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[13:04] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): in before everyone thinks Jamie's beat/abused and neglected her lol
[13:04] Roslyn (juno.mantel): lol
[13:04] Roslyn (juno.mantel): well he hasn't seen her since the wedding!
[13:04] Roslyn (juno.mantel): so she is a little surprised
[13:04] Roslyn (juno.mantel): but is very sad over her friends and brother
[13:05] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): apart from the fact OOCly I wasn't here, but ICly I thought you wanted her sick and away o.O
[13:06] Roslyn (juno.mantel): yah she was sick, but not for the past few days!
[13:06] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and i assumed they didnt see cause you didnt say he did
[13:06] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): we need to talk more before posting these things
[13:07] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I mean, I wasn't here because I was seriously contemplating giving it all up
[13:07] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): the thought's still lingering and the jury's out on that lol
[13:07] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but I again don't want the character I was building to suffer because I had second thoughts, it's not like him at all
[13:08] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): It's emoted anyway and there's no harm done. It's mostly on me because I said nothing as well.
[13:08] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i just didnt know :/
[13:08] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i assume nothing happens unless its said ooc or rpd
[13:08] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I know I get it, hence I say it's my fault for not going over it
[13:09] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i assumed they would eat together everyday, but green said not to assume anything unless you told me
[13:09] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): They would do that, at least that
[13:10] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): or rather
[13:10] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Jamie would want them to
[13:13] Roslyn (juno.mantel): okie
[13:13] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): sorry, admin chat same time - not trying to leave big silences
[13:13] Roslyn (juno.mantel): its fine!
[13:14] Roslyn (juno.mantel): I am just sad you are so unhappy in the rp
[13:14] Roslyn (juno.mantel): should be fun, its the whole point!
[13:15] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I'm not sad in the RP, I just feel Jamie being dragged somewhere he wouldn't go or painted as something he really isn't
[13:15] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and that is my fault, because of my time away
[13:17] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i think we just havent set the scene, so to speak
[13:17] Roslyn (juno.mantel): so its up in air
[13:17] Roslyn (juno.mantel): it doesnt mean roslyn hates jamie and thinks hes a bastard ...lol
[13:17] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): well, from all that we have played out so far... I don't think I've given the impression he would be like any of that
[13:18] Roslyn (juno.mantel): any of what?
[13:18] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and no, she might not - but like, emotes like that one to these people not involved read as though it is
[13:18] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): that he would be neglectful/abusive or whatever
[13:19] Roslyn (juno.mantel): abusive?
[13:19] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Idiots reading the post will be thinking these things, that Jamie's done something to her or neglected her to make her flinch at his touch
[13:19] Roslyn (juno.mantel): oh
[13:20] Roslyn (juno.mantel): lol! well if they do, then they are wrong? if it matters to you he is seen as nice and attentive you need to rp that
[13:21] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i can only go off what we have rpd! which is nothing since the wedding lol
[13:22] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and if you thought shes been sick, it isnt like he asked how she is, or anything. just saying! stuck_out_tongue I don't care ooc, jamie can be a dick or a white knight and im happy. i am just here for rp lol
[13:22] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Yeah I get that
[13:23] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but the issue is /I/ haven't been here
[13:23] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): not Jamie
[13:23] Roslyn (juno.mantel): yeah
[13:23] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): He's getting tarred because of me OOCly - and that's what I'm having a hard time with now
[13:23] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): OOC action/inaction influencing the IC
[13:25] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): like, the time put into the character - how he interacts, thinks and acts etc. is entirely different to how he seems now because of /me/
[13:25] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): if that...makes sense
[13:26] Roslyn (juno.mantel): oh yes I get it. you see jamie as being an attentive nice husband but just cause youve not been there to rp it doesnt mean he is this abusive jerk or neglecting her
[13:26] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Yeah, I'm sorry that I haven't been here to RP it - but I feel that I have now caused him to appear as something he has never been
[13:26] Roslyn (juno.mantel): he can just have been very busy
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and shes been unwell
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): also
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): no one is perfect lol
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): maybe he is nervous?
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i kind of got that impression
[13:27] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): He would be nervous, he's a young guy and has no father or older brother now for this advice
[13:27] Roslyn (juno.mantel): yeah
[13:27] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but like, he would eat with her every night - even across the long table
[13:28] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): he wouldn't marry her then just leave her in a room somewhere like an object he acquired
[13:29] Roslyn (juno.mantel): then, we need to rp stuck_out_tongue or if you can't or dont want to, then we need to work out how they live
[13:30] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I never don't want to RP, I'm just very mindful of my attentions being pulled in every which direction - it's sucky but we did touch on the fact this would happen before we ventured down the marriage path too
[13:30] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I mean, I am here to RP - we all are
[13:30] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): as married now we are part of the same team as it were, one unit - or I'd like us to be?
