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- Compilation of Torchat Logs Seized from Ulbricht Laptop Reflecting
- Communications with SA Force (“Nob”), “Inigo” and “Cimon”
- Between January 26, 2013 at 3:39 a.m. and January 29, 2013 at 12:49 p.m.1
- Torchat communications between Ulbricht and SA Force (“Nob”) are included in their entirety for this designated
- time period. Torchat ommunications between Ulbricht and “Inigo”/”Cimon” are excerpts of relvant portions
- regarding the theft of Bitcoins by Curtis Green, a/k/a “Flush.”
- (2013-01-26 03:39) inigo (laptop): [delayed] i hope you get online soon.
- we are under attack over 100k stolen, shits hitting the fan you need to
- pull the plug on withdrawals
- [delayed] over 300k stolen. i think i figured out how to contain it.
- [delayed] as far as I can tell it was flush, and he managed to steal a
- little over $350k
- [delayed] either that or somebody with access to his account
- [delayed] but my hunch is that it was him.
- [delayed] fortunately i was able to stop it before it got any further
- [delayed] looks like he took 900bitcoins from the petty cash fund, and the
- rest by changing vendors passwords and resetting their pins, and then
- logging into their accounts to wipe out their balances
- [delayed] ive been up all night frantically trying to stop this massive
- theft, i need to catch a few zzz's
- [delayed] ill be back on in a few hours. hopefully in time to see you get
- online
- (2013-01-26 03:41) myself: you there?
- (2013-01-26 04:47) myself: yea, this makes me sick to my stomache. I
- decrypted his ID and did some digging. He was arrested for cocaine
- posession last week. I think this stuff about his daughter was a tale.
- This will be the first time I have had to call on my muscle. fucking
- sucks.
- (2013-01-26 10:42) Nob: [delayed] my friend you up
- (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: i am
- (2013-01-26 10:43) myself: how are you amigo?
- (2013-01-26 10:43) Nob: I'm tired D, real tired
- (2013-01-26 10:44) myself: not enough sleep?
- (2013-01-26 10:44) Nob: no I'm working too hard. overseeing three good
- size loads coming from South America up here into U.S.
- (2013-01-26 10:45) myself: lots of people to coordinate?
- (2013-01-26 10:46) Nob: yes, heah i just saw your message on SR
- (2013-01-26 10:46) myself: yea, not a ton of money, but it pisses me off
- to no end. I trusted the guy too much
- (2013-01-26 10:47) Nob: ok, who is it and where is he
- (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: ill send you his ID
- (2013-01-26 10:48) Nob: how?
- (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: I had him send it to me when I hired him
- (2013-01-26 10:48) myself: for just this kind of situation
- (2013-01-26 10:49) myself: he was recently arrested for cocaine possession
- on Jan 17th
- (2013-01-26 10:50) Nob: that wasn't the kilo that I sent was it. because
- I'm going to be pissed
- (2013-01-26 10:50) myself: did you send it to UTAH?
- (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes, it's an address that googleyed gave to me.
- and i'm having problems with him/her
- (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: are you serious!
- (2013-01-26 10:52) Nob: yes what the mierda
- (2013-01-26 10:52) myself: mierda?
- (2013-01-26 10:53) Nob: what you want done? what the fuck is up with the
- googleyed. i don't need this shit
- (2013-01-26 10:54) Nob: and who is the frickin idiot?
- (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: I'm incredibly sorry nob, but this guy on the
- ID
- (2013-01-26 10:54) myself: he's the one I asked to set you up with vendors
- (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he must have somehow tricked you into sending
- the kilo to him instead of googleyed
- (2013-01-26 10:55) Nob: ok what do you want done with him?
- (2013-01-26 10:55) myself: he then took advantage of some of the tools I
- gave him to do vendor support to rip a bunch of vendors off, who I will
- have to compensate
- (2013-01-26 10:56) Nob: i'm not worried. i didn't send it out. but
- googleyed worries me. you sure he/she is ok?
- (2013-01-26 10:56) inigo (laptop): im back online now
- (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I'm not sure about googleyed. they were locked
- out of their account by this guy 24 hours ago
- (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: more like 12 hours ago
- (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): if you want me to get on a plane and go
- find him, just say the word
- (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: I have someone on it
- (2013-01-26 10:57) myself: thank you though
- (2013-01-26 10:57) inigo (laptop): i really wish i could have figured it
- out faster and stopped him before he took so much
- (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: you didn't send the kilo? or are you talking
- about a second order?
- (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): i noticed it as soon as he started,
- luckily, but it took me a few hours to figure out what was happeneing and
- realize how to stop it
- (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: how did you stop it?
- (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): by resetting the password to his
- account
- (2013-01-26 10:58) myself: oh, smart
- (2013-01-26 10:58) inigo (laptop): as soon as i did that the stealing
- stopped
- (2013-01-26 10:59) Nob: i sent the kilo and G-eyed did pay so. G-eyed is
- talking about doing a second order for five kilos to the UK.
- (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: you sent one kilo to the utah address?
