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  1. acidphoenix (haven't talked too)
  2. - Lack of reads. According to everyone I've talked too, the most extensive read this slot has given is an outdated Marth read. Forming reads in OC is harder as scum, so this is a stronger tell than it would otherwise be.
  3. - Hasn't been pushed significantly. As town, he would be an easy push for scum to make. The fact that very few players have openly admitted to wanting to Lynch Acid makes him less likely to be town.
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  5. Overall: Scum. Literally nothing points towards being town. Kind of paranoid because a lurker lynch is still a lurker lynch, but he's literally the lurker I feel the worst about (Weapons is close, but I've come to realize that I just can't read Weapons).
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  7. Ampharos (somewhat talked too)
  8. + The way they claimed is town. I don't see scum being like "make me town leader" but then instantly stepping down when someone else claims it unless they're both scum (and I have a strong town read on Brooklyn).
  9. ??? Not sure about the role. It's a useless filler role but it's also a super shitty fake claim for scum.
  10. - They've barely talked to me. This isn't scummy in and of itself but I feel like a Town Leader would be reaching out to most if not all players every day, and I have no idea what their stances are on anything. People claim that Ampharos is town but besides the way they claimed (which is a good reason), I'm not seeing the why.
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  12. Overall: True Null. Kind of frustrated that the person who has my claim and is leading town isn't a strong read for me.
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  14. Athena_57 (talked too)
  15. - His reluctance to take a side WRT early Elie/Snike wagons is bad. I don't get why Town!Him needs to worry about them having enough pressure when he himself didn't pressure anyone at the time. Reads as a reluctance to be in the spotlight.
  16. +- His reads progression from Marth to Elie was good. Brooklyn mentioned he was willing to vote Phoenix after Elie, despite Elie being his strongest scum read. This would be fine if it was purely for consolidation, but Brooklyn implied that that wasn't the case.
  17. / It feels like his activity spiked around the middle of Day 1, when he was being pressured the most, but has been very minimalistic otherwise.
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  19. Overall: Leaning Scum. I need to see where his pushes have been at today, especially since he hasn't expressed an opinion on me despite me being the largest wagon.
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  21. Blitz (somewhat talked too)
  22. + Gut read. Barely talked to him, but from his tone and the way he questioned me, I think his read (Athena) is less likely to come from scum. Would like to see more out of him.
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  24. Overall: Leaning Town. Want to interact w/him more.
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  26. CT075/Cam (talked too)
  27. + Solid read progression. In particular, I like his exchange w/Elie, I like how he scumreads Marf but for a different reason than the on thread reason, and I like his progression on KTS.
  28. + The way we bounce reads off of each other would be hard to fake for him as scum.
  29. + Tells me I'm being turbolynched. I don't get why Scum!Cam would want to do this unless both me/people turbolynching me are town and he wants town to focus fire on us, and I definitely don't think all of the latter group is town.
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  31. Overall: Town. I'm a bit nervous because I don't know his current stance on things, but otherwise I don't really have any issues with the slot.
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  33. dyachei (somewhat talked too)
  34. ??? Haven't talked too.
  35.  
  36. ??? I'm talking to you right now.
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  38. eclipse (haven't talked too)
  39. ??? Haven't talked too.
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  41. ??? Sorry, Eclipse. Will do so when I'm not busy.
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  43. Elieson (talked too)
  44. + Strong tone read. I talk to Elie a decent amount out of game, and the way he spoke in our OC conversation was pretty similar to that. Scum!Elie would read as more forced or less natural to me, so I feel confident here.
  45. + I don't get most of the scum reads on his slot. I get where Marth's scum read on him comes from, but I don't agree that Elie scum reading for questionable reasons comes from Scum!Elie. The other scum reads just make no sense to me, literally negative level sheepable here.
  46. + Same thing as Cam. I don't see how Scum!Elie benefits from telling me I'm about to be turbolynched.
