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  1. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Dec 29, 2018 @ 6:02am
  2. WARNING!!! DO NOT PLAY WITH VSR STRAT PLAYERS!!!!!
  3. I'm not just saying this to promote my mod. Retaliation, which by the way is a 1000000 times better mod. I'm saying this because these are horrible, horrible people. I made the mod for them, for strat players to play. They didn't even give it a chance. They just immediately turned it down because it was made my me, and it's cool to hate people like me there. They haven't even tried it. If they did they would know. They have abused me for years, and I only took it because I wanted to play the game, and whatever they did, they always made me out to look like the bad guy in the end. It's been hard but I have finally managed to distance myself from them because of my addiction to BZ2. Retaliation might not have a big player base but we are building it up slowly. The more people turn away from VSR the better and the game might become a better place for all in the process.
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  5. Not only this but they have scared away THOUSANDS of new players with their bad mouthing and toxicity. If you don't do something 100% perfectly, they will throw a tantrum and ban you from the game. They even went into countless of MPI Games and trolled them by killing their Recycler or rushing Enemy Recycler immediately. Why did they do this? Because they view themselves as being "superior" to MPI Players because they play Strat. I don't know if you guys remember back in 1.2 the "vet strats" and things like that but these are the same people that would say "known nicks or get out" and kick all new players from the game to get other "vets" to join the game. Yes there are some decent people in the mix but Sly, Snake, Cloaket, BB, etc will bully you and they will not step in and do anything. So in a way they are just as bad.
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  7. You thought CS:GO had a toxic community? Try VSR Strats. It's horrible. A toxic wasteland with not a kind soul in sight. There always needs to be someone to pick on, and if you join their game it might be you. Please heed my warning. I can't stress this enough and I could write 30 pages about this if I keep going.
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  9. STAY OUT OF VSR STRAT GAMES FOR YOUR OWN GOOD!!!!!!!!!!
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  12. Originally posted by Windows 2000:
  13. So pathetic how people turn on Evil when times get tough for him! I support Retaliation and Scorp 100%. Down with VSR!
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  17. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 6 @ 2:04am
  18. Interesting theory, however I notice alot new players joining VSR games.
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  20. Yes people rage quit, I myself being one of them.
  21. You're basically using the title saying "VSR PLAYERS" are the problem.
  22.  
  23. Then you go on to say no actually it's just a handful of players.
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  25. Then you claim the mod itself is the problem.
  26. Alot of polish is being put in to VSR and tey will have the NEW HADEAN race.
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  28. Unfortunately retaliation WILL NOT contain the NEW HADEAN race, as I can se what kind of person you are, I don't want to work with you if this is how you're going to attack other peoples mods and hard work, because your emotions are out of control and you can't get over your own ego...relaly this all boils down to your ego deuling with the players you mentioned, and it's just toxic at this point.
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  30. It's really sad, because all you're doing is pushing more people away with a post like this.
  31. I doubt even 50 players were pushed away in the proposed manner.
  32. How is this proven? It seems patently untrue.
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  34. VSR was made with love.
  35. Retaliation was made as revenge.
  36. You continuosly use VSR as the standard to beat, so you must secretly like the mod...
  37. Either way it's like compring apples to oranges, a fruitless endeavour, no pun intended.
  38.  
  39. There's a reason VSR has a bigger player base...
  40.  
  41. Do the math people.
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  43. Last edited by JaydenH; Jan 6 @ 2:14am
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  46. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 6 @ 2:06am
  47. this mod is RETALIATION to the vet community
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  50. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 6 @ 9:41pm
  51.  
  52. YouTube™ Video: WARNING!!! DO NOT PLAY WITH VSR STRAT PLAYERS!!!!!
  53. Views: 50
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  56. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 5:00am
  57. https://i.imgur.com/PonYJae.jpg
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  60. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 5:54am
  61. https://imgur.com/qQw9Vd9
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  64. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 5:54am
  65. Oh Scorp, you're so WEIRD.
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  68. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 6:12am
  69. Very unprofessional behavior from someone who's supposed to be a levelheaded, respected modder.
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  72. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 6:16am
  73. You know I'm not triggered by your garbage "meme" at all right? I just laugh at it. What you did to my face looks funny and I don't care, I know I'm good looking.
