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  1. [22:05:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: How about this
  2. [22:06:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I want you to do something for me really fast
  3. [22:06:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Alright, what's that
  4. [22:06:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Can put spada's proposal over the map that has your proposal on it?
  5. [22:06:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I'll give it a try
  6. [22:06:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: And link me spada's proposal as well
  7. [22:11:31] [Client thread/ERROR]: Item entity 3500421 has no item?!
  8. [22:12:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: There's the old one
  9. [22:12:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: http://i.imgur.com/sexQ5l6.jpg
  10. [22:12:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Here is it overlayed
  11. [22:12:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: http://i.imgur.com/NtvOY4e.png
  12. [22:14:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Alright, I think I have a solution that will be good for both of us.
  13. [22:14:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Let's hear it
  14. [22:14:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: The area in between the proposals can be an area that neither of us can expand to, until
  15. [22:15:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: January 1st, when an unbiased 3rd party decides who is more prepared to develop there
  16. [22:15:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: So until then it's a buffer zone
  17. [22:16:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I like your proposal, I was thinking the same thing
  18. [22:16:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: But I disagree on the location of the buffer zone
  19. [22:16:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Alright, make a map of what you think it should be
  20. [22:18:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: And how will we go about choosing this unbiased party
  21. [22:19:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: We'll have to agree on the third party I guess
  22. [22:19:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I feel that will be a difficult task
  23. [22:19:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: But alright
  24. [22:22:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: While I like the principle of this proposal, the locations of your colonies make it impractical
  25. [22:22:28] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Then what do you suggest?
  26. [22:23:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I suggest you accept my earlier proposal
  27. [22:23:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: It's impossible for either of us to accept the other's proposal. A buffer zone is the only
  28. [22:23:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: feasable solution.
  29. [22:24:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Ok let's ask ourselves a question
  30. [22:25:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Why do you deserve so much land
  31. [22:25:28] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: So much massive land to expand into
  32. [22:25:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: And I don't
  33. [22:25:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: First I want you to explain what's wrong with the buffer zone.
  34. [22:26:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: There is nothing wrong with the princple of a buffer zone
  35. [22:26:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: The problem is why it is so significantly closer to me than you
  36. [22:41:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I'd like you to take one more look at the buffer zone
  37. [22:41:25] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: It's almost exactly between West Riverford and New Detroit
  38. [22:41:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Not by a longshot
  39. [22:41:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I actually measured the distance on my screen
  40. [22:43:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Oh I thought since you were measure from the west bank of your river
  41. [22:43:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I should measure from the east bank of the Sanzu
  42. [22:43:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: No
  43. [22:43:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: If you think you're boxed in, it would make sense to build flotillas, no?
  44. [22:44:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Have you ever been to Pella?
  45. [22:44:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Huh
  46. [22:54:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Ok, let's look at it this way
  47. [22:54:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: By the end of this I will be boxed in completely and you won't be in numerous other directions
  48. [22:54:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Therefore I stand by my proposal
  49. [22:55:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: If you really think you'll need that land, then you should be fine with the buffer zone.
  50. [22:55:28] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: In 3 months who knows where we'll both be
  51. [22:55:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: If you're in a position to expand there, then you will.
  52. [22:57:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: If it weren't a gamble with my only potential land expansion for the rest of eternity
  53. [22:57:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I would agree
  54. [22:57:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: But growth comes in ebbs and flows
  55. [22:57:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: You keep saying eternity like you think New Detroit will last literally forever
  56. [22:58:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I say it until the end of this server or until something happens
  57. [22:58:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Things happen all the time
  58. [22:58:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Yeah, they do
  59. [22:58:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: But I have to think of things as they are now
  60. [22:58:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: And prepare accordingly
  61. [22:59:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I don't see why you feel the need to squash me like this
  62. [23:00:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: This isn't because I'm trying to squash you
  63. [23:00:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Then why can't I have that land
  64. [23:00:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I said I'm not trying to squash you
  65. [23:01:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Then let me have that land in my proposal and that'll be the end of it
  66. [23:01:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I don't think making it a buffer zone that has a 50% chance of becoming yours is squashing
  67. [23:01:41] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: you
  68. [23:03:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: With all the other land you have North, South, and East, why do you need that
  69. [23:03:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: specific strip to the west
  70. [23:03:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: At all
  71. [23:03:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Because I happen to have developed colonies 20 blocks away from that land
  72. [23:03:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: If I didn't, this would be a non-issue
  73. [23:04:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: So your little colonies trump my entire state
  74. [23:05:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Your colonies the villages right
  75. [23:05:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: *are
  76. [23:05:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: They are
  77. [23:05:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: So your colonies are composed mostly of structures you didn't even build
  78. [23:05:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: And are as natural to the map as the trees surrounding them
  79. [23:06:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I will not have my country squashed because of some butchered up wood huts
  80. [23:06:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Many of the buildings have been refurcished, and there are legitimate amenities there
  81. [23:07:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: You have 400 blocks to expand. You aren't a nation, you're a city.
  82. [23:07:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I'm a nation.
  83. [23:07:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Try stretching out your city that far and see how it goes.
  84. [23:12:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I am sticking to my proposal
  85. [23:12:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I moved from mine to a compromise between our two proposals
  86. [23:13:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Don't try to make me out to be unreasonable.
  87. [23:13:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: The way I see it you are being unreasonable
  88. [23:13:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Maybe you don't see it but from my perspective it is
  89. [23:13:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: I'm literally trying to take the middle-ground
  90. [23:14:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: You have significantly more land than we do, you do not need the strip
  91. [23:14:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: With significantly more expansion potential
  92. [23:14:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Infinitely more if you want to get super technical
  93. [23:15:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: If I don't need it, then I will lose it on January 1st
  94. [23:15:32] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Do you really think you're going to expand up to it in 3 months?
  95. [23:15:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Yes
  96. [23:15:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Then you'll get the land, no question, on January 1st.
  97. [23:16:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: Fine
  98. [23:16:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Alright
  99. [23:16:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Glad we could get this sorted out.
  100. [23:17:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] From Screenname: I still don't understand why I'm not allowed to secure my future but WHATEVER
  101. [23:17:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] To Screenname: Woah.
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