- (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): i was watching the bitcoin address that
- he was sending all the coins to
- (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): 20000 btc by the time i cut off his
- admin access
- (2013-01-26 10:59) myself: I even had the thought that I was putting too
- much trust in you guys and should give one pin reset power and the other
- pass reset power
- (2013-01-26 10:59) inigo (laptop): that would have been a good idea
- (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i wish i had a kill switch
- (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): for the site
- (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): or for withdrawals at least
- (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: withdrawals at least
- (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): i could have stopped it at under $60k
- (2013-01-26 11:00) myself: yea, a w/d kill switch is a good idea
- (2013-01-26 11:00) inigo (laptop): im sorry it got so far. but i hate to
- think how much more he could have stolen
- (2013-01-26 11:01) inigo (laptop): i just wish i could have been faster
- (2013-01-26 11:02) inigo (laptop): 350k is a lot of money. it will take
- him a while to cash it all out. if we can find him first maybe something
- can be done
- (2013-01-26 11:03) Nob: yes a utah address, but like i said; i didn't send
- it so i'll have to reach out and get the exact address
- (2013-01-26 11:03) myself: let me see if I understand...
- (2013-01-26 11:04) Nob: i had my people send it. i never touch the dope
- (2013-01-26 11:04) myself: you sent a kilo to geyed, which he received.
- where did you send that one? who asked for the kilo to utah?
- (2013-01-26 11:04) inigo (laptop): it was sheer luck that i noticed it, i
- had sent my coins to sugar mama to cash out my paycheck, and i kept
- looking her up to see if she was back online because im flat broke and was
- really antsy for her to send me the MP codes (which she still hasnt done
- thanks to this mess) and then i noticed her balance drop to 0, and she
- made a forum post about it
- (2013-01-26 11:05) Nob: googleyed gave me an address in utah to send the
- kilo. googleyed requested that the kilo go to utah.
- (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): so i started to investigate, searched
- the bitcoin address that her coins were withdrawn to, and noticed that 4
- top vendors had withdrawn to the same address
- (2013-01-26 11:05) inigo (laptop): about 1000 bitcoins from each
- (2013-01-26 11:06) Nob: g-eyed said she got it that is why she finalized,
- but he/she isn't leaving feedback on SR which is pissing me off
- (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): then i started talking with sugar mama
- and figured out that her pin and pass had been reset, and that led me to
- realize it was someone with admin access and not a virus or malicous code
- (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): so then i just thought the best shot i
- had to stop it was reset flush's password
- (2013-01-26 11:06) inigo (laptop): cut off his admin access
- (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: where was the first kilo sent?
- (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: was it ireland?
- (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: to utah
- (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: do you have the exact address?
- (2013-01-26 11:07) Nob: next five kilos are supposed to go to ireland
- (2013-01-26 11:07) myself: does it match the id?
- (2013-01-26 11:08) myself: ok, don't send them until I get to the bottom
- of this
- (2013-01-26 11:08) Nob: i have to call back to my guy who sent the kilo
- for me
- (2013-01-26 11:08) inigo (laptop): by then his address had racked up 20k
- btc
- (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): also, what really led me to thinking it
- was him, was the fact that sealswithclubs got ddos'd yesterday
- (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and was held at ransom
- (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: oh damn
- (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): and theres only one person i know with
- ties to SR and sealswithclubs
- (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: what sleaze
- (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): flush told me that he knew the owner
- really well
- (2013-01-26 11:09) myself: he told me that too
- (2013-01-26 11:09) inigo (laptop): yeah so he must have organized an
- attack on his site as well
- (2013-01-26 11:10) Nob: yes, i need you to let me know what is going on
- (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): some desperate attempt to get as much
- as he could in one day
- (2013-01-26 11:10) inigo (laptop): fucking scumbag
- (2013-01-26 11:10) myself: so, I have a friend that smuggles heroin for
- cartels. I'm chatting with him now. he has muscle everywhere and will
- get to him quickly.
- (2013-01-26 11:11) myself: I will. what do you want to do about Curtis
- (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): ah you must be referring to the guy
- that was offering free full auto AR's with his heroin
- (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): the guy with ties to FARC
- (2013-01-26 11:11) inigo (laptop): nob or something like that
- (2013-01-26 11:12) myself: If you can get someone to force him to return
- the stolen funds, that would be amazing
- (2013-01-26 11:12) Nob: personally, I don't want any contact. i'm clear.
- if you want something done, i can help you discreetly
- (2013-01-26 11:12) inigo (laptop): if thats who your talking about, then
- he would seem like the perfect person for the job
- (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: what do you mean?
- (2013-01-26 11:13) myself: this is someone else
- (2013-01-26 11:13) inigo (laptop): oh ok
- (2013-01-26 11:14) inigo (laptop): i can't believe he pulled this. some
- people are hard to read
- (2013-01-26 11:15) Nob: do you want him beat up. shot, just paid a visit?
- (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): so just out of curiousity i pulled up
- the messages from "chronicpain" since he revealed thats who he used to be
- (2013-01-26 11:16) inigo (laptop): he was logged in 17 hours ago
- (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: I'd like him beat up, then forced to send the
- bitcoins he stole back. like sit him down at his computer and make him do
- it
- (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: beat up only if he doesn't comply I guess
- (2013-01-26 11:17) myself: not sure how these things usually go
- (2013-01-26 11:18) Nob: remember that guy in Africa? you wanted me to put
- a gun to that guy's head while he is logged on SR and take a picture. you
- want that?