  74. Last edited by Evilkiss; Jan 9 @ 6:45am
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  77. Windows 2000 Jan 9 @ 6:32am
  78. So pathetic how people turn on Evil when times get tough for him! I support Retaliation and Scorp 100%. Down with VSR!
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  81. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 6:46am
  82. This is rich, you harassed me on 3 channels including my facebook.
  83. Your mod isn't going to get anywhere at this rate, it's simply a collage of other peoples hard work sadly.
  84. The screenshots I have from you make you look really bad.
  85. Triggered? Nope, I spent an hour hysterically laughing at you.
  86. You want my attention so badly, read and weep.
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  88. No go back to whatever you were doing, Don't pull "you're meant to be this type of guy card".
  89. Incase you haven't figured it out , I'm NOT exactly POLITICALLY CORRECT.. >-<
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  91. I do as I please, and you sir are scum, I have all the screenshots, and quite frankly you're really, really weird, and highly delusional, you need serious help.
  92.  
  93. You're insane.
  94. You have no real skills besides playing a damn game.
  95. That's great.
  96. I'm a god compared to you in terms of actually CREATING content in 3D and 2D.
  97. I have screenshots of you asking me to sabotage VSR months back, you're such a lowlife.
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  99. You make me sick scorp, I condemn you and your work.
  100. Please leave and never come back.
  101. You aren't welcomed by anyone besides a few select ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
  102.  
  103. Hell, can you even make a cube and import it ingame?
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  105. The fact you wanted me to sabotage VSR shows just how much you envy it, and how YOU set it as the bar to beat. Don't let me catch you using my hadean assets in your mod, because steam will REMOVE it as per my request.
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  107. Since you can't create any real OG content, you're stuck. So keep recycling other peoples work and continue your menial task of editing odf's, and call your self the king, it makes me laugh every time :)
  108. Last edited by JaydenH; Jan 9 @ 6:52am
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  111. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 7:10am
  112. You do realize that flaming is forbidden on this board right? Calling me "scum" won't help your case, Mr. "I don't have any solid arguments so I have to resort to name-calling".
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  114. Oh my you are such a good big boy aren't you? Why are you trying to talk like you know anything about what I am capable of? I will have you know that I have a beautiful singing voice, I used to be in a band, I used to have a girlfriend, I have a job, I can play every instrument, I have a great taste in music (Pink Floyd, John Coltrane, Led Zeppelin, Radiohead, Godspeed, My Bloody Valentine to name a few) and I like all genres, I'm global in CS:GO (that's the highest rank), I'm good at all FPS games, I'm also great at Strategy games, I could be a professional singer if I wanted to, I could be a professional CS:GO player if I wanted to, I'm not horrible at sports like most gamers, I'm a cool dude, I have a great sense of humour, I can make a great mod in BZCC, I'm the best dogfighter in BZCC, I'm the best player in BZCC (at least if we're playing Retaliation), I am not inexperienced with girls, I am not balding, I have a head full of perfect thick dark blonde hair and if I grew it out I would look like a beautiful girl, I also have a full beard so chicks dig me not that weak soy stache you have, I'm good at cooking, I actually do the world good by being vegan, I love nature, I love cats, I love birds, I am a generally sweet and likeable person IRL not like I act online at all, I am very feminine, I'm cute and girly, I look nice, I smell nice, I have had several guys tell me I'm very pretty, lots of people like and care about me, I have over 200 friends on Facebook that I actually know IRL and have seen in the last 3-4 years at least. I have amazing friends and I am good with people and not socially awkward like you. You probably don't even have IRL friends. All you can do is sit all day and make some stupid models in some game no one cares about, you don't even make money off of it. They are also really ugly, I might add.
