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  1. KULIAH ONLINE 3
  2. Pemateri: akang blackshirt (empunya http://blackstreetnight.wordpress.com/)
  3. Materi: Perkenalan FreeBSD
  4. Waktu: 29 September 2013 | 18.00 - 20.20 WIB
  5. Tempat: #ubuntu-indonesia @ freenode
  6. ===========================================================================
  7.  
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  12. [17:52:10] <bangjali> Wew
  13. [17:53:10] <Malsasa> bangjali: tadi teman-teman ingin tahu FreeBSD
  14. [17:53:33] <bangjali> malsasa, sapa om ?
  15. [17:53:39] <Malsasa> semuanya
  16. [17:53:44] <bangjali> wew
  17. [17:53:47] <Malsasa> udah pada keluar tapi
  18. [17:53:58] <Malsasa> akang terkena DC tadi
  19. [17:54:09] <bangjali> Itu unixboy >> nicknya aja dah unix :d
  20. [17:54:16] <bangjali> wekekeke
  21. [17:54:24] <Malsasa> opcodex
  22. [17:54:59] <bangjali> unixboy = opcodex ... ?
  23. [17:55:17] <bangjali> ya kapan2 kita bahas freebsd
  24. [17:55:46] <bangjali> soal terkena dece, saya sudah pengalaman om :d
  25. [17:56:12] <Malsasa> zhee_sharp: akang mau dikasih kuliah FreeBSD?
  26. [17:56:22] <Malsasa> bangjali: saya mau woro-woro kalau gitu
  27. [17:56:23] <zhee_sharp> mau banget kang,
  28. [17:56:23] <zhee_sharp> :D
  29. [17:56:31] <bangjali> behhh :d
  30. [17:56:36] <Malsasa> bangjali: nah, silakan, Kang. Perkenalan FreeBSD dulu.
  31. [17:56:42] -*- Malsasa menyimak
  32. [17:56:54] <bangjali> behhh..sekarang om ?
  33. [17:57:33] <Malsasa> bangjali: iya, lima menit juga nggak papa, Kang
  34. [17:57:45] <Malsasa> bangjali: soalnya ingin tahu apa bedanya GNU/Linux sama FreeBSD
  35. [17:57:51] <bangjali> hahaha...
  36. [17:58:02] <bangjali> Sampai saya dece setelah ini ya om :d
  37. [17:58:10] -*- Malsasa gubrak
  38. [17:58:22] <bangjali> hahaha
  39. [17:58:32] <bangjali> baiklah
  40. [17:58:58] <bangjali> == sekilas tentang FreeBSD ===
  41. [17:59:53] <bangjali> saya mo berbagi pengalaman, kebetulan saya pc di 'rumah' juga dual boot ..
  42. [18:00:28] <bangjali> tapi absen dulu
  43. [18:00:56] -*- Malsasa ngacung!
  44. [18:00:57] <bangjali> Unixboy hananan malsasa thrvers abdiman yoga zhee_sharp pupil barnas
  45. [18:01:17] <bangjali> mohon ijin, dedengkot kanal ..om lisnux :d
  46. [18:01:49] <bangjali> kita mulai dengan sejarahnya ...
  47. [18:02:28] <bangjali> seperti kemarin udah disinggung om engkur, berbagai varian dari unix
  48. [18:02:38] <bangjali> malsasa masih ingat ...?
  49. [18:02:50] <Malsasa> bangjali: masih, masih
  50. [18:04:04] <hananan>  /me bangjali: lanjut om
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  53. [18:04:44] <blackshirt> hadeuhh..dah dece om :d
  54. [18:04:50] -*- hananan bangjali lanjut om
  55. [18:05:04] <blackshirt> bangjali dah dece om :d
  56. [18:05:21] <blackshirt> malsasa, apa mo dilanjut ? :d
  57. [18:05:26] -*- Malsasa tentu dilanjut
  58. [18:05:30] <hananan> blackshirt: om sih sukanya decw
  59. [18:05:33] <Malsasa> bangjali: saya udah woro-woro
  60. [18:05:45] <yoga> hadir
  61. [18:05:46] <blackshirt> wkwkwk...
  62. [18:06:09] <blackshirt> oke dah ..
  63. [18:06:13] -*- hananan lanjut
  64. [18:06:48] <-- bangjali (~maijendol@112.215.44.231) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  65. [18:07:04] -*- lisnux menyimak ........
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  67. [18:07:13] <abdiman> yoi absen. silakan dilanjut. nanti saya baca lognya
  68. [18:07:13] <Hatori> koneksi tidak mendukung :d
  69. [18:07:34] <Hatori> nah freebsd ini adalah free version dari bsd unix ..
  70. [18:07:36] <zhee_sharp> mau nanya nih, dece artinya apa ya ... ? :D
  71. [18:07:52] <zhee_sharp> disconnect y .. .?
  72. [18:08:06] <-- thrvers (~thrvers@unaffiliated/thrvers) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  73. [18:08:13] <Hatori> Karena waktu itu 'perselisihan' masalah 'source code' unix ...
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  77. [18:09:31] <Malsasa> Alhamdulillah
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  79. [18:09:46] <Hatori> untuk sekilas ttg freebsd, coba ke wikinya aja .. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD
  80. [18:09:47] <Milkshake> Assalamualaikum
  81. [18:09:54] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  82. [18:10:11] <dokeh> Wa'alaikumussalam
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  84. [18:10:21] <Hatori> freebsd ini sebuah OS lengkap ...
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  87. [18:10:46] <Milkshake> untuk sekilas pertanyaan juga, freebsd ini dari keluarga Linux atau beda ya?
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  90. [18:11:10] -*- hananan Hatori rupanya kembaran blackshirt
  91. [18:11:13] <Hatori> freebsd berbeda dengan linux ...
  92. [18:11:29] <Hatori> walaupun sama- sama unix-like
  93. [18:11:43] <yoga> nyimak walau gagal pahan buat bahasa pemogramannya, otak saya gak sampai ni
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  95. [18:11:54] <abdiman> beda dalam hal?