- (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: no thanks
- (2013-01-26 11:18) myself: just don't want him to have that money
- (2013-01-26 11:19) Nob: ok, you just want him beat up and send you money
- back; the guy I'm going to send knows nothing about computers so he won't
- know whether or not the mark has the funds or even if he sent it
- (2013-01-26 11:20) myself: we could give him a letter to give curtis
- (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: so the message doesn't get mixed up
- (2013-01-26 11:21) myself: and if I know when he is paying him a visit, I
- can tell him to log on to torchat to talk to me while your man is there
- (2013-01-26 11:22) myself: so I can be loged in when he goes to his house
- (2013-01-26 11:22) Nob: ok, you write the letter and send it to me. i'll
- get the exact address where the kilo was sent. please check into
- googleyed, this doesn't make sense to me
- (2013-01-26 11:23) myself: ok
- (2013-01-26 11:23) Nob: just forget about googleyed, i'm cutting ties
- (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: be back in contact later today or tomorrow; stay
- out of trouble, i can't loose you now
- (2013-01-26 11:24) Nob: should be can't lose you now, frickin spanish to
- english bullshit ... so tired can't think straight
- (2013-01-26 11:24) myself: how quickly do you think you can get someone
- over there? and what does that cost you? is it worth the hassle?
- (2013-01-26 11:25) Nob: not sure. it is going to cost money because it's
- not my people
- (2013-01-26 11:26) myself: ok, if it costs more than we can recover, then
- obviously we should not go through with it
- (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: shit, shit, shit; we don't need this, one step
- forward, two steps back
- (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: i know, it's a pain
- (2013-01-26 11:27) Nob: ok talk at you
- (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: we don't have to do anything if you don't want
- (2013-01-26 11:27) myself: talk to you soon
- (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: ok, i'll let you know
- (2013-01-26 11:28) Nob: i'm confident that I'm clear; googleyed on the
- other hand
- (2013-01-26 11:29) inigo (laptop): weird
- (2013-01-26 11:32) inigo (laptop): flush has to be an idiot to steal from
- you knowing that you know where he lives. he must be going on the run
- (2013-01-26 11:32) myself: maybe so
- (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: i assumed that would be enough to deter him
- from doing anything like this
- (2013-01-26 11:33) inigo (laptop): you may need to hire some private eyes
- to find him. somebody thats a pro in finding fugatives and missing people
- (2013-01-26 11:33) myself: yea
- (2013-01-26 11:34) inigo (laptop): like i said if need be you always have
- me at your disposal if you locate him and need somebody to go handle it
- (2013-01-26 11:35) myself: thanks. I want to go kick his ass myself, but
- let's leave it to the pros
- (2013-01-26 11:35) inigo (laptop): k
- (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: here's the note
- (2013-01-26 11:46) myself: Curtis,
- Send the bitcoins you stole to the following address immediately:
- 1p6QfxXEdHTFPkVPx1nFJXqpfiyEKXBNG
- Tell the person who just gave you this note after one confirmation on the
- blockchain.
- -DPR
- (2013-01-26 11:47) myself: then we'd have to get the guy to give us
- confirmation so we can check the blockchain.
- (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: I'd actually like to go through with this even
- if it costs more than we can recover. I would like the experience in case
- something like this happens again.
- (2013-01-26 11:48) myself: you there?
- (2013-01-26 11:48) inigo (laptop): yep
- (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, let's tackle the support page until we have
- everything zeroed
- (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: what are you working on right now?
- (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): customer messages
- (2013-01-26 11:49) myself: ok, I'll do vendor messages
- (2013-01-26 11:49) inigo (laptop): k
- (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: ok got it. i'll get back to you with address and
- see if I can get a "friend" over to visit your guy
- (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: ok
- (2013-01-26 11:50) myself: thanks nob
- (2013-01-26 11:50) Nob: no problem my friend. te amo
- (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: while I'm fixing this...
- (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: your with me right inigo?
- (2013-01-26 13:24) inigo (laptop): yes sir
- (2013-01-26 13:24) myself: i mean... long term
- (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: I don't know what I'm doing wrong
- (2013-01-26 13:25) myself: or if im doing anything wrong
- (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): oh yeah absolutely. i swore my loyalty
- to you
- (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): and i will stick by that
- (2013-01-26 13:25) inigo (laptop): i take pride in my loyalty above all my
- other characteristics
- (2013-01-26 13:26) inigo (laptop): where i lack in other fields, you'll at
- least get your value out of me by having somebody loyal for life :)
- (2013-01-26 13:26) myself: thank you
- (2013-01-26 13:27) inigo (laptop): you've given me a chance at a
- financially secure future that i didn't have before. while flush may have
- been a greedy scumbag, im here for the long run, if anything just to show
- my graditude
- (2013-01-26 13:28) myself: maybe guys like us are just rarer than I'd
- hoped
- (2013-01-26 13:29) inigo (laptop): he clearly didn't want to wait, and
- wanted to get rich quick. im willing to put in the long hours now and even
- stuggle a little bit financially, because i know that in the long run it
- will pay off and in a few years i figure ill be making enough that i wont
- have to worry about money
- (2013-01-26 13:30) inigo (laptop): [delayed] even if its 5-10 years from
- now, i see the long run opportunity
- (2013-01-26 13:31) myself: that's good, so do I, obviously.
- (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): ive only been with you for three
- months, so i don't expect to have a new car and a nice place to live and
- all that good stuff just yet. im willing to earn it.