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  116. Jayden, I don't hate you. I think this whole thing is just childish, and I wish we didn't have to bicker and argue like this. I'm actually not a bad guy. Yes I know I think too highly of myself and act like a jerk sometimes, but my heart is in the right place, and deep down I love all the players in this game. Just because the others tell me you should hate me, doesn't mean that you should, can't you think for yourself? You only hate me to gain approval from the others. You do realize that you, as an individual person can make the zone a better place by moving to Retaliation. Soon everyone else will follow you. At least that was my dream when I created the mod.
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  118. I will have you know that I have suffered a lot in my life, and I really don't need your crap at the moment, I'm literally at the bottom of my life, my body is sore, I'm screaming in the rain and I'm drinking every day, but I smile on the outside. If even someone like you hates me, then I don't know if I'm even good enough for this world.
  119. Last edited by Evilkiss; Jan 9 @ 8:51am
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  122. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 7:11am
  123. it is clear Windows 2000 is another scorp alternate account. Windows 2000 doesnt even own the game lmao and is Steam level 0. only pops in to bash VSR either using excessively vulgar language or excessively formal language
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  125. also jayden needs to grow his hair out
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  128. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 7:14am
  129. haha, this is an old pic scorp found fro mwhen i was legit 17 or something
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  132. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 7:17am
  133. Scorp loves comparing 17 year old boys to himself, big man ;)
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  136. Windows 2000 Jan 9 @ 7:57am
  137. I am level 5 you imbecile, you can't see it because my profile is private. I also bought the game on my other account I'm just sharing it with this one. Though I don't expect cavemen like you to know anything without jumping to conclusions.
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  139. I am not Scorp. Even though I wish I was, he's a lot cooler than the lot of you, and the fact that he's standing up to you and taking on all of you at once makes him even more cool!
  140. Last edited by Windows 2000; Jan 9 @ 7:57am
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  142. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 10:13am
  143. This whole thing started with scorp messaging me trying to make me choose his mod over VSR even though I was already working on it, he says hadeans were♥♥♥♥♥♥ but screenshots say otherwise.
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  146. Imperator RAD-X has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 6:19pm
  147. Guys. This is a game. If you lads don't want people to join in, put passwords on your MPIs, VSR's or what ever and share them with people you know. Save people the trouble, eh?
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  149. Furthermore saying out loud in the game chat "Known nicks or kick" and simply joining other games that isn't your chosen gamemode to cause practical mayhem for self-entertainment purposes is just really, *really* dumb. Practically borderline ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. We're not in 2009 anymore.
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  151. Battlezone's community hasn't got room for this let alone the Steam threads. Either play the game passworded with people you prefer, or leave it open for other people to play. Things like these can get out of hand real fast and it'll affect more than just those involved but also the average player.
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  153. Dumpster fire thread.
  154. Last edited by Imperator RAD-X; Jan 9 @ 6:20pm
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  157. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 9 @ 9:21pm
  158. This is the kind of people you are playing with in vet strats people.
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  161. YouTube™ Video:
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  171. YouTube™ Video: A New way to play MPI
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  175. Windows 2000 Jan 9 @ 9:40pm
  176. Yo that's ♥♥♥♥ed up. Sly and Snake and them are so insanely toxic! Do you really want to play with people who act like this? They literally sit all day ruining it for others and turning people into toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥s! Is this what you want the game to be?
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  178. I say ♥♥♥♥ that♥♥♥♥♥♥ Evil made Retaliation for a brighter positive future for the game, and I support that 100%. Not to mention this mod is really cool and fun and well made! VSR just pales in comparison.
  179. Last edited by Windows 2000; Jan 9 @ 11:23pm
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  182. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 12:48am
  183. Also Jayden, I don't care if my mod doesn't have Hadeans, because it's not FE. Why would another mod have Hadeans if it's not FE?
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  186. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 1:05am
  187. Because you tried brown nosing me to give you hadeans, then turn on me, when it doesnt suit you anymore.
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  190. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 1:34am
  191. You do realize this is exactly what the vet strat community is doing to you right?
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  194. JaydenH has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 1:37am
  195. Doesn't seem obvious, I'm sure you have the best intentions for me.
  196. I don't necessarily get along with everyone, but alot of my problms between players are due to my own emotions at the time.
