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  1. Compilation of Torchat Logs Seized from Ulbricht Laptop Reflecting
  2. Communications with SA Force (“Nob”), “Inigo” and “Cimon”
  3. Between January 26, 2013 at 3:39 a.m. and January 29, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.1
  4.  
  5. Torchat communications between Ulbricht and SA Force (“Nob”) are included in their entirety for this designated
  6. time period. Torchat ommunications between Ulbricht and “Inigo”/”Cimon” are excerpts of relvant portions
  7. regarding the theft of Bitcoins by Curtis Green, a/k/a “Flush.”
  8.  
  9. (2013-01-26 03:39) inigo (laptop): [delayed] i hope you get online soon.
  10. we are under attack over 100k stolen, shits hitting the fan you need to
  11. pull the plug on withdrawals
  12. [delayed] over 300k stolen. i think i figured out how to contain it.
  13. [delayed] as far as I can tell it was flush, and he managed to steal a
  14. little over $350k
  15. [delayed] either that or somebody with access to his account
  16. [delayed] but my hunch is that it was him.
  17. [delayed] fortunately i was able to stop it before it got any further
  18. [delayed] looks like he took 900bitcoins from the petty cash fund, and the
  19. rest by changing vendors passwords and resetting their pins, and then
  20. logging into their accounts to wipe out their balances
  21. [delayed] ive been up all night frantically trying to stop this massive
  22. theft, i need to catch a few zzz's
  23. [delayed] ill be back on in a few hours. hopefully in time to see you get
  24. online
  25. (2013-01-26 03:41) myself: you there?
  26. (2013-01-26 04:47) myself: yea, this makes me sick to my stomache. I
  27. decrypted his ID and did some digging. He was arrested for cocaine
  28. posession last week. I think this stuff about his daughter was a tale.
  29. This will be the first time I have had to call on my muscle. fucking
  30. sucks.
  31.  
  32. (2013-01-26 10:42) Nob: [delayed] my friend you up
  33. (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: i am
  34. (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: how are you amigo?
  35. (2013-01-26 10:43) Nob: I'm tired D, real tired
  36. (2013-01-26 10:44) myself: not enough sleep?
  37. (2013-01-26 10:44) Nob: no I'm working too hard. overseeing three good
  38. size loads coming from South America up here into U.S.
  39. (2013-01-26 10:45) myself: lots of people to coordinate?
  40. (2013-01-26 10:46) Nob: yes, heah i just saw your message on SR
  41. (2013-01-26 10:46) myself: yea, not a ton of money, but it pisses me off
  42. to no end. I trusted the guy too much
  43. (2013-01-26 10:47) Nob: ok, who is it and where is he
  44. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: ill send you his ID
  45. (2013-01-26 10:48) Nob: how?
  46. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: I had him send it to me when I hired him
  47. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: for just this kind of situation
  48. (2013-01-26 10:49) myself: he was recently arrested for cocaine possession
  49. on Jan 17th
  50. (2013-01-26 10:50) Nob: that wasn't the kilo that I sent was it. because
  51. I'm going to be pissed
  52. (2013-01-26 10:50) myself: did you send it to UTAH?
  53. (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes, it's an address that googleyed gave to me.
  54. and i'm having problems with him/her
  55. (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: are you serious!
  56. (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes what the mierda
  57. (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: mierda?
  58. (2013-01-26 10:53) Nob: what you want done? what the fuck is up with the
  59. googleyed. i don't need this shit
  60. (2013-01-26 10:54) Nob: and who is the frickin idiot?
  61. (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: I'm incredibly sorry nob, but this guy on the
  62. ID
  63. (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: he's the one I asked to set you up with vendors
  64. (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he must have somehow tricked you into sending
  65. the kilo to him instead of googleyed
  66. (2013-01-26 10:55) Nob: ok what do you want done with him?
  67. (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he then took advantage of some of the tools I
  68. gave him to do vendor support to rip a bunch of vendors off, who I will
  69. have to compensate
  70. (2013-01-26 10:56) Nob: i'm not worried. i didn't send it out. but
  71. googleyed worries me. you sure he/she is ok?
  72. (2013-01-26 10:56) inigo (laptop): im back online now
  73. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I'm not sure about googleyed. they were locked
  74. out of their account by this guy 24 hours ago
  75. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: more like 12 hours ago
  76. (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): if you want me to get on a plane and go
  77. find him, just say the word
  78. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I have someone on it
  79. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: thank you though
  80. (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): i really wish i could have figured it
  81. out faster and stopped him before he took so much
  82. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: you didn't send the kilo? or are you talking
  83. about a second order?
  84. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): i noticed it as soon as he started,
  85. luckily, but it took me a few hours to figure out what was happeneing and
  86. realize how to stop it
  87. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: how did you stop it?
  88. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): by resetting the password to his
  89. account
  90. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: oh, smart
  91. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): as soon as i did that the stealing
  92. stopped
  93. (2013-01-26 10:59) Nob: i sent the kilo and G-eyed did pay so. G-eyed is
  94. talking about doing a second order for five kilos to the UK.
  95. (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: you sent one kilo to the utah address?