- (2013-01-26 13:33) inigo (laptop): what other details did you find out
- about flush's arrest?
- (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): did it say how much he was caught with?
- (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: I haven't dug into it yet
- (2013-01-26 13:34) inigo (laptop): yeah i guess its pretty early
- (2013-01-26 13:34) myself: we want to move quickly, but I gave the whole
- mess over to my guy
- (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): just to confirm that he gave you his
- real ID, i was able to aquire what i believe to be his identity from the
- info he revealed to me
- (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: oh really?
- (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): i made him as Curtis Green from
- , Utag
- (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): utah
- (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: yep
- (2013-01-26 13:35) myself: how'd you manage that?
- (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): ok good so that wasn't a fake id
- (2013-01-26 13:35) inigo (laptop): he told me about this website that he
- owns
- (2013-01-26 13:36) myself: what is it?
- (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): .com
- (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): he was trying to recuit me to this
- multi level marketing scam
- (2013-01-26 13:36) inigo (laptop): so today i looked up who owns that site
- (2013-01-26 13:37) myself: this guy is an idiot
- (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): he also owns a company called anytime
- airport shuttle or something like that
- (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): yeah
- (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i found his twitter account too
- (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): had a picture of the SR logo as his
- profile pic
- (2013-01-26 13:37) inigo (laptop): i couldn't believe it
- (2013-01-26 13:38) inigo (laptop): hasn't made an update since jan 5th tho
- (2013-01-26 13:39) myself: what's the name of the twitter account?
- (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): one sec
- (2013-01-26 13:39) inigo (laptop): https://twitter.com/
- (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): that twitter page also links to his
- dads charity's website that he manages
- (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): .com
- (2013-01-26 13:40) myself: the more you can give me the better
- (2013-01-26 13:40) inigo (laptop): he frequents poker tournys in vegas
- (2013-01-26 13:42) inigo (laptop): he owns the email address
- indolor12@yahoo.com
- (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): although i couldn't find a record of
- that email anywhere online
- (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): seemed to be a dead end lead
- (2013-01-26 13:43) inigo (laptop): idk what the address on his ID is, but
- i have him at
- (2013-01-26 13:44) myself: that's the same
- (2013-01-26 13:45) inigo (laptop): i also have two previous addresses
- associated with his name:
- (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): here's his amazon wishlist:
- http://www.amazon.com/gp/registry/registry.html?ie=
- (2013-01-26 13:46) inigo (laptop): lol
- (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i think his daughter's name is
- and his wife's name is
- (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: how do you know that?
- (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop):
- (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): i have a subscription
- (2013-01-26 13:47) myself: whats that?
- (2013-01-26 13:47) inigo (laptop): for situaitons like this
- (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): its a website that pulls up info on
- people
- (2013-01-26 13:48) myself: oh ok
- (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): previous addresses, relatives
- (2013-01-26 13:48) inigo (laptop): etc
- (2013-01-26 13:51) inigo (laptop): my grandparents on my dads side live in
- vegas, they're both in their 90's living on their own with lots of health
- problems, if he turns up at some poker tourny out there i could kill two
- birds with one stone by visiting them and doing some reconossaince mission
- on our friend curtis here lol. just keep that in mind in case the
- opportunity arrises
- (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: be on the look out for vendors screwed by flush
- trying to get back in
- (2013-01-26 16:36) myself: those ones i mentioned before
- (2013-01-26 16:36) inigo (laptop): will do
- (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i found the account that he was sending
- the password resets to last night. i dont know if that helps, but it gave
- me a list of all the vendors he screwed
- (2013-01-26 16:37) inigo (laptop): i guess you have that same list tho
- (2013-01-26 16:37) myself: yea, I dug through all that as well
- (2013-01-26 16:38) inigo (laptop): ok
- (2013-01-26 20:00) cimon: Hey there, sexy man. Come in, welcome, buy me a
- drink.
- (2013-01-26 20:37) myself: [delayed] sup sup
- (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed] oops missed ya. had a little mishap
- today I need to run by you. had a csr go rogue and rip me off for $350k
- (2013-01-26 20:38) myself: [delayed messages have been sent]
- (2013-01-27 00:42) myself: hey, you around?
- (2013-01-27 00:43) cimon: yes, give me 5 mins first
- (2013-01-27 00:43) myself: no rush
- (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: OK. Howdy, doodie.
- (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: 350k, eh
- (2013-01-27 00:47) cimon: fucker
- (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: yea, I didn't expect him to do it because I
- have his id
- (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: REALLY
- (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: but I left myself open to it
- (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: well, tell me a tale Uncle Robert
- (2013-01-27 00:48) myself: gave him pin and password reset capabilities.
- it was dumb
- (2013-01-27 00:48) cimon: ahh - I follow
- (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: enough about the theft, tell me about the organ
- donor
- (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: I even though I shouldn't, but then I thought,
- since i have the id, he'd never do it
- (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: and he did
- (2013-01-27 00:49) myself: you wanna see his id?