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  99. [18:12:11] <Hatori> freebsd itu lebih 'unix'nya dibanding linux
  100. [18:12:15] <fikiaprianto> mau ngikut aja dulu walau belum paham
  101. [18:12:40] <abdiman> lebih ng-unix itu seperti apa kk?
  102. [18:12:42] <Hatori> mari kita bahas sedikit perbedaannya
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  104. [18:12:51] <abdiman> yui yuiii ^^
  105. [18:12:51] <Hatori> Sebetule kemarin udah dibahas om engkur ...
  106. [18:13:06] <abdiman> recalling aja..
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  108. [18:13:45] <Hatori> freebsd, itu turunan unix, lebih tepatnya 4.4bsdlite unix ...
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  110. [18:14:22] <abdiman> hmm
  111. [18:14:26] <Hatori> bsd adalah keluarga unix dari univ california berkeley..
  112. [18:14:49] <Hatori> Bsd = berkeley software distribution ... Cmiiw ..
  113. [18:15:05] <siTrex> :)
  114. [18:15:21] <Hatori> sedangkan linux itu ditulis oleh linus torvalds menganut system kerja 'unix'
  115. [18:15:21] <hananan> :d
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  117. [18:16:16] <Hatori> jadi freebsd, tidak mengandung kode kode unix, karena sudah ditulis ulang oleh para pendirinya .. :d
  118. [18:16:39] <Hatori> lisensi freebsd lebih liberal dibanding lisensi linux ...
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  122. [18:17:30] <Hatori> liberalnya, orang boleh code freebsd dengan sarat tertentu menjadi propietary/tertutup ...
  123. [18:17:37] <Hatori> boleh memakai ..
  124. [18:18:17] <Hatori> Contoh paling mudah, adalah mac osx leopard, kalo gak keliru, memakai sebagian freebsd code ...
  125. [18:18:19] <abdiman> lebih liberal dibanding linux?
  126. [18:18:45] <Hatori> abdiman, betul ...dalam arti yang disebutin di atas ..
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  129. [18:19:16] <abdiman> oww
  130. [18:19:22] <Hatori> kita bisa pakai code2 di freebsd, mengubahnya, dan membuatnya jadi 'produk propietary'
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  134. [18:20:26] <abdiman> produk propietary itu apa kk?
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  139. [18:21:07] <bangjali> hadeuhh..dece ...
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  141. [18:21:12] <abdiman> produk propietary itu apa kk?
  142. [18:21:16] <bangjali> apakah mo dilanjut ??
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  144. [18:21:27] <abdiman> bangjali: gpp. dimaafkan dc nya :D
  145. [18:21:32] <emre> lanjut, emang udah nyampe mana ya? :D
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  147. [18:21:43] <abdiman> produk propietary itu apa kk bangjali?
  148. [18:22:06] <bangjali> hemm
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  150. [18:22:16] <fikiaprianto> kasih pencerahan ya kang buat saya
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  153. [18:22:42] <abdiman> produk propietary : komersiil gitu ea?
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  159. [18:23:10] <emre> @abdiman : kalo ga salah sih begitu :)
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  161. [18:23:17] <Malsasa> blackshirt: : lanjut, Kang. Tentu.
  162. [18:23:18] <blackshirt> wew
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  164. [18:23:35] <blackshirt> apa masih perlu lanjut ?
  165. [18:23:35] <abdiman> ow. jadi produk propietary= produk komerisiil
  166. [18:23:37] <abdiman> thx
  167. [18:23:43] <Malsasa> blackshirt: tentu, lanjut.
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  170. [18:23:56] <abdiman> blackshirt: ebusyet. tanyanya tanpa dosa
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  172. [18:23:59] <abdiman> ya lanjut dong :D
  173. [18:24:06] <blackshirt> abdiman, lebih tepatnya 'tertutup' ....
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  175. [18:24:10] <blackshirt> hahaha...
  176. [18:24:10] <flyc> assalamu'alaikum
  177. [18:24:14] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
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  179. [18:24:23] <emre> wa 'alaikum salam
  180. [18:24:28] <noerr> wa'alaikumsalam
  181. [18:24:33] <nosada> wa'alaikumsalam
  182. [18:24:39] <Guest7489> wa alaikumsalam
  183. [18:24:43] <reggi> wa'alaikumsalam
  184. [18:24:44] <bangjali> sampai disini ada yang mo ditanyakan ?
  185. [18:24:46] <abdiman> ow ow. contoh produk propietary adalah...
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  187. [18:24:58] <flyc> terima kasih.. :)
  188. [18:25:02] <Malsasa> bangjali: FreeBSD dengan NetBSD hubungannya apa, Kang?
  189. [18:25:03] <bangjali> Sebagian kemarin dah dibahas om engkur ..jadi rasanya gak perlu diulang ..
  190. [18:25:14] <abdiman> weee, la saya kemarin ga masuk
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  192. [18:25:31] <abdiman> ya sudah gpp
  193. [18:25:35] <nosada> saya jugak, ni baru masuk bang abang. . .
  194. [18:25:38] <rendy_bomber> assalamu'alaikum semua...
  195. [18:25:41] <rendy_bomber> :D
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  199. [18:25:59] <abdiman> contoh produk propietary dari bsd adalah? ....
  200. [18:26:14] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
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  202. [18:26:20] <flyc> wa'alaikumussalam
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  204. [18:26:21] <Malsasa> nosada: selamat datang
  205. [18:26:32] <bangjali> :d
  206. [18:26:36] <bangjali> Absen lagi
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  208. [18:27:02] <bangjali> berhubung koneksinya 'ngadat' apa baiknya dilanjut om malsasa ? :d
  209. [18:27:09] <Malsasa> bangjali: lanjut, Kang.
  210. [18:27:21] <noerr> lanjut, lanjut
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  212. [18:27:26] <bangjali> oke dah ...
  213. [18:27:31] -*- Malsasa mendengar
  214. [18:27:32] <abdiman> bangjali: lanjut di fb saja po?