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  199. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 3:13am
  200. windows 2000 1v1 in a stock game PM me when ready
  201. #24
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  203. DustRider has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 9:18am
  204. This thread won't realy get anywhere. If anything It's just anouther avenue for Evilkiss
  205. to vent.
  206. Last edited by DustRider; Jan 10 @ 9:18am
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  209. Ded10c has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 9:03pm
  210. Scorp. Seriously. For your own good, shut up. You are not doing yourself any favours.
  211.  
  212. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  213. I will have you know that I have a beautiful singing voice, I used to be in a band, I used to have a girlfriend, I have a job, I can play every instrument, I have a great taste in music (Pink Floyd, John Coltrane, Led Zeppelin, Radiohead, Godspeed, My Bloody Valentine to name a few) and I like all genres, I'm global in CS:GO (that's the highest rank), I'm good at all FPS games, I'm also great at Strategy games, I could be a professional singer if I wanted to, I could be a professional CS:GO player if I wanted to, I'm not horrible at sports like most gamers, I'm a cool dude, I have a great sense of humour, I can make a great mod in BZCC, I'm the best dogfighter in BZCC, I'm the best player in BZCC (at least if we're playing Retaliation), I am not inexperienced with girls, I am not balding, I have a head full of perfect thick dark blonde hair and if I grew it out I would look like a beautiful girl, I also have a full beard so chicks dig me not that weak soy stache you have, I'm good at cooking, I actually do the world good by being vegan, I love nature, I love cats, I love birds, I am a generally sweet and likeable person IRL not like I act online at all, I am very feminine, I'm cute and girly, I look nice, I smell nice, I have had several guys tell me I'm very pretty, lots of people like and care about me, I have over 200 friends on Facebook that I actually know IRL and have seen in the last 3-4 years at least. I have amazing friends and I am good with people and not socially awkward like you.
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  215. Did you also graduate top of your class in the Navy Seals?
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  218. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 10 @ 10:34pm
  219. Why is it that I, after making this thread, get labelled as being "dramatic" and "toxic" when it's literal main purpose was to avoid people who was being like this? I also made a lot of valid points, why are they just being ignored just because of a little brashness?
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  221. I get that people don't like when someone "brings drama and misconduct" but please, hear me out.
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  223. The "vets" haven't changed one bit. To this day they are still kicking and banning people from their games even vets and the community literally consist of about 15 active players, like what are they thinking? How can they expect their game to survive and thrive like this? There's a reason there's only one vet strat up at a time. More and more people are quitting the game due to being kicked/banned or just the sheer toxicity.
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  225. They cry about there never being any games up, but they fail to see that they are the ones that have brought this upon their selves, by kicking, banning, downtalking, humiliating, and scaring off potential players for ALMOST TWO DECADES all because they were "new" and their awful superiority complex. They say they love the game, but their actions show otherwise. They like to think that they are the "good guys" and might have everybody fooled, they try to convince people that everyone else is the problem. But I won't stand for it, I know their dirty little secrets and I want them to pay for their crime. For what they did to people, how they treated newcomers and literally shot themselves in the foot, all because of their huge egos. They killed the game. There's a reason nobody plays anymore. The worst part is they are still doing it to this day and have been for 15 years.
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  227. They wanted more players, but here they are still kicking new players from their games. For ridiculously petty reasons such as "he got banned because some other vet told me to". It's freaking absurd. They never learn and they won't change, even though I have tried and tried to make them. I created Retaliation to spread positivity, but being that they are drawn to negativity they won't even try it. It's a sad, sad time and the game has hit rock bottom. How is it possible that the strat community has the exact same playerbase as before BZCC came out after? I will tell you how, because they SCARED OFF NEW PLAYERS EVEN THOUGH THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T and it's a freaking disgrace. I cannot think of ONE new player that has been trained from top to toe since the remaster. They ruined their chance, the chance of this game's revival. Yet here they are being praised, alongside their mod. I know there are people out there who agree with me and know what I'm talking about.
