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[12:00am] • Alivi dances
[12:00am] Alivi: how are things
[12:02am] • Nioki does the lambada.
[12:02am] Nioki: Not too bad. Though I've been spending more than I should on Steam sales. How're you?
[12:03am] Alivi: lol
[12:04am] Magnobile left the chat room. (Client exited)
[12:05am] Magnobile joined the chat room.
[12:06am] Magnobile: boooop
[12:06am] Alivi: noooo
[12:10am] • Magnobile boops Alivi's nose
[12:10am] Alivi: http://pokemonmelodic.b1.jcink.com/index.php?showtopic=39
[12:10am] Alivi: do these still move?
[12:12am] Nioki: Ooh, how's pokemon melodic going?
[12:12am] Alivi: getting the bare bones up
[12:14am] • Magnobile twirls Alivi, slips an arm around her waist and dips, moving in, lips almost touching, "Alivi, come with me, please, you and me, we can boop the night away."
[12:14am] Alivi: is.....
[12:14am] Alivi: the
[12:14am] Alivi: pictures
[12:14am] Alivi: moving?
[12:16am] Alivi: x.x
[12:22am] Magnobile: what pictures?
[12:23am] Alivi: the trainer and the small pics
[12:23am] Alivi: they should move
[12:23am] Nioki: They're moving for me.
[12:23am] Magnobile: I can't see them move...
[12:23am] Alivi: ok good
[12:23am] Alivi: ...
[12:23am] Magnobile: sorry
[12:23am] Alivi: what broswer?
[12:24am] Magnobile: Chrome mobile
[12:24am] Alivi: ok
[12:24am] Alivi: I am on Chrome....
[12:24am] Alivi: maybe Chrome is stupid
[12:25am] Nioki: I'm on firefox.
[12:25am] Alivi: yea
[12:25am] Alivi: firefox is faster...
[12:25am] Alivi: and ugh
[12:25am] Alivi: WHY CANT I USE BROWSERS
[12:25am] Alivi: .-.
[12:27am] Nioki: Firefox is also very unstable for me, as of late.
[12:27am] Nioki: Which may be because I tend to open hundreds of tabs.
[12:27am] Alivi: lolol
[12:27am] Alivi: well i want the pics to move
[12:27am] Alivi: but they dont on chrome...
[12:31am] Nioki: Are you having the same problem on other sites?
[12:31am] • Magnobile returns to laying down the romance on Alivi
[12:31am] Alivi: sometimes
[12:32am] Nioki: ...Oh, hey, according to the board, it's your birthday.
[12:34am] Alivi: it is
[12:34am] Alivi: lol
[12:35am] Nioki: HAPPY BIRTHDAY WOO
[12:35am] • Nioki sends Alivi an internet cake.
[12:35am] Alivi: thanks
[12:35am] Magnobile: HAPPY BIRTHDAY
[12:35am] • Magnobile glomp Alivi
[12:35am] Alivi: lol
[12:35am] Alivi: :D
[12:35am] • Magnobile gives birthday smooches
[12:36am] Alivi: i have to say I felt a bit awkward earlier
[12:36am] Alivi: when Gwen once again broke the whole i need space thing to with me a happy birthday *and merely said Happy Birthday when like usually people persoanlize it….but w/e*
[12:36am] Alivi: Cause on one side
[12:36am] Alivi: i get it
[12:36am] Alivi: on the other i am like what do?
[12:36am] Alivi: so I thanked him
[12:36am] Alivi: XD
[12:39am] Magnobile: hehee
[12:39am] Magnobile: I mean... At least he's trying to be nice to you?
[12:39am] Magnobile: :D
[12:39am] Nioki: Aw. Awkward, but, yeah.
[12:40am] Magnobile: He probablg didn't personalizie it because of the whole "I need space" thing
[12:40am] Magnobile: anything more he was probably worried would have felt like too much?
[12:41am] Alivi: yea.
[12:42am] Alivi: I mean like yea he is trying but I dont like getting accused. and Having it happen rapid fire 3 times.
[12:45am] Magnobile: I mean... you told me you understood why he was upset
[12:45am] Magnobile: he may not have presented it in a very calmor reapectful way
[12:46am] Magnobile: So...
[12:46am] Magnobile: I... I jope you don't totally blame what happened on him, I guess?
[12:46am] Magnobile: I hope he works on his anger issues, though
[12:46am] Alivi: He went over the line.
[12:46am] Alivi: By humiliating me and forcing me to resign
[12:46am] Alivi: and then humiliating me again
[12:46am] Alivi: he has ruined my reputation
[12:47am] Alivi: and he doesnt admit that
[12:47am] Magnobile: what?
[12:47am] Alivi: he just says "Oh it was low of me, forgive me now."
[12:47am] Alivi: kinda thing. It isnt that simple.