  215. [18:27:42] <bangjali> sama aja om abdiman ...
  216. [18:27:42] <nosada> +Malsasa: makasih, brhubung baru masuk, saya ikut nyimak aja . . :D
  217. [18:27:55] <cyberchrome> sip
  218. [18:28:00] <Breng> ijin intip2 aja
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  220. [18:28:14] <abdiman> bangjali: pertanyaan saya ulang. contoh produk propietary dari bsd adalah
  221. [18:28:21] <renodesper> lagi pada bahas bsd ya? :D
  222. [18:28:35] <renodesper> yang membedakan freebsd sama turunannya yang lain apa ya?
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  224. [18:28:48] <bangjali> abdiman, mac osx leopard :d
  225. [18:28:53] <cyberchrome> product bsd yah
  226. [18:29:03] <abdiman> owh, itu disebut propietary
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  228. [18:29:39] <abdiman> oke oke
  229. [18:29:41] <bangjali> kita lanjut dulu ..
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  232. [18:29:46] <abdiman> sekarang tanya lagi, boleh?
  233. [18:29:49] <bangjali> Sedikit perbedaan dengan linux ...
  234. [18:29:53] <ramadhan> cek
  235. [18:29:58] <Begh> met mlm om :D
  236. [18:29:59] <ramadhan> akhirnya bisa masuk IRC juga
  237. [18:30:03] <bangjali> ntar aja ..
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  239. [18:30:12] <abdiman> iya..
  240. [18:30:15] -*- renodesper nyimak
  241. [18:30:20] <ramadhan> mau tanya kang, ko saya susah yang masuk ke IRC kalau pakai wifi sekolah??
  242. [18:30:29] <bangjali> perbedaan freebsd dengan linux ..
  243. [18:30:30] <ramadhan> ip public sekolah saya 118.97.191.226
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  245. [18:30:48] <bangjali> pertama dari kernelnya ..
  246. [18:31:11] <emre> ramadhan : pake proxy kali...
  247. [18:31:16] -*- v1rus yang baru masuk cari tempat duduk :D
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  249. [18:31:21] <abdiman> hmm..
  250. [18:31:28] <Begh> !ping me
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  253. [18:32:00] -*- xgoo duduk paling belakang
  254. [18:32:03] <rendy_bomber> lanjut kang,,,
  255. [18:32:04] <renodesper> lanjut... jadi perbedaan freebsd dengan linux adalah?
  256. [18:32:06] <bangjali> freebsd adalah sistem operasi lengkap, kernel, shell, dan perangkat user dasarnya dikembangkan dalam satu 'source code revision control' ..
  257. [18:32:10] <Begh> bleh tanya..
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  261. [18:32:58] <bangjali> sedangkan linux itu menunjuk kernlenya saja, yang bisa kita lihat di kernel.org ..
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  269. [18:33:39] <bangjali> nah, peran distro lah yang menggabungkan kernel linux dengan perangkat lain, semisal shell dkk menjadi satu sistem operasi yang lengkap ..
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  271. [18:34:11] <Sulung> materi nya apa ya pak..?
  272. [18:34:12] <bangjali> perangkat2 lain, semisal, shell bash, dll biasanya datang dari proyeknya gnu ..
  273. [18:34:24] <abdiman> owwww...
  274. [18:34:26] <Milkshake> maksudnya, freebsd itu BSD (unix) karena masih ada adik lain seperti openBSD, netBSD, dragonflyBSD, begitu juga Linux (unix) ada ubuntu ada fedora ada centos
  275. [18:35:48] <aryandiw> kang, apakah kernel freeBSD sama dengan kernel varian Linux ?
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  277. [18:36:06] <bangjali> kira kira begitu.. walaupun banyak perbedaannya..
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  281. [18:36:39] <bangjali> tapi openbsd, netbsd, freebsd, adalah 'os' keluarga yang berbeda ...
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  284. [18:36:49] <bangjali> keluarga bsd yang berbeda..
  285. [18:37:00] <aryandiw> maksudnya gimana kang ?
  286. [18:37:06] <Nandzo> assalamu alaikum
  287. [18:37:11] <bangjali> Berbeda pengembangnya, berbeda 'titik berat' tujuannya ..
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  289. [18:37:36] <ramadhan_> bisa di jelaskan fungsi masing-masingnya sebagai contoh kang jali?
  290. [18:37:46] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  291. [18:37:52] <bangjali> tapi mereka banyak 'berbagi' kesamaan tentunya ..
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  293. [18:38:15] <aryandiw> Mirip varian Linux yang lain seperti blankon dan sajadah blankon gitu ?
  294. [18:38:18] <bangjali> aryandiw, beda kernelnya ...
  295. [18:38:25] <ujang_durahman> assalamu'alaikum, selamat malam. ijin nyimak.
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  299. [18:39:01] <rendy_bomber> contoh sehderhananya seperti linux bgitu ya? ada kesamaan, walaupun tujuan masing2 berbeda ?
  300. [18:39:06] <bangjali> satu satu ya om ..
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  302. [18:39:26] <rendy_bomber> wa'alaikum salam..
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  304. [18:39:43] <Nandzo> mau nanya kang debian sma redhat linux lebih user friendly mana ya ?
  305. [18:39:53] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
  306. [18:40:07] <ramadhan_> Nandzo : kalau menurut saya debian
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  308. [18:40:12] <Sulung> debian
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  312. [18:40:51] <ujang_durahman> daripada redhat mending fedora. redhat untuk coorporat kyaknya.
  313. [18:40:59] <bangjali> jadi netbsd dan freebsd itu 'turunan' dari 4.4bsd ...
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  317. [18:41:31] <aryandiw> 4.4bsd ? Asing sekali saya dengan sistem itu :D
  318. [18:41:32] <haidir> semoga saya tidak nyasar :D
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  321. [18:41:53] <bangjali> Kemudian openbsd memisahkan diri dari netbsd, karena theo de raadt, sang founder opensd tidak sepaham dengan developernya netbsd...