  96. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): i was watching the bitcoin address that
  97. he was sending all the coins to
  98. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): 20000 btc by the time i cut off his
  99. admin access
  100. (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: I even had the thought that I was putting too
  101. much trust in you guys and should give one pin reset power and the other
  102. pass reset power
  103. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): that would have been a good idea
  104. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i wish i had a kill switch
  105. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): for the site
  106. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): or for withdrawals at least
  107. (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: withdrawals at least
  108. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i could have stopped it at under $60k
  109. (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: yea, a w/d kill switch is a good idea
  110. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): im sorry it got so far. but i hate to
  111. think how much more he could have stolen
  112. (2013-01-26 11:01) inigo (laptop): i just wish i could have been faster
  113. (2013-01-26 11:02) inigo (laptop): 350k is a lot of money. it will take
  114. him a while to cash it all out. if we can find him first maybe something
  115. can be done
  116. (2013-01-26 11:03) Nob: yes a utah address, but like i said; i didn't send
  117. it so i'll have to reach out and get the exact address
  118. (2013-01-26 11:03) myself: let me see if I understand...
  119. (2013-01-26 11:04) Nob: i had my people send it. i never touch the dope
  120. (2013-01-26 11:04) myself: you sent a kilo to geyed, which he received.
  121. where did you send that one? who asked for the kilo to utah?
  122. (2013-01-26 11:04) inigo (laptop): it was sheer luck that i noticed it, i
  123. had sent my coins to sugar mama to cash out my paycheck, and i kept
  124. looking her up to see if she was back online because im flat broke and was
  125. really antsy for her to send me the MP codes (which she still hasnt done
  126. thanks to this mess) and then i noticed her balance drop to 0, and she
  127. made a forum post about it
  128. (2013-01-26 11:05) Nob: googleyed gave me an address in utah to send the
  129. kilo. googleyed requested that the kilo go to utah.
  130. (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): so i started to investigate, searched
  131. the bitcoin address that her coins were withdrawn to, and noticed that 4
  132. top vendors had withdrawn to the same address
  133. (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): about 1000 bitcoins from each
  134. (2013-01-26 11:06) Nob: g-eyed said she got it that is why she finalized,
  135. but he/she isn't leaving feedback on SR which is pissing me off
  136. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): then i started talking with sugar mama
  137. and figured out that her pin and pass had been reset, and that led me to
  138. realize it was someone with admin access and not a virus or malicous code
  139. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): so then i just thought the best shot i
  140. had to stop it was reset flush's password
  141. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): cut off his admin access
  142. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: where was the first kilo sent?
  143. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: was it ireland?
  144. (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: to utah
  145. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: do you have the exact address?
  146. (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: next five kilos are supposed to go to ireland
  147. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: does it match the id?
  148. (2013-01-26 11:08) myself: ok, don't send them until I get to the bottom
  149. of this
  150. (2013-01-26 11:08) Nob: i have to call back to my guy who sent the kilo
  151. for me
  152. (2013-01-26 11:08) inigo (laptop): by then his address had racked up 20k
  153. btc
  154. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): also, what really led me to thinking it
  155. was him, was the fact that sealswithclubs got ddos'd yesterday
  156. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and was held at ransom
  157. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: oh damn
  158. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and theres only one person i know with
  159. ties to SR and sealswithclubs
  160. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: what sleaze
  161. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): flush told me that he knew the owner
  162. really well
  163. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: he told me that too
  164. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): yeah so he must have organized an
  165. attack on his site as well
  166. (2013-01-26 11:10) Nob: yes, i need you to let me know what is going on
  167. (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): some desperate attempt to get as much
  168. as he could in one day
  169. (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): fucking scumbag
  170. (2013-01-26 11:10) myself: so, I have a friend that smuggles heroin for
  171. cartels. I'm chatting with him now. he has muscle everywhere and will
  172. get to him quickly.
  173. (2013-01-26 11:11) myself: I will. what do you want to do about Curtis
  174. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): ah you must be referring to the guy
  175. that was offering free full auto AR's with his heroin
  176. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): the guy with ties to FARC
  177. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): nob or something like that
  178. (2013-01-26 11:12) myself: If you can get someone to force him to return
  179. the stolen funds, that would be amazing
  180. (2013-01-26 11:12) Nob: personally, I don't want any contact. i'm clear.
  181. if you want something done, i can help you discreetly
  182. (2013-01-26 11:12) inigo (laptop): if thats who your talking about, then
  183. he would seem like the perfect person for the job
  184. (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: what do you mean?
  185. (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: this is someone else
  186. (2013-01-26 11:13) inigo (laptop): oh ok
  187. (2013-01-26 11:14) inigo (laptop): i can't believe he pulled this. some
  188. people are hard to read
  189. (2013-01-26 11:15) Nob: do you want him beat up. shot, just paid a visit?
  190. (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): so just out of curiousity i pulled up
  191. the messages from "chronicpain" since he revealed thats who he used to be
  192. (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): he was logged in 17 hours ago
  193. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: I'd like him beat up, then forced to send the
  194. bitcoins he stole back. like sit him down at his computer and make him do
  195. it
  196. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: beat up only if he doesn't comply I guess
  197. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: not sure how these things usually go
  198. (2013-01-26 11:18) Nob: remember that guy in Africa? you wanted me to put
  199. a gun to that guy's head while he is logged on SR and take a picture. you
  200. want that?
  201. (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: no thanks
  202. (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: just don't want him to have that money
  203. (2013-01-26 11:19) Nob: ok, you just want him beat up and send you money
  204. back; the guy I'm going to send knows nothing about computers so he won't
  205. know whether or not the mark has the funds or even if he sent it
  206. (2013-01-26 11:20) myself: we could give him a letter to give curtis
  207. (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: so the message doesn't get mixed up
  208. (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: and if I know when he is paying him a visit, I
  209. can tell him to log on to torchat to talk to me while your man is there
  210. (2013-01-26 11:22) myself: so I can be loged in when he goes to his house
  211. (2013-01-26 11:22) Nob: ok, you write the letter and send it to me. i'll
  212. get the exact address where the kilo was sent. please check into
  213. googleyed, this doesn't make sense to me
  214. (2013-01-26 11:23) myself: ok
  215. (2013-01-26 11:23) Nob: just forget about googleyed, i'm cutting ties
  216. (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: be back in contact later today or tomorrow; stay
  217. out of trouble, i can't loose you now
  218. (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: should be can't lose you now, frickin spanish to
  219. english bullshit ... so tired can't think straight
  220. (2013-01-26 11:24) myself: how quickly do you think you can get someone
  221. over there? and what does that cost you? is it worth the hassle?