- (2013-01-27 00:49) cimon: How sure are you it's really his ID
- (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: oh yeah, I'm gonna have a chat with him
- (2013-01-27 00:50) myself: pretty damn sure
- (2013-01-27 00:50) cimon: <-- could use some exercise
- (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: the story gets moreinteresting
- (2013-01-27 00:51) cimon: Well, I'm sure we can tell the diff IRL in real
- life betwen some schmoe who has his info lifted, and a guy who's on tor
- and also just got 350 k
- (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: its deffo him
- (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: unless he's super clever
- (2013-01-27 00:51) myself: and he isnt
- (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: yeah, that ID looks pretty good
- (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: the other csr confirmed alot
- (2013-01-27 00:52) cimon: have you run any online searches to see if you
- can match the addy
- (2013-01-27 00:52) myself: lemme tell you the rest of the story
- (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: nob has been bugging me off and on
- (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: since you last spoke to him
- (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: checking in every few weeks
- (2013-01-27 00:53) cimon: Gor for it, I'm gonna have me an afternoon
- spliff before my nap -- Davids truck broke down, so I'm running the bar
- until 4 am tonight
- (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i told him I'd find him a buyer from the
- current vendors
- (2013-01-27 00:53) myself: i put this guy on the task
- (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: curtis
- (2013-01-27 00:54) myself: i haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet, but
- somehow he impersonated googleyed or something and got nob to ship him a
- key of columbias finest
- (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: now if you google his name, one of the first
- things that comes up is an arrest on Jan 17
- (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: for cocaine posession
- (2013-01-27 00:55) myself: like 10 days ago
- (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: fuck
- (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: I know, right?
- (2013-01-27 00:56) cimon: <-- is pissin self
- (2013-01-27 00:56) myself: so nob is pissed. I gave him his info when he
- asked for it
- (2013-01-27 00:57) myself: he won't do anything without my go though, I
- don't think
- (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: yeah, he's been busted for coke. Write off the
- money, no way I'd send anyone in there, or go myself, with that kind of
- heat, especially since he may still roll on SR for leniency.
- (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: ok
- (2013-01-27 00:58) myself: i just hate getting ripped off
- (2013-01-27 00:58) cimon: HOWEVER, it certainly fucking gives nob a wee
- bit o' credibility.
- (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: yea, nobs legit, but not quite as big time as
- he was making himself out to be
- (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: Oh, I have a long memory, and the time to deal
- with Curtis is after he's out of his current predicament.
- (2013-01-27 00:59) cimon: I'll get on tracking him
- (2013-01-27 00:59) myself: says he makes 25 mil a year
- (2013-01-27 01:00) myself: yea, but that money won't last long
- (2013-01-27 01:04) cimon: Sorry, back to Curtis for a sec. Since Smed is
- behind, instead of having Irish come out here in a few days, I can have
- him skip to Utah and see if this whole Curtis thing smells at all. Dumb
- Irishmen that can't use a smart phone don't fit our profile, so I'm sure
- he'd be cool.
- (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: that's fine with me
- (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: would be good to put eyeballs on this guy
- (2013-01-27 01:05) myself: he may be in a jail cell for all we know though
- (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: Irish always knows a guy who knows a guy, we'd
- get a better handle on what's going on.
- (2013-01-27 01:07) cimon: I'd be most curious about his living
- arrangements, did they go nuts seizing computer stuff, or just grab the
- guy and the drugs. Gotta talk to the neighbors, man, ya *always* gotta
- talk to the neighbors.
- (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: It's the shit that happened AFTER the bust that
- tells us what they're looking at now
- (2013-01-27 01:08) cimon: when did he liberate the 350
- (2013-01-27 01:08) myself: lemme get an exact
- (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: around
- (2013-01-27 01:09) myself: January 26, 2013, 8:50 am UTC
- (2013-01-27 01:09) cimon: So he ain't in jail
- (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: and his computer shit wasn't taken
- (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: so the feds have no linke there. Yet. He still
- has lots of time to deal.
- (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: so he must be out on bail?
- (2013-01-27 01:10) myself: he might be fleeing
- (2013-01-27 01:10) cimon: One would think.
- (2013-01-27 01:11) cimon: well, he does have 350k, but it takes time to
- clear that, so he may be holding fast until he can get it out.
- (2013-01-27 01:11) myself: but with an arrest, seems like it would be hard
- to flee
- (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: he sent the money to one address
- (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: 127B3qwztPyA67uq63LG8G5izwhFcJ7j4A
- (2013-01-27 01:12) myself: which still has 15k on it
- (2013-01-27 01:13) cimon: As a side note, at what point in time do we
- decide we've had enough of someones shit, and terminate them? Like, does
- impersonating a vendor to rip off a mid-level drug lord, using our rep and
- system; follows up by stealing from our vendors and clients and breeding
- fear and mis-trust, does that come close in yer opinion?
- (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: terminate?
- (2013-01-27 01:14) myself: execute?
- (2013-01-27 01:14) cimon: Not to mention that whole common law breach of
- fiduciary duties and duty of care
- (2013-01-27 01:15) myself: if this was the wild west, and it kinda is,
- you'd get hung just for stealing a horse
- (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: Yeah, pretty much. At what point in time is that
- the response. We're playing with big money with serious people, and that's
- the world they live in.
- (2013-01-27 01:15) cimon: I sure as fuck don't want nob to try it, fuck
- up, and then have our laundry aired.
- (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: unfortunately, there isn't much inbetween
- (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: I know a guy, and he knows a guy who knows a
- guy, that gets things done.