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  323. [18:42:09] <bangjali> Akhirnya om theo de raadt membuat openbsd
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  326. [18:42:28] <bangjali> tahun 94/95an kalo gak keliru ...
  327. [18:43:04] <fajar066> bsd tu sama dengan linux lainnya?
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  333. [18:43:57] <akhfa> G pernah pake BSD ._.
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  340. [18:45:25] <blackshirt> hadeuhhh..
  341. [18:45:27] <blackshirt> Dece :d
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  343. [18:45:42] <Milkshake> kalau mau tau BSD gimana, register shell gratis di cjb.net, server nya pakai freeBSD
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  345. [18:46:00] <blackshirt> apa perlu dilanjut ?
  346. [18:46:04] <Milkshake> lanjut
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  349. [18:46:09] <yoga> lanjut
  350. [18:46:24] <Malsasa> bangjali: lanjut
  351. [18:46:30] <Malsasa> bangjali: atau akang silakan memberikan rangkuman
  352. [18:46:42] <blackshirt> jadi varian utama dari bsd ini, ada freebsd, netbsd, dan openbsd ..
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  355. [18:46:51] <blackshirt> Yang lainnya ada, tapi gak apal :d
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  357. [18:47:12] <Guest7489> lanjut
  358. [18:47:13] <blackshirt> Sedang dragonfly bsd, pc-bsd, desktopbsd adalah turunan freebsd
  359. [18:47:19] <renodesper> dragonflybsd om :D
  360. [18:47:30] <blackshirt> yup ..
  361. [18:47:32] <renodesper> ada juga archbsd om :P
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  363. [18:47:38] <ramadhan_> kalau bsd lain ( selain freebsd ) ga punya turunan om?
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  366. [18:48:04] <blackshirt> turunan mah banyak :d
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  369. [18:48:31] <rendy_bomber> turunan mah banyak, turunin yang susah,,, hihi.. :D
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  371. [18:48:41] <blackshirt> contoh lagi debian gnu/kdreebsd
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  377. [18:48:41] <ramadhan_> oh, kirain ga punya om kalau selain freebsd wkwk
  378. [18:48:52] <blackshirt> adalah sistem debian yang memakai kernel freebsd ..
  379. [18:49:06] <blackshirt> akunya yang gak apal om :d
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  381. [18:49:14] <Anzwer> Fokus Free BSD itu dmnya si ..? biasa pengguna pk free BSD itu u/ ngurus apa aja ? adakah prusahaan yg pk free bsd..?klo buat tugas akhir bisa gak bikin "sesuatu" di free bsd kang, bnyak tnya ^^
  382. [18:49:36] <blackshirt> baik..satu satu ya om ..
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  384. [18:49:49] <renodesper> Anzwer: banyak banget kali om yang pake freebsd, sedikit bocoran nih kalo ga salah a*is pake freebsd buat server :P
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  386. [18:49:55] <ramadhan_> *pasang tiker
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  388. [18:49:58] <blackshirt> freebsd umumnya dipakai sebagai server seperti halnya lonux ..
  389. [18:50:13] <blackshirt> linux maksudnya ...
  390. [18:50:37] <Milkshake> konsol playstation itu guna freeBSD kayaknya
  391. [18:50:54] <blackshirt> iSP banyak yang pakai freebsd ...
  392. [18:51:01] <renodesper> playstation ya baru ya? iya itu freebsd 9.2 kalo ga salah :)
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  394. [18:51:21] <ramadhan_> lebih mantep mana linux sama bsd bang??
  395. [18:51:21] <Cucu> Siap untuk Menyimak (y) .. Monggo Gus
  396. [18:51:29] <blackshirt> denger2 sih gitu, playstation 4
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  398. [18:52:02] <dina_> mohon pertanyaan jangan diluar topik trima kasih
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  400. [18:52:09] <blackshirt> om ramadhan_, itu relatif om .. Mereka punya keunggulan masing2
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  402. [18:52:32] <ramadhan_> kalau menurut kang blackshirt gimana??
  403. [18:52:47] <tws_> izin nyimak mas2
  404. [18:52:49] <Milkshake> sama aja unix cuma banyak pengembang yang mau $$ lebih memilih BSD ketimbang Linux sebagai menguntungkan karena seperti tadi dibilang apa itu propretiary, liat aja OS X
  405. [18:52:50] <blackshirt> nanti saja pertanyaan seperti itu :d
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  407. [18:53:16] <rendy_bomber> lanjut...
  408. [18:53:30] <ramadhan_> okek deh bang :v
  409. [18:53:51] <blackshirt> kita lanjut ya ..
  410. [18:53:55] <Milkshake> lanjut
  411. [18:53:56] <glam> file system standar bsd itu apa ya?
  412. [18:53:56] <ramadhan_> sip
  413. [18:53:58] <Bayu> om blackshirt lanjutkan ceritanya buat para newbie
  414. [18:54:11] <blackshirt> yang ringan ringan saja ...
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  416. [18:54:53] <blackshirt> kita sudah bahas perbedaan freebsd dan linux dari kernelnya ...
  417. [18:55:05] <blackshirt> Kemudian apa perbedaan lainnya ...
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  419. [18:55:59] <tws_> siap kang
  420. [18:56:21] <tws_> saya masih newbie di linux
  421. [18:56:26] <blackshirt> sedikit dari perbedaan manajemen paketnya ...
  422. [18:56:37] <blackshirt> yang membedakan dengan linux
  423. [18:56:43] <ramadhan_> maksud management paket bang??
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  425. [18:57:12] <blackshirt> buat install menginstall program/aplikasi/utility
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  427. [18:58:03] <tws_> kalau di bsd family.apa yg bedanya di sisi kernelnya mas?
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  429. [18:58:06] <blackshirt> di freebsd, kernel+shell+userland dasar sudah masuk sebagai base system
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  431. [18:58:12] <blackshirt> atau sistem dasar ..
  432. [18:58:23] <Fathunur> hmm..