  222. (2013-01-26 11:25) Nob: not sure. it is going to cost money because it's
  223. not my people
  224. (2013-01-26 11:26) myself: ok, if it costs more than we can recover, then
  225. obviously we should not go through with it
  226. (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: shit, shit, shit; we don't need this, one step
  227. forward, two steps back
  228. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: i know, it's a pain
  229. (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: ok talk at you
  230. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: we don't have to do anything if you don't want
  231. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: talk to you soon
  232. (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: ok, i'll let you know
  233. (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: i'm confident that I'm clear; googleyed on the
  234. other hand
  235. (2013-01-26 11:29) inigo (laptop): weird
  236. (2013-01-26 11:32) inigo (laptop): flush has to be an idiot to steal from
  237. you knowing that you know where he lives. he must be going on the run
  238. (2013-01-26 11:32) myself: maybe so
  239. (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: i assumed that would be enough to deter him
  240. from doing anything like this
  241. (2013-01-26 11:33) inigo (laptop): you may need to hire some private eyes
  242. to find him. somebody thats a pro in finding fugatives and missing people
  243. (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: yea
  244. (2013-01-26 11:34) inigo (laptop): like i said if need be you always have
  245. me at your disposal if you locate him and need somebody to go handle it
  246. (2013-01-26 11:35) myself: thanks. I want to go kick his ass myself, but
  247. let's leave it to the pros
  248. (2013-01-26 11:35) inigo (laptop): k
  249. (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: here's the note
  250. (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: Curtis,
  251. Send the bitcoins you stole to the following address immediately:
  252. 1p6QfxXEdHTFPkVPx1nFJXqpfiyEKXBNG
  253. Tell the person who just gave you this note after one confirmation on the
  254. blockchain.
  255. -DPR
  256. (2013-01-26 11:47) myself: then we'd have to get the guy to give us
  257. confirmation so we can check the blockchain.
  258. (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: I'd actually like to go through with this even
  259. if it costs more than we can recover. I would like the experience in case
  260. something like this happens again.
  261. (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: you there?
  262. (2013-01-26 11:48) inigo (laptop): yep
  263. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, let's tackle the support page until we have
  264. everything zeroed
  265. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: what are you working on right now?
  266. (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): customer messages
  267. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, I'll do vendor messages
  268. (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): k
  269. (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: ok got it. i'll get back to you with address and
  270. see if I can get a "friend" over to visit your guy
  271. (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: ok
  272. (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: thanks nob
  273. (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: no problem my friend. te amo
  274. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: while I'm fixing this...
  275. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: your with me right inigo?
  276. (2013-01-26 13:24) inigo (laptop): yes sir
  277. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: i mean... long term
  278. (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: I don't know what I'm doing wrong
  279. (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: or if im doing anything wrong
  280. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): oh yeah absolutely. i swore my loyalty
  281. to you
  282. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): and i will stick by that
  283. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): i take pride in my loyalty above all my
  284. other characteristics
  285. (2013-01-26 13:26) inigo (laptop): where i lack in other fields, you'll at
  286. least get your value out of me by having somebody loyal for life :)
  287. (2013-01-26 13:26) myself: thank you
  288. (2013-01-26 13:27) inigo (laptop): you've given me a chance at a
  289. financially secure future that i didn't have before. while flush may have
  290. been a greedy scumbag, im here for the long run, if anything just to show
  291. my graditude
  292. (2013-01-26 13:28) myself: maybe guys like us are just rarer than I'd
  293. hoped
  294. (2013-01-26 13:29) inigo (laptop): he clearly didn't want to wait, and
  295. wanted to get rich quick. im willing to put in the long hours now and even
  296. stuggle a little bit financially, because i know that in the long run it
  297. will pay off and in a few years i figure ill be making enough that i wont
  298. have to worry about money
  299. (2013-01-26 13:30) inigo (laptop): [delayed] even if its 5-10 years from
  300. now, i see the long run opportunity
  301. (2013-01-26 13:31) myself: that's good, so do I, obviously.
  302. (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): ive only been with you for three
  303. months, so i don't expect to have a new car and a nice place to live and
  304. all that good stuff just yet. im willing to earn it.
  305. (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): what other details did you find out
  306. about flush's arrest?
  307. (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): did it say how much he was caught with?
  308. (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: I haven't dug into it yet
  309. (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): yeah i guess its pretty early
  310. (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: we want to move quickly, but I gave the whole
  311. mess over to my guy
  312. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): just to confirm that he gave you his
  313. real ID, i was able to aquire what i believe to be his identity from the
  314. info he revealed to me
  315. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: oh really?
  316. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): i made him as Curtis Green from
  317. , Utag
  318. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): utah
  319. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: yep
  320. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: how'd you manage that?
  321. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): ok good so that wasn't a fake id
  322. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): he told me about this website that he
  323. owns
  324. (2013-01-26 13:36) myself: what is it?
