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  1. Compilation of Torchat Logs Seized from Ulbricht Laptop Reflecting
  2. Communications with SA Force (“Nob”), “Inigo” and “Cimon”
  3. Between January 26, 2013 at 3:39 a.m. and January 29, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.1
  4.  
  5. Torchat communications between Ulbricht and SA Force (“Nob”) are included in their entirety for this designated
  6. time period. Torchat ommunications between Ulbricht and “Inigo”/”Cimon” are excerpts of relvant portions
  7. regarding the theft of Bitcoins by Curtis Green, a/k/a “Flush.”
  8.  
  9. (2013-01-26 03:39) inigo (laptop): [delayed] i hope you get online soon.
  10. we are under attack over 100k stolen, shits hitting the fan you need to
  11. pull the plug on withdrawals
  12. [delayed] over 300k stolen. i think i figured out how to contain it.
  13. [delayed] as far as I can tell it was flush, and he managed to steal a
  14. little over $350k
  15. [delayed] either that or somebody with access to his account
  16. [delayed] but my hunch is that it was him.
  17. [delayed] fortunately i was able to stop it before it got any further
  18. [delayed] looks like he took 900bitcoins from the petty cash fund, and the
  19. rest by changing vendors passwords and resetting their pins, and then
  20. logging into their accounts to wipe out their balances
  21. [delayed] ive been up all night frantically trying to stop this massive
  22. theft, i need to catch a few zzz's
  23. [delayed] ill be back on in a few hours. hopefully in time to see you get
  24. online
  25. (2013-01-26 03:41) myself: you there?
  26. (2013-01-26 04:47) myself: yea, this makes me sick to my stomache. I
  27. decrypted his ID and did some digging. He was arrested for cocaine
  28. posession last week. I think this stuff about his daughter was a tale.
  29. This will be the first time I have had to call on my muscle. fucking
  30. sucks.
  31.  
  32. (2013-01-26 10:42) Nob: [delayed] my friend you up
  33. (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: i am
  34. (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: how are you amigo?
  35. (2013-01-26 10:43) Nob: I'm tired D, real tired
  36. (2013-01-26 10:44) myself: not enough sleep?
  37. (2013-01-26 10:44) Nob: no I'm working too hard. overseeing three good
  38. size loads coming from South America up here into U.S.
  39. (2013-01-26 10:45) myself: lots of people to coordinate?
  40. (2013-01-26 10:46) Nob: yes, heah i just saw your message on SR
  41. (2013-01-26 10:46) myself: yea, not a ton of money, but it pisses me off
  42. to no end. I trusted the guy too much
  43. (2013-01-26 10:47) Nob: ok, who is it and where is he
  44. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: ill send you his ID
  45. (2013-01-26 10:48) Nob: how?
  46. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: I had him send it to me when I hired him
  47. (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: for just this kind of situation
  48. (2013-01-26 10:49) myself: he was recently arrested for cocaine possession
  49. on Jan 17th
  50. (2013-01-26 10:50) Nob: that wasn't the kilo that I sent was it. because
  51. I'm going to be pissed
  52. (2013-01-26 10:50) myself: did you send it to UTAH?
  53. (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes, it's an address that googleyed gave to me.
  54. and i'm having problems with him/her
  55. (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: are you serious!
  56. (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes what the mierda
  57. (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: mierda?
  58. (2013-01-26 10:53) Nob: what you want done? what the fuck is up with the
  59. googleyed. i don't need this shit
  60. (2013-01-26 10:54) Nob: and who is the frickin idiot?
  61. (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: I'm incredibly sorry nob, but this guy on the
  62. ID
  63. (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: he's the one I asked to set you up with vendors
  64. (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he must have somehow tricked you into sending
  65. the kilo to him instead of googleyed
  66. (2013-01-26 10:55) Nob: ok what do you want done with him?
  67. (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he then took advantage of some of the tools I
  68. gave him to do vendor support to rip a bunch of vendors off, who I will
  69. have to compensate
  70. (2013-01-26 10:56) Nob: i'm not worried. i didn't send it out. but
  71. googleyed worries me. you sure he/she is ok?
  72. (2013-01-26 10:56) inigo (laptop): im back online now
  73. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I'm not sure about googleyed. they were locked
  74. out of their account by this guy 24 hours ago
  75. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: more like 12 hours ago
  76. (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): if you want me to get on a plane and go
  77. find him, just say the word
  78. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I have someone on it
  79. (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: thank you though
  80. (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): i really wish i could have figured it
  81. out faster and stopped him before he took so much
  82. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: you didn't send the kilo? or are you talking
  83. about a second order?
  84. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): i noticed it as soon as he started,
  85. luckily, but it took me a few hours to figure out what was happeneing and
  86. realize how to stop it
  87. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: how did you stop it?
  88. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): by resetting the password to his
  89. account
  90. (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: oh, smart
  91. (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): as soon as i did that the stealing
  92. stopped
  93. (2013-01-26 10:59) Nob: i sent the kilo and G-eyed did pay so. G-eyed is
  94. talking about doing a second order for five kilos to the UK.
  95. (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: you sent one kilo to the utah address?