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  439. [18:59:16] <rizal> salam semuanya..
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  441. [18:59:42] <blackshirt> ada dua model manajemen paket di freebsd, satu yang binary based, satunya yang source code based
  442. [18:59:46] <Achmad> assalamualaikum
  443. [18:59:58] <rizal> waalaikum salam
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  445. [19:00:18] <blackshirt> Yang binary dengan pkg atau pkgng yang install lewat source ada port system ..
  446. [19:00:23] <Achmad> ini topik yang dibahas freebsd atau apa ?
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  448. [19:00:57] <Achmad> free bsd sama ubuntu server lebih powerfull mana ya ?
  449. [19:01:03] <ramadhan_> bang Achmad : ia
  450. [19:01:27] <blackshirt> mas achmad, mohon hindari pertanyaan yang 'relatif' dan 'subjektif' ...
  451. [19:01:47] <Achmad> ia maaf
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  453. [19:02:09] <blackshirt> freebsd kondang dengan ports systemnya ...
  454. [19:02:16] <Achmad> aku belum pernah pakai freebsd adakah ebook yang membahas tentang konfigurasi server dengan freebsd ?
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  456. [19:02:28] <tws_> contoh untuk source yg ada port system,maksudnya??
  457. [19:02:46] <blackshirt> kalo distro linux yang 'menganu' seperti freebsd yang paling kentara yakni gentoo dan arch linux
  458. [19:02:53] <blackshirt> menganut
  459. [19:03:09] <tws_> maksudnya install lewat source ada port systemnya? *contoh?
  460. [19:03:10] <blackshirt> gentoo dengar portagenya dan arch dengan aurnya ..
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  462. [19:03:22] <blackshirt> mohon koreksi kalo keliru om ..
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  464. [19:03:46] <blackshirt> saya ulas sedikit ttg ports di freebsd ..
  465. [19:04:00] <fikiaprianto> ia gmna tentang portnya
  466. [19:04:03] <tws_> siap nyimak.. :)
  467. [19:04:08] <rizal> ikut
  468. [19:04:14] <fikiaprianto> siap folow
  469. [19:04:19] <blackshirt> yang terbiasa dengan gentoo/arch saya yakin dah paham ..
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  471. [19:04:57] <fikiaprianto> belum terbiasa baru mau mulai
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  474. [19:06:16] <ramadhan_> kalau saya baru mengenal bang, hehe
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  477. [19:06:46] <kembangbule> test
  478. [19:06:51] <dina_> mohon pertayaan GJ ditunda sampai ada sesi tersendiri biar rapi
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  481. [19:07:43] <blackshirt> jadi mohon supportnya :d
  482. [19:07:44] <blackshirt> jadi ports system di freebsd adalah sebuah sistem/perangkat yang memungkinkan freebsd mengunduh, mempatch, mengcompile, menginstall dan membuang sebuah aplikasi dari sebuah source code langsung ...
  483. [19:07:45] <blackshirt> secara langsung ..
  484. [19:07:46] <tws_> adakah kemungkinan "sedikit" perbedaan.antara arch dengan bsd family.? soalny dari arsiktektur mungkin beda. cmiiw
  485. [19:07:50] <blackshirt> jadi dengan bahasa yang lebih mudah, ports system berisi setingan,petunjuk atau perintah bagaimana freebsd mengunduh, mempatch,mengcompile,menginstall maupun meremove sebuah program dari source code,
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  487. [19:09:08] <tws_> mungkin dari proses compile sampai jadi program dari codenya.
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  496. [19:11:36] <Hatori> berhubung koneksinya memble, kuliah dicukupkan aja ya ? :d
  497. [19:11:38] <Hatori> :d :d
  498. [19:11:49] <noerr> yaah
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  503. [19:12:46] <blackshirt> hadeuhh...
  504. [19:12:51] <blackshirt> sampe sini ada yang mo ditanyakan dolo ?
  505. [19:13:04] <blackshirt> colok malsasa, sang provokator ...
  506. [19:13:07] <blackshirt> :d
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  509. [19:13:31] <blackshirt> malsasa, masih hadir om ?
  510. [19:13:34] <dina_> makanya klu udah tahu koneksi dosen lelet jgn diselah dulu biar gamblang
  511. [19:13:34] <Malsasa> ============PERATURAN==============================
  512. [19:13:34] <Malsasa> - Tidak boleh menyela selama dosen/pemateri sedang memberikan materi
  513. [19:13:34] <Malsasa> - Pertanyaan/komentar boleh diajukan kalau sudah diizinkan oleh dosen/pemateri
  514. [19:13:34] <Malsasa> =================================================
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  516. [19:13:42] <Malsasa> blackshirt: hadir, hadir
  517. [19:13:50] <ramadhan> ijin nanya kang
  518. [19:13:51] <Malsasa> oke, semua sudah pada baca peraturannya?
  519. [19:13:56] <blackshirt> hahaha...
  520. [19:14:02] <blackshirt> silahkan ...
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  522. [19:14:13] <ramadhan> kalau, sistem management paket di linux sendiri seperti apa?
  523. [19:14:25] <omigasun> haha.., kahirnya keluar rule nya
  524. [19:14:25] <dina_> lanjutttttttttttttt pakdosen
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  526. [19:14:28] <tws_> adakah kemungkinan "sedikit" perbedaan.antara arch dengan bsd family.? soalny dari arsiktektur mungkin beda. cmiiw
  527. [19:14:31] <omigasun> bagus biar gag campur2
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  529. [19:14:36] <blackshirt> kalo di linux, tergantung distronya om
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  532. [19:14:58] <ramadhan> ambil salah satu contoh distro yang umum aja kang blackshirt
  533. [19:15:02] <blackshirt> kalo di debian dkk tentunya yang paling kondang pakai apt
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  535. [19:15:34] <ramadhan> oh ia, saya kenal sama tuh orang (apt) wkwkwk
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  537. [19:15:37] <blackshirt> kalo di redhat, kita kenal rpm dan sejenisnya..misal yum
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  539. [19:15:58] <blackshirt> Di gentoo ada portage dan emerge nya
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  542. [19:16:17] <ramadhan> ohh ia, saya pernah dengar itu si yum :o
  543. [19:16:30] <ramadhan> nah emerge itu apa kang?