  325. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): .com
  326. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): he was trying to recuit me to this
  327. multi level marketing scam
  328. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): so today i looked up who owns that site
  329. (2013-01-26 13:37) myself: this guy is an idiot
  330. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): he also owns a company called anytime
  331. airport shuttle or something like that
  332. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): yeah
  333. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i found his twitter account too
  334. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): had a picture of the SR logo as his
  335. profile pic
  336. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i couldn't believe it
  337. (2013-01-26 13:38) inigo (laptop): hasn't made an update since jan 5th tho
  338. (2013-01-26 13:39) myself: what's the name of the twitter account?
  339. (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): one sec
  340. (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): https://twitter.com/
  341. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): that twitter page also links to his
  342. dads charity's website that he manages
  343. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): .com
  344. (2013-01-26 13:40) myself: the more you can give me the better
  345. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): he frequents poker tournys in vegas
  346. (2013-01-26 13:42) inigo (laptop): he owns the email address
  347. indolor12@yahoo.com
  348. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): although i couldn't find a record of
  349. that email anywhere online
  350. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): seemed to be a dead end lead
  351. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): idk what the address on his ID is, but
  352. i have him at
  353. (2013-01-26 13:44) myself: that's the same
  354. (2013-01-26 13:45) inigo (laptop): i also have two previous addresses
  355. associated with his name:
  356. (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): here's his amazon wishlist:
  357. http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=
  358. (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): lol
  359. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i think his daughter's name is
  360. and his wife's name is
  361. (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: how do you know that?
  362. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop):
  363. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i have a subscription
  364. (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: whats that?
  365. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): for situaitons like this
  366. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): its a website that pulls up info on
  367. people
  368. (2013-01-26 13:48) myself: oh ok
  369. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): previous addresses, relatives
  370. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): etc
  371. (2013-01-26 13:51) inigo (laptop): my grandparents on my dads side live in
  372. vegas, they're both in their 90's living on their own with lots of health
  373. problems, if he turns up at some poker tourny out there i could kill two
  374. birds with one stone by visiting them and doing some reconossaince mission
  375. on our friend curtis here lol. just keep that in mind in case the
  376. opportunity arrises
  377. (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: be on the look out for vendors screwed by flush
  378. trying to get back in
  379. (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: those ones i mentioned before
  380. (2013-01-26 16:36) inigo (laptop): will do
  381. (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i found the account that he was sending
  382. the password resets to last night. i dont know if that helps, but it gave
  383. me a list of all the vendors he screwed
  384. (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i guess you have that same list tho
  385. (2013-01-26 16:37) myself: yea, I dug through all that as well
  386. (2013-01-26 16:38) inigo (laptop): ok
  387. (2013-01-26 20:00) cimon: Hey there, sexy man. Come in, welcome, buy me a
  388. drink.
  389. (2013-01-26 20:37) myself: [delayed] sup sup
  390. (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed] oops missed ya. had a little mishap
  391. today I need to run by you. had a csr go rogue and rip me off for $350k
  392. (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed messages have been sent]
  393. (2013-01-27 00:42) myself: hey, you around?
  394. (2013-01-27 00:43) cimon: yes, give me 5 mins first
  395. (2013-01-27 00:43) myself: no rush
  396. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: OK. Howdy, doodie.
  397. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: 350k, eh
  398. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: fucker
  399. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: yea, I didn't expect him to do it because I
  400. have his id
  401. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: REALLY
  402. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: but I left myself open to it
  403. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: well, tell me a tale Uncle Robert
  404. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: gave him pin and password reset capabilities.
  405. it was dumb
  406. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: ahh - I follow
  407. (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: enough about the theft, tell me about the organ
  408. donor
  409. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: I even though I shouldn't, but then I thought,
  410. since i have the id, he'd never do it
  411. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: and he did
  412. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: you wanna see his id?
  413. (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: How sure are you it's really his ID
  414. (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: oh yeah, I'm gonna have a chat with him
  415. (2013-01-27 00:50) myself: pretty damn sure
  416. (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: <-- could use some exercise
  417. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: the story gets moreinteresting
  418. (2013-01-27 00:51) cimon: Well, I'm sure we can tell the diff IRL in real
  419. life betwen some schmoe who has his info lifted, and a guy who's on tor
  420. and also just got 350 k
  421. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: its deffo him
  422. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: unless he's super clever
  423. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: and he isnt
  424. (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: yeah, that ID looks pretty good
  425. (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: the other csr confirmed alot
  426. (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: have you run any online searches to see if you
  427. can match the addy
  428. (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: lemme tell you the rest of the story
  429. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: nob has been bugging me off and on
  430. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: since you last spoke to him
  431. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: checking in every few weeks
  432. (2013-01-27 00:53) cimon: Gor for it, I'm gonna have me an afternoon
  433. spliff before my nap -- Davids truck broke down, so I'm running the bar
  434. until 4 am tonight
  435. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i told him I'd find him a buyer from the
  436. current vendors
  437. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i put this guy on the task
  438. (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: curtis
  439. (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: i haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet, but
  440. somehow he impersonated googleyed or something and got nob to ship him a
  441. key of columbias finest
  442. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: now if you google his name, one of the first
  443. things that comes up is an arrest on Jan 17
  444. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: for cocaine posession
  445. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: like 10 days ago
  446. (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: fuck
  447. (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: I know, right?
  448. (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: <-- is pissin self
  449. (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: so nob is pissed. I gave him his info when he
  450. asked for it
  451. (2013-01-27 00:57) myself: he won't do anything without my go though, I
  452. don't think
  453. (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: yeah, he's been busted for coke. Write off the
  454. money, no way I'd send anyone in there, or go myself, with that kind of
  455. heat, especially since he may still roll on SR for leniency.
