Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:44 PM
Nice to everyone but the natives, of course. :loweffort:
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:44 PM
That was mostly American's tbh ;-)
IDTia - Today at 12:44 PM
Canadians used the Maple Syrup Trenches to prevent the movment of american troops in the 1600s
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:44 PM
squints
I mean
Canada wasnt a thing until 1867
IDTia - Today at 12:45 PM
also no the canadians have no treated the remote populations kindly from what I've read
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:45 PM
xD
IDTia - Today at 12:45 PM
shhhh
secret underground wars
Canada and america are older th an you think
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:45 PM
And dude we literally give the ''natives'' more than we giveanyone anything else
mkalash - Today at 12:45 PM
idtia go get an education
ill be your teacher and you can wear a schoolgirl outfit
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:45 PM
Yes, leaving native women on the highway in the middle of a blizzard is nice.
So are reinstitution centers.
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:46 PM
I have ''native'' relatives, my cousine has kids, she doesn't have a job, and she gets more money than I do a month
Adhesive - Today at 12:46 PM
i mean Trudeau is literally banned from some indigenous places for being a huge liar
Chike101 - Today at 12:46 PM
When did those centers end up finally shutting down
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:46 PM
1990-something.
Nineteen. Ninety.
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:47 PM
Natives don't pay taxes, they get free child care, get status cards which gives them discounts on shit- But we only take from them XD
:loweffort:
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:47 PM
Hi, native here
Apple Master - Today at 12:47 PM
:canofworms:
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:47 PM
pays taxes
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:47 PM
In Canada?
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:47 PM
Yes
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:47 PM
Yeah I was about to ping my native amiga over here.
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:48 PM
shrugs I have native realitves and none of them have to
Adhesive - Today at 12:48 PM
but n00b, it's much easier to make broad, sweeping, generalized statements based on anecdotal evidence
which is also totally not racist at all
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:48 PM
I'm the first generation in my family to make it off the reserve, and there is a lot more shit than just money
Apple Master - Today at 12:48 PM
Lke that isnt what people are doing by going "I'm a native tho"
That's anecdotal too fam
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:48 PM
i've been to 9 fucking funerals in the past 10 years
i've seen cousins die
aunts die
uncles
but y'know
Gero - Today at 12:48 PM
fucking natives invading america smh
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:48 PM
we get tax breaks for some of us
:shrug:
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:49 PM
How many generations is it gonna take for natives to repair?
Seven, right?
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:49 PM
Around that yes
Chike101 - Today at 12:49 PM
You people are the reason it's not profitable to run a cigarette store or casino smh
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:49 PM
Honestly that whole situation is fucked.
Chike101 - Today at 12:49 PM
:^)
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:49 PM
SHould I go into detail about how 5000 or more children were killed in residential schools?
IDTia - Today at 12:49 PM
Im looking up the treatment of the native population
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:49 PM
Regardless of which country.
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:50 PM
from what little i know as an amerifat
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
about how they were raped?
beaten?
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:50 PM
canadian natives really don't have some
easy life style
IDTia - Today at 12:50 PM
Like yea, it was bad, may be getting better, but I remember it being terrible
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
Like any other race
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:50 PM
Not just natives get that, just, btw
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
hasnt been raped or beaten
You realise that other people have to see family die too
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
It's still very fresh
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
You are not particularly persecuted because an uncle died
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
The effects are still there in the communities
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
And your anecdotal evidence as a native doesn't outweigh anyone's as a non native
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
The number of suicides?
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
It's all anecdotal either way
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:51 PM
Like actually fuck you guys
Adhesive - Today at 12:51 PM
it's happened to other people so that totally detracts from the devastating impact it has had on your people in particular :thinking:
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:51 PM
@Apple Master just because other races get beaten that doesn't devalue the raping and beating of canadian natives
???
what the fuck dude
Adhesive - Today at 12:51 PM
what sound logic AM
;-; - Today at 12:51 PM
I'm going to apply this logic to the holocaust now
Apple Master - Today at 12:51 PM
>logic
>bs12
kk
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:51 PM
fine way to dodge the question
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:51 PM
Everything that happens to natives is alright because it happened to other races right?