  544. [19:16:30] <tws_> oh..udah ngerti pak.
  545. [19:16:32] <blackshirt> dan lain lain om ..
  546. [19:16:41] <blackshirt> tws_, arch dan bsd beda kan om ..
  547. [19:16:41] <tws_> boleh nanya lagi pak?
  548. [19:16:52] <blackshirt> bisa diperjelas tanyanya
  549. [19:17:02] <blackshirt> silahkan ...
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  553. [19:18:06] <tws_> maksudny proses dari ngunduh,compile sampe jadi maksudny pak?.apa sama atau gimana?,soalnya dari arsitektur mungkin beda.. cmiiw
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  555. [19:18:10] <blackshirt> ramadhan, semacam apt, tapi itu di gentoo ..
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  557. [19:18:40] <ramadhan> oh gitu kang blackshirt, saya kira tadi itu nama system apa.... gitu..
  558. [19:18:42] <ramadhan> hehe
  559. [19:18:53] <blackshirt> bagi yang dah biasa ngompile2 di linux, secara prinsip sama saja ...
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  562. [19:19:55] <glam> mohon maaf, masih boleh nanya?
  563. [19:20:34] <tws_> masih boleh nanya pak?
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  565. [19:21:59] <Hatori> hadeuhh...maaf om om
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  567. [19:22:09] <dina_> ????????????????????????? bisa nyimak dulu apa nggak sih
  568. [19:22:13] <Malsasa> Hatori: jangan pernah khawatir
  569. [19:22:19] <rendy_bomber> boleh tanya om?
  570. [19:22:46] <Hatori> bentar, saya kepaksa tak ganti koneksi yang agak mendingan
  571. [19:22:53] <Hatori> Silahkan om ..
  572. [19:23:06] <Hatori> :d :d :d
  573. [19:23:06] <armaidi> trimkasih......
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  576. [19:23:36] <Hatori> exit bentar
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  578. [19:24:13] <glam> 1. Bukannya kalaudi arch itu managemen paketnya "Pacman" (package manager) ?
  579. [19:24:58] <glam> sedangkan aur sendiri user repository?
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  584. [19:26:45] <blackshirt> halo
  585. [19:26:51] <glam> bagaimana disamakan ports dengan aur?
  586. [19:26:51] <ramadhan> hi
  587. [19:27:31] <blackshirt> glam, gak sama persis lah om .. perbandingan saja ..
  588. [19:28:01] <Malsasa> ============PERATURAN==============================
  589. [19:28:01] <Malsasa> - Tidak boleh menyela selama dosen/pemateri sedang memberikan materi
  590. [19:28:01] <Malsasa> - Pertanyaan/komentar boleh diajukan kalau sudah diizinkan oleh dosen/pemateri
  591. [19:28:01] <Malsasa> - Mohon ditaati demi kebaikan bersama
  592. [19:28:01] <Malsasa> =================================================
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  594. [19:28:08] <blackshirt> saya bukan pengguna aktif arch linux, jadi gak bisa berkomentar banyak ttg pacman
  595. [19:28:13] <blackshirt> mari dilanjut
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  597. [19:29:13] <rendy_bomber> om nanya dong, kl manajemen paket binary maksudnya apa ya??
  598. [19:29:35] <blackshirt> maaf dengan koneksi abal-abal saya om om semua ... :d
  599. [19:29:46] <blackshirt> Buat warga lama, mohon maklum ..
  600. [19:29:53] <blackshirt> :d
  601. [19:29:57] <Malsasa> blackshirt: tentu :)
  602. [19:30:04] <ramadhan> oke om, saya merasakannya juga :v
  603. [19:30:14] <ramadhan> ada pertanyaan tuh om blackshirt dari om rendy_bomber
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  605. [19:30:59] <v1rus> blackshirt :D
  606. [19:31:50] <blackshirt> paket binary, paket yang pre compiled, sudah dicompile .. ...
  607. [19:32:21] <blackshirt> seperti kalo diubuntu kita install pakai apt-get install .bla bla
  608. [19:33:00] <blackshirt> apt mengunduh paket yang pre compiled lalu install/pasang ..
  609. [19:33:15] <blackshirt> Jadi gak perlu pakai compile lagi
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  611. [19:33:31] <ogut22> kk ubuntu itu apaan?
  612. [19:33:58] -*- blackshirt gubrakk :d
  613. [19:34:41] <ogut22> ini ada yang sharing di fb tentang irc ubuntu
  614. [19:34:57] <rendy_bomber> loh terus bedanya sama source code apa om?? *kurang paham
  615. [19:36:19] <blackshirt> lanjut dolo yak ...
  616. [19:37:26] <andrew> ^_^b
  617. [19:38:06] <blackshirt> kita lanjut ke bagian yang 'relatif' dan 'subjektif' tentang keunggulan dan kelemahan freebsd ... :d
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  619. [19:38:35] <dina_> 86
  620. [19:39:01] <malsasa_> mana ini
  621. [19:39:07] <blackshirt> berhubung ini bagian yang 'relatif' dan 'subjektif' jadi mohon dimengerti..kenyataan mungkin gak spt itu menurut orang lain, dan masih banyak review yang perlu dibaca ...
  622. [19:39:44] <blackshirt> tapi saya berusaha seobjektif mungkin ...
  623. [19:39:56] <blackshirt> dan mohon koreksi kalau keliru ..
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  628. [19:40:23] <blackshirt> wew
  629. [19:40:28] <blackKWSuper> wew
  630. [19:40:32] <ramadhan> okek
  631. [19:40:32] <blackKWSuper> 45 :D
  632. [19:40:39] <blackKWSuper> salm teman2~
  633. [19:40:39] <blackshirt> salim dulu ama bos besar blackKWSuper
  634. [19:40:45] <blackshirt> Mohon ijim om ...
