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May I say something about the permadeath?
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shoot
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Overall, I really enjoy how it was handled. It really brought a sense of stakes to the logs (admittedly it got almost a little goofy during the final battle, but the permadeaths in the leadup were definitely appropriately heavy)
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But one thing I would really, strongly encourage that you do if you allow player permadeath in a future game, is that if the character has close castmates (or even extremely close CR), tell the player to talk to or at the very least warn their castmates before they go through with the decision to permadie
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I sort of ended up on both sides of this - Buttercup asked me if Gaston could die saving LeFou as a fitting end to his arc before permadeath was officially approved, and I said yes, because it was great
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and that was a really fitting end to Gaston's arc, and it's really bittersweet and it gave them the chance to get closure that canon never actually gave them.
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but then I was completely blindsided by Ford and Fiddleford in group 2, and in the span of one tag it went from what I thought would be a fantastic canon parallel/bookend for Stan (actually being able to save Ford from falling into a portal this time), to completely yanking the rug out from under him and making it feel like, well.
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like he'd been locked out of a really "happy" ending, no matter how much sweet got put into the "bittersweet" ending that he got.
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So in the future I would just encourage people to run the plans by their characters' family/closest castmates because honestly, being blindsided with a close castmate's (in this case, arguably the closest castmate) permadeath sucks
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and that's all I've got to say about that so thanks for listening
ᴍᴀɴɢʟᴇᴅ ☽
yknow ri i agree that itd be nice to know if your castmate/close cr is gonna do something like permadeath but at the same time this is a murdergame and like characters rolled for murders-- not everyones gonna wanna spoil the surprise for something like this. it's ultimately their decisions what they did with their characters and like ill be honest
ᴍᴀɴɢʟᴇᴅ ☽
you've been acting very rude and complaining every chance you get about ford and fiddleford and i feel honestly bad for them to have to deal with it.
ᴍᴀɴɢʟᴇᴅ ☽
like i'm sorry that stan had to deal with losing ford again and i get that that kind of thing does make a character unplayable but ultimately its rp and youve been acting like it was a Personal Attack Towards You and it's very unprofessional and uncool
ᴍᴀɴɢʟᴇᴅ ☽
im not involved with anything that transpired there but it's been bugging me for the last couple of days now so i just wanted to say something
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re: the permadeaths in the final battle because that’s easier to address: most of those were goofy just bc of the chars involved. i.e. nobody is going to sorely miss preston and that’s why his death is a bit more comedic because that’s how the player wanted to handle -his- arc, same with negaduck. same with slim and oogie. that log was more uphill in tone.
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whereas stuff that had a bit more weight to it like marco’s fakeout death/injury or facilier were treated seriously and given actual attention by the players
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I wasn't critiquing the goofy deaths in the final battle, for sure!
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more lighthearted moments were definitely within the style, and I dug it a lot.
RandomStranger
I just wanna say that, as someone that was kinda against the whole 'permadeath' thing, I still think it was done well, and I do like that there was a murdergame that was really willing to do it. The only reason I was really bitter was because I just let my emotions get the best of me, and I do feel bad about that. I still think it was all was good in the end
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buuutttt i also kind of agree with blake in the regards that if a player wants to round out their character arc in a certain way like that i don’t necessarily believe that they should have to ask the permission of another player to do it unless they want them INVOLVED during that
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I think when it comes down to it we are -still- a murdergame and even though we were a little unorthodox with it, you still kind of have to be prepared for other players springing death on you, especially when we’re people who gleefully talk in murder planning about emotionally devastating other players/characters
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That's fair, and perhaps I worded it too strongly. I'm not saying you should like, require a certain amount of permissions to do it, but I know how easy it is to get caught up in an echo chamber of planning something out
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But I can acknowledge when I'm being disagreed with, so I'll step out now.