours ago (about 2100UTC).
  823.  
  824. Indiegogo simply doesn’t care once the money changes hands, and it’s pretty obvious that they’re not going to do anything to help.
  825.  
  826. So, Ladies and Gentlemen, I consider my money to be stolen. Unfortunately, authorities aren’t going to open an international case for US$300. Guess it sucks to be me (and you.)
  827.  
  828. Reply
  829.  
  830. S Walk
  831. 11 months ago
  832. Dropped another note to Indiegogo about Wedg. Got this in my email:
  833.  
  834. “Please note, we’ve recently received an increased number of requests, and as a result, it may take us a little longer than normal to respond. We apologize in advance for the inconvenience.”
  835.  
  836. Really. People getting pissed at not even getting so much as a “Fuck You” from campaigns, perhaps?
  837.  
  838. Reply
  839.  
  840. S Walk
  841. 11 months ago
  842. Over 3 months since the last update. Indiegogo has written this project off, as they close tickets without even replying. Where should we hold the funeral for this project?
  843.  
  844. Reply
  845.  
  846. S Walk
  847. 12 months ago
  848. @dbrissenden, I reached out to a number of UK entities some time ago. The only thing they could tell me is that since I wasn’t a UK resident, all they could do was note my query.
  849.  
  850. Reply
  851.  
  852. dbrissenden
  853. 12 months ago
  854. I’ve had enough of this deceit so I have reported to ActionFraud for them to decide whether there is a case to answer to.
  855. I would urge anyone who believes this is a fraud to do the same at http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report-a-fraud-including-online-crime
  856. I provided them with as much information as I was able to regarding when the money was taken, lack of communication, refusal to engage with backers along with the new companies which have cropped up, mysterious name changing etc….
  857.  
  858.  
  859. jrogers31
  860. 1 year ago
  861. @Ian Cockburn -as mentioned 4 months ago -Carol Bohm-Scott is a ghost/fictional character (allegedly) in a game being played to obfuscate matters relating to WEDG and the whereabouts of OUR MONEY. A company has been created with an address at a hot desk office – I bet if you turned up at the address you would not find any evidence of the company ever having been there other than having paid one months rent. Unfortunately, we need a backer with friends in low places to sort this out. (allegedly)
  862.  
  863.  
  864. Ian Cockburn
  865. 1 year ago
  866. And looking up the details of his new company, it seems to be in exactly the same place as Wedg was.. at the Innospace MMU Business Incubator. Has anyone managed to find out anything about Montrose Innovations and Carol Bohm-Scott ?
  867.  
  868.  
  869. Ian Cockburn
  870. 1 year ago
  871. Based on this, I do wonder how much work/legal meetings were actually carried out on Wedg, or were we just fed lies and have been scammed? Given that it’s been now 2 months since the last communication…
  872.  
  873.  
  874. Ian Cockburn
  875. 1 year ago
  876. It seems that Mr. Afzal is not longer with Wedg (having left Nov 2016). Currently running Indiefalcon Limited a mobile app developer (since July 2016). This is according to his https://www.linkedin.com/in/shehbazafzal/. On further searching, it seems that Indiefalcon was something that he has had on the backburner for a while – marketing reported posted Feb 4, 2016 – https://www.slideshare.net/JakeStainton/indiefalcon-project-report.
  877.  
  878.  
  879. Mark Brown
  880. 1 year ago
  881. :(
  882.  
  883.  
  884. S Walk
  885. 1 year ago
  886. Well, since the goons@gogo have abandoned us, and Wedg has fed us nothing but fluff for four months – is this project dead? Can we call it a scam for reals now?
  887.  
  888. Reply
  889.  
  890. S Walk
  891. 1 year ago
  892. My request is marked “solved” as well. No explanation or reply.
  893.  
  894. Seems that our friends and Indienono have washed their hands of us and this bad project. I guess this means that everyone who backed the project lost their hard-earned cash.
  895.  
  896.  
  897. S Walk
  898. 1 year ago
  899. *at Indienono, that is. It's quite late and words aren't working at the moment.
  900. Reply
  901.  
  902. Nikolai Tesla
  903. 1 year ago
  904. Interesting enough. I opened up my request four days ago and recently Indiegogo decided to set it to a “SOLVED” status without any explanation. I have opened a new request for them to explain this “new” way of handling requests from backers. My suggestion to others whom have submitted recent requests to Indiegogo is to check the status.
  905.  
  906.  
  907. Nikolai Tesla
  908. 1 year ago
  909. Interesting article from BBC but Bryan is right on his conclusion. The best bet is to continue to pressure them as we are doing. I have submitted my complaint Email to the ignorant Indie-no-no staff.
  910.  
  911.  
  912. S Walk
  913. 1 year ago
  914. @rickyfew The spectrum campaign was still being funded, which is why IGG could shut it down.