  456. (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: ok
  457. (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: i just hate getting ripped off
  458. (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: HOWEVER, it certainly fucking gives nob a wee
  459. bit o' credibility.
  460. (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: yea, nobs legit, but not quite as big time as
  461. he was making himself out to be
  462. (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: Oh, I have a long memory, and the time to deal
  463. with Curtis is after he's out of his current predicament.
  464. (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: I'll get on tracking him
  465. (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: says he makes 25 mil a year
  466. (2013-01-27 01:00) myself: yea, but that money won't last long
  467. (2013-01-27 01:04) cimon: Sorry, back to Curtis for a sec. Since Smed is
  468. behind, instead of having Irish come out here in a few days, I can have
  469. him skip to Utah and see if this whole Curtis thing smells at all. Dumb
  470. Irishmen that can't use a smart phone don't fit our profile, so I'm sure
  471. he'd be cool.
  472. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: that's fine with me
  473. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: would be good to put eyeballs on this guy
  474. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: he may be in a jail cell for all we know though
  475. (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: Irish always knows a guy who knows a guy, we'd
  476. get a better handle on what's going on.
  477. (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: I'd be most curious about his living
  478. arrangements, did they go nuts seizing computer stuff, or just grab the
  479. guy and the drugs. Gotta talk to the neighbors, man, ya *always* gotta
  480. talk to the neighbors.
  481. (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: It's the shit that happened AFTER the bust that
  482. tells us what they're looking at now
  483. (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: when did he liberate the 350
  484. (2013-01-27 01:08) myself: lemme get an exact
  485. (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: around
  486. (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: January 26, 2013, 8:50 am UTC
  487. (2013-01-27 01:09) cimon: So he ain't in jail
  488. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: and his computer shit wasn't taken
  489. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: so the feds have no linke there. Yet. He still
  490. has lots of time to deal.
  491. (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: so he must be out on bail?
  492. (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: he might be fleeing
  493. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: One would think.
  494. (2013-01-27 01:11) cimon: well, he does have 350k, but it takes time to
  495. clear that, so he may be holding fast until he can get it out.
  496. (2013-01-27 01:11) myself: but with an arrest, seems like it would be hard
  497. to flee
  498. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: he sent the money to one address
  499. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: 127B3qwztPyA67uq63LG8G5izwhFcJ7j4A
  500. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: which still has 15k on it
  501. (2013-01-27 01:13) cimon: As a side note, at what point in time do we
  502. decide we've had enough of someones shit, and terminate them? Like, does
  503. impersonating a vendor to rip off a mid-level drug lord, using our rep and
  504. system; follows up by stealing from our vendors and clients and breeding
  505. fear and mis-trust, does that come close in yer opinion?
  506. (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: terminate?
  507. (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: execute?
  508. (2013-01-27 01:14) cimon: Not to mention that whole common law breach of
  509. fiduciary duties and duty of care
  510. (2013-01-27 01:15) myself: if this was the wild west, and it kinda is,
  511. you'd get hung just for stealing a horse
  512. (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: Yeah, pretty much. At what point in time is that
  513. the response. We're playing with big money with serious people, and that's
  514. the world they live in.
  515. (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: I sure as fuck don't want nob to try it, fuck
  516. up, and then have our laundry aired.
  517. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: unfortunately, there isn't much inbetween
  518. (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: I know a guy, and he knows a guy who knows a
  519. guy, that gets things done.
  520. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: in a perfect world, we'd get the money back,
  521. plus our expenses and maybe beat him up or something
  522. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: but that's not realistic
  523. (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: Nope. And it ain't the money, fuck, it's your
  524. fault, no one elses. Someday I'll tell you a long story from a guy who
  525. explained to me why situations like this are always yer own fault.
  526. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: so yea, it's a good quesiton I've been thinking
  527. about the last 24 hours
  528. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: oh it's my fault. I even thought of it before
  529. it happened
  530. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: I could've taken 5 minutes and separated powers
  531. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: i thought too much of him
  532. (2013-01-27 01:18) cimon: But he came at us from inside, put many folks at
  533. risk, and facing a serious felony he's def the kind of guy that would seel
  534. what little he knows for a break with the Feebs
  535. (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: that's true
  536. (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: he doesn't know much
  537. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: you don't log chat do you?
  538. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): of course not
  539. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): that was the first thing you told me
  540. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: ok good. I was just thinking about it flush
  541. did
  542. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): on day 1
  543. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): are you serious?
  544. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: but I've chatted with him quite a bit. he
  545. could have logs
  546. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: he is facing charges right now
  547. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: yea, I dont know for sure
  548. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): he really logged everything?
  549. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): fuckkk him
  550. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: no, just speculating that he might have
  551. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
  552. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): i think it tells you when your being
  553. logged by another user
  554. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): at least i thought it did
  555. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: it doesn't
  556. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): maybe not
  557. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
  558. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): damn
  559. (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: Dude, he was a CSR that could read PMs, reset
  560. passwords, mebbe harvest addys while emptying accounts, etc., etc. He was
  561. smart enough to impersonate gooly-dick, take nob for some marching powder,
  562. and all with yer assistance.
  563. (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: yeah, and chat logs
  564. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): he would probably be quick to tell them
  565. everything he knows
  566. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): about SR
  567. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): as leverage
  568. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): they probably would love to get an
  569. inside scoop
  570. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): to pick his brain
  571. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: exactly
  572. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: they may have already
  573. (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: So, you've had your time to think. You're
  574. sitting in the big chair, and you need to make a decision. Now, really,
  575. things could move fast in the future.
