Duck of Wessex Strikes Again, Part 4

Friday, February 09, 2018
(Clone of https://pastebin.com/1QNRBLDZ: IdentityDev Jade is "Kaylem Sothenic"; tagged: http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/tags/duck-of-wessex/ )
6:04 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Heya buddy, give me a shout when you're next on
6:22 AM - NeoMetric: sup
6:23 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Heya bud
6:23 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Want a meeting with you and Vanzan if possible
6:23 AM - NeoMetric: Vanzan should be on later tonight, what about?
6:23 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Future, the now etc
6:23 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Launceston is now a seperate entity.
6:23 AM - NeoMetric: Cool, for LiF as well or?
6:24 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Could be for LIF
6:24 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Which is why I need to talk to you guys
6:24 AM - IdentityDev Jade: LIF is Hyperions official game. I need to get numbers up to be a lord there. But for DF, CoE and other games I am a lord.
6:25 AM - NeoMetric: So seperate entity but still within Hyperion?
6:25 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Yeah, that will always be the case
6:25 AM - IdentityDev Jade: I am loyal to Hyperion
6:25 AM - NeoMetric: I don't recognize Hyperion anymore because of my interractions with Manus sadly. We've already been offered Lordship/shires within Hyperion from Cian, Kentalis and presumably that was Okayed by manus
6:26 AM - IdentityDev Jade: It was yes.
6:26 AM - NeoMetric: Unless Manus can prove to me he's not a cunt (And I Doubt it after years of how he talked down and still does about you)
6:26 AM - NeoMetric: And how he treated me
6:26 AM - IdentityDev Jade: I'm asking you to trust me
6:26 AM - IdentityDev Jade: I've just spoke to him.
6:26 AM - NeoMetric: He needs to convince me since it was him, not you, that stained his own image and reputation directly
6:27 AM - IdentityDev Jade: I told him my plans and he urged me to do my best to get you guys back.
6:27 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Hes a little confused why you dislike him
6:27 AM - NeoMetric: Then it shouldn't be hard for him to extend those feelings towards the people he slighted directly
6:27 AM - NeoMetric: I can easily spell out my dislike: 1) Long term die hard loyal members he blatantly spoke ill of behind their backs to try to push what he thought was the positives of a conversation
6:28 AM - NeoMetric: 2) Never recognizing (During my time there) People within his own structure for what they did, only those what he thought they did
6:29 AM - NeoMetric: 3) Refusal to recognize core issues and dismissing them for the insight of people who only had personal agenda's and personal growth in mind. (I.E. Taking azz's word over an entire guild, etc etc)
6:29 AM - NeoMetric: THose three things made me absolutly disgusted of his character
6:29 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Mind if I copy and paste this to him?
6:29 AM - NeoMetric: Sure, im never one to shy away from my untactful brutal honesty approach
6:30 AM - IdentityDev Jade: lol true.
6:30 AM - NeoMetric: As I told Cian when he asked me to stay as well, I never hated Hyperion or Wessex. Never have never wil
6:30 AM - NeoMetric: The leaders of it, that represent the guild, do not represent me because I don't like core traits of they are
6:30 AM - NeoMetric: who they are*
6:31 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Yeah I understand
6:31 AM - NeoMetric: If I can be convinced that on Manus's part it was just gross misunderstandings, i'll consider it. But azz has proven time and time again to be a lying manipulative dick
6:31 AM - NeoMetric: Manus on the other hand purposefully distanced himself, it doesn't excuse the way he spoke of you which really offended me
6:31 AM - NeoMetric: But I do get it, if its to gain tact in a conversation
6:31 AM - NeoMetric: So I am understanding of that
6:32 AM - NeoMetric: Still you don't use certain methods with die hard loyals
6:32 AM - NeoMetric: It's just distasteful
6:32 AM - IdentityDev Jade: My offer is this though. All of you join Launceston, I knight you (permission already) and you esquire Vanzan. I become a Lord in Hyperion. Moving forward, I am to become a Count in CoE asap. You have the option to be a barony in my county, or become a count within the Duchy of Wessex.
6:33 AM - NeoMetric: Do you have a count package? Last I heard you only had Baron (Governor) the same as me. Manus is getting donated Count with only good intentions and well wishing to obtain King
6:34 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Yeah, plan is for the king to make Manus a Duke asap in game, then me and Azz get made counts.
6:34 AM - NeoMetric: And I take my peership with my core group of friends very seriously. In order for me to even HUMOR getting vanzan involved will take a lot of humbling moves from Manus publicly
6:34 AM - IdentityDev Jade: King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 11:34 AM
Not sure what he's referring to.
It could have been gross misunderstandings, but that's why I needed him to communicate.
6:35 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Seems you have been missunderstood
6:35 AM - NeoMetric: On a side note, had a lot of talks with members throughout Hyperion, wont say names, but a lot of people dont want to join Hyperion again. Especially for CoE
6:35 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Like who?
