time for some roleplay bitches, I’m actually reading half of this for the first time ngl

Athena_57
1. Gonna reiterate here that I’m nullreading everything regarding Athena and zeus because of the sibling relationship.
2. OK with the initial Hydra vote
3. I like the initial D1 activity, pre-Hydra unvote
4. I don’t see the scum intent in his original revisiting of hydra here. Tone is a little snappy, but I don’t think it’s scummy here. I don’t think scum responds like this when Hydra isn’t a likely lynch at this point of the game.
5. I see nothing wrong with the initial progression of thoughts for Bart > Marth > Zeus.
6. Null on the claim, could be anything.
7. says he's slightly scumreading Junko here, no real new thoughts about it.
8. He’s rather nonchalant about almost getting lynched.

9. I recall someone else finding the Refa target weird because Athena never mentions Refa in D1 aside from one early interaction. But I liked the later explanation.
10. this is bad. I think he’s trying to rolefish Sully here while pretending to do him a service by giving game advice? And the reasoning on the Bart wagon is ???. Like he either missed or ignored my post regarding my Bart > Bibbon vote. Take that away and it’s basically PoE on early D2 (he does it again for 13). Though I do agree with his reasoning wrt the uselessness of a zeus lynch.
11. i don't even understand what's the point of this rolespec
12. his attack on me here is fine, but with how much time Snike’s devoting to attacking Athena I think it’s weird that Athena doesn’t have much of a read on Snike. Like, wouldn’t you naturally pay more attention to people who are hardcore casing you, especially if you’re as active as Athena is?
13. You admit your 2nd best scumread (Nightmare/Mack) is significantly weaker 2 posts down because you think the role is town – so at this point in mid D2, I’m your only scumread, and there’s nothing else to go off? Feels like parking himself on an easier lynch target since there was already a case forming on me at that point.
14. I believe this is the only mention of Shinori from Athena on D2? I started writing this on N2 so I wasn’t looking for a link to Shinori but on a quick checkback I didn’t see anything. Lemme know if I missed anything.
15. eclipse defence
16. sorry i guess eclipse is null now.
17. this feels like a bus. Junk wagon is picking up steam already, now he conveniently decides to read Junk and has reasons for voting him taken from other people.
18. but then i like this post, the eclipse read evolution feels fine… then he says he’s townreading eclipse for nullreading kirsche/junko? Urghhhh. Don’t like that last part. I think if you don’t have an opinion on that wagon after so many words, you’re trying to save your scumbuddy (and then she busses junko lol)

19. because you're alphabetically first, you get my angry response to this.

I am never around for phase end because it’s at 6am, and I’ve been up until 2-3am on most nights trying to get a grip on the game (and trying to have a life outside of it). I am sure I’ve mentioned this before in-thread. This is at least the second time you’ve misrepped my reasoning for keeping my vote on Bart, even after I already gave a response here (haha it was actually in response to you also). I know I’m the easiest lynch today, but you could try to make a case after taking my responses into account?.

BBM
1. is the initial Hydra unvote bad? I don’t think so, it feels ok to me.
2. early D1 content in general looks fine
3. I think the switch around from Bibbon to Weapons here is fine, and the eventual switch back here. I don’t like this switch away, if you have a problem with their play outside of meta (and enough to vote them) then I don’t think you move off the vote? At least I wouldn’t.
4. He looks better coming out of his convo with Bibbon. Gutread.
5. Pushing Bart > Zeus, Athena feels fine, nothing sticks out, votes Bart here.
6. here he randomly mentions turbowagoning me. Gets back to this on D2

7. junk defence, super early D2
8. don’t like this response to the Nightmare claim, v waffly
9. I like his case on me and his subsequent response here, though he kinda admits he doesn’t like that it’s built on PoE here
10. 'not suspicous of Shinori'
11. lotta words for nothing on athena
12. I’m lazy and he’s dead so

It feels like I’m pointing out a lot of things I dislike and skipping the good things but on the whole he feels town. Sighs I can’t phrase this. It’s the way he’s asking people questions and I don’t think his lack of scumreads comes from not wanting to give them, but because he can’t provide them.
13. Is the Junko case he suddenly forms natural? I… guess? Don’t really know what he gained from Refa’s post, but…
14. I mean I also made a case on eclipse so yeah this is gr8 to see that we both agree. And this
15. readspost is fine
16. agree on eclipse
17. I don’t think scum reacts the way he did to the initial cooling of the Junko wagon.
18. And I think his reaction to the growing kirsche wagon is fairly townie
19. the junko swap is good

Bibbon/Kaoz
Gonna copy paste my originals here so everything is together.