Gero - Today at 12:51 PM
yea
Apple Master - Today at 12:51 PM
Neither of you asked a question
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:51 PM
We've gone from insulting our playerbase to attacking a race, let's go boys.(edited)
Gero - Today at 12:51 PM
of course
IDTia - Today at 12:52 PM
I dident know you could get that low,
top meme sir
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:52 PM
like honestly apple what the fuck
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:52 PM
I never realized how shit Bay was
to fucking invalidate the deaths of people I knew
and the effects of what happened to them
Gero - Today at 12:52 PM
man he gotta defend his girl
;-; - Today at 12:52 PM
grill
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:53 PM
Not trying to invalidate it,
@Gero Huh?
Adhesive - Today at 12:53 PM
but you do such a good job
IDTia - Today at 12:53 PM
Im with asillyn00b on that
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:53 PM
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
Like any other race
:maple_leaf:Daaneesh:maple_leaf: - Today at 12:50 PM
Not just natives get that, just, btw
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
hasnt been raped or beaten
You realise that other people have to see family die too
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
It's still very fresh
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
You are not particularly persecuted because an uncle died
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:50 PM
The effects are still there in the communities
Apple Master - Today at 12:50 PM
And your anecdotal evidence as a native doesn't outweigh anyone's as a non native
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:53 PM
http://i.imgur.com/H8kBTw1.png

sounds like some hefty fucking invalidation
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 12:53 PM
<RKF> hi~
<GinjaNinja32> hi rkf
<chinsky> good timing RKF grab pop corn
<RKF> what's up
<chinsky> drama
<RKF> grabs popcorn
<RKF> are we getting rid of apples
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:54 PM
i didn't know it was an endorsed thing for community moderators to hold these vile opinions
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 12:54 PM
<chinsky> unlikely
<chinsky> given past record
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:54 PM
You mentioned rape and beatings, and the way you worded it made it sound like only natives get that- Which is infact not true at all. I know people that get raped and beat all the time, and it has 0 to do with their race.
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 12:54 PM
<RKF> so wigo
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:54 PM
It had a fucking lot to do with their race!
what do you think residential schools were?!
jesus christ
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:54 PM
Racism is a problem, yes, but not every single thing out there is because of it
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:54 PM
that was never stated what the fuck daan
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 12:54 PM
<NanoTrasen_Inc> [Baystation12] nearlyNonexistent opened issue #17663: Monkey "Dupe" Bug with Fire Extinguishers https://git.io/vQ8P9
Gero - Today at 12:55 PM
lol what
;-; - Today at 12:55 PM
Excpet this exact thing being talked about is literally about race
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:55 PM
It is a fucking problem in canada!
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:55 PM
the thing we're talking about is literally natives being raped and beaten because of their race
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:55 PM
I'm native, I think I would know a lot more about the treatment of my people
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 12:55 PM
I WANNA GET OFF MR. BAY'S WILD RIDE BOYOS.
IDTia - Today at 12:55 PM
There is no escaping
It's only to dig a deeper and deeper hole
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:55 PM
Like i'm the first generation of kids in my family to not spend a majority of my life on the reserve
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 12:56 PM
<NanoTrasen_Inc> [Baystation12] comma closed issue #17663: Monkey "Dupe" Bug with Fire Extinguishers https://git.io/vQ8P9
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:56 PM
Dude- I never once said anything against you. But okay
Ymir - Today at 12:56 PM
popcorn
Adhesive - Today at 12:56 PM
and this is what it looks like to be completely out of touch with reality and other human beings
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:56 PM
Just invalidating what I said
IDTia - Today at 12:56 PM
yuuuup
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:56 PM
invalidating a canadian native's experience is totally benign, dude
yeah!