  915.  
  916. Our money has floated away into the void of bad venture capital.
  917.  
  918. It sounds like its time for everyone to write another complaint email to the goons at gogo. If we do this every month, maybe they will get the hint…
  919.  
  920. Reply
  921.  
  922. rickyfews
  923. 1 year ago
  924. Could there be hope?
  925. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39191064
  926.  
  927.  
  928. S Walk
  929. 1 year ago
  930. @Nikolai, I know my wallet certainly came out of the wash clean. What’s really sad is I’m already considering what to purchase to replace the device that took the place of Wedg…
  931.  
  932. Reply
  933.  
  934. Nikolai Tesla
  935. 1 year ago
  936. The same wash cycle. Cleanse, fold and manipulate Indiegogo to shut us up! This needs to stop.
  937.  
  938.  
  939. S Walk
  940. 1 year ago
  941. As we come upon another month, one wonders if Wedg will supply us with another basket of dryer fluff…
  942.  
  943. Reply
  944.  
  945. S Walk
  946. 1 year ago
  947. @Philipp Stäheli, whatever they had at the start of the campaign has already reached that point. I do feel really bad for the one backer that dropped £3000 on this dead turkey.
  948.  
  949. Reply
  950.  
  951. Philipp Stäheli
  952. 1 year ago
  953. By the time they pull through with the project the hardware will be so outdated it can go right in a museeum. (also filed under scam / bullshit / please fuck me over)
  954.  
  955.  
  956. jrogers31
  957. 1 year ago
  958. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE a possible Wedg sing along video just change the p to c in the word spam. Funny how the shape of the Wedg unit resembles the Viking helmet without the horns. Any backers with video skills who can create a parody video to the sound track using multiple images of the Wedg unit with horns attached and upload it to Youtube? It may get some much needed publicity to highlight the disgrace that is Team Wedg.
  959.  
  960.  
  961. Scott McQueen
  962. 1 year ago
  963. Seriously, could these updates be any more vague?
  964.  
  965.  
  966. S Walk
  967. 1 year ago
  968. @rickyfews, your best bet would be contact paypal directly. Point them towards the comments, explain the mess that’s happened here. If you go back far enough someone (sorry forget the name) posted a PDF copy of their “We’re in legal trouble letter.”
  969.  
  970. Reply
  971.  
  972. jrogers31
  973. 1 year ago
  974. Latest update – more unverifiable tripe. “While many of you feel the project is a scam…” nothing can be closer to the truth would be more apt. If this is not a scam the writer of the update should properly Identify themselves and provide verifiable evidence to support what is being said. If the writer, aka Team Wedg does not then logic would dictate that it is a scam.
  975.  
  976.  
  977. guillaume
  978. 1 year ago
  979. I’ve joined the troops to find out the truth about all this. I’ve just sent an email to IGG. I think if more and more backers do the same we might be able to speed things up.
  980.  
  981. Next step for me will probably be reporting the fraud to UK gov (suggested by @Nikolai Tesla https://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/reporting-serious-fraud-bribery-corruption/ and @Cosmarchy in his open email to WEDG http://pastebin.com/JQR0FD1N)
  982.  
  983. Keep you posted about any IGG answer…
  984.  
  985.  
  986. guillaume
  987. 1 year ago
  988. Here is the IGG (automated) answer: “Thanks for reaching out. While perk offers are made and managed by campaign owners, we at Indiegogo expect campaign owners to communicate regularly with their contributors. I am sorry to see that this has not been the case with this campaign. We will send a message to the campaign owner to remind them of their responsibilities to keep you and backers updated on the status of their project. In addition, I encourage you to get in touch with them directly. …”
  989.  
  990. sattler
  991. 1 year ago
  992. Although I don’t really believe this is a scam, I do think someone screwed up big time. Really frustrating to bury that much money. Actually I really needed such a device two years ago. Now I don’t anymore as I had to find other solutions. Most expesive paperweight of my life.
  993.  
  994.  
  995. Gordon Keys
  996. 1 year ago
  997. Another update that tells us nothing!
  998.  
  999.  
  1000. rickyfews
  1001. 1 year ago
  1002. Hi, does anyone know what the chances are of getting a refund if the payment was made through PayPal?
  1003.  
  1004. Thanks,
  1005.  
  1006.  
  1007. Nikolai Tesla
  1008. 1 year ago
  1009. I added my drop into the bucket against this scam. I have also found this valuable option to report this scam to the UK Serious Fraud Office:
  1010.  
  1011. https://www.sfo.gov.uk/contact-us/reporting-serious-fraud-bribery-corruption/
  1012.  
  1013.  
  1014. S Walk
  1015. 1 year ago
  1016. Yet another email to Indiegogo went a few minutes ago. I suggest everyone do the same.
  1017.  