1. The reluctance to divulge info. I don't see the benefit of you hiding your scumreads on Day 1 at all, you mentioning them but not revealing them gave me the impression that you were scared they would backfire and look bad on you. Which I think is very scummy.
2. Athena's initial wagon. You said you thought there was scum on the wagon and... that's it? I mean, if you say there's scum on the wagon but you don't do anything about it that sounds scummy to me. Appearing to contribute, but not actually providing any meat.
3. The tone of this was overly defensive, same as Bart's earlier post that got me to vote for him. I think easily getting frustrated on early phases is more of a scumtell because there's more pressure on you, and you seem to get very angry over nothing.
4. The waffling on the Zeus vote. You were fine with him, very much in agreement that he should be vigged, then suddenly ??? you voted him? You said you found this 'manipulative' and you phrase it here as though it's a scumplan of some sorts? (I lost my train of thought here, apologies). But, to be frank, Zeus is playing the worst I've ever seen; do you think this post is actually some kind of scum play? Because I just see someone who has no idea what's going on and doesn't care to figure it out. So either he's making some insane meta play, or it's actually just bs and you're scum who decided to double down on an easy lynch.

5. I don't understand the randomness of the jailer claim and it wasn't needed at all. And I can't come up with a good town reason for openly revealing that, just... scummy ones, like towncred.
6. The overall sentiment of this post feels very very wrong to me. Snike has been pushing this athena thing since he subbed in but she's townreading Athena; kirsche and junko have been directing posts at each other the whole game. Are any of them scummy for being persistent in their cases, and if not, why? (outside of this). I mean, you yourself are pushing this Weapons thing pretty hard... (which I do think is legit, I've got my own issues with Weapons). Agree with the BBM town sentiment but not the reasoning.
7. not sure how to read the Shinori interaction
8. apparently kaoz knows my timetable and mentality better than i do
9. references shinori, votes junko. For reference.

I didn’t like Bibbon, but scumreading other people ahead of this slot. Rolespec wise I sheep Makaze? that it’s unlikely for jailor/jailkeeper (not sure what terminology Bibbon uses) to be on the same team as a RB + mass RB.


Eclipse/Baldrick
1. Mayor claim is fine.
2. I think enough has also been said about her general attitude towards Zeus and her steadfastness in wanting him lynched here and here and by other players whom i can't remember right now
3. She keeps harping on the fact that a zeus lynch is fine because of the associative reads it'll provide. Sure, but a lynch on someone more active like Athena or Marth/Omega or Junko would give a lot more? I don't see any town reason for pushing the Zeus lynch from her POV.
4. She never addresses athena's correction of her misrep of his lynch priority (boy, that was a mouthful).
5. Is asking people to stop claiming roles something Eclipse normally does?
6. here the thought progression wrt me is super off - because she couldn't see my POV on Marth's claim, everything else I said became null? Did you find scum intent in my D1 posts or in my interpretation of Marth's claim? And she hasn't followed up on my response.
7. haven't read that thoroughly but her pushing Marth is fine.
8. hate this reaction to makaze – her problem was always with Zeus’ attitude, not him actually being scummy, and now that he’s subbed out, what reason is there to push makaze? Very OMGUS. Her animosity to Omega also doesn’t feel game-related.
9. said enough regarding my scumread on her junko vote

10. The Hydra case is intriguing. At the very least, I don’t think this comes from scum/scum because why would you draw attention to your basically universally townread teammate?

I’d be totally down to lynch Eclipse based on D2, but I like Baldrick’s content so far. Zz.

Elie/Sully
1. haha his character is rapier and elie flaked day 1 get it
2. agree that this claim is bad play but newbtown play.
3. weapons vote is fine, everything seems very towny here (and the switch later reads like someone who just caught up in the thread)
4. as is this refa and via read
5. and I like the Bibbon vote
6. like this post is ultra unhelpful and doesn’t contribute anything but I also don’t see this being a scum post
7. in response to this I used to play actively from like 2010-2013 and even now I’m only on SF for mafia. But yeah I don’t think I’ve put in a huge amount of effort in the games I’ve been in for the past 3-4 years and I always get called for inactivity so  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Waffly on eclipse btw
8. don't like the lack of scumreads
9. and then this is where I start to have bigger problems.

Prior to this, Sully has never mentioned Junko, and has developed from ‘feeling weird’ about Kirsche to voting for him. I don’t see the thought progression here, and it looks terrible in the light of the Junko flip.
10. really weak defence of eclipse
11. dislike. Now he’s thinking junko/kirsche could be town/town? And @Vi-astra if my post is lining up lynches, what about this one?