  96. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): i was watching the bitcoin address that
  97. he was sending all the coins to
  98. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): 20000 btc by the time i cut off his
  99. admin access
  100. (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: I even had the thought that I was putting too
  101. much trust in you guys and should give one pin reset power and the other
  102. pass reset power
  103. (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): that would have been a good idea
  104. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i wish i had a kill switch
  105. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): for the site
  106. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): or for withdrawals at least
  107. (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: withdrawals at least
  108. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i could have stopped it at under $60k
  109. (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: yea, a w/d kill switch is a good idea
  110. (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): im sorry it got so far. but i hate to
  111. think how much more he could have stolen
  112. (2013-01-26 11:01) inigo (laptop): i just wish i could have been faster
  113. (2013-01-26 11:02) inigo (laptop): 350k is a lot of money. it will take
  114. him a while to cash it all out. if we can find him first maybe something
  115. can be done
  116. (2013-01-26 11:03) Nob: yes a utah address, but like i said; i didn't send
  117. it so i'll have to reach out and get the exact address
  118. (2013-01-26 11:03) myself: let me see if I understand...
  119. (2013-01-26 11:04) Nob: i had my people send it. i never touch the dope
  120. (2013-01-26 11:04) myself: you sent a kilo to geyed, which he received.
  121. where did you send that one? who asked for the kilo to utah?
  122. (2013-01-26 11:04) inigo (laptop): it was sheer luck that i noticed it, i
  123. had sent my coins to sugar mama to cash out my paycheck, and i kept
  124. looking her up to see if she was back online because im flat broke and was
  125. really antsy for her to send me the MP codes (which she still hasnt done
  126. thanks to this mess) and then i noticed her balance drop to 0, and she
  127. made a forum post about it
  128. (2013-01-26 11:05) Nob: googleyed gave me an address in utah to send the
  129. kilo. googleyed requested that the kilo go to utah.
  130. (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): so i started to investigate, searched
  131. the bitcoin address that her coins were withdrawn to, and noticed that 4
  132. top vendors had withdrawn to the same address
  133. (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): about 1000 bitcoins from each
  134. (2013-01-26 11:06) Nob: g-eyed said she got it that is why she finalized,
  135. but he/she isn't leaving feedback on SR which is pissing me off
  136. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): then i started talking with sugar mama
  137. and figured out that her pin and pass had been reset, and that led me to
  138. realize it was someone with admin access and not a virus or malicous code
  139. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): so then i just thought the best shot i
  140. had to stop it was reset flush's password
  141. (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): cut off his admin access
  142. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: where was the first kilo sent?
  143. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: was it ireland?
  144. (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: to utah
  145. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: do you have the exact address?
  146. (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: next five kilos are supposed to go to ireland
  147. (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: does it match the id?
  148. (2013-01-26 11:08) myself: ok, don't send them until I get to the bottom
  149. of this
  150. (2013-01-26 11:08) Nob: i have to call back to my guy who sent the kilo
  151. for me
  152. (2013-01-26 11:08) inigo (laptop): by then his address had racked up 20k
  153. btc
  154. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): also, what really led me to thinking it
  155. was him, was the fact that sealswithclubs got ddos'd yesterday
  156. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and was held at ransom
  157. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: oh damn
  158. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and theres only one person i know with
  159. ties to SR and sealswithclubs
  160. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: what sleaze
  161. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): flush told me that he knew the owner
  162. really well
  163. (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: he told me that too
  164. (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): yeah so he must have organized an
  165. attack on his site as well
  166. (2013-01-26 11:10) Nob: yes, i need you to let me know what is going on
  167. (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): some desperate attempt to get as much
  168. as he could in one day
  169. (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): fucking scumbag
  170. (2013-01-26 11:10) myself: so, I have a friend that smuggles heroin for
  171. cartels. I'm chatting with him now. he has muscle everywhere and will
  172. get to him quickly.
  173. (2013-01-26 11:11) myself: I will. what do you want to do about Curtis
  174. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): ah you must be referring to the guy
  175. that was offering free full auto AR's with his heroin
  176. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): the guy with ties to FARC
  177. (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): nob or something like that
  178. (2013-01-26 11:12) myself: If you can get someone to force him to return
  179. the stolen funds, that would be amazing
  180. (2013-01-26 11:12) Nob: personally, I don't want any contact. i'm clear.
  181. if you want something done, i can help you discreetly
  182. (2013-01-26 11:12) inigo (laptop): if thats who your talking about, then
  183. he would seem like the perfect person for the job
  184. (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: what do you mean?
  185. (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: this is someone else
  186. (2013-01-26 11:13) inigo (laptop): oh ok
  187. (2013-01-26 11:14) inigo (laptop): i can't believe he pulled this. some
  188. people are hard to read
  189. (2013-01-26 11:15) Nob: do you want him beat up. shot, just paid a visit?
  190. (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): so just out of curiousity i pulled up
  191. the messages from "chronicpain" since he revealed thats who he used to be
  192. (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): he was logged in 17 hours ago
  193. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: I'd like him beat up, then forced to send the
  194. bitcoins he stole back. like sit him down at his computer and make him do
  195. it
  196. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: beat up only if he doesn't comply I guess
  197. (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: not sure how these things usually go
  198. (2013-01-26 11:18) Nob: remember that guy in Africa? you wanted me to put
  199. a gun to that guy's head while he is logged on SR and take a picture. you
  200. want that?
  201. (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: no thanks
  202. (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: just don't want him to have that money
  203. (2013-01-26 11:19) Nob: ok, you just want him beat up and send you money
  204. back; the guy I'm going to send knows nothing about computers so he won't
  205. know whether or not the mark has the funds or even if he sent it
  206. (2013-01-26 11:20) myself: we could give him a letter to give curtis
  207. (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: so the message doesn't get mixed up
  208. (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: and if I know when he is paying him a visit, I
  209. can tell him to log on to torchat to talk to me while your man is there
  210. (2013-01-26 11:22) myself: so I can be loged in when he goes to his house
  211. (2013-01-26 11:22) Nob: ok, you write the letter and send it to me. i'll
  212. get the exact address where the kilo was sent. please check into
  213. googleyed, this doesn't make sense to me
  214. (2013-01-26 11:23) myself: ok
  215. (2013-01-26 11:23) Nob: just forget about googleyed, i'm cutting ties
  216. (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: be back in contact later today or tomorrow; stay
  217. out of trouble, i can't loose you now
  218. (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: should be can't lose you now, frickin spanish to
  219. english bullshit ... so tired can't think straight
  220. (2013-01-26 11:24) myself: how quickly do you think you can get someone
  221. over there? and what does that cost you? is it worth the hassle?
