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[con] gif vs flash + flex

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  1. Tue[06:56:50]pm <~leonid> did you have to use flash
  2. Tue[06:56:59]pm <+Jousway> ya
  3. Tue[06:57:03]pm <~leonid> no you didn't
  4. Tue[06:57:05]pm <~leonid> use gif
  5. Tue[06:57:21]pm <+Jousway> urg gif is ugly
  6. Tue[06:57:25]pm <~leonid> you are
  7. Tue[06:57:30]pm <~leonid> use gif
  8. Tue[06:59:50]pm <~leonid> jousway
  9. Tue[07:00:02]pm <~leonid> gif isn't ugly
  10. Tue[07:00:10]pm <~leonid> look at those avatars darkshark made
  11. Tue[07:00:19]pm <~leonid> they are as ugly as your 3d spinning flash
  12. Tue[07:00:58]pm <~leonid> and flash SUCKS on mac
  13. Tue[07:01:07]pm <~leonid> and makes my browser crawl
  14. Tue[07:01:29]pm <~leonid> use gif or, better yet, just use png
  15. Tue[07:01:31]pm <+Jousway> the thing is the flash file is written in flex and paper viewer so its only 264 KB which is fucking small, like I even used a small COLLADA which is nice to few 3d models in because it doesnt take a load of space/time to load, if you look at gif its an old file from AGES ago and to make the same quality as an embeded flex file it takes 100mb so screw you >:(
  16. Tue[07:01:35]pm <~leonid> tl;dr
  17. Tue[07:01:42]pm <~leonid> use gif or png
  18. Tue[07:01:55]pm <~leonid> tbh your 3d arrow doesn't really need spinning at all
  19. Tue[07:02:03]pm <~leonid> it's just.... an arrow
  20. Tue[07:02:13]pm <~leonid> fucknig memory waster
  21. Tue[07:02:21]pm <+Jousway> I rather have a 264 KB swf file that spins that an big as gif file, it doesnt take a load of mem dawg
  22. Tue[07:02:31]pm <+Jousway> the gif would take more mem to load
  23. Tue[07:02:33]pm <+Jousway> than to turn this
  24. Tue[07:02:45]pm <~leonid> nope
  25. Tue[07:02:55]pm <~leonid> use gif or png
  26. Tue[07:05:04]pm <+Jousway> it takes only around 10,000k to run this 3d model leonid, if your pc cant even run a 264 KB flex flash file than your pc sucks
  27. Tue[07:05:27]pm <+Jousway> I know the problems with flash leonid but this is flash based flex aka advance flash design and small
  28. Tue[07:05:49]pm <~leonid> my point is your animation is pointless
  29. Tue[07:05:59]pm <+Jousway> your argument is pointless
  30. Tue[07:05:59]pm <~leonid> make your animation simpler and make it gif
  31. Tue[07:05:59]pm <+Staiain> well don't go nuts as i siad, otherwise it's ok
  32. Tue[07:06:07]pm <~leonid> or just take a SS and post a png
  33. Tue[07:06:13]pm <+Jousway> like I said
  34. Tue[07:06:26]pm <+Jousway> if I made a gif in that quality with that amound of frames
  35. Tue[07:06:29]pm <+Jousway> it would take 100mb
  36. Tue[07:06:32]pm <+Jousway> and more mem
  37. Tue[07:06:34]pm <+Jousway> to load
  38. Tue[07:06:39]pm <~leonid> no it doesn't
  39. Tue[07:06:40]pm <+Jousway> THATS why I did it in flex
  40. Tue[07:06:43]pm <+Jousway> yeah it does
  41. Tue[07:07:02]pm <~leonid> ds' avatars are far fancier than your spinning arrow and it's only like 1mb
  42. Tue[07:07:41]pm <~leonid> also from my observation your animation only needs like 8 frames
  43. Tue[07:07:49]pm <+ralpop> ds is a professional animator though so he knows what hes doing
  44. Tue[07:07:54]pm <+Jousway> roflmao 8 frames
  45. Tue[07:08:53]pm <~leonid> http://www.subdude-site.com/WebPages_Local/RefInfo/Computer/WebDev/WebGraphics_Decopics/AniGIFs/NonLivingThings/Ani_Arrows/3Darrow_downward_rotating_256x256_ani.gif
  46. Tue[07:08:59]pm <~leonid> this gif is 31kb
  47. Tue[07:09:30]pm <~leonid> http://donderoschool.wikispaces.com/file/view/animated_arrow.gif/149524813/animated_arrow.gif
  48. Tue[07:09:31]pm <~leonid> this is 57kb
  49. Tue[07:10:35]pm <~leonid> http://www.mixedforyou.com/anigif2/Food%20-%20beverages/spinning%20brown%20bottle%20hc.gif
  50. Tue[07:10:36]pm <~leonid> this is 95kb
  51. Tue[07:10:44]pm <+Jousway> both cost me around 5,000k to run
  52. Tue[07:10:46]pm <~leonid> and i don't think your 3d arrow is any prettier than these
  53. Tue[07:11:24]pm <+Jousway> last one is 6,000k :>
  54. Tue[07:11:32]pm <+aperson> 5mb of memory just for a fucen arrow
  55. Tue[07:11:48]pm <+Jousway> <+Jousway> it takes only around 10,000k to run this 3d model
  56. Tue[07:11:50]pm <~leonid> tbh i dislike animations on a wiki
  57. Tue[07:11:55]pm <~leonid> as well
  58. Tue[07:11:58]pm <+aperson> ^
  59. Tue[07:12:03]pm <~leonid> it makes wiki look like fucking geocities
  60. Tue[07:12:09]pm <+aperson> geowikis
  61. Tue[07:12:22]pm <~leonid> just take one good frame and post it for fucks sake
  62. Tue[07:12:26]pm <~leonid> it's only a fucking arrow
  63. Tue[07:12:43]pm <+Jousway> if its only a fucking arrow why u making shuch a big deal about ir
  64. Tue[07:12:45]pm <+Jousway> it*
  65. Tue[07:12:58]pm <~leonid> because <leonid> it makes wiki look like fucking geocities
  66. Tue[07:14:59]pm <+Jousway> even tougth this technoligy that I'm using is from apr 2009 after geocities died
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