  576. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: I would have no problem wasting this guy
  577. (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: Well ok then, I'll take care of it.
  578. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): i don't condone murder but thats almost
  579. worthy of assasinating him over lol
  580. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: well, this is the wild west inigo
  581. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: they used to hang cattle theives
  582. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): there are certain rules to the
  583. underworld. and problems can sometimes only be handled one way
  584. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): thats true
  585. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: do you mind keeping me abreast
  586. (2013-01-27 01:22) cimon: So, other than that, how's your weekend going?
  587. (2013-01-27 01:23) inigo (laptop): sometimes its the only solution
  588. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: hopefully it won't come to that
  589. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: i wish the best for people in general
  590. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: and love them
  591. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: even flush
  592. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: it's good
  593. (2013-01-27 01:23) cimon: we'll have 2 opportunies to change gears.
  594. 1- find the fucker and report.
  595. 2- find out what the local skinny is on the guy, gather as much humint
  596. as possible and report.
  597. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): mighty big of you
  598. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): but for the security and future of this
  599. enterprise, he may be too much of a liability
  600. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: yea, i'm getting advise now
  601. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): i guess you'll have to weigh what he
  602. knows
  603. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: been having fun interspersed with putting out
  604. fires
  605. (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: 3- wait for a go or a no-go.
  606. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: ok
  607. (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: yeah, I had a great/fucking exhasuting and
  608. exhasperating few days
  609. (2013-01-27 01:25) inigo (laptop): i can only imagine the kind of person
  610. you turn to for advice
  611. (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): at least for a situation like this
  612. (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: heh
  613. (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): some mafia don mentor?
  614. (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: I have excellent advisors
  615. (2013-01-27 01:28) inigo (laptop): or a consiglere
  616. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: selfish bastard
  617. (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: OK - here's what I'm gonna do.
  618. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: get a new lappy
  619. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: ill pay for it :)
  620. (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: ha!
  621. (2013-01-27 01:29) myself: of course
  622. (2013-01-27 01:29) cimon: Yeah, I won't run one thta's not set up pretty
  623. much like mine now ;)
  624. (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: brb - phon
  625. (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: e
  626. (2013-01-27 01:30) myself: k
  627. (2013-01-27 01:31) inigo (laptop): so i guess the priorites would be 1.)
  628. compiling the list of knowledge he was privy to that he can compromise 2.)
  629. get somebody on top of tracking him down 3.) figure out how to squeeze him
  630. for as much of the money back as possible?
  631. (2013-01-27 01:32) myself: 3 will depend on what we find out in 2
  632. (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): true
  633. (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): i would assume trying to recover money
  634. is more important then just flat out revenge
  635. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): maybe by taking control of his
  636. computers we can get control of his bitcoin addresses
  637. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: revenge isn't in the equation
  638. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: there's money, security, and justice
  639. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: but not revenge
  640. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): justice is the word i was looking for
  641. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): revenge isn't the libertarian way :)
  642. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: i guess not
  643. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): deff not your style either
  644. (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: it kills the person seeking it as much as the
  645. one receiving
  646. (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: you wanna know one of my deepest fears in all
  647. of this
  648. (2013-01-27 01:35) inigo (laptop): what's that
  649. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: being wildly successful
  650. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and becoming extremely powerful
  651. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and being corrupted by that power
  652. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): thats a very real possibility
  653. (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: inigo
  654. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): power has corrupted even some of the
  655. best of men
  656. (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: I need something from you
  657. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): anything
  658. (2013-01-27 01:37) myself: you need to call me out if ever I am over
  659. confident in my ideas, or abusive of my power
  660. (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): i wouldn't hesitate to
  661. (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): don't worry
  662. (2013-01-27 01:38) myself: thank you
  663. (2013-01-27 01:38) inigo (laptop): especially knowing that's your deepest
  664. fear, i won't let that happen, or at least i'll do anything in my power to
  665. stop you if I notice a seed of power corruption getting to your head
  666. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: yea, even the thought of it makes me shutter
  667. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: and it will start with rationalizations
  668. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: so don't let me fool you. call a spade a spade
  669. (2013-01-27 01:39) inigo (laptop): understood
  670. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): fortunately, i have faith in your
  671. character and your will power
  672. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): i dont think it will come to that
  673. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): but i will be forever on the ever
  674. vigilant watch
  675. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): just in case
  676. (2013-01-27 01:40) myself: perfect!