  222. (2013-01-26 11:25) Nob: not sure. it is going to cost money because it's
  223. not my people
  224. (2013-01-26 11:26) myself: ok, if it costs more than we can recover, then
  225. obviously we should not go through with it
  226. (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: shit, shit, shit; we don't need this, one step
  227. forward, two steps back
  228. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: i know, it's a pain
  229. (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: ok talk at you
  230. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: we don't have to do anything if you don't want
  231. (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: talk to you soon
  232. (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: ok, i'll let you know
  233. (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: i'm confident that I'm clear; googleyed on the
  234. other hand
  235. (2013-01-26 11:29) inigo (laptop): weird
  236. (2013-01-26 11:32) inigo (laptop): flush has to be an idiot to steal from
  237. you knowing that you know where he lives. he must be going on the run
  238. (2013-01-26 11:32) myself: maybe so
  239. (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: i assumed that would be enough to deter him
  240. from doing anything like this
  241. (2013-01-26 11:33) inigo (laptop): you may need to hire some private eyes
  242. to find him. somebody thats a pro in finding fugatives and missing people
  243. (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: yea
  244. (2013-01-26 11:34) inigo (laptop): like i said if need be you always have
  245. me at your disposal if you locate him and need somebody to go handle it
  246. (2013-01-26 11:35) myself: thanks. I want to go kick his ass myself, but
  247. let's leave it to the pros
  248. (2013-01-26 11:35) inigo (laptop): k
  249. (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: here's the note
  250. (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: Curtis,
  251. Send the bitcoins you stole to the following address immediately:
  252. 1p6QfxXEdHTFPkVPx1nFJXqpfiyEKXBNG
  253. Tell the person who just gave you this note after one confirmation on the
  254. blockchain.
  255. -DPR
  256. (2013-01-26 11:47) myself: then we'd have to get the guy to give us
  257. confirmation so we can check the blockchain.
  258. (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: I'd actually like to go through with this even
  259. if it costs more than we can recover. I would like the experience in case
  260. something like this happens again.
  261. (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: you there?
  262. (2013-01-26 11:48) inigo (laptop): yep
  263. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, let's tackle the support page until we have
  264. everything zeroed
  265. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: what are you working on right now?
  266. (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): customer messages
  267. (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, I'll do vendor messages
  268. (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): k
  269. (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: ok got it. i'll get back to you with address and
  270. see if I can get a "friend" over to visit your guy
  271. (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: ok
  272. (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: thanks nob
  273. (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: no problem my friend. te amo
  274. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: while I'm fixing this...
  275. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: your with me right inigo?
  276. (2013-01-26 13:24) inigo (laptop): yes sir
  277. (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: i mean... long term
  278. (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: I don't know what I'm doing wrong
  279. (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: or if im doing anything wrong
  280. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): oh yeah absolutely. i swore my loyalty
  281. to you
  282. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): and i will stick by that
  283. (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): i take pride in my loyalty above all my
  284. other characteristics
  285. (2013-01-26 13:26) inigo (laptop): where i lack in other fields, you'll at
  286. least get your value out of me by having somebody loyal for life :)
  287. (2013-01-26 13:26) myself: thank you
  288. (2013-01-26 13:27) inigo (laptop): you've given me a chance at a
  289. financially secure future that i didn't have before. while flush may have
  290. been a greedy scumbag, im here for the long run, if anything just to show
  291. my graditude
  292. (2013-01-26 13:28) myself: maybe guys like us are just rarer than I'd
  293. hoped
  294. (2013-01-26 13:29) inigo (laptop): he clearly didn't want to wait, and
  295. wanted to get rich quick. im willing to put in the long hours now and even
  296. stuggle a little bit financially, because i know that in the long run it
  297. will pay off and in a few years i figure ill be making enough that i wont
  298. have to worry about money
  299. (2013-01-26 13:30) inigo (laptop): [delayed] even if its 5-10 years from
  300. now, i see the long run opportunity
  301. (2013-01-26 13:31) myself: that's good, so do I, obviously.
  302. (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): ive only been with you for three
  303. months, so i don't expect to have a new car and a nice place to live and
  304. all that good stuff just yet. im willing to earn it.
  305. (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): what other details did you find out
  306. about flush's arrest?
  307. (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): did it say how much he was caught with?
  308. (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: I haven't dug into it yet
  309. (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): yeah i guess its pretty early
  310. (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: we want to move quickly, but I gave the whole
  311. mess over to my guy
  312. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): just to confirm that he gave you his
  313. real ID, i was able to aquire what i believe to be his identity from the
  314. info he revealed to me
  315. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: oh really?
  316. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): i made him as Curtis Green from
  317. , Utag
  318. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): utah
  319. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: yep
  320. (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: how'd you manage that?
  321. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): ok good so that wasn't a fake id
  322. (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): he told me about this website that he
  323. owns
  324. (2013-01-26 13:36) myself: what is it?