[12:47am] Alivi: My trust was broken
[12:47am] Alivi: And as such it will take me a while to get back into the swing of things.
[12:47am] • Magnobile sighs
[12:48am] Magnobile: Alivi, Gwen has humiliated and accused me before, I know it doesn't feel good
[12:48am] Magnobile: just... I want you to know that
[12:49am] Alivi: it isnt that simple though...
[12:49am] Alivi: He hasnt done it once.
[12:49am] Alivi: But three times
[12:49am] Alivi: and multiple times even before hand.
[12:50am] Alivi: Just counting since Ive returned from my early retirement as a GM (which btw he blamed me for my stress breakdown and refused to acknowledge how unsupported I was as a GM before)
[12:50am] Alivi: The moment he attacked me and countered me in front of the players he ruined my credibility as a GM
[12:50am] Alivi: And I knew people wouldn listen to me.
[12:50am] Alivi: And they didnt.
[12:51am] Alivi: And then I was the one to blame for it.
[12:51am] Alivi: Then he did it in the GM chat. And all the crap there
[12:51am] Magnobile: He's... sort of the master of canon, right? And head GM?
[12:51am] Alivi: If I went in
[12:51am] Alivi: and removed every article i made
[12:51am] Alivi: The whole BBB2 Site
[12:51am] Alivi: would be down
[12:51am] • Magnobile sighs
[12:52am] Alivi: He is the master of canon, but I worked a lot with him on it.
[12:52am] Magnobile: right
[12:52am] Alivi: And a lot of it is my writing.
[12:52am] Alivi: While he is head GM, all GMs need to work together and a Head GM should not belittle their staff. No matter what.
[12:52am] Alivi: And even after I left.
[12:52am] Alivi: He attacked me again
[12:52am] Alivi: this time for something I didnt even do or know about.
[12:53am] Magnobile: x.x
[12:53am] Alivi: He knows I have anxiety issues.
[12:53am] Alivi: And RL stuff as well. He probably didnt listenwhen I said I wanted to beat my internet addiction (and I am making progress)
[12:54am] Alivi: Soooo that didnt help at all.
[12:54am] Magnobile: yay
[12:54am] Alivi: I had a lot of people tell me I need to cut him off.
[12:54am] Magnobile: oh
[12:54am] Magnobile: I mean
[12:54am] Alivi: Cause he was causing more stress (and I knew what you meant
[12:54am] Magnobile: Yay you're beating your internet addiction
[12:54am] Magnobile: right
[12:54am] Alivi: I care immensly about him. And he will be a friend. But he needs to learn to control his temper and not be such a jerk. I get he can get angry and such.
[12:55am] Alivi: But doing what he does and then apologizing and flattering me doesnt do a damn thing
[12:55am] Alivi: I have had to leave 4 characters
[12:55am] Magnobile: :(
[12:55am] Alivi: and I had to let down countless of people
[12:55am] Alivi: because he was "Too hurt" to do his job proper
[12:55am] Alivi: And refused to rejoin until after I resigned.
[12:55am] Alivi: And even then. After I agreed and resigned without argument
[12:55am] Alivi: He comes in stops me from leaving.
[12:56am] Alivi: And then berates me more
[12:56am] Magnobile: :(
[12:57am] Alivi: Even more amusing he tried using the example of Nathan's reason for being away IC excuse I made up (through researcha nd well thoughtout stuff especially in terms of how I was gonna smooth over the IC tension between the Nancy, Nthan, Charlie thing)
[12:57am] Magnobile: Also...
[12:57am] Magnobile: uhh...
[12:57am] Magnobile: One thing, of note
[12:58am] Alivi: ?
[12:59am] Magnobile: Flowers...
[12:59am] Alivi: what about her.
[12:59am] Magnobile: Insaw her shouting about how Gwen has gone crazy, in pokemon melodic
[12:59am] Alivi: oh.
[12:59am] Magnobile: I just wanted to say... from what I saw, in bsaa-ooc
[01:00am] Magnobile: Her being banned was...
[01:00am] Alivi: I saw the logs from BSAA-ooc
[01:00am] Magnobile: totally justified
[01:00am] Alivi: and honestly it was revolting
[01:00am] Magnobile: on Gwen's part
[01:00am] Magnobile: yeah...
[01:00am] Alivi: No
[01:00am] Alivi: Gwen messed up
[01:00am] Magnobile: ?
[01:00am] Alivi: both sides were bad
[01:00am] Alivi: but as a Head GM
[01:00am] Magnobile: .-.
[01:00am] Alivi: he should've taken it to PM
[01:00am] Alivi: and told Petra to stfu
[01:00am] Alivi: Petra had no place in that argument
[01:00am] Alivi: and the words she said were appalling
[01:00am] Magnobile: Flowers rold Petra to boil
[01:01am] Magnobile: and Flowers brought it up ooc
[01:01am] Alivi: and petra was being bitchy
[01:01am] Alivi: Flowers is a very open person and I warned Gwen about it.