6:35 AM - NeoMetric: That whole tid bit of saying wont say name, because some of them are higher ranked and I Don't want to cause strife in the game they are currently playing
6:36 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Okay
6:36 AM - NeoMetric: I can say that whole heartedly becuase it reflects how they feel currently in hyperion
6:36 AM - NeoMetric: and Mob Mentality being my specialty
6:36 AM - NeoMetric: can easily be corrected with proper HR moves
6:36 AM - NeoMetric: But Manus's reply to what I had told you (assuming copy and pasted)
6:36 AM - NeoMetric: Means he does shady shit all the time and can't recall which ones
6:37 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Yes
6:37 AM - IdentityDev Jade: lol thats what all high leadership does though. Proven in real life gouvenrments as well
6:37 AM - NeoMetric: I remember vividly his talks with vanzan shit talking you, i remember Azz telling vans "LOL I'd never listen to you, you're new!" when manus confimed for MONTHS what vanzan was pushing
6:37 AM - NeoMetric: These slights and overlookings
6:37 AM - NeoMetric: are what turned us off and away
6:38 AM - NeoMetric: You want to have people that are skilled, you make sure you humor them. I've got an elite cross-game crew I can tryhard anything with
6:38 AM - NeoMetric: And generally be successful
6:39 AM - NeoMetric: All with real life obligations and jobs but can still find the time to come together and be badasses
6:40 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Yeah. I want to move forward though, so does Manus. You guys wanted the chance to have me as your leader. Now is that chance with me being my own shire.
6:41 AM - IdentityDev Jade: In LIF I have a town for you to live in and make your home
6:41 AM - NeoMetric: Moving forward because its in your best interest, however I don't see it that way. I see it as forgetting what had happened and hoping we do too because it doesn't matter much to you anymore. There is nothing stopping you all from repeating the same mistakes and slighting me and Vanzan again.
6:42 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Me? I didn't slight anyone
6:42 AM - NeoMetric: And I try my best to make sure all my guys are looked out for, letting most of the negativity fall onto me if I can. But in this case it didn't work out that way and a lot of my guys feel scorned. And no it's not you. You're in hyperion which directly ties to Manus
6:42 AM - IdentityDev Jade: I said from the beginning that I refuse to be apart of the mob.
6:42 AM - NeoMetric: If people don't like Manus how can they join his kingdom
6:42 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Ahh ok
6:42 AM - NeoMetric: "Hey dont join me for my boss, join me for me, but listen to my boss on occasion "
6:43 AM - NeoMetric: The fact that he's above me and representign me
6:43 AM - NeoMetric: is offending, currently.
6:43 AM - IdentityDev Jade: King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 11:42 AM
Tell him there was no shady shit in this matter. I just wanted to hear directly from Lewis and invited him to give it to me straight several times and he never did.
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: NeoMetric - 12/09/2017
I did make a plan if the Workshop was made, to go destroy the VIP Target you wanted destroyed with zero complaints but it wasn't so I have to alter my plans.
SL will more than likely defend their base until the last few moments of the JH so overall it will be boring. Is my guess.
December 19, 2017
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - 12/19/2017
Mister Vanzan has headed an attempt to split the ducal garrison into his own fief. Is this something you agree with?
December 20, 2017
King Manus Dei of Hyperion - 12/20/2017
Well, if you're still around, let's talk about making a new garrison. Vanzan had a bit of a dark side, it seems.
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: Time stamps of our last conversation
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: He never reached out to me, ever
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: It was always side conversations and delegations
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: Him asking me if "Is this something you agree with" was after vanzan already left
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: and he was trying to secure his assets
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: after the indirect approach failed miserably
6:44 AM - NeoMetric: He never gave me the time of day
6:45 AM - NeoMetric: And he had the balls to try to pitch someone who fostered the name Duchy of Wessex with me in LiF:YO for so god damn long, play it all off as "Vanzan had a bit of a dark side it seems"
6:46 AM - NeoMetric: as to try to spin it to keep me on his side like im some kind of uneducated retard
6:46 AM - NeoMetric: And then to NOW say
6:46 AM - IdentityDev Jade: King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 11:46 AM
In the Curia Ducis, when he was making a scene and fighting with Azzerhoden publically, I told him to message me directly.
6:46 AM - NeoMetric: No, it wasn't. It was mentioned I should keep it out of curia and handle it properly in PM's with Azzerhoden
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: Then it was mentioned to you, then TO ME (more side chats right)
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: That Im not to get knighted
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: and that i was to lose esquireship
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: that you said fuck no to
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: Again, he forgets how he really acted
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: hoping we all forget too
6:47 AM - NeoMetric: thats what drove vanzan up a fucking wall, he had to save conversations ALWAYS to quote and pencil whip
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: because Manus and Azz were relying on us forgetting
6:48 AM - IdentityDev Jade: King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 11:48 AM
My asking him if it was something he agreed with was not an attempt to secure him as an asset - it was an attempt to find out if he knew that Vanzan was procla
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: The irony of this
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: right now
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: literally right now
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: IS HES USING YOU TO RELAY MESSAGES
6:48 AM - NeoMetric: NIGGA IM ONLINE
6:49 AM - IdentityDev Jade: King Manus Dei of Hyperion - Today at 11:48 AM
My asking him if it was something he agreed with was not an attempt to secure him as an asset - it was an attempt to find out if he knew that Vanzan was proclaiming himself leader over the group that Lewis was at that time leader of.
6:49 AM - IdentityDev Jade: lol
6:49 AM - NeoMetric: THIS IS NOT HELPING HIS POINT
6:49 AM - NeoMetric: AND HE DOESNT SEE IT????
6:50 AM - IdentityDev Jade: Would you want to talk in voice with Manus right now?
6:50 AM - NeoMetric: even after this, he still doesnt have the balls to ask me directly?
6:50 AM - NeoMetric: I dont get it
6:50 AM - NeoMetric: I wasnt even subtle with this
6:51 AM - NeoMetric: He never gave me his time of day directly, it was always side chats. The only time he reached out to me was if he was offended or if he needed something and I was literally the only one available
6:51 AM - NeoMetric: And itsn ot even about that, thats just one of the things to top it all off
6:52 AM - NeoMetric: It's a bundle package of "Go fuck yourself" - 9/10 Manus™
6:52 AM - IdentityDev Jade: lol