  325. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): .com
  326. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): he was trying to recuit me to this
  327. multi level marketing scam
  328. (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): so today i looked up who owns that site
  329. (2013-01-26 13:37) myself: this guy is an idiot
  330. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): he also owns a company called anytime
  331. airport shuttle or something like that
  332. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): yeah
  333. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i found his twitter account too
  334. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): had a picture of the SR logo as his
  335. profile pic
  336. (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i couldn't believe it
  337. (2013-01-26 13:38) inigo (laptop): hasn't made an update since jan 5th tho
  338. (2013-01-26 13:39) myself: what's the name of the twitter account?
  339. (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): one sec
  340. (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): https://twitter.com/
  341. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): that twitter page also links to his
  342. dads charity's website that he manages
  343. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): .com
  344. (2013-01-26 13:40) myself: the more you can give me the better
  345. (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): he frequents poker tournys in vegas
  346. (2013-01-26 13:42) inigo (laptop): he owns the email address
  347. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): although i couldn't find a record of
  348. that email anywhere online
  349. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): seemed to be a dead end lead
  350. (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): idk what the address on his ID is, but
  351. i have him at
  352. (2013-01-26 13:44) myself: that's the same
  353. (2013-01-26 13:45) inigo (laptop): i also have two previous addresses
  354. associated with his name:
  355. (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): here's his amazon wishlist:
  356. http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=
  357. (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): lol
  358. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i think his daughter's name is
  359. and his wife's name is
  360. (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: how do you know that?
  361. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop):
  362. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i have a subscription
  363. (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: whats that?
  364. (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): for situaitons like this
  365. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): its a website that pulls up info on
  366. people
  367. (2013-01-26 13:48) myself: oh ok
  368. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): previous addresses, relatives
  369. (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): etc
  370. (2013-01-26 13:51) inigo (laptop): my grandparents on my dads side live in
  371. vegas, they're both in their 90's living on their own with lots of health
  372. problems, if he turns up at some poker tourny out there i could kill two
  373. birds with one stone by visiting them and doing some reconossaince mission
  374. on our friend curtis here lol. just keep that in mind in case the
  375. opportunity arrises
  376. (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: be on the look out for vendors screwed by flush
  377. trying to get back in
  378. (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: those ones i mentioned before
  379. (2013-01-26 16:36) inigo (laptop): will do
  380. (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i found the account that he was sending
  381. the password resets to last night. i dont know if that helps, but it gave
  382. me a list of all the vendors he screwed
  383. (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i guess you have that same list tho
  384. (2013-01-26 16:37) myself: yea, I dug through all that as well
  385. (2013-01-26 16:38) inigo (laptop): ok
  386. (2013-01-26 20:00) cimon: Hey there, sexy man. Come in, welcome, buy me a
  387. drink.
  388. (2013-01-26 20:37) myself: [delayed] sup sup
  389. (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed] oops missed ya. had a little mishap
  390. today I need to run by you. had a csr go rogue and rip me off for $350k
  391. (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed messages have been sent]
  392. (2013-01-27 00:42) myself: hey, you around?
  393. (2013-01-27 00:43) cimon: yes, give me 5 mins first
  394. (2013-01-27 00:43) myself: no rush
  395. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: OK. Howdy, doodie.
  396. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: 350k, eh
  397. (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: fucker
  398. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: yea, I didn't expect him to do it because I
  399. have his id
  400. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: REALLY
  401. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: but I left myself open to it
  402. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: well, tell me a tale Uncle Robert
  403. (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: gave him pin and password reset capabilities.
  404. it was dumb
  405. (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: ahh - I follow
  406. (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: enough about the theft, tell me about the organ
  407. donor
  408. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: I even though I shouldn't, but then I thought,
  409. since i have the id, he'd never do it
  410. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: and he did
  411. (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: you wanna see his id?
  412. (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: How sure are you it's really his ID
  413. (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: oh yeah, I'm gonna have a chat with him
  414. (2013-01-27 00:50) myself: pretty damn sure
  415. (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: <-- could use some exercise
  416. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: the story gets moreinteresting
  417. (2013-01-27 00:51) cimon: Well, I'm sure we can tell the diff IRL in real
  418. life betwen some schmoe who has his info lifted, and a guy who's on tor
  419. and also just got 350 k
  420. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: its deffo him
  421. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: unless he's super clever
  422. (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: and he isnt
  423. (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: yeah, that ID looks pretty good
  424. (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: the other csr confirmed alot
  425. (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: have you run any online searches to see if you
  426. can match the addy
  427. (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: lemme tell you the rest of the story
  428. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: nob has been bugging me off and on
  429. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: since you last spoke to him
  430. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: checking in every few weeks
  431. (2013-01-27 00:53) cimon: Gor for it, I'm gonna have me an afternoon
  432. spliff before my nap -- Davids truck broke down, so I'm running the bar
  433. until 4 am tonight
  434. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i told him I'd find him a buyer from the
  435. current vendors
  436. (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i put this guy on the task
  437. (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: curtis
  438. (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: i haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet, but
  439. somehow he impersonated googleyed or something and got nob to ship him a
  440. key of columbias finest
  441. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: now if you google his name, one of the first
  442. things that comes up is an arrest on Jan 17
  443. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: for cocaine posession
  444. (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: like 10 days ago
  445. (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: fuck
  446. (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: I know, right?
  447. (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: <-- is pissin self
  448. (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: so nob is pissed. I gave him his info when he
  449. asked for it
  450. (2013-01-27 00:57) myself: he won't do anything without my go though, I
  451. don't think
  452. (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: yeah, he's been busted for coke. Write off the
  453. money, no way I'd send anyone in there, or go myself, with that kind of
  454. heat, especially since he may still roll on SR for leniency.
