1:05 PM] GreenGogoat: whats up
[1:05 PM] GreenGogoat: glad u got my message haha
[1:05 PM] Snowgoro: rn im just coding for school but I'm thinking 2 very different thoughts for teams lol
[1:06 PM] Snowgoro: Primarina is one of my favorite pokemon
[1:06 PM] Snowgoro: and a team around her would be rly cool
[1:07 PM] Snowgoro: but im thinking like "dang zoroark is cool af" and ik zoro's not the best but making a team based around that for doubles would be cool (and prolly impossible)
[1:10 PM] GreenGogoat: i can def try zoroark with the caveat that it might not be that great lol
[1:13 PM] Snowgoro: Primarina is probably the better choice
[1:14 PM] Snowgoro: I'm ngl I just pick pokemon based off of "dang thats cute/cool" lmao im pretty casual but I want to be comp
[1:14 PM] GreenGogoat: yeah primarina i think is legit usable
[1:14 PM] GreenGogoat: Primarina @ Life Orb
Ability: Liquid Voice
EVs: 32 HP / 252 SpA / 224 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Voice
- Moonblast
- Dazzling Gleam
- Protect
[1:14 PM] GreenGogoat: heres a set i like, you outspeed zeraora and dragapult in tailwind
[1:14 PM] Snowgoro: ou
[1:14 PM] GreenGogoat: or we could go a semiroom style with a minimum speed spread
[1:15 PM] Snowgoro: I'd rather not do tr if I don't have to
[1:15 PM] GreenGogoat: okie
[1:15 PM] Snowgoro: whats a good way to counter tr
[1:16 PM] Snowgoro: thats what I liked about azumarill
[1:16 PM] Snowgoro: just like belly drum and tr doesn't matter lmao
[1:16 PM] GreenGogoat: trick room is honestly not that common atm, u really only see fullroom sometimes
[1:16 PM] GreenGogoat: i think the first thing we should add is tailwind
[1:16 PM] Snowgoro: alright, I'm going to put this all together in a .txt for me to follow
[1:17 PM] Snowgoro: again thank you so much
[1:18 PM] Snowgoro: do you think rain with Primarina would still be viable and optimized?
[1:18 PM] GreenGogoat: i dont think you need rain
[1:18 PM] GreenGogoat: if u were going rain id go toed+kingdra+ludicolo and theres no real room for primarina
[1:18 PM] GreenGogoat: primarina can function fine on its own tho
[1:18 PM] Snowgoro: alright cool
[1:19 PM] Snowgoro: so who would be a good tailwind user then?
[1:19 PM] GreenGogoat: mew
[1:19 PM] GreenGogoat: might be the best mon in the tier, also sets spikes and fake out support
[1:19 PM] GreenGogoat: and fairy/psychic synergize well kinda
[1:19 PM] GreenGogoat: Mew @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Synchronize
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fake Out
- Psychic
- Spikes
- Tailwind
[1:20 PM] Snowgoro: is mew legal in ranked in ss
[1:20 PM] Snowgoro: official ranked I mean
[1:20 PM] GreenGogoat: /its legal in smogon doubles ou, are u talking about vgc (bring 6, pick 4)
[1:21 PM] GreenGogoat: ?
[1:21 PM] Snowgoro: vgc is what I wanna be legal for
[1:21 PM] GreenGogoat: oh
[1:21 PM] GreenGogoat: well idk if i can help u there :(
[1:21 PM] GreenGogoat: havent touched vgc 20, i thought we were doing dou :I
[1:21 PM] GreenGogoat: thats what u tagged ur rmt as
[1:21 PM] Snowgoro: we'll go with that then
[1:21 PM] Snowgoro: idk what im doing
[1:22 PM] GreenGogoat: okie smogon doubles is a bit different
[1:22 PM] GreenGogoat: u bring all 6 of ur pkmn and mythicals are legal, dmax is banned along w some other pkmn
[1:22 PM] Snowgoro: Why is dmax banned?
[1:22 PM] GreenGogoat: its broken, way too good and makes the meta unhealthy
[1:23 PM] Snowgoro: alright uhh is bringing a gmax pokemon good as long as it doesnt dmax
[1:24 PM] GreenGogoat: ranked doubles battles on switch is not smogon doubles
[1:24 PM] GreenGogoat: there is no smogon doubles ladder on switch
[1:24 PM] GreenGogoat: u can play it on pokemon showdown
[1:24 PM] Snowgoro: alright lol
[1:25 PM] Snowgoro: so what else should we try and do if we have primarina and mew so far
[1:28 PM] GreenGogoat: i think cat is pretty safe here
[1:29 PM] GreenGogoat: strong against the super common mew/necrozma, covers grass types, provides valuable fake out + uturn support
[1:29 PM] GreenGogoat: Incineroar @ Assault Vest
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 20 Def / 100 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 0 SpA
- Fake Out
- Flare Blitz
- Knock Off
- U-turn
[1:29 PM] Snowgoro: so who has synergy here, I guess mew and primarina?
[1:29 PM] Snowgoro: so who would be a good pair for incin
[1:30 PM] GreenGogoat: they all do
[1:30 PM] Snowgoro: alright cool cool
[1:30 PM] GreenGogoat: incinceroar can cover grass types and ghost types, primarina can over fighting types
[1:30 PM] GreenGogoat: as examples
[1:30 PM] Snowgoro: any inseparable pairs you'd recommend?
[1:31 PM] GreenGogoat: a grass type is probably solid here
[1:31 PM] GreenGogoat: rillaboom, amoonguss, tsareena
[1:32 PM] Snowgoro: tsareena is unfamiliar
[1:32 PM] GreenGogoat: its ability blocks priorty moves
[1:32 PM] GreenGogoat: and it gets rapid spin
[1:32 PM] Snowgoro: oh THAT thing lmao
[1:32 PM] Snowgoro: rapid spin would be amazing
[1:33 PM] Snowgoro: would defog be better to counter light screen/reflect?
[1:33 PM] GreenGogoat: nah those arent too common and u want to keep up ur own hazards
[1:34 PM] GreenGogoat: i actually dont have a set on me atm but i just asked my friend for one
[1:34 PM] GreenGogoat: https://pokepast.es/5f1c494ad9995f1e
[1:34 PM] GreenGogoat: this is the team so far
[1:35 PM] Snowgoro: oh wow
[1:35 PM] Snowgoro: thank you
[1:35 PM] GreenGogoat: i think we might be able to add tyranitar + excadrill here
[1:36 PM] Snowgoro: that sounds good
[1:37 PM] GreenGogoat: https://pokepast.es/65f996c66106472f
[1:38 PM] GreenGogoat: alright, does this look solid to you??
[1:38 PM] Snowgoro: very
[1:38 PM] Snowgoro: wow thank you
[1:38 PM] GreenGogoat: np
[1:38 PM] GreenGogoat: can i post a log of our messages in the thread?
[1:38 PM] GreenGogoat: just to show i actually helped u haha
[1:39 PM] Snowgoro: sure np
[1:39 PM] GreenGogoat: okay thanks
[1:39 PM] GreenGogoat: hope i helped
[1:39 PM] Snowgoro: no no thank you