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  636. [19:40:56] <blackKWSuper> beeh :D mana ada bos besar yang KW
  637. [19:41:08] <gnine> mohon maaf, materi malam ini apa yah? koq sampe bahas freebsd?
  638. [19:41:12] <blackKWSuper> kanal lagi sesuatu ?, kuliah semisalnya ?
  639. [19:41:25] <blackshirt> berhubung ada 'si bos' .. kuliah distop aja yak ...
  640. [19:41:28] <blackKWSuper> owh... freebsd :D sip2
  641. [19:41:29] <blackshirt> :d
  642. [19:41:34] <blackKWSuper> beeh :D
  643. [19:41:43] -*- blackKWSuper check lokasi parkiran klo gitu :D
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  645. [19:41:58] <suka|parkir> silakan dilanjut kuliahnya :D
  646. [19:42:05] <noerr> lanjut aja om
  647. [19:42:16] <blackshirt> ya bos :d
  648. [19:42:28] <dina_> tak ada bos klu nggak ada anak buah lanjutttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
  649. [19:42:32] <blackshirt> masuk ke bagian 'subjektif' :d
  650. [19:42:57] <ogut22> permisi kk freebsd itu linux atau windows
  651. [19:43:01] <blackshirt> dari model pengembangan freebsd,
  652. [19:43:53] <blackshirt> seperti diawal, freebsd dikembangkan lengkap dari kernel+shell+tool2 dasar berada dalam satu kontrol ..
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  656. [19:45:11] <blackshirt> freebsd dikendalikan oleh sebuah 'tim inti' atau 'core team' yang kalo gak salah berisi 9 orang yang menentukan arah kebijakan pengembangan freebsd
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  659. [19:46:01] <blackshirt> ini berbeda dengan pengembangan kernel linux, yang sampai sekarang 'dipimpin' oleh penciptanya ..si om linus torvalds ..
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  661. [19:47:12] <rendy_bomber> lanjut..
  662. [19:47:24] <yoga> lanjut
  663. [19:47:30] <darmawan> lanjut
  664. [19:47:51] <blackshirt> dan om linus dkk memimpin pengembangan kernel linux, hanya kernelnya saja ... Sementara tool tool yang lain berada 'di rumah' lain ..
  665. [19:48:33] <blackshirt> itu yang pertama .. Hal tsb bisa jadi kelemahan atau bisa jadi kekuatan :d
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  668. [19:49:14] <blackshirt> kemudian dari segi lisensinya ..
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  670. [19:50:14] <blackshirt> code code di freebsd biasanya berlisensi ,'freebsd license' yang lebih liberal dibanding 'gpl' yang ada di linux..
  671. [19:50:35] <blackshirt> Di mana keuntungannya, di atas udah dijelasin ...
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  674. [19:51:31] <blackshirt> Behhh...baru nyadar, koneksinya agak membaik ..
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  676. [19:51:48] <Agumonfuad> Assalamu'alaikum...
  677. [19:52:04] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumusalam, Agumonfuad silakan baca PM saya
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  682. [19:53:55] <blackshirt> kemudian, yang ketiga ...
  683. [19:54:54] [ChanServ] You have been opped on #ubuntu-indonesia by suka|parkir (IntegerManual)
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  685. [19:55:00] <blackshirt> bagi yang kenal dengan network programming, pasti tahu apa itu socket ..
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  687. [19:55:41] <rendy_bomber> :D
  688. [19:55:44] <blackshirt> Implementasi socket yang digunakan dalam tcp/ip networking pada awalnya adalah dari leluhurnya bsd ...
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  690. [19:56:34] <blackshirt> jadi soal netwokring, freebsd memang dari dulunya dah mapan ...
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  693. [19:57:46] <blackshirt> networking*
  694. [19:58:46] <blackshirt> jadi lumrah saja, ada yang mengatakan, freebsd 'lebih baik' dibanding linux ... :d :d
  695. [19:59:16] <suka|parkir> siap :D
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  697. [19:59:31] <glam> lanjut
  698. [19:59:31] <blackshirt> materinya sekitar freebsd saja, gak masuk ke dalam .. Sekilas
  699. [19:59:43] <Alakulihal> Assalamu'alaikum
  700. [19:59:43] <blackshirt> nyampe di sini ada yang mo ditanyakan ?
  701. [19:59:52] <suka|parkir> wa'alaikumsalam
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  703. [19:59:59] <blackshirt> waalaikumsalam
  704. [20:00:01] <Alakulihal> Tanya om
  705. [20:00:11] <Alakulihal> Bahas apa?
  706. [20:00:15] <Malsasa> Wa'alaikumussalam
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  708. [20:00:44] <Malsasa> blackshirt: OpenBSD dengan FreeBSD lebih aman mana, Kang? Menurut akang.
  709. [20:00:58] <rendy_bomber> maksudnya leluhur bsd apa ya om?
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  711. [20:01:36] <Alakulihal> Dan Freebsd itu ada live cdnya ga om?
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  714. [20:02:42] <saa7_go> super sekali pengunjung kanal ini
  715. [20:03:12] <blackshirt> malsasa, openbsd memang mengkonsentrasikan diri dalam hal keamanan, dengan motonya 'secure by default' ... umumnya soal keamanan, openbsd lebih om
  716. [20:03:27] <blackshirt> alakulihal, freebsd ada livecdnya ..
  717. [20:03:34] <Malsasa> blackshirt: terima kasih, saya catat.
  718. [20:03:54] <blackshirt> bsd-install dari cd installer memiliki opsi live
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  720. [20:04:21] <blackshirt> rendy, maksudnya pendahulunya ..
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  722. [20:05:01] <blackshirt> ciduk om saa7_go ...
  723. [20:05:23] <saa7_go> lanjut om
  724. [20:05:49] <blackshirt> saya kira begitu yakk ..kapan kapan kita belajar nginstallnya :d
  725. [20:05:51] <Alakulihal> bikin livenya gmn? unetbootin bisa ya? lalu softwarenya apa pada kompile atau ada repository yang tinggal apt-get gitu om?
