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- david - Today at 12:50 AM
- i assume at some point you noticed that i wasn't picking up on anything secondary(edited)
- why did saying something become not an option
- was it better to keep it that way and let things like this go unsaid?
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:50 AM
- sure lets dive into it i guess
- for this specific example, david, yes, you were supposed to come to me a week ago, and apologize
- we could have squashed it
- and moved on
- you are supposed to know that your behavior on that night was unacceptable, for your best friend, your family, much less a random person you met in the last 3 months
- you are supposed to have a concious telling you "man that was acttually kinda fucked lol maybe i scared victtor by holding a loaded firearm in his face with my finger on the trigger"
- this, "awkard" discussion
- and tonights outburst
- is a direct result of you not being able to comprehend how fucked up your actions were
- if you said a slur, or ssomething offensive, or somethtiing that irked me
- i would have told you in a private way. liike, no, you aren't supposed to know i don't liike the word "applesauce"
- but you are supposed to know not to point a gun at someone
- and then laugh and joke about it
- david - Today at 12:53 AM
- the way you mentioned it sounded like a joke
- before tonight I had no idea you were like actually terrified
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
- my man thiss is what fucks me up
- david - Today at 12:54 AM
- and I should have known, you were right
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
- how do you not understand that guns are intriinsiically scary
- david - Today at 12:54 AM
- I only wish you had told me before
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:54 AM
- i shouldn't have to tell you
- this iis my poiint
- this is liike telling you not to jump into a woodchipper
- i wish you had told me earlier not to hit myself in the dick with a hammer victtor
- david - Today at 12:54 AM
- my only experience with bb guns is getting shot with one and having it hurt midlly
- you're right but what I'm really trying to say is that you didn't have to have this conversation in front of everyone
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:55 AM
- you... pulled it out of me david
- how do you not see that
- i told you immediately that was wrong
- not iin a jokey way
- everyone else did too
- and then you just kept... joking
- probably because it dawned on you that it was fucked up, and you want to contiinue makiing people laugh
- i get it
- david - Today at 12:56 AM
- yeah cause i realized you actually got scared
- but like
- why did you have to do that in front of everyone
- did you really need to
- you couldn't pm me?
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:57 AM
- sure i could have
- but maybe,
- you could have too
- a week ago
- after doing it
- you pulled it out of me david
- david - Today at 12:57 AM
- until tonight I didn't understand how scared you were
- which is why I didn't think much of it
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:57 AM
- you came at me, with complete disregard for my emotions, jokingly referring to that moment
- and you want me to... respect you
- and pm you
- that isn't how shit works my man
- david - Today at 12:58 AM
- if you had just said the day after "hey David you really scared me" it would have been a different story
- so you felt like you had to work it out publicly
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:58 AM
- i didn't have to do that, and maybe a more mature person would have messaged you privately, but in honesty, you were pissiing me off so much that it wasn't fucking getting to you SSTILL
- not to mention everyone in the chat was present
- when it happened
- david - Today at 12:59 AM
- you were immature
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 12:59 AM
- you were tenfold immature on several occasions leading up to it
- so i guess you still owe me iin this emotional warfare you seem to enjoy conducting
- i want to forgive you and be understanding because you're still 18
- but you are making me mad now, david
- david - Today at 1:00 AM
- this is what happens when you let things go unsaid
- both of us are thinking to each other "how does this person not get it"
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
- im glad i was the person who taught you that you shouldn't point guns at peoples faces
- david - Today at 1:00 AM
- and now it comes out in the worst way
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
- it wont happen again
- right
- david - Today at 1:00 AM
- it won't
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:00 AM
- great, most people wouldn't let it happen a first time
- we aren't compariing apples to apples here david
- david - Today at 1:01 AM
- im not trying to make a comparison
- you were right and I don't dispute that
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:01 AM
- you are 100% undoubtedly unbridledly in the wrong from anyones perspective and the fact that you're sitting here scrambling looking for things to blame me on is fucking infuriattiing
- just
- fucking stop
- and say okay, lets move on
- i already forgave you
- david - Today at 1:02 AM
- ok
- but i want to say for the future that if we talk and you don't want me to please tell me
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:02 AM
- i will be sure to
- nobody else in my lifie though, david, noboddy else asks for this
- not even kiids younger than you
- david - Today at 1:03 AM
- because I left that conversation we had thinking we established some level of understanding
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:03 AM
- nah sorry man it barely rung any bells
- david - Today at 1:04 AM
- you saying that now rather than earlier pulls out the rug from the way I thought about it(edited)
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:04 AM
- then lets gett it straight i'm happy to hang with you smoke pot play games and listen to music
- talking about life advice in victor's direction? nah
- and ii won't give any to you either unless you ask
- david - Today at 1:05 AM
- that's totally fine
- i just wish you told me this earlier because now, again, were having to fix it after the fact(edited)
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:06 AM
- what do you want me to do go back in time and prevent you from pointiing a gun at me
- stop, david
- please
- stop
- we have moved past it
- david - Today at 1:06 AM
- these are seperate things were talking about
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:06 AM
- if you never did that we would have no need for this convo
- that advice you gave me wasn't half bad
- it became 100% bad when you pointed a gun at me 15 minutes later
- david - Today at 1:06 AM
- im taking about the "i didn't really want you to keep talking but I didn't want to say anything" bit
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:07 AM
- yeah sorry for being polite then i guess i had no idea it would lead to this situation?
- david - Today at 1:07 AM
- the two are not really connected
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:07 AM
- no amount of "awkwardness" i put you throguh tonight compares to what you did
- you even still talking about it is amaziing
- david - Today at 1:07 AM
- they're not conmected
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:08 AM
- i am aksing you kiindly to stop
- david - Today at 1:08 AM
- ok
- victor kipnis invincible - Today at 1:08 AM
- thank you
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