[01:01am] Alivi: However he approched it wrong
[01:01am] Magnobile: Flowers has been a problem, I think
[01:01am] Alivi:  She has.
[01:01am] Alivi: but so have many other players
[01:01am] Alivi: and yet the GMs turn a blind eye
[01:01am] Magnobile: and she starts shit
[01:01am] Alivi: Thing is.
[01:01am] Alivi: Flowers has a lot of valid points
[01:01am] Alivi: she brings it up in wrong ways.
[01:02am] Alivi: But she does have valid points.
[01:02am] Alivi: Gwen would dismiss her in public
[01:02am] Alivi: then agree with her in private.
[01:02am] Alivi: only reason why petra wasnt banned for her shit
[01:02am] Magnobile: Harassing Gwen in PMs was not cool either
[01:02am] Alivi: I know
[01:02am] Magnobile: accusing him of sexism
[01:02am] Alivi: but Gwen harasses others in PM
[01:03am] Alivi: and in public
[01:03am] Alivi: and in text
[01:03am] Magnobile: yeah
[01:03am] Magnobile: x.x
[01:03am] Alivi: Flowers got mad at him
[01:03am] Alivi: for something I confided in her
[01:03am] Alivi: cause she noticed I was really upset.
[01:03am] Alivi: Cause when he said that.
[01:03am] Alivi: it made my guilt that much stronger.
[01:03am] Magnobile: I'm sorry...
[01:04am] Alivi: Gwen deined even saying it and accused me of making shit up
[01:04am] Alivi: then he redacted said oh we are both probably misremembering
[01:04am] Magnobile: ?
[01:04am] Alivi: only after he cussed me out, threaten to cut ties with me, and accused me of setting flowers after him.
[01:04am] Magnobile: in the logs flowers posted
[01:04am] Alivi: he texted me
[01:04am] Magnobile: he said he had been uncomfortable
[01:04am] Alivi: while I was at work.
[01:04am] Magnobile: and not known what to say
[01:05am] Magnobile: .-.
[01:05am] Alivi: he didnt tell me that.
[01:05am] Alivi: And he shouldnt have asked and tried to help me if he knew that would happen.
[01:05am] Magnobile: I'm sorry
[01:05am] Alivi: He told me he was honestly disappointed i didnt report it sooner.
[01:05am] Alivi: And as a result what happened to so many of the people
[01:05am] Alivi: Is on my shoulders
[01:05am] Alivi: and it is something I will forever have to carry
[01:06am] Magnobile: D:
[01:06am] Magnobile: When did he say that
[01:06am] Alivi: in a skype call.
[01:06am] Alivi: so there are no logs
[01:06am] Alivi: and dont worry
[01:06am] Alivi: i am disappointed in myself too
[01:06am] Alivi: but hearing it from him.
[01:06am] Alivi: sucked.
[01:06am] Magnobile: in the logs... both flowers and Gwen seem to agree what he did was say "Maybe" when you asked him if you should habe reported it sooner...
[01:06am] Magnobile: D:
[01:06am] Alivi: especially cause just eariler
[01:06am] Alivi: he had yelled and harassed me in OOC
[01:06am] Alivi: in front of everyone.
[01:06am] Magnobile: Alivi... don't blame yourself for thst
[01:07am] Alivi: And then in GM chat
[01:07am] Magnobile: that*
[01:07am] Alivi: told me that he believed me and Flowers fucking hated Petra and wanted her to come to harm
[01:07am] Magnobile: Do you?
[01:07am] Alivi: which is offensive considering Petra was one of the people who was on the top of our lists to make sure she was ok
[01:07am] Magnobile: >.>
[01:07am] Alivi: AgentFlowers and I both
[01:07am] Alivi: checked on her
[01:07am] Alivi: and made sure she was alright
[01:07am] Magnobile: Ah
[01:07am] Alivi: just cause we dont Rp well together
[01:08am] Alivi: doesnt mean that we want to see someone come to harm
[01:08am] Alivi: and to assume such is degrading and offensive.
[01:08am] Magnobile: Agentflowers, O know doesn't like Petra
[01:08am] Alivi: She does however care a bit for her.
[01:08am] Alivi: She doesnt wanna see Petra come to harm at all.
[01:08am] Alivi: She just doesnt click well with her.
[01:08am] Magnobile: There was a thing, where Agentflowers put Petra on her ignore list
[01:08am] Alivi: and Honestly Petra hasnt done herself any favors
[01:08am] Alivi: Yes.