  455. (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: ok
  456. (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: i just hate getting ripped off
  457. (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: HOWEVER, it certainly fucking gives nob a wee
  458. bit o' credibility.
  459. (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: yea, nobs legit, but not quite as big time as
  460. he was making himself out to be
  461. (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: Oh, I have a long memory, and the time to deal
  462. with Curtis is after he's out of his current predicament.
  463. (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: I'll get on tracking him
  464. (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: says he makes 25 mil a year
  465. (2013-01-27 01:00) myself: yea, but that money won't last long
  466. (2013-01-27 01:04) cimon: Sorry, back to Curtis for a sec. Since Smed is
  467. behind, instead of having Irish come out here in a few days, I can have
  468. him skip to Utah and see if this whole Curtis thing smells at all. Dumb
  469. Irishmen that can't use a smart phone don't fit our profile, so I'm sure
  470. he'd be cool.
  471. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: that's fine with me
  472. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: would be good to put eyeballs on this guy
  473. (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: he may be in a jail cell for all we know though
  474. (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: Irish always knows a guy who knows a guy, we'd
  475. get a better handle on what's going on.
  476. (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: I'd be most curious about his living
  477. arrangements, did they go nuts seizing computer stuff, or just grab the
  478. guy and the drugs. Gotta talk to the neighbors, man, ya *always* gotta
  479. talk to the neighbors.
  480. (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: It's the shit that happened AFTER the bust that
  481. tells us what they're looking at now
  482. (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: when did he liberate the 350
  483. (2013-01-27 01:08) myself: lemme get an exact
  484. (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: around
  485. (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: January 26, 2013, 8:50 am UTC
  486. (2013-01-27 01:09) cimon: So he ain't in jail
  487. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: and his computer shit wasn't taken
  488. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: so the feds have no linke there. Yet. He still
  489. has lots of time to deal.
  490. (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: so he must be out on bail?
  491. (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: he might be fleeing
  492. (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: One would think.
  493. (2013-01-27 01:11) cimon: well, he does have 350k, but it takes time to
  494. clear that, so he may be holding fast until he can get it out.
  495. (2013-01-27 01:11) myself: but with an arrest, seems like it would be hard
  496. to flee
  497. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: he sent the money to one address
  498. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: 127B3qwztPyA67uq63LG8G5izwhFcJ7j4A
  499. (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: which still has 15k on it
  500. (2013-01-27 01:13) cimon: As a side note, at what point in time do we
  501. decide we've had enough of someones shit, and terminate them? Like, does
  502. impersonating a vendor to rip off a mid-level drug lord, using our rep and
  503. system; follows up by stealing from our vendors and clients and breeding
  504. fear and mis-trust, does that come close in yer opinion?
  505. (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: terminate?
  506. (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: execute?
  507. (2013-01-27 01:14) cimon: Not to mention that whole common law breach of
  508. fiduciary duties and duty of care
  509. (2013-01-27 01:15) myself: if this was the wild west, and it kinda is,
  510. you'd get hung just for stealing a horse
  511. (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: Yeah, pretty much. At what point in time is that
  512. the response. We're playing with big money with serious people, and that's
  513. the world they live in.
  514. (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: I sure as fuck don't want nob to try it, fuck
  515. up, and then have our laundry aired.
  516. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: unfortunately, there isn't much inbetween
  517. (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: I know a guy, and he knows a guy who knows a
  518. guy, that gets things done.
  519. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: in a perfect world, we'd get the money back,
  520. plus our expenses and maybe beat him up or something
  521. (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: but that's not realistic
  522. (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: Nope. And it ain't the money, fuck, it's your
  523. fault, no one elses. Someday I'll tell you a long story from a guy who
  524. explained to me why situations like this are always yer own fault.
  525. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: so yea, it's a good quesiton I've been thinking
  526. about the last 24 hours
  527. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: oh it's my fault. I even thought of it before
  528. it happened
  529. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: I could've taken 5 minutes and separated powers
  530. (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: i thought too much of him
  531. (2013-01-27 01:18) cimon: But he came at us from inside, put many folks at
  532. risk, and facing a serious felony he's def the kind of guy that would seel
  533. what little he knows for a break with the Feebs
  534. (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: that's true
  535. (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: he doesn't know much
  536. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: you don't log chat do you?
  537. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): of course not
  538. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): that was the first thing you told me
  539. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: ok good. I was just thinking about it flush
  540. did
  541. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): on day 1
  542. (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): are you serious?
  543. (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: but I've chatted with him quite a bit. he
  544. could have logs
  545. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: he is facing charges right now
  546. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: yea, I dont know for sure
  547. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): he really logged everything?
  548. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): fuckkk him
  549. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: no, just speculating that he might have
  550. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
  551. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): i think it tells you when your being
  552. logged by another user
  553. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): at least i thought it did
  554. (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: it doesn't
  555. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): maybe not
  556. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
  557. (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): damn
  558. (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: Dude, he was a CSR that could read PMs, reset
  559. passwords, mebbe harvest addys while emptying accounts, etc., etc. He was
  560. smart enough to impersonate gooly-dick, take nob for some marching powder,
  561. and all with yer assistance.
  562. (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: yeah, and chat logs
  563. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): he would probably be quick to tell them
  564. everything he knows
  565. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): about SR
  566. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): as leverage
  567. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): they probably would love to get an
  568. inside scoop
  569. (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): to pick his brain
  570. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: exactly
  571. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: they may have already
  572. (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: So, you've had your time to think. You're
  573. sitting in the big chair, and you need to make a decision. Now, really,
  574. things could move fast in the future.