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  229. Fret not, because if eventually everyone interested in the strat scene is to move to Retaliation, the game can potentially be saved and players can return. This requires an effort from you, the players though. I ask of you just please, PLEASE make an effort to keep this game alive.
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  232. Ded10c has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 11 @ 1:38am
  233. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  234. Why is it that I, after making this thread, get labelled as being "dramatic" and "toxic" when it's literal main purpose was to avoid people who was being like this?
  235. Because that's how you're acting.
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  237. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  238. I also made a lot of valid points, why are they just being ignored just because of a little brashness?
  239. If you did, they were lost amongst all the crap. If you have valid points, make them and let them stand alone.
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  241. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  242. To this day they are still kicking and banning people from their games even vets and the community literally consist of about 15 active players, like what are they thinking? How can they expect their game to survive and thrive like this? There's a reason there's only one vet strat up at a time. More and more people are quitting the game due to being kicked/banned or just the sheer toxicity.
  243. Every story has two sides, especially ones like this. The other side of the story is that it's just you that's routinely getting kicked and banned - because of the behaviour we've seen more than enough of in this thread - and that on the rare occasion that new players are kicked it's usually because they joined after teams are picked because the host forgot to lock the game.
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  245. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  246. but they fail to see that they are the ones that have brought this upon their selves, by kicking, banning, downtalking, humiliating, and scaring off potential players for ALMOST TWO DECADES all because they were "new" and their awful superiority complex... ... ... ...
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  248. Pretty much the entire rest of your message.
  249. When I say that "if you had any valid points, they got lost amongst the crap", this is the crap I was talking about. Calm the hell down. If you get angry you'll just make yourself look like an idiot.
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  251. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  252. Fret not, because if eventually everyone interested in the strat scene is to move to Retaliation, the game can potentially be saved and players can return. This requires an effort from you, the players though. I ask of you just please, PLEASE make an effort to keep this game alive.
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  254. Aaand here's the last bit. You're starting to look like you're creating this whole conflict for the sake of promoting Retaliation, and honestly I can see why people think that. Maybe try to separate the two. Stop promoting Retaliation as a replacement for VSR and let it stand on its own right, separate it from this conflict and comparison with other mods and let it be its own thing. A good mod will do better as a result; a bad mod would do worse. Put your money where your mouth is and prove Retaliation is as good as you say by letting it thrive as its own thing, out of the shadow of this bloody mess.
  255. Last edited by Ded10c; Jan 11 @ 1:40am
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  258. Feared_1 has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 17 @ 2:07am
  259. To be clear, VSR players are NOT kicking new players. This is a myth echoing from the 1.2 days where there were so many people playing that, in order to get a "better" player into the game, the lowest-leveled player would be kicked out. In come cases, known vet or not.
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  261. This has not been the case for years. Individual people ARE kicked/banned for bad behavior; one of them is Evilkill (Scorpion). For example, intentionally ruining games will get you kicked. On that same topic, the videos posted about ruining MPI games are approaching 10 years old. That doesn't happen anymore.
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  263. f you would like to join a VSR game to see how some of the best players in the game play, FEEL FREE to join a VSR strat. Be ready for some competitive bickering between players as it is a very competitive environment.
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  265. This thread is spam and the accusations in the original post are false. Evilkill will attempt to rebuke this post, but none of his responses or opinions change the facts. If you would like to see for yourself (and possibly become a better player in the process), feel free to join VSR games!
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  268. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 17 @ 11:56am
  269. You might not be kicking new players (actually yes you are, I have seen numerous instances of this being the case, Zombie Beta, lud, Raymond, *Sinbad* to name a few) but scaring them away is all you have been doing. I can't think of ONE new player since BZCC came out that has been taken time to be trained and to fit into the zone as a new vet, only a handful of returning 1.2 vets. How do you explain that then?