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:56 PM
"Other races get raped, so natives shouldn't be so uppity about it"
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:57 PM
Not that I'm not enjoying this lovely talking in circles,but think I'm just gunna walk away and let you assume I'm some racists blind asshole :-)
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:57 PM
Yeah, go fuck yourself
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 12:57 PM
<3
Adhesive - Today at 12:57 PM
and you're going to walk away sincerely thinking you aren't
and nobody wins
Comrade Spooky - Today at 12:57 PM
fuck off daan
Ymir - Today at 12:57 PM
Wow
F-Tang Steve - Today at 12:57 PM
Wow
Ok
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:57 PM
You are an actual cunt
I thought you were somewhat okay before
Apple Master - Today at 12:57 PM
OKay
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:57 PM
but nope
Apple Master - Today at 12:57 PM
Obviously people have different experiences . ASN's is more valid because they're a native, sure.
At this point I don't think the discussion is really going to go anywhere decent though
Gero - Today at 12:58 PM
that not the fuckign point
well
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:58 PM
Oh no my expierience isn't valid you see, this happens to other races
Gero - Today at 12:58 PM
more decent than her
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:58 PM
so it's okay
Apple Master - Today at 12:58 PM
No one meant to imply that
Poor wording
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:58 PM
Sure fucking sounded like it
Apple Master - Today at 12:58 PM
I apologise for my part in that - but it wasn't what I meant to say.
King Louis XIV - Today at 12:58 PM
:clown~1:
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:59 PM
You understand why I would be so angry yes? To have people I loved who have died
and then to have their deaths invalidated?
Apple Master - Today at 12:59 PM
I understand that yeah
Ymir - Today at 12:59 PM
man this is so not the place
Apple Master - Today at 12:59 PM
It's hard for me to imagine how that feels so I obviously reacted in a shit way
Because to me, loss is like "My grandad died at 93 and that sucks"
Asillyn00b - Today at 12:59 PM
To see that so many people have shitty lives because of racism that is still extremely fresh?
Apple Master - Today at 12:59 PM
To you i imagine its a lot harder
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:00 PM
That a whole generation of kids were stolen from their homes and don't know how to parent because of that?
Ymir - Today at 1:00 PM
sounds like any war generation
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:00 PM
That so many of them have PTSD from their expieriences?
Apple Master - Today at 1:00 PM
@Ymir Not the place, but also not the time to go "stop discussing this"
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 1:00 PM
Literally not what I meant by that at all.
The way YOU worded it made it seem like ONLY NATIVES experience that- I was stating that it is not at all true. I don't givea fuck where you were born or what colour your skin is. I have plenty of non-white friends and family that I love to death, and I know a lot of people that have been raped/beaten and it had absolutely nothing to do with what colour they are.
But hey, I'm the racists cunt.
Ymir - Today at 1:00 PM
stops throwing water on the fire.
IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 1:00 PM
<RKF> Apple_Master no private eye mang :(
Ymir - Today at 1:00 PM
kay
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:01 PM
To say it happens to other races so I shouldn't be so whiny about it does make you a cunt
Adhesive - Today at 1:01 PM
well there's also the fact that you literally said all natives get tax breaks, welfare and other benefits, Daaneesh
Apple Master - Today at 1:01 PM
I don't believe anyone meant to imply that ASN's experience was wrong or invalid. Or that the feelings were invalid.
King Louis XIV - Today at 1:01 PM
@Ymir Stay calm and just honk.
Adhesive - Today at 1:01 PM
and put it in a very derogatory light
Ymir - Today at 1:01 PM
:honk~1:
YouAreABigLizard - Today at 1:01 PM
I wish someone could give me a rundown on the events
Apple Master - Today at 1:01 PM
Also Daan maybe be mistaken because in her experience that's been the case.
Adhesive - Today at 1:01 PM
but yeah, no, totally not racist
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:01 PM
Adhesive - Today at 1:01 PM
well there's also the fact that you literally said all natives get tax breaks, welfare and other benefits, Daaneesh
Adhesive - Today at 1:01 PM
and put it in a very derogatory light
this too
Apple Master - Today at 1:01 PM
Sure
But if you adjust that to
"All natives I know"
Then it's not so bad right?
And also what she meant
Ymir - Today at 1:01 PM
how about we just make a new channel for politics
so it doesn't run over in here
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 1:02 PM
God no.