  575. (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: I would have no problem wasting this guy
  576. (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: Well ok then, I'll take care of it.
  577. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): i don't condone murder but thats almost
  578. worthy of assasinating him over lol
  579. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: well, this is the wild west inigo
  580. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: they used to hang cattle theives
  581. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): there are certain rules to the
  582. underworld. and problems can sometimes only be handled one way
  583. (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): thats true
  584. (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: do you mind keeping me abreast
  585. (2013-01-27 01:22) cimon: So, other than that, how's your weekend going?
  586. (2013-01-27 01:23) inigo (laptop): sometimes its the only solution
  587. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: hopefully it won't come to that
  588. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: i wish the best for people in general
  589. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: and love them
  590. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: even flush
  591. (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: it's good
  592. (2013-01-27 01:23) cimon: we'll have 2 opportunies to change gears.
  593. 1- find the fucker and report.
  594. 2- find out what the local skinny is on the guy, gather as much humint
  595. as possible and report.
  596. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): mighty big of you
  597. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): but for the security and future of this
  598. enterprise, he may be too much of a liability
  599. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: yea, i'm getting advise now
  600. (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): i guess you'll have to weigh what he
  601. knows
  602. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: been having fun interspersed with putting out
  603. fires
  604. (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: 3- wait for a go or a no-go.
  605. (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: ok
  606. (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: yeah, I had a great/fucking exhasuting and
  607. exhasperating few days
  608. (2013-01-27 01:25) inigo (laptop): i can only imagine the kind of person
  609. you turn to for advice
  610. (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): at least for a situation like this
  611. (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: heh
  612. (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): some mafia don mentor?
  613. (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: I have excellent advisors
  614. (2013-01-27 01:28) inigo (laptop): or a consiglere
  615. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: selfish bastard
  616. (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: OK - here's what I'm gonna do.
  617. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: get a new lappy
  618. (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: ill pay for it :)
  619. (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: ha!
  620. (2013-01-27 01:29) myself: of course
  621. (2013-01-27 01:29) cimon: Yeah, I won't run one thta's not set up pretty
  622. much like mine now ;)
  623. (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: brb - phon
  624. (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: e
  625. (2013-01-27 01:30) myself: k
  626. (2013-01-27 01:31) inigo (laptop): so i guess the priorites would be 1.)
  627. compiling the list of knowledge he was privy to that he can compromise 2.)
  628. get somebody on top of tracking him down 3.) figure out how to squeeze him
  629. for as much of the money back as possible?
  630. (2013-01-27 01:32) myself: 3 will depend on what we find out in 2
  631. (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): true
  632. (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): i would assume trying to recover money
  633. is more important then just flat out revenge
  634. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): maybe by taking control of his
  635. computers we can get control of his bitcoin addresses
  636. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: revenge isn't in the equation
  637. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: there's money, security, and justice
  638. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: but not revenge
  639. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): justice is the word i was looking for
  640. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): revenge isn't the libertarian way :)
  641. (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: i guess not
  642. (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): deff not your style either
  643. (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: it kills the person seeking it as much as the
  644. one receiving
  645. (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: you wanna know one of my deepest fears in all
  646. of this
  647. (2013-01-27 01:35) inigo (laptop): what's that
  648. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: being wildly successful
  649. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and becoming extremely powerful
  650. (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and being corrupted by that power
  651. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): thats a very real possibility
  652. (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: inigo
  653. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): power has corrupted even some of the
  654. best of men
  655. (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: I need something from you
  656. (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): anything
  657. (2013-01-27 01:37) myself: you need to call me out if ever I am over
  658. confident in my ideas, or abusive of my power
  659. (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): i wouldn't hesitate to
  660. (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): don't worry
  661. (2013-01-27 01:38) myself: thank you
  662. (2013-01-27 01:38) inigo (laptop): especially knowing that's your deepest
  663. fear, i won't let that happen, or at least i'll do anything in my power to
  664. stop you if I notice a seed of power corruption getting to your head
  665. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: yea, even the thought of it makes me shutter
  666. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: and it will start with rationalizations
  667. (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: so don't let me fool you. call a spade a spade
  668. (2013-01-27 01:39) inigo (laptop): understood
  669. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): fortunately, i have faith in your
  670. character and your will power
  671. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): i dont think it will come to that
  672. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): but i will be forever on the ever
  673. vigilant watch
  674. (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): just in case
  675. (2013-01-27 01:40) myself: perfect!