  677. (2013-01-27 01:41) inigo (laptop): i give you my word on that
  678. (2013-01-27 01:41) myself: ya know, in a way I'm glad flush is gone
  679. (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): me too
  680. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: he was kinda manipulating me against you
  681. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: i didn't like that
  682. (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): yeah i really started to not trust him
  683. as time went on
  684. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: very subtle though, nothing i could really call
  685. him on
  686. (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i started to see the ugly side of his
  687. character
  688. (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i never thought he would go this far
  689. though
  690. (2013-01-27 01:44) inigo (laptop): but he rubbed me more and more as a
  691. sleezy scheemer
  692. (2013-01-27 01:45) inigo (laptop): aparantly he's the kind of guy who has
  693. lied his whole way through life. like when i told him i needed to buy a
  694. car but have terrible credit, he had this whole scheeme that he said he's
  695. been using his whole life where he fakes W-2's and paystubs and basically
  696. commits fraud regularly to qualify for his house and his car and his
  697. business
  698. (2013-01-27 01:46) inigo (laptop): he was trying to get me to do it, but
  699. im not a good liar, and i dont feel comfortable committing fraud like that
  700. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): then his whole multi-level marketing,
  701. amway-type scam shit
  702. (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: yea, i never saw those signs
  703. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): he wanted me to put up some money up
  704. front to get stuck with a cart of vitamins that i was supposed to go to
  705. gyms and try to sell
  706. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): like wtf
  707. (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: that's odd
  708. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): yeah he was promising all this income
  709. from it, and how he was getting rich because of it and how everyone who
  710. gets in early gets paid the most
  711. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): some pyramid thing
  712. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): i just kept saying no thanks
  713. (2013-01-27 01:49) inigo (laptop): he was greedy
  714. (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: its hard to judge people
  715. (2013-01-27 01:50) inigo (laptop): yeah its deff easy to say all this
  716. after the fact
  717. (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: and i was a little desperate having lost both
  718. my guys at the same time last time
  719. (2013-01-27 01:51) inigo (laptop): yeah dont get me wrong, you werent at
  720. fault at all, he played his cards perfectly at first, it wasnt until the
  721. last month or so when i started to really get rubbed the wrong way by him
  722. (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he's been connning people most of his
  723. life i suppose
  724. (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he must be good at it
  725. (2013-01-27 01:52) myself: I may not be at fault, but it's my
  726. responsibility. we have to do better going forward bringing people in
  727. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: i have one person i really hope comes on board
  728. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): yeah. more scrutiny. if only we had a
  729. doctor of psycology
  730. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: but i'll want your input if it comes to it
  731. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): to analyze potential employees
  732. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): sure thing
  733. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: yea, it's not my area of expertise at all
  734. (2013-01-27 01:53) cimon: You would have surprised me if you had balked at
  735. taking the step, of bluntly, killing Curtis for fucking up just a wee bit
  736. too badly.
  737. Also, if you had balked, I would have seriously re-considered our
  738. relationship.
  739. We're playing for keeps, this just drives it home.
  740. I'm perfectly comfortable with the decision, and I'll sleep like a lamb
  741. tonight, and every night hereafter.
  742. (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): lol yeah thats something you need to
  743. spend a lifetime specializing in
  744. (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): but thats why big corporations hire
  745. them so often
  746. (2013-01-27 01:54) cimon: Let's just try and not make a habit of this,
  747. mkay.
  748. (2013-01-27 01:54) myself: well put
  749. (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): its hard enough figuring out if they
  750. are undercover LE, its even harder to tell what their character is like
  751. (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): over the internet especially
  752. (2013-01-27 02:07) cimon: OK, there is one alternate approach that kills
  753. two birds with one stone, so to speak.
  754. Tell nob, OK, why don't you deal with the problem, just not for at least
  755. one week.
  756. Get the guy who knows a guy to get some guys in place to bat clean-up if
  757. the first string fucks it up.
  758. Same result, and I'd be pretty sure nobs not a fed then.
  759. (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: IF he's a fed, nothing happens. If he's
  760. incompetent, we take out his team and finish the task.
  761. (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: Either way, valuable things would be learned.
  762. (2013-01-27 02:08) myself: take out?
  763. (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Well, figure if his team tries to take the guy
  764. and fails, the best place to be is close enough to deal with it as it
  765. happens.
  766. (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Otherwise, it'd be tough to ever get another
  767. chance.
  768. (2013-01-27 02:10) cimon: He'd likely send in 2 guys, one to cover the
  769. lead.
  770. (2013-01-27 02:11) cimon: We'd cover the cover guy
  771. (2013-01-27 02:12) cimon: If they are getting a beat-down 'cause they
  772. walked into a poker game, not a guy sleeping, they're gonna need some help
  773. getting out of there.
  774. (2013-01-27 02:13) myself: so you steak out curtis and wait for nob to
  775. send in some guys?
  776. (2013-01-27 02:13) cimon: Pretty much. Oh, and re-reading what I said
  777. above, replace "take out his team" with "extract his team"
  778. I was typing and missed your 'take out?' send, :p
  779. (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: ok, good!
  780. (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: i was like, damn we need to have a talk
  781. (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: Our team woujld be like his teams guradian angel
  782. (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: ha!
  783. (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: Hey, nobs guys or not, they'd be on our team,
  784. and we never leave a man behind.
  785. (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: lol, yea
  786. (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: so many miscommunications on this thing i am
  787. sure
  788. (2013-01-27 15:08) Nob: good evening Cabeza
  789. (2013-01-27 15:08) myself: hey nob, how're you?
  790. (2013-01-27 15:09) Nob: good
  791. (2013-01-27 15:09) myself: im still waiting to hear back from googleyed.
  792. I couldn't confirm anything just by looking at his account.
  793. (2013-01-27 15:10) Nob: esta bien, the address that googlyed gave me was
  794. (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: my men shipped the kilo there
  795. (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: that is a business owned by curtis green
  796. (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: so green is the utah guy that stole your money?
  797. (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: yes
  798. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he set something up with googleyed, but they
  799. did it over torchat, so I don't know what it was
  800. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: hopefully googleyed will be forthcoming
  801. (2013-01-27 15:12) Nob: how did he do it? you said that he stole $350,000
  802. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he had access to the password reset function
  803. (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: he got into several vendor accounts that way
  804. and emptied them
  805. (2013-01-27 15:13) Nob: what was he a programmer or something?
  806. (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: no, he was doing support
  807. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: resolution center admin
  808. (2013-01-27 15:14) Nob: what is support?