- (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: in a perfect world, we'd get the money back,
- plus our expenses and maybe beat him up or something
- (2013-01-27 01:16) myself: but that's not realistic
- (2013-01-27 01:16) cimon: Nope. And it ain't the money, fuck, it's your
- fault, no one elses. Someday I'll tell you a long story from a guy who
- explained to me why situations like this are always yer own fault.
- (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: so yea, it's a good quesiton I've been thinking
- about the last 24 hours
- (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: oh it's my fault. I even thought of it before
- it happened
- (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: I could've taken 5 minutes and separated powers
- (2013-01-27 01:17) myself: i thought too much of him
- (2013-01-27 01:18) cimon: But he came at us from inside, put many folks at
- risk, and facing a serious felony he's def the kind of guy that would seel
- what little he knows for a break with the Feebs
- (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: that's true
- (2013-01-27 01:18) myself: he doesn't know much
- (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: you don't log chat do you?
- (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): of course not
- (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): that was the first thing you told me
- (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: ok good. I was just thinking about it flush
- did
- (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): on day 1
- (2013-01-27 01:19) inigo (laptop): are you serious?
- (2013-01-27 01:19) myself: but I've chatted with him quite a bit. he
- could have logs
- (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: he is facing charges right now
- (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: yea, I dont know for sure
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): he really logged everything?
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): fuckkk him
- (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: no, just speculating that he might have
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): i think it tells you when your being
- logged by another user
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): at least i thought it did
- (2013-01-27 01:20) myself: it doesn't
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): maybe not
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): oh
- (2013-01-27 01:20) inigo (laptop): damn
- (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: Dude, he was a CSR that could read PMs, reset
- passwords, mebbe harvest addys while emptying accounts, etc., etc. He was
- smart enough to impersonate gooly-dick, take nob for some marching powder,
- and all with yer assistance.
- (2013-01-27 01:20) cimon: yeah, and chat logs
- (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): he would probably be quick to tell them
- everything he knows
- (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): about SR
- (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): as leverage
- (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): they probably would love to get an
- inside scoop
- (2013-01-27 01:21) inigo (laptop): to pick his brain
- (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: exactly
- (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: they may have already
- (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: So, you've had your time to think. You're
- sitting in the big chair, and you need to make a decision. Now, really,
- things could move fast in the future.
- (2013-01-27 01:21) myself: I would have no problem wasting this guy
- (2013-01-27 01:21) cimon: Well ok then, I'll take care of it.
- (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): i don't condone murder but thats almost
- worthy of assasinating him over lol
- (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: well, this is the wild west inigo
- (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: they used to hang cattle theives
- (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): there are certain rules to the
- underworld. and problems can sometimes only be handled one way
- (2013-01-27 01:22) inigo (laptop): thats true
- (2013-01-27 01:22) myself: do you mind keeping me abreast
- (2013-01-27 01:22) cimon: So, other than that, how's your weekend going?
- (2013-01-27 01:23) inigo (laptop): sometimes its the only solution
- (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: hopefully it won't come to that
- (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: i wish the best for people in general
- (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: and love them
- (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: even flush
- (2013-01-27 01:23) myself: it's good
- (2013-01-27 01:23) cimon: we'll have 2 opportunies to change gears.
- 1- find the fucker and report.
- 2- find out what the local skinny is on the guy, gather as much humint
- as possible and report.
- (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): mighty big of you
- (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): but for the security and future of this
- enterprise, he may be too much of a liability
- (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: yea, i'm getting advise now
- (2013-01-27 01:24) inigo (laptop): i guess you'll have to weigh what he
- knows
- (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: been having fun interspersed with putting out
- fires
- (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: 3- wait for a go or a no-go.
- (2013-01-27 01:24) myself: ok
- (2013-01-27 01:24) cimon: yeah, I had a great/fucking exhasuting and
- exhasperating few days
- (2013-01-27 01:25) inigo (laptop): i can only imagine the kind of person
- you turn to for advice
- (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): at least for a situation like this
- (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: heh
- (2013-01-27 01:27) inigo (laptop): some mafia don mentor?
- (2013-01-27 01:27) myself: I have excellent advisors
- (2013-01-27 01:28) inigo (laptop): or a consiglere
- (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: selfish bastard
- (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: OK - here's what I'm gonna do.
- (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: get a new lappy
- (2013-01-27 01:28) myself: ill pay for it :)
- (2013-01-27 01:28) cimon: ha!
- (2013-01-27 01:29) myself: of course
- (2013-01-27 01:29) cimon: Yeah, I won't run one thta's not set up pretty
- much like mine now ;)
- (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: brb - phon
- (2013-01-27 01:30) cimon: e
- (2013-01-27 01:30) myself: k
- (2013-01-27 01:31) inigo (laptop): so i guess the priorites would be 1.)
- compiling the list of knowledge he was privy to that he can compromise 2.)
- get somebody on top of tracking him down 3.) figure out how to squeeze him
- for as much of the money back as possible?