[01:08am] Alivi: Because to Flowers
[01:08am] Alivi: if you dont get along with someone
[01:09am] Magnobile: And she told Petra to go boil
[01:09am] Alivi: ignoring them is better than causing a situation
[01:09am] Alivi: even if it was wrong, agentflowers thought she was doing well
[01:09am] Alivi: And Petra was getting involved in a fight that did not involve her
[01:09am] Magnobile: And then Flowers denied being passive agressive
[01:09am] Alivi: and making nasty comments
[01:09am] Magnobile: and got passive agressive about being passive agresaive
[01:09am] Alivi: note
[01:10am] Alivi: you were the only one to bring out the possible public humilation that came to me
[01:10am] Alivi: Flowers knew I probably wouldnt mind too much
[01:10am] • Magnobile sighs
[01:10am] Alivi: And Gwen thought the same
[01:10am] Alivi: however...
[01:10am] Alivi: Petracore used it to furthur attack flowers.
[01:10am] Alivi: again in a fight that did not involve her
[01:10am] Alivi: I am not saying Flowers is perfect and didnt deserve to get banned I knew she would sooner or later
[01:11am] Alivi: but Petracore does a lot of shit
[01:11am] Alivi: and she gets away with a lot of shit.
[01:11am] Magnobile: yeah...
[01:11am] Alivi: and it is unfair.
[01:11am] Magnobile: Basically...
[01:11am] Alivi: to players.
[01:11am] Alivi: and everyone.
[01:11am] Magnobile: in my mind... Petra, yeah
[01:11am] Magnobile: Petra does shit
[01:12am] Magnobile: but, I tend to look ip to her... me and her talk, a lot
[01:12am] Magnobile: whenever something happens, and she pulls shit....
[01:12am] Magnobile: pretty much, almost immediately, she talks to me
[01:12am] Magnobile: and,,, we talk about it...
[01:12am] Alivi: yea.
[01:12am] Magnobile: She can tell when she's been out of line
[01:12am] Alivi: Thing is if she recgonizes it tho, she shouldnt be doing it.
[01:13am] Alivi: She throws fits OOC and IC.
[01:13am] Magnobile: when she has hurt people, or aggrivated people
[01:13am] Alivi: She gets involved in things that dont involve her
[01:13am] Magnobile: and she apologizes
[01:13am] Alivi: not always
[01:13am] Alivi: and sometimes she apologizes and does it again
[01:13am] Magnobile: Mostmof the time
[01:13am] Magnobile: she apologizes
[01:13am] Alivi: so if I pulled shit
[01:13am] Magnobile: and I think she's getting better
[01:13am] Magnobile: if slowly
[01:13am] Alivi: and apologized
[01:13am] Alivi: its all good.
[01:14am] Alivi: even if she is, i dont like how everyone was so quick to attack another player
[01:14am] Alivi: when Petra was just as at fault.
[01:14am] Alivi: AgentFlowers had every right to be upset at Gwen about the teacher things
[01:14am] Alivi: Nancy has several classes and can already level up.
[01:15am] Alivi: And rubbed it in Flowers face
[01:15am] Alivi: and threw a mini-fit when Flowers wanted a lesson
[01:15am] Alivi: cause she wanted a lesson
[01:15am] Alivi: even when Flowers didnt know at the time.
[01:15am] Alivi: Flowers is a very vocal person and she has a particular way.
[01:15am] Magnobile: okay...
[01:16am] Alivi: So for Petra while saying those things seemed harmless. To Flowers it wasnt like that. This is cause they have a different communication style.
[01:16am] Alivi: So another example
[01:16am] Alivi: If Petra says
[01:16am] Alivi: Alex has no IC reason to be depressed.
[01:16am] Alivi: To her it is starting an OOC convo about IC, but to Flowers it is an attack on her character and playing style
[01:17am] Alivi: to make it less like that and more like a convo starter, I dont understand why Alex is depressed IC, or Why is Alex depressed IC wouldve been better.
[01:17am] Alivi: Just like to flowers ignoring someone is a good way to avoid conflict. To someone else like Petra facing it is better. And Flowers needs to meet her in the middle just as much
[01:18am] Alivi: Communication and RP go both ways.
[01:19am] Magnobile: Petra is... very awkward. And sometimes loses her good judgement, she doesn't always have good communications skills
[01:19am] Alivi: yes.
[01:19am] Alivi: And Flowers is Autistic.
[01:19am] Magnobile: yeah... she's not perfect, by a long shot
[01:19am] Alivi: So flowers has a veryyy particular way of doing things
[01:19am] Magnobile: So is Petra?
[01:19am] Alivi: im just saying
[01:19am] Alivi: Petra cannot use that and not try and meet someone in the middle.
[01:20am] Alivi: just like Flowers cant and cannot do the same
[01:20am] Magnobile:  right
[01:20am] Magnobile: I do think... that regret, and apology does have its place in this
[01:20am] Alivi: I wish instead of the GMs taking sides. (which happened horribly) or trying to force them both to get along when both were happier to ignore eachother.
[01:21am] Alivi: that they had instead focused on this and gone forward with my suggestions of us doing a talk on communication styles cause it has happened in other players as well.
