GDT 12 Semis, Ame vs PoB, Embrace Judgement

Demogorgon vs Aquaman

Aquaman was not OOTed, round proceeds as argued

1.	Speed Stuff
	a.	I think Aqua man holds the speed advantage, based on his jumping, and controls the initiative to strike first or to retreat out of Demo’s range.
2.	Fear Aura stuff
	a.	Demo’s feats
		i.	I think it’s solid in terms of affecting courageous people w/ mental amps
	b.	Aqua’s mental resistance feats
		i.	I think the AI feat is ok, mainly because I buy that the effects of the telepathy come from Aquaman trying to communicate with the AI, and that the explicit statements of Aquaman being resistant to control are good
		ii.	I think Ame is ahead on the eldritch debate, mainly because PoB allows Ame get away with asserting that eldritch monsters = Demogorgon and that reading minds >> whatever Demogorgon does by not directly addressing those claims
		iii.	The JL stuff is fake as hell, Ame is saved from it being an anti feat with the scaling of how powerful Spectre is
	c.	Conclusion
		i.	I think Aquaman doesn’t auto die to the aura, but he is likely to try to retreat.
3.	Demo Piercing vs Aqua man
	a.	Demo Piercing
		i.	It slices through magically reinforced stone and wood
	b.	Aqua Man Dura
		i.	Mini minigun feat is alright but not great, I buy Ame’s argument that it’s meant to be a minigun but I also acknowledge PoB’s argument that the bullets may not be high caliber.
		ii.	Regardless of whether I buy Ame trying to guypost the Humvee feats away (for the record, I think Ame tackled this argument too late), I don’t think they matter that much as an anti feat because Aqua man’s skin seems fine in all the scans posted, and the discussion centers around the armor being pierced without discussing the implications of the armor being pierced mattering
		iii.	I don’t really care that much about the cleaving in two anti feat because no relevant anti feats were brought up that would make this anti feat negate Aqua man’s other feats
		iv.	Not really sure why Ame brought up Aquaman tanking “high caliber bullets” if he wasn’t going to defend the feat after PoB called the guns energy guns
		v.	I think the Croc scaling is good, and shows Aquaman taking metal piercing piercing
		vi.	The dead shot feat was good in concept, but water just really ruins the whole feat like PoB argues
		vii.	Nothing really can deal with the trident
	c.	Conclusion
		i.	I think Aquaman can deal with Demogorgon’s piercing, as the trident has sufficient durability and length to deal with Demo’s size, and his skin shows enough tensile strength to deal with Demo’s piercing.
4.	Demo striking vs Aquaman.
	a.	I think Demo’s striking is decent but that Aquaman’s dura is decent enough to take multiple hits. Whether or not the jade spider feats are good, the stone feats seem solid enough to make this a match from Demo while Aquaman’s feats weren’t really contested and were good.
5.	Aqua striking vs Demo
	a.	I think aquaman’s striking and Demo’s dura is good, basically same rationale as before.
6.	Cold stuff
	a.	I think it adversely harms Demogorgon and is in character used by Aquaman.

Conclusion.

Ame wins Aquaman vs Demogorgon. I think this is a close match up, but Aquaman fighting from range w/ ice should give him the edge in the matchup given comparable physicals from both sides.

Ame 1-0

Roboute Guilliman vs Rogue

Guilliman was not OOTed, round proceeds as argued

1.	Meta – Ame’s stips/Carol amp
	a.	I buy that Ame’s feats are germane to the version of Rogue that he is running due to being his Rogue being stronger than Rogue partially absorbing Carol’s powers.
2.	Is Guilliman’s blunt offense relevant
	a.	I buy Roboute’s offense as advertised because it wasn’t significantly countered, but concur with Ame that the man hit into a pillar is closer to 0.5 tons than 1 ton.
	b.	I’ll just go through each dura feat
		i.	The Jugg feat is a little iffy for Rogue, especially since Ame never answered PoB’s arguments directly
		ii.	The Carol punches Rogue and craters a wall feat is fine, as while it might be slightly undersized relative to Roboute’s feats, the metal aspect makes up for that difference
		iii.	The bunker feat is pretty good, PoB didn’t answer it directly
		iv.	I think the output of Rogue being slammed into the ground is generally above Roboute’s feats and she can still fight as Ame said, but I also think she needs some time to recover like Pob said which balances out the feat.
		v.	I think the trench feat is ok but not great
		vi.	In conclusion, I think Rogue can take some of Roboute’s hits but will go down eventually
3.	Is Guilliman’s piercing offense relevant
	a.	On the bolter’s piercing
		i.	PoB never explicitly rebuts the contention that the bolters only scale in blunt force (although I do buy the scaling)
		ii.	I think they pierce through metal, and generally buy PoB’s arguments on the non Skarbrand feats
	b.	On Rogue’s dura
		i.	I think Wolverine’s bone claws cut through metal based on the quantity of feats provided. I think the scaling is fine, and don’t buy that I should take armor plate literally or that the knife is sharpened significantly more than Wolverine’s claws.
		ii.	I think the gun that sends Rogue back is vaguely supernatural based on the knockback and fracturing of the pillar.
		iii.The cannon feat exists.
	c.	In conclusion, I think Rogue can deal with the bolter
4.	Guilliman’s dura vs Rogue’s punching
	a.	Rogue’s punching
		i.	I think the Strong Guy feat is decent with the explanation of his size and the full picture of the crater
		ii.	The multiple pillars feat is really good
	b.	Guilliman’s dura
		i.	For the Lorgar feat
			1.	I do buy that there’s at least some sort of scaling between Roboute and Lorgar, but I don’t think it’s necessarily 1 to 1 because of the wonky physics/energy repelling shields, and Lorgar’s striking could be reasonably lower but not by a significant magnitude
			2.	I think Roboute can fight through punches comparable to his strength, but not for long
			3.	I think that Roboute’s armor can definitively be cracked by blows of his strength
		ii.	For the Magnus feat
			1.	I think it’s weaker than portrayed by PoB due to the lack of specificity on the speed and surface area that was brought up by Ame.
			2.	His armor clearly has issues given the warning bells and such
	c.	In Conclusion
	i.	I think Rogue can punch through the armor, and can take Roboute down in a few hits
5.	Rogue blitz
	a.	PoB never counters Rogue blitzing so yeah
6.	Rogue uppercuts the helmet
	a.	Don’t need to adjudicate this to decide but Ame is probably ahead

Conclusion

Ame wins Rogue vs Roboute. Rogue is successfully argued to blitz and punch Roboute. Roboute has no explicit feats that define the durability of his armor, so I believe Rogue can strike through his armor and win with the Drain Touch. Even if I didn’t buy this, I think Rogue attempting to remove the helmet, or straight up winning a brawl are viable options as well.

Ame 2-0

Spartan vs Gaara

Spartan was OOTed, and hence PoB wins this match up

Ame 2-1

Ame wins my judgement