  726. [20:06:19] <rendy_bomber> di jadwalkan aja kapan pertemuan selanjutnya om.. :D
  727. [20:06:23] <Alakulihal> Jaga keseimbangan biar om blek ga dece.
  728. [20:07:12] <blackshirt> alakulihal, installer reguler ada opsi live kalo mo test ..
  729. [20:07:24] <suka|parkir> :D iya dijadwal kapan om black bisa kasi kuliah lagi + waktunya yang ga dece
  730. [20:07:27] <blackshirt> Saran saya,'pakai turunan yang lebih mudah
  731. [20:07:41] <blackshirt> Misal pc-bsd, dekstopbsd atau dragonfly
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  733. [20:08:13] <Alakulihal> colek suka|parkir bentar lagi dece.
  734. [20:08:39] <blackshirt> wew, om bosm katanya nungguin parkir :d
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  736. [20:08:51] <blackshirt> sebelum di tutup, ada yang mo tanya lagi ?
  737. [20:09:26] <Alakulihal> soal aplikasi om blackshirt
  738. [20:09:39] <Malsasa> blackshirt: adakah antarmuka khusus FreeBSD? Macam Unity untuk Ubuntu?
  739. [20:09:44] <Alakulihal> apa ada repository macam debian/ubuntu yang tinggal apt-get
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  741. [20:09:54] <blackshirt> maksudnya ..
  742. [20:10:17] <saa7_go> desktop environment kali
  743. [20:10:21] <blackshirt> oh iya ...tadi keuntungan/keunggulannya ... Kelemahannya belom
  744. [20:10:21] <blackshirt> bentar
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  749. [20:10:44] <suka|parkir> :-D
  750. [20:11:05] <kcin> pkg_add
  751. [20:11:07] <blackshirt> yang saya catat, misal ...dukungan driver memang masih 'kalah' dibanding linux ..
  752. [20:11:48] <blackshirt> kcin, wew..ciduk dulu,,jangan lupa makan malam bersama kekasih om :d
  753. [20:11:48] <dina_> usul buat pak dosen klu sudah memberikan materi tlg di tutup dgn rangkuman
  754. [20:12:05] <blackshirt> pkg_add kapan kapan :d
  755. [20:12:23] <kcin> ~_~
  756. [20:12:44] <ogut22> tanya pak, maaf ane ikut di tengah materi.. freebsd ada komunitasnya kah?
  757. [20:13:08] <blackshirt> seperti disebut om kcin, dekstop environment mang lebih 'unggul' di linux :d
  758. [20:13:18] <blackshirt> ogut22, ada ...
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  760. [20:13:34] <kcin> blackshirt: salah orang om..
  761. [20:13:39] <blackshirt> Kalo gak salah ada forum yang indonesia, sebentar ..
  762. [20:13:41] <ogut22> chating2annya kayak ubuntu-indo
  763. [20:13:54] <Agumonfuad> Tapi jarang update itu webnya
  764. [20:14:15] <blackshirt> ada kanal #freebsd
  765. [20:14:16] <Agumonfuad> Gabung di facebook aja Freebsd Indonesia
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  767. [20:14:34] <blackshirt> yang indonesia kanalnya kurang tahu saya
  768. [20:15:17] <blackshirt> forumnya ada, seperti petunjuk om malsasa, indofreebsd.or.id ...
  769. [20:15:19] <saa7_go> ngomong2, tumben bahas *bsd ni
  770. [20:15:32] <blackshirt> Saya punya akunnya, tapi dah lama..lupa... :d
  771. [20:15:35] <Malsasa> saa7_go: ada yang provokasi
  772. [20:15:49] <yoga> ni orangnya nongol
  773. [20:15:53] <blackshirt> Cokok saa7_go ...
  774. [20:15:57] <blackshirt> Malsasa = provokator
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  776. [20:16:09] <saa7_go> cukil blackshirt
  777. [20:16:09] <dina_> woeeeeeeeeeeeeee ini kuliah apa ngobrol
  778. [20:16:11] <gnine> kalo boleh usul, setiap judul materi, dijadikan /topic channel
  779. [20:16:30] <ogut22> kk bs, ty infonya
  780. [20:16:33] <yoga> om dina : ada ngobrolnya juga
  781. [20:16:40] <suka|parkir> colok lisnux, topic kanal om
  782. [20:16:52] <blackshirt> oke dah...cukup ya kuliahnya...kapan kapan lagi dah .. Dah sepet ni mata ...
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  785. [20:17:04] <Malsasa> blackshirt: ditutup, Kang?
  786. [20:17:07] <saa7_go> udah dicukil kok masih sepet, om
  787. [20:17:07] <blackshirt> Sepet ada si bos, takut dimarahin... :d
  788. [20:17:15] <Malsasa> blackshirt: kaskus: http://www.kaskus.co.id/post/000000000000000063304926#post000000000000000063304926
  789. [20:17:16] <suka|parkir> beeh jangan ditutup  :D belum puas
  790. [20:17:41] <abs_> iya belum puas :p
  791. [20:17:43] -*- suka|parkir masih punya sejumlah hasrat yang belum terpenuhi...
  792. [20:17:45] <blackshirt> saa7_go, kurang halus cukilannya... :d
  793. [20:18:08] <yoga> yang belum puas nanya om !
  794. [20:18:29] <Irfan_P> baru saja buka chanel... Eh, ternyata mau tutup...
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  796. [20:18:38] <lisnux> soal topic silahkan aja
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  799. [20:19:08] <saa7_go> kenapa ya whatsapp milih pake freebsd ketimbang linux?
  800. [20:19:12] <blackshirt> suka|parkir,'liat aja ke juragan log bos :d
  801. [20:19:12] <blackshirt> saya tutup, sekian dan terima kasih..
  802. [20:19:12] <blackshirt> Wassalamualaikum ..
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