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- Kirb R1
- Kokushibu vs Sabretooth
- * Koku swings fast and has good AOE piercing, allowing him to easily decapitate Sabre
- * Sabre's speed relies on scaling and he is ineffective in using his speed
- * When facing another regenerator, he cuts their torso and then their head, meeting the win condition for Sabre
- Morel vs Shishio
- * Morel avoids direct conflict and aims for an alternative method of victory
- * Morel's smoke gives him a huge advantage through situational awareness, clones, vision obscuring, etc.
- * Shishio's heat issue will be accidentally achieved from Morel's caution
- * Morel is a good brick
- Saito vs Captain America
- * Gatotsu is fast and strong
- * Cap wouldn't expect such a fast stab and his bullet timing feat was done when he was prepared
- * Cap prefers the kite shield which fares worse against Saito
- ***
- Corv R1
- Kokushibu vs Sabretooth
- * Sabre strong and fast
- * Koku's opening attacks can all be parried or block which is all something Sabre is capable of thanks to his adamantium claws
- * Sabre has good endurance and can reattatch limbs
- * Kirb admits a punch from NW would decapitate Koku, Sabre hits harder than NW
- * It's in character for Sabre to decapitate
- * Sabre knows the best way to deal with regenerators is by decapitation
- * Koku blocking leads to his sword getting destroyed and him getting overwhelmed
- Morel vs Shishio
- * Shishio hits hard, is fast, and durable
- * Morel commonly opens up with melee
- * Smoke is useless as Morel will engage in melee and his clones are weak
- * In melee, Shishio dominates with his superior stats and piercing
- Saito vs Captain America
- * Cap strong, fast, and durable
- * Hydra Cap used the kite shield over the round shield as part of his impersonation of the real Cap
- * Both shields would one shot Saito and he lacks the dodging feats to avoid it
- * Shield durable
- * The kite shield can still block Gatotsu and having two shields increases his defense
- ***
- Kirb R2
- Kokushibu vs Sabretooth
- * Scaling to Iron Fist doesn't work as the speed feats happened much after IF's fight with Sabre and he was amped in those speed feats
- * Getting dismembered would still negatively impact Sabre
- * Koku will most likely open up with decapitation while Sabre has only done so against robots
- * AOEs kill
- * The scans showing Koku's sword be broken is fake
- * Koku's sword can regen fast
- * Sabre's claws are too small to safely block Koku
- * Drinking Koku's blood would fuck Sabre up
- Morel vs Shishio
- * Morel opening with melee is fake and has mitigating context
- * Scaling to Saito doesn't work
- * Shishio has been tagged by slower hits
- * Scaling to injured opponents is shaky
- * Shishio dies after fighting too long
- Saito vs Captain America
- * Reiterates the Cap was prepared argument and that Gatotsu is fast
- * Cap has never used two shields at once
- * While Hydra Cap is willing to kill, he doesn't open up with a lethal blow
- * Saito does dodge
- *Hydra Cap has speed antifeats
- ***
- Corv R2
- Kokushibu vs Sabretooth
- * Kirb's argument against the Iron Fist scaling is irrelevant as Corv is scaling to a chi-less IF
- * Kirb has to prove that IF's chi amp applies to the physicals of a chi-less IF
- * Being able to successfully dodge every attack from Nightcrawler would be OOT
- * Koku can't effectively fight Sabre the way Nightcrawler does
- * The fall object feat is meaningless as it's a movement speed antifeat which won't matter in this fight
- * Blocking being irrelevant against Koku is specifically only an issue for Kimetsu characters since they can't safely tank, block, or heal
- * While Sabre's range is smaller than a sword, it's still indestructible and he can use his whole arm to block
- * Koku can't cut through Sabre as his sword would break against the adamantium bones and Sabre would then just one shot
- * Sabre would just accidentally achieve the decapitation win con with a regular punch to the face
- * Sabre would actually benefit from Koku's blood
- * Koku's main speed feat is vague and bad
- * Koku's other bullet timing feat is too far to be good
- Morel vs Shishio
- * Disqualifying the Cheetu scan because his goal wasn't to kill Cheetu disqualifies many of Morel's fights, so the only ones left are ones where he opens up with melee
- * Morel will open up with melee
- * Zero-Shiki is fast and so is the Gatotsu it's being scaled against
- * Morel is slow
- * Morel probably wouldn't use Deep Purple
- Saito vs Captain America
- * It is logical that Cap would use two shields
- * The preparation argument applies to Saito as well
- * Saito has struggled against a lesser shield user before and Cap has been shown to do what that shield user did and is also better
- * Saito challenged the shield head on thinking there's nothing his sword can't pierce, so if he does this against Cap, his sword gets broken
- * Saito gets hit by something with no given speed, so he gets destroyed by Cap
- * It's in character for Cap to throw his shield directly at someone
- * Saito's bullet timing scaling is bad
- * The antifeats against Cap have mitigating context
- ***
- Judgments
- Kokushibu vs Sabretooth
- Sabretooth wins. Corvette successfully convinced how Sabretooth will meet the decapitation win condition against Kokushibu. Koku's opener of trying to dismember his opponents fails against Sabre as his sword would break against the adamantium bones and leave Koku open to being one shot in the head by Sabre. Kirb's arguments against Sabretooth's speed were unconvincing as while the large gap in years between Sabre's fight against Iron Fist and Iron Fist's bullet timing is a good point, by itself it's not strong enough and Kirb should've backed it up with antifeats or other examples on why the Iron Fist scaling doesn't work. I also agreed with Corv on how vague Koku's main speed feat is and how his other bullet timing feat is just plain bad due to its distance.
- Morel vs Shishio
- Morel wins. I believe Kirb effectively debunked the claim that Morel would immediately open up with melee and as Corv's entire argument hinges on them engaging with melee, it's clear to me that Morel wins. Shishio would struggle to find Morel through the smoke and eventually just burns himself out.
- Saito vs Captain America
- Captain America wins. Corv's shield evidence was an incredibly good counter towards Saito's Gatotsu and it shows how cocky Saito is about the effectiveness of his piercing, which will only lead to his sword breaking itself against Cap's shield. Kirb's arguments against the effectiveness of the kite shield fell flat to me as like Corv argues, Captain America doesn't need to defend his whole body against Saito, only the spot Saito's trying to stab. Another argument of Kirb's that didn't work was the preparedness argument used to downplay Captain America's reflexes as that's a two way road and can be easily used on Saito. While I agree Cap wins through his multiple win conditions whether by his strength, lasers, or shield toss, I was unconvinced by Corv's claims that Captain America goes his shield fast. He only gives examples of the shield toss being strong but gives no scans to prove their speed. I feel like Kirb should've focused his argument on this instead of claiming Captain America wouldn't open up with a shield toss, which effectively shut down by Corv.
- Corv wins 2-1
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