- (2013-01-27 01:32) myself: 3 will depend on what we find out in 2
- (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): true
- (2013-01-27 01:32) inigo (laptop): i would assume trying to recover money
- is more important then just flat out revenge
- (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): maybe by taking control of his
- computers we can get control of his bitcoin addresses
- (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: revenge isn't in the equation
- (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: there's money, security, and justice
- (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: but not revenge
- (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): justice is the word i was looking for
- (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): revenge isn't the libertarian way :)
- (2013-01-27 01:33) myself: i guess not
- (2013-01-27 01:33) inigo (laptop): deff not your style either
- (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: it kills the person seeking it as much as the
- one receiving
- (2013-01-27 01:34) myself: you wanna know one of my deepest fears in all
- of this
- (2013-01-27 01:35) inigo (laptop): what's that
- (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: being wildly successful
- (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and becoming extremely powerful
- (2013-01-27 01:35) myself: and being corrupted by that power
- (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): thats a very real possibility
- (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: inigo
- (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): power has corrupted even some of the
- best of men
- (2013-01-27 01:36) myself: I need something from you
- (2013-01-27 01:36) inigo (laptop): anything
- (2013-01-27 01:37) myself: you need to call me out if ever I am over
- confident in my ideas, or abusive of my power
- (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): i wouldn't hesitate to
- (2013-01-27 01:37) inigo (laptop): don't worry
- (2013-01-27 01:38) myself: thank you
- (2013-01-27 01:38) inigo (laptop): especially knowing that's your deepest
- fear, i won't let that happen, or at least i'll do anything in my power to
- stop you if I notice a seed of power corruption getting to your head
- (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: yea, even the thought of it makes me shutter
- (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: and it will start with rationalizations
- (2013-01-27 01:39) myself: so don't let me fool you. call a spade a spade
- (2013-01-27 01:39) inigo (laptop): understood
- (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): fortunately, i have faith in your
- character and your will power
- (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): i dont think it will come to that
- (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): but i will be forever on the ever
- vigilant watch
- (2013-01-27 01:40) inigo (laptop): just in case
- (2013-01-27 01:40) myself: perfect!
- (2013-01-27 01:41) inigo (laptop): i give you my word on that
- (2013-01-27 01:41) myself: ya know, in a way I'm glad flush is gone
- (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): me too
- (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: he was kinda manipulating me against you
- (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: i didn't like that
- (2013-01-27 01:42) inigo (laptop): yeah i really started to not trust him
- as time went on
- (2013-01-27 01:42) myself: very subtle though, nothing i could really call
- him on
- (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i started to see the ugly side of his
- character
- (2013-01-27 01:43) inigo (laptop): i never thought he would go this far
- though
- (2013-01-27 01:44) inigo (laptop): but he rubbed me more and more as a
- sleezy scheemer
- (2013-01-27 01:45) inigo (laptop): aparantly he's the kind of guy who has
- lied his whole way through life. like when i told him i needed to buy a
- car but have terrible credit, he had this whole scheeme that he said he's
- been using his whole life where he fakes W-2's and paystubs and basically
- commits fraud regularly to qualify for his house and his car and his
- business
- (2013-01-27 01:46) inigo (laptop): he was trying to get me to do it, but
- im not a good liar, and i dont feel comfortable committing fraud like that
- (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): then his whole multi-level marketing,
- amway-type scam shit
- (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: yea, i never saw those signs
- (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): he wanted me to put up some money up
- front to get stuck with a cart of vitamins that i was supposed to go to
- gyms and try to sell
- (2013-01-27 01:47) inigo (laptop): like wtf
- (2013-01-27 01:47) myself: that's odd
- (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): yeah he was promising all this income
- from it, and how he was getting rich because of it and how everyone who
- gets in early gets paid the most
- (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): some pyramid thing
- (2013-01-27 01:48) inigo (laptop): i just kept saying no thanks
- (2013-01-27 01:49) inigo (laptop): he was greedy
- (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: its hard to judge people
- (2013-01-27 01:50) inigo (laptop): yeah its deff easy to say all this
- after the fact
- (2013-01-27 01:50) myself: and i was a little desperate having lost both
- my guys at the same time last time
- (2013-01-27 01:51) inigo (laptop): yeah dont get me wrong, you werent at
- fault at all, he played his cards perfectly at first, it wasnt until the
- last month or so when i started to really get rubbed the wrong way by him
- (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he's been connning people most of his
- life i suppose
- (2013-01-27 01:52) inigo (laptop): he must be good at it
- (2013-01-27 01:52) myself: I may not be at fault, but it's my
- responsibility. we have to do better going forward bringing people in
- (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: i have one person i really hope comes on board
- (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): yeah. more scrutiny. if only we had a
- doctor of psycology
- (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: but i'll want your input if it comes to it
- (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): to analyze potential employees
- (2013-01-27 01:53) inigo (laptop): sure thing
- (2013-01-27 01:53) myself: yea, it's not my area of expertise at all
- (2013-01-27 01:53) cimon: You would have surprised me if you had balked at
- taking the step, of bluntly, killing Curtis for fucking up just a wee bit
- too badly.
- Also, if you had balked, I would have seriously re-considered our
- relationship.
- We're playing for keeps, this just drives it home.
- I'm perfectly comfortable with the decision, and I'll sleep like a lamb
- tonight, and every night hereafter.
- (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): lol yeah thats something you need to
- spend a lifetime specializing in
- (2013-01-27 01:54) inigo (laptop): but thats why big corporations hire
- them so often
- (2013-01-27 01:54) cimon: Let's just try and not make a habit of this,
- mkay.