[01:22am] Magnobile: right
[01:22am] Alivi: Ah well.
[01:22am] Alivi: No used crying over spilt milk.
[01:22am] Alivi: I can only hope that the playerbase in BSAA are happy and content with how things are being managed and run
[01:22am] Magnobile: Flowers... She bothers me a lot, though
[01:22am] • Alivi shrugs
[01:23am] Alivi: you are going to encounter people you dont like or get bothered by
[01:23am] Alivi: Flowers bothers me too at times.
[01:23am] Alivi: But at the same time she is a good person. Brash and sometimes we clash
[01:23am] Alivi: but you pick your battles.
[01:23am] Nioki: Compare to the other RPs I've been in, bsaa has been... remarkably volatile.
[01:23am] Alivi: let things go, pick things up. Tell her you are putting your foot down and she temper tantrums then comes back and realizes she was wrong.
[01:24am] Alivi: BSAA is heavily volatile.
[01:24am] Alivi: And I am relaxed so much more having left it.
[01:24am] Alivi: There are issues int eh Playerbase
[01:24am] Alivi: Management doesnt listen to the players
[01:24am] Alivi: Management doesnt like the players
[01:24am] Nioki: I don't know how to deal with it, honestly. I tend to like almost everyone.
[01:24am] Alivi: Players dont always listen to the management.
[01:24am] Alivi: Management really doesnt manage
[01:25am] Alivi: IC and OOC gets confused a lot.
[01:25am] Magnobile: I like most people in bsaa
[01:25am] Alivi: its just a mess
[01:25am] Alivi: and you can like the people
[01:25am] Alivi: but sometimes things may not work.
[01:25am] Magnobile: except for a few
[01:25am] Alivi: And notice I menetioned management quite a few times
[01:25am] Alivi: I was the whistleblower on the GM team
[01:25am] Magnobile: right
[01:25am] Alivi: I would speak up. And challenge the others.
[01:25am] Alivi: And They got rid of me
[01:25am] Alivi: cause they didnt like it.
[01:25am] Magnobile: :/
[01:26am] Alivi: They didnt like how I got upset at people who complained about their one job that players depended them on doing
[01:26am] Alivi: they didnt like how I challenged them saying HEY we need to communicate or HEY if you are going to allow this special thing
[01:26am] Alivi: how about a special thing for all the characters/players who werent present at the time
[01:26am] Alivi: Hey do you realize how said special thing will change the plot/become re-occuring
[01:26am] Alivi: Hey…who approved this???
[01:27am] Alivi: Instead I was targeted out as a dissenter who didnt trust the management to do their jobs (cause lol surprise I dont)
[01:27am] Alivi: cause honestly I didnt beileve they did do their jobs
[01:28am] Alivi: however as long as the playerbase enjoys it.
[01:28am] Alivi: Then it will probably keep running
[01:28am] Alivi: cause even tho the management hates it. They will keep running it.
[01:28am] Alivi: And it already really isnt managed so many players are taking things into their own hands.
[01:29am] Nioki: High levels of separation between GMs and the playerbase tend to worry me. When it becomes a job, it becomes less fun, at least for me - it's work. I like it when I can get lots of players running things, and GMs playing things.
[01:30am] Nioki: ...I need to finish up my own RP already. I miss GMing.
[01:30am] Alivi: lol
[01:30am] Alivi: Same Nioki
[01:30am] Alivi: And yes
[01:30am] Alivi: I agree
[01:31am] Alivi: I think more interaction between players and GMs are needed.
[01:31am] Alivi: always
[01:31am] Magnobile: yeah...
[01:31am] Alivi: And it shouldnt be a job you should wanna do it.
[01:31am] Alivi: And be excited!
[01:31am] Alivi: I would get so excited
[01:31am] Nioki: Yeah.
[01:31am] Alivi: Like hey….guess what i have planned for s o and so!
[01:31am] Alivi: etc.
[01:31am] Alivi: And this doesnt leave the chat but
[01:32am] Nioki: Some of the best RP I've had was in one where we didn't even have a separation.
[01:32am] Nioki: Everyone was a GM/player.
[01:32am] Alivi: Scantron is kinda out of the loop, he does some stuff…and interacts but as a GM causes issues by approving things that shouldnt have been approved or getting involvved in messy things
[01:33am] Alivi: Tom is also out of the loop and is so busy he gets frazzled he doesnt know how to manage well and while creative he cannot manage a big group on a run especially of eager players. And he dislikes the one job he was assigned.
[01:33am] Magnobile: right...
[01:33am] Magnobile: yeah... These are things I've figures out over time
[01:33am] Alivi: Tox is VERY much out of the loop and seems to use BSAA as a look how great Mike is thing and constantly shoves Mike into scenes, then ignores ones he needs to do. He does what he wants which is a good and bad thing and refuses to do runs caus ehe isnt confident enough which is fine, but he needs to then put his gming into elsewhere not just Rping his character.