12. first D3 post. Why wouldn’t you consider the possibility of Omega subbing in and immediately bussing Junk/Rad? Also has he even mentioned Shinori prior to this? If he hasn’t this sudden opinion on Shinori looks absolutely terrible, as though he wants to look townier after Shinori’s death.
13. quick opinion change on Refa

Fable
1. I really disliked the attitude of this but that’s a playstyle difference.
2. Early townreads Athena, no further push on me after this – if you’re not scumreading me, what’s the point of this post?
3. and early townread Bibbon
4. why... do you vote the guy who just said he’s going to sleep… (nvm it’s answered later)
5. thinks Marth is town
6. The super buddy-buddy between Fable and Bibbon doesn’t sit right with me, but again I think it’s a playstyle thing.
7. this means that Zeus is your biggest scumread at this point, ya?
8. but then as far as I can see, he never mentions Zeus again aside from here and here but neither is a huge scumread.
9. I like the Nightmare case
10. bart vote, for reference

11. I like his response to the Nightmare case here.
12. I mean, it's consistent with his initial read, but posts like this ping me as wanting to look better after a ML.
13. His reaction to the joke weapons tracker claim is good.
14. Townreads Shinori because he's sheeping Eury's read?
15. scumread on junk is fine
16. Rofl this business with the QT. There’s no way both Fable and Mack are both scum and posting this in thread.
17. huh. I agree with Athena’s reasoning on Fable handwaving Scumnori, but I also don’t think scum Fable is this brazen about declaring he doesn’t want his teammate lynched.
18. Junk explanation is fine, don’t like how he hasn’t thoroughly backed up his belief on scum initiating the Bart wagon.

19. Forms a case on Walrein, wants to lynch me & Weapons/Arcanite

Fairly strong townread.

Fenrir/Alette
1. here I disagree with the content but towny overall.
2. I don’t see where the sudden agreement on a Bart lynch comes from tho.
3. and i think this vote comes very suddenly. I don’t like the timing of this swap given that Athena is still a viable lynch at this point in time.

4. The Weapons case is fine for someone still catching up and not making as informed posts.
5. Where does the BBM case suddenly come from? Would like some elaboration on this.
6. no. not even for the reads it’ll give? Anything?

7. dislike. explained earlier why i don't like self-congratulatory posts like this
8. question based on this – so why aren’t you scumreading people who defended Junko and Shinori? I see that you quoted Makaze’s readslist but that’s not… actually… your reads…

Junko
1. uh yeah grats everyone on getting Junko to flip, still don’t see the case but w/e
2. his posts are so bloody hard to read
3. gravedigger lol. Refa townread.
4. sorry why are you scumreading him now
5. i am not understanding this sudden change of opinion on kirsche. First thought is that scum Junk doesn’t suddenly say Kirsche is town, unless he wants Kirsche to live… which means it’s double scum? I haven’t read Kirsche as I’m typing this, so maybe that’ll change.

Refa looks better from this because I don’t think ScumJunk suddenly scumreads ScumRefa after saying he’s townie.

LG
1. man i gave you a chance to properly catch up and post don’t kill me 
2. votes and scumreads eclipse
3. pushing the eclipse wagon, defends junk & kirsche. I’m not sure how this looks after the Junk flip - I think Eclipse and Junk are buddies and LG doesn’t fit into that narrative at all.
4. townread kirsche, readspost

5. walrein vote

Kirsche

Marth/Omega
1. Seems to push a Zeus/Athena scumteam
2. this feels fine? Importantly it’s a push on Junk.
3. Actually yeah, going back and reading his reasoning on not voting Bart, it’s totally sound.
4. No issues with the manner by which he claimed. However, I will defend my personal view on the possibility of Marth’s role being scummy forever.
5. He never moves over to the Bart or Athena wagons, staying on Junk all the way (last post 4hrs before phase end).

6. townreads shinori
7. Omega subs.
8.

Nightmare/Mack
1. Start of his push on me. I'm fine with this post itself, but linking here for reference.
2. here he's gone from scumreading athena in 1 to a slight townread, but then he's agreeable to Weapons' scumread on athena?
3. gives himself another out here for me flipping town if/when i die
4. honestly the rest of his D1 again feels like he's giving himself a way out for when the D1 lynch goes badly.
5. enough has been said about this post
6. Missing out the macho aspect is null, imo, it's just carelessness to me.
7. lol idk man now both sides are saying the other is being uncooperative in the QT
8. this is nothing
9. super buddy buddy w junko here, also went from a weapons vote to saying that weapons doesn't bother him much?
10. if Mack really hasn't been using the QT that also doesn't reflect well on him
Feel like Nightmare's play was aimed at positioning himself better after mislynches happen, main thing for Mack is everything in 9 and 10.

Refa

Shinori

Hydra (Snike/Satsuma)

Via

Walrein

Weapons/Arcanite

Zeus/Makaze