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  1. [23:38] <Premislyd> So yeah, I'll apologize for my post in your thread (which, honestly given it being religious based you should've expected it) even though it was purely IC
  2. [23:38] <Premislyd> But I don't recall "undermining your authority" so I'll pass on that
  3. [23:39] <New_Edom> Sure you do Prem, you keep making digs about me wanting 'my way or the highway' which is untrue and accusatory. I'd like you to stop doing it.
  4. [23:39] <New_Edom> And the religious stuff didn't offend me.
  5. [23:42] <Premislyd> So you want blind loyalty, okay
  6. [23:42] <Premislyd> And according to Cornellia, it did
  7. [23:43] <New_Edom> I don't want blind loyalty. Would you like to know what I'd like?
  8. [23:43] <Premislyd> No, I enjoy guessing
  9. [23:44] <Premislyd> You understand the problem is conflicting personallities, right
  10. [23:44] <New_Edom> explain
  11. [23:45] <Premislyd> You seem like a person that enjoys structure, rules, orders, etc.
  12. [23:45] <Premislyd> I don't like being told what to do
  13. [23:45] <Premislyd> Therefore conflicting personalities
  14. [23:46] <New_Edom> I do like that.
  15. [23:48] <Premislyd> Exactly
  16. [23:48] <Premislyd> I don't like that
  17. [23:49] <New_Edom> Well, what I'd like then is this: either we compromise in some way or you accept leaving the region with no hard feelings.
  18. [23:49] <Premislyd> lol
  19. [23:49] <New_Edom> So what would you find an acceptable compromise?
  20. [23:49] <Premislyd> Don't try to pull the same thing you pulled on Oss, hun
  21. [23:49] <Premislyd> It's not going to work
  22. [23:49] <New_Edom> Okay then you'll have to leave.
  23. [23:49] <Premislyd> And if I refuse?
  24. [23:50] <New_Edom> then I'll ban you from this channel and the region, Prem.
  25. [23:50] <Premislyd> Seems rather drastic over such a simple thing
  26. [23:50] <Premislyd> You nede to learn to not take things so personal
  27. [23:50] <Premislyd> need*
  28. [23:50] <Premislyd> Relax a little
  29. [23:51] <Premislyd> Have fun
  30. [23:51] <New_Edom> I am relaxed.
  31. [23:51] <New_Edom> However you're clearly not interested in cooperating with me.
  32. [23:51] <Premislyd> Because I've seen how you act when you don't get your way
  33. [23:51] <New_Edom> Then why would you even want to be around? I have no time for people who've already judgeed me and won't cooperate. Make a choice and make it now.
  34. [23:53] <Premislyd> Do you really want to know why?
  35. [23:53] <New_Edom> Go ahead.
  36. [23:54] <Premislyd> Because, unlike the majority of Pardes2 who can't stand you and Rie, I still quite enjoy hanging around
  37. [23:55] <New_Edom> Well, you can do that without sniping at my very reasonable authority. So you still need to make a choice.
  38. [23:55] <Premislyd> See, that's where we have a problem
  39. [23:56] <Premislyd> You seem to think that since you're the founder that everybody needs to follow you without asking any questions
  40. [23:56] <Premislyd> As founder do you have some weight as leader? Yes
  41. [23:56] <New_Edom> What exactly do I ask of people?
  42. [23:56] <Premislyd> But not as much as you think
  43. [23:56] <New_Edom> Actually Prem, I can throw you out of the region, ban you, take you out of the IRC chat.
  44. [23:57] <Premislyd> Which, to be frank, would be rather dickish to do over a little thing like this
  45. [23:57] <Premislyd> You really need to stop taking things so personally
  46. [23:57] <New_Edom> What exactly do I ask of you as regional founder?
  47. [23:57] <New_Edom> Like what onerous tasks do I ask of you?
  48. [23:57] <Premislyd> None yet
  49. [23:58] <Premislyd> But you have this superior, arrogant attitude
  50. [23:58] <New_Edom> So basically you're calling me a tyrant for--asking nothing of you.
  51. [23:59] <New_Edom> Basically Prem, what I do is arbitrate, mostly. I have yet to simply force people to accept decisions they didn't want as a group. I constantly seek consensus.
  52. [23:59] <Premislyd> But even then
  53. [23:59] <New_Edom> Even then what?
  54. [23:59] <Premislyd> You rant and essentially throw a temper tanrum when your way isn't chosen
  55. [23:59] <Premislyd> tantrum*
  56. [23:59] <New_Edom> hey if you don't like hanging out with me, then don't.
  57. [23:59] <Premislyd> Now Idk if it's from the stress of your grandmother
  58. [00:00] <Premislyd> Or something else
  59. [00:00] <Premislyd> But you've changed a /lot/ since Xanadou bro
  60. [00:00] <New_Edom> I don't believe I have been ranting at all in Cornellia. My intent is to have a region that works, and is worth the time spent on it.
  61. [00:01] <Premislyd> And that works by having /everybody/ contribute instead of you "arbitrating"
  62. [00:01] <New_Edom> what do you think arbitration is?
  63. [00:01] <New_Edom> arbitration is where everyone has their say, and one person contributes by helping them reach consensus. That is what I am doing.
  64. [00:02] <Premislyd> Yes, but by forcing your own way as opposed to one chosen by the group
  65. [00:02] <New_Edom> I in fact constantly encourage everyone to contribute to decision making.
  66. [00:02] <New_Edom> You know what--if you have this terrible opinion of me nothing I say will make the slightest difference.
  67. [00:02] <Premislyd> Yes, but tbh, it doesn't even faintly seem like you pay any attention to them
  68. [00:02] <New_Edom> why don't we have a poll?
  69. [00:02] <New_Edom> See how everyone else feels about it?
  70. [00:03] <New_Edom> Because to be honest, it seems like you're just stirring up trouble.
  71. [00:03] <Premislyd> You said the same thing about Oss
  72. [00:03] <New_Edom> Why don't we ask the others in the channel right now?
  73. [00:03] <New_Edom> And frankly I feel that he was, whether that was his intention or not.
  74. [00:03] <Premislyd> See
  75. [00:03] <Premislyd> You need to get out of that attitude
  76. [00:03] <New_Edom> Let's have this out in the channel.
  77. [00:04] <Premislyd> Why?
  78. [00:04] <Premislyd> This doesn't involve any of the other people?
  79. [00:04] <New_Edom> Because you say that it is what I generally do.
  80. [00:04] <New_Edom> That it affects other people. You are attacking my reputation.
  81. [00:04] <New_Edom> I will not tolerate it.
  82. [00:04] <Premislyd> lrn2read pl0x
  83. [00:05] <Premislyd> I never said anything about your reputation
  84. [00:05] <New_Edom> Channel time.
  85. [00:05] <Premislyd> You're making accusations
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