  1018. If you’re in the UK, you may be eligible for a refund under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act, if you paid for any portion of the funding with a credit (not debit) card.
  1019.  
  1020. Reply
  1021.  
  1022. S Walk
  1023. 1 year ago
  1024. @dbrissenden The biggest problem with this whole mess is: no accountability once the money has been paid.
  1025.  
  1026. Indiegogo just says “LOL” and Wedg doesn’t exist…
  1027.  
  1028. Reply
  1029.  
  1030. dbrissenden
  1031. 1 year ago
  1032. Looks like we aren’t the only ones who are trying to find out info….
  1033. http://pastebin.com/JQR0FD1N
  1034.  
  1035.  
  1036. Nikolai Tesla
  1037. 1 year ago
  1038. As long as we still put pressure against Indiegogo and WEDG/SHEHBAZ AFZAL something will have to give. Definitely without a doubt this is a scam and I will not rest until the authorities bring to justice the responsible party.
  1039.  
  1040.  
  1041. S Walk
  1042. 1 year ago
  1043. And another month begins to slip by…silence on the radio…a desperate cry on the airwaves, faint, and without power: “Wedg! Where are you?”
  1044.  
  1045. Reply
  1046.  
  1047. S Walk
  1048. over 1 year ago
  1049. @Gaston Cardey, at this point I can’t believe the update from Wedg was more than hush money paid to keep Indiegogo from cancelling the campaign.
  1050.  
  1051. There is absolutely no reason why more frequent updates can’t be given – it’s not like said director has to report to an office in some far off city to submit it.
  1052.  
  1053. Reply
  1054.  
  1055. Gaston Cardey
  1056. over 1 year ago
  1057. @Bryan Walker. I was thinking exactly the same. And will go an go an go untill every one of us give up and never come back here.
  1058. At least, send me the HDD and will try to use them in any way (2 HDD of 1 Tb each).
  1059. There should be a way for these platforms offer some warranty or settlement to the poor basterds that fall into a scam like this.
  1060.  
  1061.  
  1062. Gaston Cardey
  1063. over 1 year ago
  1064. Oh! The HDD should be NEW, ok? NEW means not refurbished or used. OK?
  1065.  
  1066. S Walk
  1067. over 1 year ago
  1068. We taking bets on how long before another update? I’m guessing it’s going to be exactly the amount of time it takes for us to start yelling at Indiegogo again.
  1069.  
  1070. Reply
  1071.  
  1072. Scott McQueen
  1073. over 1 year ago
  1074. @Team Wedg: Thank you for the update but can you go into the a few more details. We would like to know about the new MD, their interest, background etc and also about the new team members. Surely a new website update would be in order and/or a forum where we, the investors could input our ideas.
  1075.  
  1076.  
  1077. jrogers31
  1078. over 1 year ago
  1079. @john34754 – as indicated in the comments thread below research suggests that the new director of the company is a fictional character / ghost / figment of someones imagination / not real. Smoke and mirrors to obfuscate the gullible.
  1080.  
  1081.  
  1082. john34754
  1083. over 1 year ago
  1084. A change of director for me is welcomed and overdue. Rather than bashing the new director and company I’m going to be positive and hope that Montrose Innovations can rescue the situation. Carol, please introduce yourself and the team and what roles you all will play. How do you intend to move forward? Regular updates are essential to backers preferably once a week. An update which has very little information or maybe includes setbacks must still be posted. We need to be kept in the loop.
  1085.  
  1086.  
  1087. Gaston Cardey
  1088. over 1 year ago
  1089. They don’t tell you in an open way, but if you read between lines, it’s perfectly clear: “We can’t do anything, sorry. The campaign owner is another failure of this crownfunding way. We have another guy who scam the backers (another and the total goes up to…).
  1090. We let that this things happen so others can deliver.”
  1091.  
  1092.  
  1093. Gaston Cardey
  1094. over 1 year ago
  1095. I’ve got a super-ultra-fantastic answer from IGG!
  1096. “In looking at your contribution to the campaign “WEDG: the personal cloud you’ve been waiting for,” I see that your contribution has already been sent to the campaigner. This means that a refund can no longer be issued by Indiegogo."
  1097. Really? Are you sure about this? Really-really sure? jjajjaejjajjejajejjejeja
  1098.  
  1099. See 1 more reply...
  1100.  
  1101. Gaston Cardey
  1102. over 1 year ago
  1103. ... "While your contribution brings the campaign idea closer to becoming reality, there's always the chance that a project may end up falling through, and the campaign owner may not be able to offer their contributors the perks they'd originally promised. If you’re still interested in receiving a refund, we recommend you get in touch with the campaign owner directly. Campaign Owner's: Carol Bohm-Scott, carol.bs@wedg.co" = You're all dumbs and you're scammed. But we (IGG) have our money.
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