  676. (2013-01-27 01:41) inigo (laptop): i give you my word on that
  677. (2013-01-27 01:41) myself: ya know, in a way I'm glad flush is gone
  678. (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): me too
  679. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: he was kinda manipulating me against you
  680. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: i didn't like that
  681. (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): yeah i really started to not trust him
  682. as time went on
  683. (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: very subtle though, nothing i could really call
  684. him on
  685. (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i started to see the ugly side of his
  686. character
  687. (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i never thought he would go this far
  688. though
  689. (2013-01-27 01:44) inigo (laptop): but he rubbed me more and more as a
  690. sleezy scheemer
  691. (2013-01-27 01:45) inigo (laptop): aparantly he's the kind of guy who has
  692. lied his whole way through life. like when i told him i needed to buy a
  693. car but have terrible credit, he had this whole scheeme that he said he's
  694. been using his whole life where he fakes W-2's and paystubs and basically
  695. commits fraud regularly to qualify for his house and his car and his
  696. business
  697. (2013-01-27 01:46) inigo (laptop): he was trying to get me to do it, but
  698. im not a good liar, and i dont feel comfortable committing fraud like that
  699. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): then his whole multi-level marketing,
  700. amway-type scam shit
  701. (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: yea, i never saw those signs
  702. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): he wanted me to put up some money up
  703. front to get stuck with a cart of vitamins that i was supposed to go to
  704. gyms and try to sell
  705. (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): like wtf
  706. (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: that's odd
  707. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): yeah he was promising all this income
  708. from it, and how he was getting rich because of it and how everyone who
  709. gets in early gets paid the most
  710. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): some pyramid thing
  711. (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): i just kept saying no thanks
  712. (2013-01-27 01:49) inigo (laptop): he was greedy
  713. (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: its hard to judge people
  714. (2013-01-27 01:50) inigo (laptop): yeah its deff easy to say all this
  715. after the fact
  716. (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: and i was a little desperate having lost both
  717. my guys at the same time last time
  718. (2013-01-27 01:51) inigo (laptop): yeah dont get me wrong, you werent at
  719. fault at all, he played his cards perfectly at first, it wasnt until the
  720. last month or so when i started to really get rubbed the wrong way by him
  721. (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he's been connning people most of his
  722. life i suppose
  723. (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he must be good at it
  724. (2013-01-27 01:52) myself: I may not be at fault, but it's my
  725. responsibility. we have to do better going forward bringing people in
  726. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: i have one person i really hope comes on board
  727. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): yeah. more scrutiny. if only we had a
  728. doctor of psycology
  729. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: but i'll want your input if it comes to it
  730. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): to analyze potential employees
  731. (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): sure thing
  732. (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: yea, it's not my area of expertise at all
  733. (2013-01-27 01:53) cimon: You would have surprised me if you had balked at
  734. taking the step, of bluntly, killing Curtis for fucking up just a wee bit
  735. too badly.
  736. Also, if you had balked, I would have seriously re-considered our
  737. relationship.
  738. We're playing for keeps, this just drives it home.
  739. I'm perfectly comfortable with the decision, and I'll sleep like a lamb
  740. tonight, and every night hereafter.
  741. (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): lol yeah thats something you need to
  742. spend a lifetime specializing in
  743. (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): but thats why big corporations hire
  744. them so often
  745. (2013-01-27 01:54) cimon: Let's just try and not make a habit of this,
  746. mkay.
  747. (2013-01-27 01:54) myself: well put
  748. (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): its hard enough figuring out if they
  749. are undercover LE, its even harder to tell what their character is like
  750. (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): over the internet especially
  751. (2013-01-27 02:07) cimon: OK, there is one alternate approach that kills
  752. two birds with one stone, so to speak.
  753. Tell nob, OK, why don't you deal with the problem, just not for at least
  754. one week.
  755. Get the guy who knows a guy to get some guys in place to bat clean-up if
  756. the first string fucks it up.
  757. Same result, and I'd be pretty sure nobs not a fed then.
  758. (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: IF he's a fed, nothing happens. If he's
  759. incompetent, we take out his team and finish the task.
  760. (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: Either way, valuable things would be learned.
  761. (2013-01-27 02:08) myself: take out?
  762. (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Well, figure if his team tries to take the guy
  763. and fails, the best place to be is close enough to deal with it as it
  764. happens.
  765. (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Otherwise, it'd be tough to ever get another
  766. chance.
  767. (2013-01-27 02:10) cimon: He'd likely send in 2 guys, one to cover the
  768. lead.
  769. (2013-01-27 02:11) cimon: We'd cover the cover guy
  770. (2013-01-27 02:12) cimon: If they are getting a beat-down 'cause they
  771. walked into a poker game, not a guy sleeping, they're gonna need some help
  772. getting out of there.
  773. (2013-01-27 02:13) myself: so you steak out curtis and wait for nob to
  774. send in some guys?
  775. (2013-01-27 02:13) cimon: Pretty much. Oh, and re-reading what I said
  776. above, replace "take out his team" with "extract his team"
  777. I was typing and missed your 'take out?' send, :p
  778. (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: ok, good!
  779. (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: i was like, damn we need to have a talk
  780. (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: Our team woujld be like his teams guradian angel
  781. (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: ha!
  782. (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: Hey, nobs guys or not, they'd be on our team,
  783. and we never leave a man behind.
  784. (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: lol, yea
  785. (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: so many miscommunications on this thing i am
  786. sure
  787. (2013-01-27 15:08) Nob: good evening Cabeza
  788. (2013-01-27 15:08) myself: hey nob, how're you?
  789. (2013-01-27 15:09) Nob: good
  790. (2013-01-27 15:09) myself: im still waiting to hear back from googleyed.
  791. I couldn't confirm anything just by looking at his account.
  792. (2013-01-27 15:10) Nob: esta bien, the address that googlyed gave me was
  793. (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: my men shipped the kilo there
  794. (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: that is a business owned by curtis green
  795. (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: so green is the utah guy that stole your money?
  796. (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: yes
  797. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he set something up with googleyed, but they
  798. did it over torchat, so I don't know what it was
  799. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: hopefully googleyed will be forthcoming
  800. (2013-01-27 15:12) Nob: how did he do it? you said that he stole $350,000
  801. (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he had access to the password reset function
  802. (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: he got into several vendor accounts that way
  803. and emptied them
  804. (2013-01-27 15:13) Nob: what was he a programmer or something?
  805. (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: no, he was doing support
  806. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: resolution center admin
  807. (2013-01-27 15:14) Nob: what is support?