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  271. Surely with the game being ON STEAM, and being sold as a whole new game should attract a new playerbase even to the vet strat scene? How is it possible that it's still the exact same people that play as before, not 1 new age vet in sight? Where are all the new players? I will tell you where, they got scarred for life from your horrible toxic attitudes, and don't give me that "they need to be tough skinned" rubbish. How about you just change your awful attitudes so people can actually live through playing with you? You didn't give them a chance to learn without throwing a fit so they left. It's all your fault and it always was. You guys are experts at f***ing yourselves in the ***.
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  273. You even admitted "we did it in the 1.2 days but not now" well why should we trust you not to make the same mistakes over and over again? So far you guys have been spinning your wheels. Caring only about your inflated egos expecting the zone to change. What you have shown so far is that you WILL do the exact same thing and you will NOT change.
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  275. Also just because you might be better people now does not change your past actions, and deep down you are still like this, now you're just finding other ways to kill this game. Such as kicking even vet players at this point. If you got a problem with someone, unless they are actually affecting the outcome of the game with teamkilling and the like, why don't you just mute them instead of choking the game's player count? With the playerbase being as scarce as it is, you should have sufficient enough intelligence to realize this is NOT the way to make a game that is already on life support survive. You simply CANNOT afford this, like who you're playing with, or not. I'm giving you advice on how to keep the game you love alive, even though it's WAY too late at this point.
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  277. What you're talking about is not just "competitive bickering" it is sheer toxicity and it's killing the game. That of which I would expect of lonely miserable men who have been let down all their life and vent on people online in order to feel better about their pathetic life. There is no "banter" in this community, it's all fueled by rage-driven pure hatred of the world. I can tell you guys don't get out a lot, and some of you might not even have IRL friends. I feel bad for you, and I wish you could move on with your lives. But this gives you no right to be such a cancer to one of the greatest games of all time.
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  279. You like to talk about facts. Well who are they to believe? So far I have posted concrete evidence of what I'm saying is true, such as those MPI trolling videos. Where is your proof that vets are in fact not kicking new players anymore and are oh such good people now? If I'm making false claims then why are you being so defensive? I actually encourage people to play in your games, so they can experience for themselves the horrors of playing with the "vet" community.
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  281. Ded10c has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 20 @ 9:12pm
  282. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  283. Surely with the game being ON STEAM, and being sold as a whole new game should attract a new playerbase even to the vet strat scene?
  284. Believe it or not, something being on sale doesn't guarantee people will buy it. Economics just doesn't work like that.
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  286. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  287. I will tell you where, they got scarred for life from your horrible toxic attitudes, and don't give me that "they need to be tough skinned" rubbish.
  288. That's a reach. It's one unlikely explanation, and I thought of at least three other possibilities off the top of my head while writing this sentence.
  289.  
  290. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  291. You even admitted "we did it in the 1.2 days but not now" well why should we trust you not to make the same mistakes over and over again?
  292. I understand that you might be given to repeating mistakes for a decade and never learning from them, but most people don't.
  293.  
  294. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  295. Also just because you might be better people now does not change your past actions, and deep down you are still like this, now you're just finding other ways to kill this game.
  296. So redemption is impossible? We'll be sure to remind you of that next the time you tell everyone you want to redeem yourself.
  297.  
  298. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  299. Such as kicking even vet players at this point. If you got a problem with someone, unless they are actually affecting the outcome of the game with teamkilling and the like, why don't you just mute them instead of choking the game's player count?
  300. Feared_1 has literally just answered this question.
  301.  
  302.  
  303. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  304. So far I have posted concrete evidence of what I'm saying is true, such as those MPI trolling videos.
  305. In that case you misunderstood the meaning of the words "concrete" and "evidence". Those videos are concrete evidence of something that happened ten years ago - something many of us voiced our disappointment in, and something that stopped long ago. They prove nothing beyond that.
  306.  
  307. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  308. Where is your proof that vets are in fact not kicking new players anymore and are oh such good people now?
  309. Where's your proof that they are? The burden of proof is on you here, Scorp. "Put up or shut up," as they say.
  310.  