[13:32] Roslyn (juno.mantel): well there is a big gap between where we got to by the time of wedding and to where i think you want them to be. I think we both want the same thing, i think! i am not after someone to lead my rp and tell me what to do or anything like that. i have my stories and fun and get around being the busy gossipy lady haha
[13:33] Roslyn (juno.mantel): but I did assume we would rp a relationship. whether that is good or bad or like it is now, and just rp being strangers with no marriage at all
[13:33] Roslyn (juno.mantel): i can do that
[13:34] Roslyn (juno.mantel): ooc i like a team! but ic i cant have my char magically just overnight love a guy and be dedicated to him when so far hes just a nice but distant man shes wed to
[13:34] Roslyn (juno.mantel): if you see what im saying?
[13:34] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I do - but I also see that if it wasn't me being an idiot as a person, not Jamie - that we would have gotten to that - he wouldn't be as distant.
[13:34] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): there would have been interaction
[13:35] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): similar to how I know Cedric ICly, despite having never played with him as a character
[13:35] Roslyn (juno.mantel): well, I see that as one of those things that unfortunately ooc does influence ic. anyone who says it doesnt is a liar lol
[13:35] Roslyn (juno.mantel): but just cause it is how it is, doesnt mean it has to stay that way
[13:36] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): With Cedric I play like they're friends, they broke bread and fought together etc. They know things about each other.
[13:36] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Just because I didn't RP that doesn't mean it can't be written into the story
[13:37] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and yes, because that's how it's seen now that's exactly how it is - so we'll have to develop it from there
13:38] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and yeah I get assumed rp/making a history. but its diff to a new char being inserted into the story than one ive been playing 6 months!
[13:39] Roslyn (juno.mantel): rp sim..for rp stuck_out_tongue BUT there is a mix, that has to go on. like i assumed we'd share info ooc that one another would know with the kind of thing theyd talk about at dinner each night or something
[13:39] Roslyn (juno.mantel): anything big ideally rp
[13:39] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and in general hopefully get in rp regularly to progress our own story/relationship cause it influences so much
[13:41] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): Yes, of course - I'm entirely with that and I get it, it's not my first rodeo in that regard for this sim
[13:41] Roslyn (juno.mantel): like there is something roslyn could tell jamie
[13:41] Roslyn (juno.mantel): about the small council
[13:41] Roslyn (juno.mantel): but i dont want to write that in a nc
[13:42] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but I'm mindful I work full time all week, I play rugby some Saturdays and others I end up in work. I'm keenly aware that it's difficult for me to be here all the time - I maintain for the most part the 12+ hours required of me on the sim weekly but that 12+ hours is spread so thin between people because my character is one of those ones that people need - he's an RP tool for so many beyond his "circle"
[13:42] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and i dont know if she would even tell him, cause its betraying a friend to someone at present she doesnt have much to do with (thus far, doesnt mean i am saying it has to stay this way stuck_out_tongue)
[13:42] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and that takes a toll on a player
[13:43] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): if you get what I mean there as well?
[13:43] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I 100% want you to have the RP and I want to be able to give you the RP, which I will anytime I can
[13:44] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but like, I need you to work with me too and understand sometimes I can't? This last week was a crazy one (that I hope NEVER to re-live or replicate) - but there will be times we want/need a scene and I know I'll be stuck somewhere helping someone elses story
[13:44] Roslyn (juno.mantel): am I not working with you now? confused
[13:44] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): I guess it sucks when I'm in that position as a player, and as a consequence my character is mutating beyond my recognition is all I mean.
[13:45] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): No you are, but there's also this element of Jamie being forged into another person - or he's coming across ICly to Roslyn as another person
[13:45] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and that's eating away at me
[13:45] Roslyn (juno.mantel): and I get what you are saying. My main concern is 1. having fun. and 2. you having fun stuck_out_tongue so that is what i want out of it haha
[13:45] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): it's eating away at me because it's me who has caused it
[13:46] Roslyn (juno.mantel): so I dont want you to feel eaten away at!
[13:46] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): but like, I took the day and a half there to try and re-focus and talk myself down from Jamie being wrote off due to the RL stuff I was doing and the rest of it
[13:46] Jamie Baratheon (taurik.xaris): and getting back from it I immediately felt the impact again