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- Corv R1
- Ah Gou vs Superboy
- * Ah Gou uses magic, Superboy weak to magic
- * Superboy's speed is vague and Monochrome makes him slower
- * Ah Gou will shoot Superboy at range and his bullets work in close range by changing directions
- * Ah Gou can outlast Superboy in an extended fight through Monochrome
- * Ah Gou's base strikes are enough to stagger Supeboy into a chained barrage
- * He'll string his attacks with his other abilities
- * Monochrome works defensively to block attacks and ranged abilities
- * MFON will amp his rate of fire and can be used to block attacks
- * Match is stronger than Superboy
- Wonder Woman vs Rogue
- * Diana is faster and the better fighter
- * The Lasso can hinder Rogue and Diana's piercing would probably work
- * Diana has relevant strength and Rogue doesn't have the necessary endurance to withstand a barrage
- * Rogue isn't strong enough and Diana can block her claws
- * Diana's sword gives her a skill and range advantage
- * Diana is durable enough to fight Rogue
- Xuan vs Orion
- * Xuan is fast and skilled at dodging
- * Xuan hits hard and fast
- * Xuan can take advantage of debris to throw at Orion
- * Xuan's fire is good for both offense and defense
- * Orion's regen sucks
- * Xuan is fine taking strong hits and being able to retaliate after
- ***
- Ame R1
- Ah Gou vs Superboy
- * Superboy isn't weak to magic as Corv describes it
- * Monochrome doesn't halve reaction speed and hasn't been shown to halve something like TTK or heat vision
- * TTK counters Monochrome stopping or throwing him and its pressure
- * TTK can go through shielding
- * AG doesn't open with Monochrome and doesn't continuously maintain it
- * Superboy is faster and has better reflexes even when under Monochrome
- * Superboy has better rate of fire and TTK means he doesn't need to do a full punch to deal relevant damage
- * AG isn't durable and even halved attacks would KO him
- * Superboy is tanky and can reflect projectiles
- * AG is compared to Superboy's tractor feat, except Superboy was explicitly being drained of power there
- * Superboy is too durable for AG and can interrupt chained attacks with TTK and speed
- * Match scaling is valid
- * TTK dismantles AG's weapons
- Wonder Woman vs Rogue
- * WW's speed feat is worse than described and Rogue is slightly faster
- * Rogue's strength is consistently good and WW's given dura is pretty bad
- * The claws can destroy the sword and shield
- * Cheetah wasn't proven to be faster than WW, consistently cuts WW and has shorter claws than Rogue
- * WW's base striking isn't enough and a tackle is hard to do against a faster opponent who has claws
- * Rogue's durability is consistently good
- * Rogue has strong piercing resist and good regen
- * Rogue is skilled enough to hold her own
- * The lasso wasn't proven to be invincible and Rogue wins a grappling contest, also has mind control resist
- Xuan vs Orion
- * Orion is fast enough to land some blows on Xuan
- * Orion has fast and AOE blasts
- * Orion will utilize grappling
- * A feat Corv called comparable to Orion's striking broken Xuan's arm
- * Orion's strength and blasts are more than capable of wearing Xuan down
- * Xuan's premier strength feat required long charging
- * Xuan's kick takes too long and isn't enough to injure Orion
- * Orion has good heat resist
- ***
- Corv R1
- Ah Gou vs Superboy
- * Magic obviously affects Kon
- * Monochrome can affect light and TTK
- * AG times Monochrome, the surprise from Kon's strength being halved will open him to free hits
- * Monochrome has strong pressure and will be used strategically
- * Monochrome counters TTK
- * Kon's speed is sus
- Wonder Woman vs Rogue
- * The guns aren't MP5, probably an AR which is fast
- * Rogue needs wind up for her best hit
- * WW doesn't need wind up to deal good damage and has good aerial CQC skill
- * Cheetah is faster because she performs more attacks
- * Darkseid's lifting is strong and the Lasso is effective in combat
- * WW has stronger piercing and her gear won't be cut
- * Rogue's piercing resist is worse than argued
- * WW is a more skilled fighter
- Xuan vs Orion
- * Xuan is much faster and more skilled
- * Orion's feats rely on windup
- * Xuan has good endurance and can set broken bones
- ***
- Judgements
- Ame drops so Corv wins, but here are my thoughts on the debate, despite it being unfinished.
- Ah Gou vs Superboy
- I think Corv does a good job at showing Superboy is vulnerable to magic, but it's a moot point regardless. Corv never actually proves Ah Gou uses magic. While his powers are obviously supernatural, I don't it you can immediately assume "godly energy power" from one series is equivalent to DC magic. However, Corv does convince me that Monochrome will affect and halve the power of TTK and heat vision. But, I'm still not impressed with Ah Gou's physical stats. Even while being halved, I think Kon is still strong, fast, and durable enough to put Ah Gou down.
- Wonder Woman vs Rogue
- Both are comparably fast bricks that rely on a mixture of physical strength and piercing. I think Rogue has the better strength and durability, but Wonder Woman has the better skill and piercing. I don't really buy Corv's argument that the Lasso should be implicitly indestructible because it's never been threatened in series or that WW's gear's durability scales to their piercing power. Overall, it's a pretty close fight, but I think Wonder Woman's skill and lethal fighting style aided by her Lasso, would mean she's more likely to land a killing blow.
- Xuan vs Orion
- I think Corv does a great job at establishing Xuan's speed and how he'll utilize it. I think Xuan handily takes this fight as is due to his good strength and speed. Ame describes Orion's strength as being able to wear Xuan down, but I think this isn't effective enough considering the speed disparity. Corv shows Xuan is capable of dodging and retaliating after taking big hits, a blow from Orion wouldn't be enough to bring down Xuan's endurance.
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