  311. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  312. If I'm making false claims then why are you being so defensive?
  313. You claim that this behaviour is scaring players away from the game. Whether that's the case or not (current evidence indicating that it's not), can't you see that telling potential players that in-game behaviour is scaring players away would prevent them from coming in for a look in the first place?
  314. #31
  315.  
  316. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 27 @ 4:36pm
  317. Just to clarify, I don't hate Jayden. I think he's a very skilled developer and have made some amazing visual upgrades to the game I love. I just think he gets influenced by the wrong people that's all, and we got into a bit of a hassle earlier but I hope we can let bygones be bygones and move on. It was just a misunderstanding and I actually respect Jayden very much for his work and generally positive attitude in the community.
  318.  
  319. I don't want Hadeans in my mod, because I don't think it makes sense for any other mod than FE to include that race. They have no relevance to the story thus it does not make sense for them to be in the game unless it's FE or there is some kind of campaign that unveils the race.
  320. #32
  321.  
  322. Ded10c has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 28 @ 9:27pm
  323. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  324. I don't want Hadeans in my mod, because I don't think it makes sense for any other mod than FE to include that race. They have no relevance to the story thus it does not make sense for them to be in the game unless it's FE or there is some kind of campaign that unveils the race.
  325.  
  326. A mod that doesn't have a story and doesn't purport to be canon-compliant could include the Hadeans, the Uler and the Borg if it really wanted to, because there's no more story for it to maintain relevance to.
  327. #33
  328.  
  329. Katherlyn has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 29 @ 12:06am
  330. Originally posted by Ded10c:
  331. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  332. I don't want Hadeans in my mod, because I don't think it makes sense for any other mod than FE to include that race. They have no relevance to the story thus it does not make sense for them to be in the game unless it's FE or there is some kind of campaign that unveils the race.
  333.  
  334. A mod that doesn't have a story and doesn't purport to be canon-compliant could include the Hadeans, the Uler and the Borg if it really wanted to, because there's no more story for it to maintain relevance to.
  335.  
  336. This. WE ARE THE BORG, STAND DOWN AND AWAIT ASSIMILATION !
  337. #34
  338.  
  339. Lord Zeoinx Jan 29 @ 2:26am
  340. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  341. You do realize that flaming is forbidden on this board right?
  342.  
  343. Ok Flaming is Bad.....
  344.  
  345. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  346. I'm not just saying this to promote my mod. Retaliation, which by the way is a 1000000 times better mod. I'm saying this because these are horrible, horrible people.
  347.  
  348. Oh hello Hypocrite
  349. #35
  350.  
  351. NemesisLeon has Battlezone: Combat Commander Jan 29 @ 9:58am
  352. We anti-toxicity mods in just about every game. Or simply groups with leadership that hunts down toxicity like the plague and is good at it. Especially for a lesser-known game like this.
  353. #36
  354.  
  355. (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★ has Battlezone: Combat Commander Feb 8 @ 8:12am
  356. What. The. ♥♥♥♥.
  357.  
  358.  
  359. Did I stumble onto....
  360. guys.....
  361. This is like a Fallout 1 or 2 random encounter.
  362.  
  363. This whole thread seems like a massive joke from the title and opening post to the silly flame war.
  364. Last edited by (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★; Feb 8 @ 3:32pm
  365. #37
  366.  
  367. Blaedicus has Battlezone: Combat Commander 7 hours ago
  368. Scorp is autist :o)
  369. #38
  370.  
  371. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander 1 hour ago
  372. You guys think I'm kidding? Try enduring playing just 1 or 2 games with them, and come back telling me I'm "overreacting" or "being too dramatic".
  373.  
  374. I really think it's sad that people come to this thread and act as if I'm the one causing a problem here, when in reality I'm not. I'm talking from experience. I'm stating FACTS. You might not like the brash way I tend to announce them but that doesn't change the truth of the matter. They are horrible and they will get under your skin one way or another, and no they have NOT matured. Take the comment of "Blaedicus" as an example. That's the way they all act and some of them are much, much worse.