  809. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: investigating vendors
  810. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: assisting vendors
  811. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: that kinda stuff
  812. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: i had him helping you find customers for
  813. example
  814. (2013-01-27 15:15) Nob: oh, well I'm going to need more help in that area;
  815. something es mal con googleyed
  816. (2013-01-27 15:15) myself: yea, I'm really curious what happened
  817. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: but yea, curtis got busted for your key
  818. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: really wierd turn of events
  819. (2013-01-27 15:16) Nob: as we discussed, I reached out and I have two
  820. very, professional individuals that are going to visit green
  821. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: will they execute him if I want?
  822. (2013-01-27 15:17) Nob: they are very good; yes, but I directed them only
  823. to beat him up; that was your wishes yesterday, correct?
  824. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: yes it was
  825. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: will you be in contact with them when they get
  826. there?
  827. (2013-01-27 15:19) Nob: no, no contact; too risky
  828. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: ok, so the plan is in motion then?
  829. (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: for them to give him the note and beat him up?
  830. (2013-01-27 15:20) Nob: yes, they have your note and are going to, how do
  831. I say it, torture him
  832. (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: ok, hmmm
  833. (2013-01-27 15:21) Nob: i am paying for this one, but if you want him
  834. killed it will be a lot more and you will have to pay the difference
  835. (2013-01-27 15:21) myself: do they know he was arrested for coke 10 days
  836. ago?
  837. (2013-01-27 15:22) Nob: no the details; they work for an associate of
  838. mine; i have never met them
  839. (2013-01-27 15:22) myself: ok
  840. (2013-01-27 15:23) Nob: do you know what happened? what are the details of
  841. his arrest
  842. (2013-01-27 15:23) myself: I don't know, but I assume it was your key
  843. because it happend right around the same time
  844. (2013-01-27 15:24) Nob: this is why I shouldn't mail; everybody want's
  845. them in the mail
  846. (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: yea, larger stuff is better to do drops
  847. (2013-01-27 15:25) Nob: too risky, not damned methylone and other shit
  848. (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: ok, so can you change the order to execute
  849. rather than torture?
  850. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: he was on the inside for a while, and now that
  851. he's been arrested, I'm afraid he'll give up info
  852. (2013-01-27 15:26) Nob: yes, is that what you want?
  853. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: and he ripped me off
  854. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: it is, after i had a chance to think on it
  855. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: never killed a man or had one killed before,
  856. but it is the right move in this case.
  857. (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: how much will it cost?
  858. (2013-01-27 15:27) Nob: ok, I was going to pay $5,000 to have him beat up;
  859. I need to contact my associate and ask what the price will be for the deed
  860. (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: ok
  861. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ballpark?
  862. (2013-01-27 15:28) Nob: i have no idea what it will cost
  863. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ok
  864. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: less than $100k?
  865. (2013-01-27 15:29) Nob: depends, they need to check out the neighborhood,
  866. police force, etc.
  867. (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ok, so you'll let me know
  868. (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ?
  869. (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: yes, give them a couple days to assess the
  870. situation and I will have a price for you
  871. (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: thank you
  872. (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: for you anything, I am sorry that this has
  873. happened
  874. (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: have you killed or had someone killed before?
  875. (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: i'm a good catholic man, but yes I have; sometimes
  876. there are no alternatives
  877. (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: do your fear googleyed is LE?
  878. (2013-01-27 15:31) myself: no
  879. (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: ok, i trust you
  880. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: just my hunch
  881. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: I don't have all the facts
  882. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: but he's been selling on here for a while
  883. (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: damn
  884. (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: he doesn't trust curtis completely which is a
  885. good sign
  886. (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: i think curtis tricked him into having him send
  887. him the key somehow
  888. (2013-01-27 15:35) Nob: i see
  889. (2013-01-27 15:36) Nob: ok, i will get back to you; stay safe
  890. (2013-01-27 15:36) myself: you too
  891. (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: i talked to nob
  892. (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: he's already mobilizing apparently
  893. (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: well ok then, I think we should take observer
  894. status here.
  895. (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: If you think about it, it REALLY doesn't look
  896. good on nob if a guy he sold to immediately gets buseted
  897. (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: yea, his response was "this is why I ask them
  898. to do drops instead of through the mail"
  899. (2013-01-27 16:32) cimon: gussetet, is like gusseted, from the hillbilly
  900. 'to get all gussied up'
  901. (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: he said he is going to get in touch after his
  902. ground crew surveys the situation
  903. (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: (17:14:27) Dipper: i was like, damn we need to
  904. have a talk
  905. Too funny!
  906. (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: I got confirmation of my story from googleyed
  907. (2013-01-28 17:42) cimon: in case we have any probs, so he has
  908. replacements
  909. (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: and a 3rd address of his
  910. (2013-01-28 17:43) myself: his = curtis
  911. (2013-01-29 12:44) Nob: [delayed] ¿Donde tu estás? Tenemos que hablar.
  912. (2013-01-29 12:44) myself: hola nob
  913. (2013-01-29 12:45) myself: you there?
  914. (2013-01-29 12:46) Nob: sí
  915. (2013-01-29 12:46) myself: what's up?
  916. (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: que tal?
  917. (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: doing all right! can't complain, have friends
  918. like you
  919. (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: :D
  920. (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: look at you hablando
  921. (2013-01-29 12:48) Nob: my guy got back to me at quoted 80K for the hit;
  922. guy lives in a tight neighborhood; going to be hard gettin in and the body
  923. out
  924. (2013-01-29 12:48) myself: ok
  925. (2013-01-29 12:49) Nob: you want to go forward? i assume you are going to
  926. want to move fast
  927. (2013-01-29 12:49) myself: yes, let's do it
  928.  
  929. Case 1:14-cr-00068-KBF
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