[01:33am] Magnobile: <.<
[01:34am] Alivi: Dex is alright-ish. He doesnt do too much but he is a good stabalizer on the GM staff and has more experience than most of the staff
[01:34am] Nioki: I've been around Tom for... yeesh. Years. He's gotten a lot better. He's busy now, yeah, but he used to make the most /boring characters ever augh./ Please don't tell him I said that.
[01:35am] Alivi: Yea.
[01:35am] Alivi: No its ok XD
[01:35am] Alivi: and yea he has gotten better but he isnt a good GM right now
[01:35am] Magnobile: Tom is also an inexperienced GM, I think
[01:35am] Alivi: he may be a better player
[01:35am] Alivi: but GM isnt just about runs and playing NPCs
[01:35am] Alivi: it is about managing things too.
[01:35am] Magnobile: he's an experienced player, which translates over a bit
[01:35am] Alivi: Yea. But when it comes to lets say the XP logs?
[01:36am] Alivi: or his characters needing to arrange something
[01:36am] Alivi: or him approving things
[01:36am] Alivi: or managing a run or managing IC and OOC conflicts
[01:36am] Magnobile: Zoe is kind of...
[01:36am] Alivi: if you want I can give an indepth analysis of me and gwen too lol
[01:36am] Alivi: and yea...
[01:36am] Alivi: Zoe isnt counslor material
[01:36am] Alivi: and he says it is cause he doesnt know how one acts.
[01:36am] Magnobile: Zoe is a problem for everyone, probably Tom himself, most of all
[01:37am] Nioki: Zoe's... old. She was one of the boring characters from years ago.
[01:37am] Alivi: But then look it up.
[01:37am] Nioki: He needs to just stop playing her, I think.
[01:37am] Magnobile: I thought Zoe was okay, as a character
[01:37am] Alivi: He probably has an attachment to her. And I like Zoe...
[01:37am] Alivi: I like zoe in BBB
[01:37am] Magnobile: but
[01:37am] Magnobile: as a counselor
[01:37am] Alivi: BSAA she seems out of place as her role.
[01:37am] Magnobile: ...
[01:37am] Alivi: Yes.
[01:37am] Magnobile: She needs ro get fired
[01:37am] Alivi: lol
[01:37am] Alivi: her reaction to Dimitri was horrific
[01:37am] Magnobile: ...
[01:37am] Alivi: and for Tom he got upset.
[01:37am] Magnobile: man
[01:38am] Alivi: He said people didnt understand how har dit is
[01:38am] Magnobile: I can just imagine that meeting
[01:38am] Alivi: and he didnt know
[01:38am] Magnobile: Vice Principal: "Zoe, you,re fired."
[01:38am] Alivi: Gwen attacked me OOC about it (WHy is Dimitri depressed he has no reason, he has the Director.)
[01:38am] Magnobile: Zoe: "Thank gods."
[01:38am] Alivi: yea cause the Director totally talks to Dimitri all the time...
[01:38am] Alivi: like...what?
[01:38am] Nioki: I can see Zoe as an agent, but, yeah. Not a counselor.
[01:39am] Magnobile: Dimitri...
[01:39am] Magnobile: I don,t get the comment about the director, but
[01:39am] Magnobile: I also don,t get Dimitri thinking everyone hates him
[01:39am] Nioki: Huh. That... I have no idea how to make sense of that one.
[01:39am] Alivi: Well
[01:39am] Nioki: The director comment.
[01:39am] Alivi: Remember upon Dimitri arriving to the school
[01:40am] Alivi: he was promptly attacked, labelled as a bad person even tho no one tried to understand
[01:40am] Magnobile: attacked?
[01:40am] Alivi: And all he did was sit elsewhere. Yea it was offensive but the backlash and almost physical attacks is easily scary.
[01:40am] Magnobile: Right
[01:40am] Alivi: Then you have moonshine's temper tantrum and again him not understanding. He feels not at ease.
[01:40am] Magnobile: Dimitri...
[01:41am] Alivi: He recgonizes he doesnt fit in and doesnt know how to go about it.
[01:41am] Magnobile: hrm
[01:41am] Alivi: He is in a different time period everyone he knows and loves is dead.
[01:41am] Magnobile: well...
[01:41am] Alivi: And he knowsit.
[01:41am] Alivi: It is a very very huge shock.
[01:41am] Magnobile: honestly? It could have been the same reason a ton of characters dislike Null
[01:41am] Alivi: And so it is easy for him to feel alone, or to feel that he shouldnt be alive, that he shouldnt have lived.
[01:41am] Alivi: Characters react in different ways
[01:42am] Magnobile: Basically...
[01:42am] Magnobile: well
[01:42am] Nioki: I think the best way to resolve a situation like that is to find a way for other characters to figure out the reasons for his actions.