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 1:02 PM
And literally all my native relatives do get tax breaks and shit- If other parts of Canada don't do that, it's news to me, and sorry forassuming- My bad.
Apple Master - Today at 1:02 PM
This is less politics and more poorly chosen words
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 1:02 PM
Politics channels are
Apple Master - Today at 1:02 PM
And I'd rather put it to bed than go "lets stop discussing it"
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 1:02 PM
fucking awful
Apple Master - Today at 1:02 PM
Or suggest another channel
Because politics channels are a noooooooope
Emoji Movie July 28th - Today at 1:02 PM
it always ends up with someone defending Hitler or something.
YouAreABigLizard - Today at 1:02 PM
Hey guys
did you, umm, know
say
King Louis XIV - Today at 1:02 PM
Politics boards/channels are always going to end up polarized to one side and become an absoLUTE shitshow
YouAreABigLizard - Today at 1:02 PM
that hitler
King Louis XIV - Today at 1:02 PM
don't
do it
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:03 PM
I hate being fucking generalized because some of us get tax breaks
I get fuck all for that
Adhesive - Today at 1:03 PM
ok well i'm glad you've recognized the issue but that assumption in and of itself is what we call 'racist' being that it is an assumption based on race
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:03 PM
because my ancestors didn't sign a stupid fucking piece of paper
Gero - Today at 1:03 PM
maybe they get tax breaks because they are poor and can't pay them
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:03 PM
But I get lumped in with them
Chike101 - Today at 1:03 PM
Hi loose cannon moderator here saying HARD NO to a politics channel
Gero - Today at 1:03 PM
that kinda how it work in my country
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:03 PM
i'm a bad person for that
appearently
Apple Master - Today at 1:03 PM
@adhesive Sometimes all people can do is recognise that they made an assumption
Ugh why didnt that work
Adhesive - Today at 1:03 PM
im gay
߷Real Boy߷ - Today at 1:03 PM
Can we have a space politicschannel
Adhesive - Today at 1:03 PM
hlaughuglhglghl
Apple Master - Today at 1:04 PM
Sometimes people make assumptions that may be incorrect yeah, because a lot of people are bought up in environments where X is the case.
All we can do is go "okay, that was my bad"
And not do it in future.
Gero - Today at 1:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79hRMiSMxFY&t=0s
YouTube
Poppy
You're Racist


IRCBridgeBOT - Today at 1:04 PM
<NanoTrasen_Inc> @Gero: You're Racist - YouTube
Adhesive - Today at 1:04 PM
sure but you have to recognize where that assumption was coming from otherwise the "okay my bad" is a totally meaningless "sorry i got called out"
Apple Master - Today at 1:04 PM
Okay true
But I think racist as a like..."label" is pretty aggressive
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:05 PM
What Daan said, and how it was said had some racist undertones
Apple Master - Today at 1:05 PM
An assumption that was based on the race of a person/people - yeah, its "racist"
But
I don't think that makes Daan or Myself a racist
ChaosAlpha - Today at 1:05 PM
Humans have a large bias towards generating often false inductive associations
🍁Daaneesh🍁 - Today at 1:05 PM
@Asillyn00b So I'm sorry if I said something that pissed you off or made it seem like I was dismissve. I'm not trying to generalize you or your race, I made an assumption based off of what I know for native people in Canada, to be a thing in all of Canada and not just bits and parts. I understand that you have reserves and schools because there are racists asshats around that can and will fuck you up, and I'm not at all trying to say that it doesn't exist. I was trying to say that it's not just a race issue.

Honestly though, who cares why people do it, it's the fact that those people are awul shit heads and they need to die a horrible death so we can stop shit like that from happening to anyone.
Apple Master - Today at 1:05 PM
That was certainly never my intention
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:06 PM
I was trying to say that it's not just a race issue.
except that it was and is
Residential schools were literally about killing the indian in the child
YouAreABigLizard - Today at 1:06 PM
Let us move to /pol/ instead, it's nice and comfy there
Asillyn00b - Today at 1:06 PM
And the effects of said schools are extremely fresh