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  48. Overall: Town. I can get why SFers would read his incomprehensible logic as scummy (because his reads make even less sense as scum...), but I can get his progression here more and everything I said above as well.
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  50. Euklyd (somewhat talked too)
  51. ??? Euklyd's in this game?
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  53. Overall: True Null. Day 1, he gets a pass because he was playing EiMM. Euklyd's pretty okay at OC, so if he's not bouncing reads off of people by the end of the day, then he's probably scum.
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  55. EvanMMM (talked too)
  56. - More concerned about looking productive than catching scum. Asks pointless questions that lead nowhere, has conclusions created before he has even finished interacting, starts fights w/other player publicly for seemingly no purpose, eggs other players on.
  57. - Despite all of the posturing, has very few defined scum reads. These scum reads I take issue with because his reasoning is either non existent or is just there to explain how he got the scum read with very little thought process behind it.
  58. - Very closed off about his reads. This is antitown, and scummy coming from him who expects other people to be open about their reads and scum reads them for not doing so.
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  60. Overall: Scum. Can't see town intent in any of his later actions. He made some earlier reads which seemed fine to me, but since then has basically been very loud without the actual reads to back that up.
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  62. Iris (haven't talked too)
  63. - The way she handled her scum read on me is bad. She made it come across to SB as if it was her own read (even though she didn't elaborate on it, which makes me think that it was shipped from KTS), and she hasn't made any efforts to build on this read in any way.
  64. - Her lack of other scum reads. She had a scum read on Elie stated on thread, which I don't really understand. She also had a gut scum read on Eclipse, which is fine but doesn't make me feel better about this slot in particular.
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  66. Overall: Scum. I'm legitimately surprised no one else has been pushing this other than me and SB.
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  68. Killthestory (somewhat talked too)
  69. - Don't like how he puts people in groups and asks them to read each other while offering very few reads of his own.
  70. + His analysis on me felt like he actually thought about my content and play style before putting down a vote on me. This is different from most other cases on my slot, which are either lazy or just trying to paint me as scum w/o the proper analysis. I thought him trying to turbolynch me at the time was scummy but considering he attempted to do the same to several other players as well (who I'm scum reading as well), I think this is less a calculated scum move and more suboptimal OC play.
  71. + His desperation for a lynch at deadline makes more sense as town. As scum, he'd push for a specific lynch, but as town he'd be okay with lynching anyone who bothers him, which is what the case was here. I also don't think scum would be so transparent about this.
  72. ??? Why does town need two variations of the same role (Kill's role and Brooklyn's)? I'm not sure what to think of this because I don't really have enough information to go off of here.
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  74. Overall: Town. Some things still bother me but overall I can't see this coming from scum.
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  76. Magnificence/Marth (haven't talked too)
  77. + Early read on him was based on a misunderstanding, yet it still gained significant traction. This is more likely to be town, as it's a read that scum could easily jump on.
  78. + Logs with other people and his on thread Elie vote showcase his thought process, which would feel more forced if he was scum (judging from offsite, where a lot of his scum reads were extremely contrived).
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  80. Overall: Town. Frustrated that he hasn't talked to me and votes me instead, which is hypocritical because he called me out on doing the same thing towards him. I don't think hypocrisy is scummy, but he should really be reaching out to me here which is my biggest hangup with the slot.
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  82. Omega (talked too)
  83. + Tone wise, he feels exactly like he was in the last game. He feels like he's along for the ride at times, but the way he questioned me didn't come across as scummy to me.
  84. - Him voting me bothers me on gut because I feel like as scum, he'd definitely want to lynch/pocket me because it'd be funny.
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  86. Overall: Leaning town. I don't really have any concrete reasons for being bothered by his slot, but something feels off in a way that I can't have a stronger town read on him. I feel like our reads would resonate more or he'd reach out to me more, I dunno.
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  88. Refa (talked too)
  89. + Town
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  91. Overall: =)
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  93. SB (talked too)
  94. ??? His role is great for Town Leader, he himself is a great Town Leader player, and yet he doesn't want to be Town Leader. I can relate to his point of view here, but I'm kinda wary at the same time.