[01:42am] Alivi: To Dimitri he reacted in the sense of well, maybe I shouldve died with my family.
[01:42am] Alivi: Yes.
[01:42am] Magnobile: I have to ask, Why was Dimitri so secretive about his past?
[01:42am] Alivi: he came from the revolution.
[01:42am] Alivi: His family was mud to the revolutionaries.
[01:42am] Alivi: and they won.
[01:42am] Alivi: he is from a wellknown family and honeslty how can you easily say
[01:43am] Alivi: Oh my entire family was killed with the tsar by the revolutionaries.
[01:43am] Alivi: It is easier for him to say- Im pretty old....
[01:43am] Alivi: or tell about how old he is
[01:43am] Magnobile: Ah
[01:43am] Alivi: irl we dont go up to strangers and tell them all bout our lives
[01:43am] Alivi: and dimitri isnt gonna do that.
[01:44am] Magnobile: But like
[01:44am] Nioki: There's often things a character won't or can't discuss. I usually try to find ways for them to either accidentally reveal things or for the information to come from a different source.
[01:44am] Magnobile: Charlie tried to be Dimitri's friend, most of the time
[01:44am] Alivi: yea and slowly and surely Dimitri was opening up to him
[01:44am] Magnobile: he was offended by Dimitri pretty badly a few times
[01:45am] Alivi: and Dimitri was intimidated by that.
[01:45am] Alivi: XD
[01:45am] Magnobile: but he tried to be understanding
[01:45am] Magnobile: xD
[01:45am] Alivi: it takes a while for trust to be born
[01:45am] Alivi: I try to playmy characters realisitcally
[01:45am] Magnobile: yeah, but like...
[01:45am] Magnobile: hmm... how do I put this
[01:46am] Magnobile: when you get the feeling that somebody is hiding something from you.
[01:46am] Alivi: i know
[01:46am] Alivi: but at the same time
[01:46am] Magnobile: like, they don't want you to know something
[01:46am] Alivi: dimitri cant just tell everything
[01:46am] Magnobile: they don,t trust you
[01:46am] Magnobile: and it's a big part of their life
[01:46am] Magnobile: like
[01:46am] Alivi: sometimes you have to understand that they dont know eachother well enough for it.
[01:46am] Magnobile: just, what time period they,re from
[01:46am] Alivi: Charlie wasnt as close as Alex was
[01:46am] Magnobile: yeah...
[01:47am] Magnobile: true
[01:47am] Alivi: I am sure eventually he wouldve found out.
[01:47am] Alivi: but it still takes a bit.
[01:47am] Nioki: Jacques tried to be friendly and understanding with Dimitri, but they only met so many times. And Jacques tends to hide things himself.
[01:47am] Alivi: yea
[01:47am] Alivi: Dimitri liked Jacques in those nteractions but they were rare
[01:47am] Magnobile: but... people tend to become warry about others when they hide things that might be important to understanding them
[01:47am] Alivi: yes.
[01:47am] Magnobile: a lot of people really distrust Null
[01:47am] Alivi: and so a cycle grows and continues.
[01:47am] Alivi: and it is good IC stuff
[01:48am] Magnobile: because he lies about literally everything about his life
[01:48am] Alivi: but it is important that you realize sometimes people lie
[01:48am] Alivi: sometimes people hide things
[01:48am] Magnobile: mhm
[01:48am] Alivi: cause they need to
[01:48am] Alivi: if your father was a serial killer, who raped and murdered countless women
[01:48am] Alivi: would you tell that to people all the time?
[01:48am] Alivi: if they asked you where he was.
[01:48am] Alivi: would you say Jail for _____
[01:48am] Alivi: or he is dead.
[01:48am] Magnobile: not all the time.
[01:49am] Alivi: but what about to a person you barely know
[01:49am] Magnobile: right
[01:49am] Alivi: or know a bit but arent comfortable to fully come out with this.
[01:49am] Alivi: it can be a huge step.
[01:49am] Alivi: you are afraid of how they will react.
[01:49am] Alivi: will they leave you???
[01:49am] Alivi: You dont want that.
[01:49am] Alivi: Will they be afraid, or angry?
[01:49am] Alivi: Will they accept it?
[01:49am] Alivi: Sometimes the fear of the negative keeps us from trying.
[01:50am] Magnobile: Charlie tries not to be distrustful of people who lie to him blatantly
[01:50am] Magnobile: xD
[01:50am] Alivi: and that is him lol
[01:50am] Alivi: some people are distrustful of people who play pranks
[01:50am] Magnobile: "He's from Saint Petersburgh, and never seen a computer."
[01:50am] Magnobile: "Uh huh."
[01:50am] Magnobile: "Cool story."
[01:50am] Magnobile: yup xD
[01:50am] Alivi: yea.