  808. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: investigating vendors
  809. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: assisting vendors
  810. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: that kinda stuff
  811. (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: i had him helping you find customers for
  812. example
  813. (2013-01-27 15:15) Nob: oh, well I'm going to need more help in that area;
  814. something es mal con googleyed
  815. (2013-01-27 15:15) myself: yea, I'm really curious what happened
  816. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: but yea, curtis got busted for your key
  817. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: really wierd turn of events
  818. (2013-01-27 15:16) Nob: as we discussed, I reached out and I have two
  819. very, professional individuals that are going to visit green
  820. (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: will they execute him if I want?
  821. (2013-01-27 15:17) Nob: they are very good; yes, but I directed them only
  822. to beat him up; that was your wishes yesterday, correct?
  823. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: yes it was
  824. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: will you be in contact with them when they get
  825. there?
  826. (2013-01-27 15:19) Nob: no, no contact; too risky
  827. (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: ok, so the plan is in motion then?
  828. (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: for them to give him the note and beat him up?
  829. (2013-01-27 15:20) Nob: yes, they have your note and are going to, how do
  830. I say it, torture him
  831. (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: ok, hmmm
  832. (2013-01-27 15:21) Nob: i am paying for this one, but if you want him
  833. killed it will be a lot more and you will have to pay the difference
  834. (2013-01-27 15:21) myself: do they know he was arrested for coke 10 days
  835. ago?
  836. (2013-01-27 15:22) Nob: no the details; they work for an associate of
  837. mine; i have never met them
  838. (2013-01-27 15:22) myself: ok
  839. (2013-01-27 15:23) Nob: do you know what happened? what are the details of
  840. his arrest
  841. (2013-01-27 15:23) myself: I don't know, but I assume it was your key
  842. because it happend right around the same time
  843. (2013-01-27 15:24) Nob: this is why I shouldn't mail; everybody want's
  844. them in the mail
  845. (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: yea, larger stuff is better to do drops
  846. (2013-01-27 15:25) Nob: too risky, not damned methylone and other shit
  847. (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: ok, so can you change the order to execute
  848. rather than torture?
  849. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: he was on the inside for a while, and now that
  850. he's been arrested, I'm afraid he'll give up info
  851. (2013-01-27 15:26) Nob: yes, is that what you want?
  852. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: and he ripped me off
  853. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: it is, after i had a chance to think on it
  854. (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: never killed a man or had one killed before,
  855. but it is the right move in this case.
  856. (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: how much will it cost?
  857. (2013-01-27 15:27) Nob: ok, I was going to pay $5,000 to have him beat up;
  858. I need to contact my associate and ask what the price will be for the deed
  859. (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: ok
  860. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ballpark?
  861. (2013-01-27 15:28) Nob: i have no idea what it will cost
  862. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ok
  863. (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: less than $100k?
  864. (2013-01-27 15:29) Nob: depends, they need to check out the neighborhood,
  865. police force, etc.
  866. (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ok, so you'll let me know
  867. (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ?
  868. (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: yes, give them a couple days to assess the
  869. situation and I will have a price for you
  870. (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: thank you
  871. (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: for you anything, I am sorry that this has
  872. happened
  873. (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: have you killed or had someone killed before?
  874. (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: i'm a good catholic man, but yes I have; sometimes
  875. there are no alternatives
  876. (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: do your fear googleyed is LE?
  877. (2013-01-27 15:31) myself: no
  878. (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: ok, i trust you
  879. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: just my hunch
  880. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: I don't have all the facts
  881. (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: but he's been selling on here for a while
  882. (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: damn
  883. (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: he doesn't trust curtis completely which is a
  884. good sign
  885. (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: i think curtis tricked him into having him send
  886. him the key somehow
  887. (2013-01-27 15:35) Nob: i see
  888. (2013-01-27 15:36) Nob: ok, i will get back to you; stay safe
  889. (2013-01-27 15:36) myself: you too
  890. (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: i talked to nob
  891. (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: he's already mobilizing apparently
  892. (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: well ok then, I think we should take observer
  893. status here.
  894. (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: If you think about it, it REALLY doesn't look
  895. good on nob if a guy he sold to immediately gets buseted
  896. (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: yea, his response was "this is why I ask them
  897. to do drops instead of through the mail"
  898. (2013-01-27 16:32) cimon: gussetet, is like gusseted, from the hillbilly
  899. 'to get all gussied up'
  900. (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: he said he is going to get in touch after his
  901. ground crew surveys the situation
  902. (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: (17:14:27) Dipper: i was like, damn we need to
  903. have a talk
  904. Too funny!
  905. (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: I got confirmation of my story from googleyed
  906. (2013-01-28 17:42) cimon: in case we have any probs, so he has
  907. replacements
  908. (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: and a 3rd address of his
  909. (2013-01-28 17:43) myself: his = curtis
  910. (2013-01-29 12:44) Nob: [delayed] ¿Donde tu estás? Tenemos que hablar.
  911. (2013-01-29 12:44) myself: hola nob
  912. (2013-01-29 12:45) myself: you there?
  913. (2013-01-29 12:46) Nob: sí
  914. (2013-01-29 12:46) myself: what's up?
  915. (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: que tal?
  916. (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: doing all right! can't complain, have friends
  917. like you
  918. (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: :D
  919. (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: look at you hablando
  920. (2013-01-29 12:48) Nob: my guy got back to me at quoted 80K for the hit;
  921. guy lives in a tight neighborhood; going to be hard gettin in and the body
  922. out
  923. (2013-01-29 12:48) myself: ok
  924. (2013-01-29 12:49) Nob: you want to go forward? i assume you are going to
  925. want to move fast
  926. (2013-01-29 12:49) myself: yes, let's do it
  927.  
  928. Case 1:14-cr-00068-KBF
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