  95. + As scum, his reads tend to be a lot more static. Here, his reads on Athena, KTS, and Elie in particular all have changed and I think as scum that change would look less natural to me.
  96. + Tone read but it doesn't feel like he's decided his opinion beforehand in many of his logs, which is what I'd expect from scum. Also he's not really fishing for information, which he does more as scum.
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  98. Overall: Town. I feel like some of the stuff I'm town reading him for isn't outside his scum repertoire, but that it's way more likely to just be coming from Town!SB in the context of this game.
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  100. Shinori (somewhat talked too)
  101. + When confronted about his reason for casing me, his explanation was legit and not forced at all. Scum!Shinori would be more confrontational here rather than calmly laying down his thoughts and walking away.
  102. ??? I don't have any strong opinions on his actual reads, having not interacted with him significantly nor have I interacted w/others who have interacted w/him significantly.
  103. + His claim is obvious town. Only offsite chumps would have a mafia killing role that could be used right away.
  104. + Interactions with EMMM definitely don't make sense as scum/scum, and I can get his reasoning behind his EMMM scumread.
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  106. Overall: Town. I'd like to see where his head is at more, but I have no issues with his slot at all.
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  108. Snike (talked too)
  109. - His initial Marth read framed Marth as having slipped, when that was not the case. The way this happened moreso than being incorrect is what bothers me.
  110. - Has mostly laid low since, not really committing to any stances or pushing players. As town, I'd expect Snike to have more public pushes or interactions than just his Marth read.
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  112. Overall: Scum. I don't feel as strongly about this because he has done some things and I thought his tone when we were OCing was fine, but everything else bothers me.
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  114. SullyMcGully (formerly Brooklyn) (talked too)
  115. + Fearless town leader. The way Brooklyn claimed was town. Scum!Brooklyn wouldn't want to undercut Scum!Ampharos' town leader bid for obvious reasons, and she wouldn't want to undercut Town!Ampharos' town leader bid because it's a huge risk for scum.
  116. + Role seems more likely to be town. A more situational mayor that works in LYLO doesn't make sense as scum to me.
  117. + The way she read people feels genuine to me. It's not really the progression, moreso how she analyzed logs (tried to see town/scum intent in everything) came across as townie. Scum doesn't need to do this because they can just fake an end read and make up a progression from there.
  118. + Brooklyn called off a lynch on me. This is a horrible scum move, lynching me D1 when I'm under suspicion takes out a decent town player for free.
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  120. Overall: Town. I'm scared for the future, too.
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  122. Via (haven't talked too)
  123. + Gut read from the amount of in thread posts to out of thread. I don't think Via has played OC ever, so him playing it more like NOC is something I'd expect him to do as town.
  124. + In thread progression on Elie and Athena reads was good. It'd be easier for Scum!Via to stick to an Elie vote here over moving on to Athena (a much weaker case). Would like to know Via's current thoughts on Athena, but otherwise is okay.
  125. ??? Tried reaching out to him but got nothing. This benefits scum more, which worries me.
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  127. Overall: Leaning town. Despite the weaker read, I'm not too worried here because I feel like if I can OC w/Via, he'll become an easy read for me.
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  129. Weapons (somewhat talked too)
  130. - Read acidphoenix. I'm not as sure because no one I know has said anything about him (as opposed to acid, where Brooklyn mentioned that it felt like he was deliberately avoiding giving reads). Not sure if he's been interacting w/people in the background.
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  132. Overall: Leaning scum. Town!Weapons would be lazy too, but I think he'd offer more of his own personal opinion over mindlessly sweeping.
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  134. Lynch Priority (from scummiest to towniest)
  135. EvanMMM > Iris > Acid > Snike >> Weapons > Athena >> Ampharos > dyachei = eclipse = Euklyd >> Blitz > Omega > Via >> Elieson > Bluedoom > Killthestory > SB > Cam > Sully > Shinori
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