  375.  
  376. Please for the love of all that is good AVOID them. I don't want anyone to go through what I have. I won't stop talking about this and you can ban and exclude me and act like I'm the problem all you want. The point still stands. Vet strat players are awful people and don't deserve new players in their games that they will just kick out later, and I will advocate this until the end of my days.
  377. #39
  378.  
  379. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander 1 hour ago
  380. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  381. I will advocate this until the end of my days.
  382. unfortunately that will come within the week
  383.  
  384. Players have gotten together, including myself, and are getting in touch with moderators to report and request you be banned from posting on the game discussion forums. They have responded and will consider our request within several days
  385. #40
  386.  
  387. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander 57 minutes ago
  388. Surely they will have to know the context before jumping to action? I don't know, you might succeed in your ganging up and ruining things for me, but that does not change anything or make my points any less valid. It actually reinforces them.
  389.  
  390. You're not gonna take my mod down. Ever. Even if you do succeed in your collective blackmail attempt I will just contact them and explain everything. I don't care about these forums, but you're not touching my mod. You shouldn't either, we had an agreement.
  391. #41
  392.  
  393. Daddyman Fuckpants has Battlezone: Combat Commander 44 minutes ago
  394. But wait, there's more: https://pastebin.com/jdPbVyUM
  395.  
  396. YouTube™ Video: Schizophrenia: My Delusions
  397. Views: 1,034
  398. In this video I discuss my most common delusions. I have delusions of grandeur, delusions of reference, delusions of persecution and delusions of thought insertion.
  399.  
  400. #42
  401.  
  402. blue banana has Battlezone: Combat Commander 33 minutes ago
  403. Originally posted by Evilkiss:
  404. Surely they will have to know the context before jumping to action? I don't know, you might succeed in your ganging up and ruining things for me, but that does not change anything or make my points any less valid. It actually reinforces them.
  405.  
  406. You're not gonna take my mod down. Ever. Even if you do succeed in your collective blackmail attempt I will just contact them and explain everything. I don't care about these forums, but you're not touching my mod. You shouldn't either, we had an agreement.
  407. they already know the context as per our explanations and their ongoing investigation. They acknowledge that people are not forced to join or leave game communities, and the vet community is no different. Any actions you and everyone else has taken within the vet community is not subject to their judgement or control. However, because your actions are on public, general purpose forums not specific to a community, your actions affect everyone, including a workshop item. The moderators have yet to determine if your actions degrade the public, and if that is the case, you will no longer be a part of any community
  408.  
  409. as far as our agreement goes, it appears you havent honoured it. Otherwise the term "VSR" would have been eliminated from your vocabulary months ago
  410.  
  411. like the old man said: believe us scorp, you would rather be dead...cause after the truth is out, no one will pledge their loyalty to such a monster
  412. #43
  413.  
  414. Evilkiss (Scorp) has Battlezone: Combat Commander 14 minutes ago
  415. We had no such agreement that you are to tell me what to say.
  416.  
  417. Well then, what about my side of the story? That is just as important as anything else is it not? Surely I wouldn't have gone through all this if it wasn't for a reason. You threatening me with these things is keeping the hate alive. So maybe you should just stop don't you think?
  418.  
  419. I'm trying to raise awareness on a very important issue that nobody talks about. I am being very abrasive in doing so, but for good reasons. This is not an issue to be taken lightly. Online bullying has been destroying lives for a long time and is to be taken seriously. You can't just tell people to "toughen up" when something they love is being corrupted by this vibration of pure negativity and hostility that comes from vet strats. What I desire is a major shift in attitude from the vet players, but that's far too late at this point. The game has been out for over a year and the spark is gone. Not even deliberating the 1.2 tumult. You are going to have the same old playerbase as you've always had, despite my efforts to help you.
  420.  
  421. It's people's own responsibility if they read my topics or not. I'm not breaking any rules. So no matter what you do you will never bring me down because I will just get right back up again.
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