[01:50am] Alivi: overall i miss them
[01:51am] Alivi: my characters
[01:51am] Magnobile: "Something is going on here, but I'm sure I'll learn it eventually."
[01:51am] Alivi: i know flowers misses Alex so she is excited to play Pokemon
[01:51am] Magnobile: :(
[01:51am] Magnobile: yeah
[01:51am] Nioki: Aww.
[01:51am] Alivi: but the stress the RP and management brought
[01:51am] Alivi: it frankly isnt worth it.
[01:51am] Alivi: XD
[01:51am] Magnobile: xD
[01:51am] Alivi: cause the characters are always with me
[01:51am] Alivi: i can always have them near me
[01:51am] Alivi: they can always grow.
[01:52am] Alivi: Hell in Pokemon Dimitri would be like Bill
[01:52am] Alivi: Or a Pokemon researcher.
[01:52am] Magnobile: ...I really should tie all the weird RPs in my channel into a cohesive multiverse
[01:52am] Magnobile: that would be funny
[01:52am] Alivi: Miki would be a coordinator specializing in cute/transforming pokemon. she'd have a cleffa and a ditto
[01:52am] Nioki: Jacques would be a breeder/researcher
[01:53am] Nioki: With ghost and dark type.
[01:53am] Alivi: Raine is a Pokemon Ranger in charge of a station as Head Ranger and an Ice Trainer
[01:53am] Magnobile: ..A character od mine named Sam would probably have a cleffable, and a bunch of steel type pokemon
[01:53am] Magnobile: and probably be a ranger
[01:53am] Magnobile: xD
[01:53am] Alivi: Blake is an Advanced Pokemon Trainer who will probably get a gym (or maybe elite four) and uses Electric/Fire types
[01:54am] Magnobile: Though... The Cleffable would not really have much of an explanation IC
[01:54am] Magnobile: it would make perfect sense for her OOC
[01:54am] Alivi: (her first pokemon)
[01:54am] Magnobile: xD
[01:54am] Alivi: (gift from a family member)
[01:54am] Alivi: (childhood friend)
[01:54am] Alivi: (softspot for Cleffa/Clefairy/Ceffable)
[01:54am] Magnobile: The real explanation is, in the game I'd be importing her from
[01:55am] Magnobile: she was born and raised on the Moon
[01:55am] Magnobile: :P
[01:55am] Alivi: lol ok she lived in Cresent Town and liked the moon saves.
[01:55am] Nioki: Jacques would have, like, Mightyena, Shuppet, Houndoom...
[01:55am] Alivi: Met a Clefairy and helped it.
[01:55am] Magnobile: And then came to Earth and settled it
[01:55am] Magnobile: xD
[01:55am] Magnobile: right
[01:55am] Alivi: lol
[01:55am] Magnobile: Lol
[01:55am] Magnobile: in the universe she was from...
[01:56am] Magnobile: she was born and raised on the moon
[01:56am] Magnobile: but, two hundred years ago Earth civilization had been destroyed by a cstaclysmic event
[01:56am] Alivi: but yea
[01:56am] Magnobile: She was part of a recovery mission
[01:57am] Magnobile: Head materials scientist in the advanced team sent to set up the first colony, of what they hoped would be the rebirth of human civilization on Earth
[01:57am] Magnobile: xD
[01:57am] Magnobile: I loved her backstory
[01:58am] Magnobile: she herself was kind of a bitch, though.
[01:58am] Alivi: mmm
[01:58am] Alivi: im excited tho...
[01:58am] Alivi:  i think like....
[01:58am] Nioki: I kinda made up a pokemon RP character a long time ago, for fun while I was playing. A wanderer with a single Absol, who traveled from place to place to warn people of disasters.
[01:58am] Magnobile: She was also a vegetarian pacifist
[01:58am] Magnobile: xD
[01:58am] Alivi: lol cool Nioki
[01:58am] Alivi: <3
[01:58am] Alivi: I just cannot wait for melodic to be up and running
[01:58am] Alivi: i look forward to that day
[01:58am] Magnobile: it'll be fun
[01:59am] Magnobile: and I'll have fun playing Sam again
[01:59am] Alivi: Anyways
[01:59am] Alivi: it is late
[01:59am] Alivi: i have an appt tomorrow
[01:59am] Alivi: night and sorry for talking your ears off and ranting
[01:59am] Magnobile: Night
[01:59am] Magnobile: :D
[01:59am] Nioki: Good night.
[01:59am] Magnobile: it's k
[01:59am] Alivi: Id appreicate it if you all didnt tell Gwen just cause I know hed like...
[01:59am] Alivi: chew me out
[01:59am] • Nioki hugs.
[01:59am] Alivi: and honeslty. I dont want that.
[01:59am] Alivi: XD
[01:59am] • Alivi hug
[02:00am] Nioki: Of course.
[02:00am] Alivi: Night