Muh Individualism

These ideas are still abstractions from NW Europe.

I dont even disagree with a lot of libertarianism but I just cant imagine why you guys pretend it is universal


Abstractions from NW Europe. It isnt a complete system of human behavior, because people dont act as pure libertarians. It is a prescription which doesnt catch on even among the most liberty-minded people. also, "politics by crayon" has been kicking your ass from the Left for decades

right, you're defending abstractions from NW Europe without acknowledging that

actually we're rather pro-liberty where it counts: cares about maintaining a group which cares about liberty more than its usurpers do

the only way to preserve liberty, is for those liberty minded people to collectively possess a territory. You guys literally think collectivism is your little talisman rather than a fact of life

I agree, fellow gommunist, collectivism is a fact of human organization. And asserts itself in high risk or challenging situations. Same with authoritarian instincts kicking in during stressful periods, as per Haidt

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okay, you're going to lose your liberty to these demographic changes but at least you didnt "kick them out." I am saying they have no right to entrance and we should promote our preferred demographic

Unless you can tell me how you will quickly and effectively persuade them

So it (freedom loving institutions and Constitutional laws) will last forver? Even with radical demographic changes? You need to prove it can. Because there is no going back

un-libertarian populations will elect judges and officials who ignore all that. See, the 9th Circuit or really all of California

see, this is what I knew it was going to become. You have problems with certain human instincts and so you think forming these dichotomoties is a wise insight. When really it is just the way libertarians frame everything. No truth being broached, it's just political baggage

1) libertarianism is pretending abstractions from NW Europe are a complete way of living despite the natural experiment of society showing it isnt 2) race realism is relevant in the way all facts are relevant.

Some thoughts on individualism

- There's no such thing as just  the individual, our traits are shared
- What makes a person an individual is a combination of those traits
- We form a community around these traits
- To preserve your individuality you must protect that community

also, your community is the reason you have these traits. Either via shared genes, or the environment they create

It's more complex than just being up to you. Your situation is shaped by larger forces, so in order to be truly actualized, those forces need to be something which fosters cooperation without dependence, and a well-rounded healthy self.

Institutions arent separate from their populations. Officials cater to populations, come from them, and are raised in the context they create. They'll decide who takes the position, or the curriculum in the school where they are trained, or the political climate around the decisions they make.

huge risk to not care about demographics

Hispanics want bigger government with more services. As do Blacks. They vote democrat too., as do Asians (who have conformist societies)

https://www.prri.org/spotlight/libertariangotw/

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2012/04/20/hispanics-favor-bigger-role-for-government/
http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-size-of-government/bigger-government-more-services/racial-and-ethnic-composition/latino/
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427863-Pew-81-Hispanic-Immigrants-Want-Bigger-Government
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/19/libertarians-have-more-in-common-with-the-alt-right-than-they-want-you-to-think/?utm_term=.6644378193bc

In addition to how whites vote versus non-whites in Western nations (more conservatively, less as a bloc too)

Versus poor and small ex-communist nations being the outliers. And Russia
http://archive.is/VEj55
And really only some hispanic nations consistently do better than Russia.

I am asking you to prove, and have done so a few times, that liberty will survive the browning of America. On all metrics, Whites are more capitalist and freedom-loving than non-whites.

I have shown that versus non-whites, whites currently preserve liberty. Regardless of what white nationalists think, Liberty minded people cant convert brown people so whitey is their constituency. Which he is based on that poll of libertarianism

you need to show you can convert non-whites because you're "colorblind" and say demography doesnt matter, burden is on you

I say only whites come the closest to the governments I like and I cant change that so I promote white demography to preserve their demographic dominance over their nations which is unjust to take away anyway. I dont need to show an ethnostate will achieve your ideal level of liberty, but historically racially conscious Western Nations werent all socialists so I see no inherent conflict

I say whites are your best bet for getting a gov you find tolerable based on voting habits right now.

In the face of this you're basically saying you'd rather have 0% than 70%
https://twitter.com/thealthype/status/946037499687665670

Fewer non-whites even vote Republican, much less for Ron Paul

This is why I say the Burden is on u. I accept whites produce the society closest to my ideal, so I side with them

https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/5/2-3/203/1664339

This line "especially since most people calling for one have no interest in liberty" - this is radically untrue. In practice they're more libertarian than you (because you need whites for any liberty), and in theory they're about half way between you and a mainstream republican.

White nationalists are more libertarian than white people in general unless you consider the requirement to be politically dominated by other races and have them impose big government on you as a central tenet to libertarianism.