- (2013-01-27 01:54) myself: well put
- (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): its hard enough figuring out if they
- are undercover LE, its even harder to tell what their character is like
- (2013-01-27 01:55) inigo (laptop): over the internet especially
- (2013-01-27 02:07) cimon: OK, there is one alternate approach that kills
- two birds with one stone, so to speak.
- Tell nob, OK, why don't you deal with the problem, just not for at least
- one week.
- Get the guy who knows a guy to get some guys in place to bat clean-up if
- the first string fucks it up.
- Same result, and I'd be pretty sure nobs not a fed then.
- (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: IF he's a fed, nothing happens. If he's
- incompetent, we take out his team and finish the task.
- (2013-01-27 02:08) cimon: Either way, valuable things would be learned.
- (2013-01-27 02:08) myself: take out?
- (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Well, figure if his team tries to take the guy
- and fails, the best place to be is close enough to deal with it as it
- happens.
- (2013-01-27 02:09) cimon: Otherwise, it'd be tough to ever get another
- chance.
- (2013-01-27 02:10) cimon: He'd likely send in 2 guys, one to cover the
- lead.
- (2013-01-27 02:11) cimon: We'd cover the cover guy
- (2013-01-27 02:12) cimon: If they are getting a beat-down 'cause they
- walked into a poker game, not a guy sleeping, they're gonna need some help
- getting out of there.
- (2013-01-27 02:13) myself: so you steak out curtis and wait for nob to
- send in some guys?
- (2013-01-27 02:13) cimon: Pretty much. Oh, and re-reading what I said
- above, replace "take out his team" with "extract his team"
- I was typing and missed your 'take out?' send, :p
- (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: ok, good!
- (2013-01-27 02:14) myself: i was like, damn we need to have a talk
- (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: Our team woujld be like his teams guradian angel
- (2013-01-27 02:14) cimon: ha!
- (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: Hey, nobs guys or not, they'd be on our team,
- and we never leave a man behind.
- (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: lol, yea
- (2013-01-27 02:15) myself: so many miscommunications on this thing i am
- sure
- (2013-01-27 15:08) Nob: good evening Cabeza
- (2013-01-27 15:08) myself: hey nob, how're you?
- (2013-01-27 15:09) Nob: good
- (2013-01-27 15:09) myself: im still waiting to hear back from googleyed.
- I couldn't confirm anything just by looking at his account.
- (2013-01-27 15:10) Nob: esta bien, the address that googlyed gave me was
- (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: my men shipped the kilo there
- (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: that is a business owned by curtis green
- (2013-01-27 15:11) Nob: so green is the utah guy that stole your money?
- (2013-01-27 15:11) myself: yes
- (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he set something up with googleyed, but they
- did it over torchat, so I don't know what it was
- (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: hopefully googleyed will be forthcoming
- (2013-01-27 15:12) Nob: how did he do it? you said that he stole $350,000
- (2013-01-27 15:12) myself: he had access to the password reset function
- (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: he got into several vendor accounts that way
- and emptied them
- (2013-01-27 15:13) Nob: what was he a programmer or something?
- (2013-01-27 15:13) myself: no, he was doing support
- (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: resolution center admin
- (2013-01-27 15:14) Nob: what is support?
- (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: investigating vendors
- (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: assisting vendors
- (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: that kinda stuff
- (2013-01-27 15:14) myself: i had him helping you find customers for
- example
- (2013-01-27 15:15) Nob: oh, well I'm going to need more help in that area;
- something es mal con googleyed
- (2013-01-27 15:15) myself: yea, I'm really curious what happened
- (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: but yea, curtis got busted for your key
- (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: really wierd turn of events
- (2013-01-27 15:16) Nob: as we discussed, I reached out and I have two
- very, professional individuals that are going to visit green
- (2013-01-27 15:16) myself: will they execute him if I want?
- (2013-01-27 15:17) Nob: they are very good; yes, but I directed them only
- to beat him up; that was your wishes yesterday, correct?
- (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: yes it was
- (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: will you be in contact with them when they get
- there?
- (2013-01-27 15:19) Nob: no, no contact; too risky
- (2013-01-27 15:19) myself: ok, so the plan is in motion then?
- (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: for them to give him the note and beat him up?
- (2013-01-27 15:20) Nob: yes, they have your note and are going to, how do
- I say it, torture him
- (2013-01-27 15:20) myself: ok, hmmm
- (2013-01-27 15:21) Nob: i am paying for this one, but if you want him
- killed it will be a lot more and you will have to pay the difference
- (2013-01-27 15:21) myself: do they know he was arrested for coke 10 days
- ago?
- (2013-01-27 15:22) Nob: no the details; they work for an associate of
- mine; i have never met them
- (2013-01-27 15:22) myself: ok
- (2013-01-27 15:23) Nob: do you know what happened? what are the details of
- his arrest
- (2013-01-27 15:23) myself: I don't know, but I assume it was your key
- because it happend right around the same time
- (2013-01-27 15:24) Nob: this is why I shouldn't mail; everybody want's
- them in the mail
- (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: yea, larger stuff is better to do drops
- (2013-01-27 15:25) Nob: too risky, not damned methylone and other shit
- (2013-01-27 15:25) myself: ok, so can you change the order to execute
- rather than torture?
- (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: he was on the inside for a while, and now that
- he's been arrested, I'm afraid he'll give up info
- (2013-01-27 15:26) Nob: yes, is that what you want?
- (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: and he ripped me off
- (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: it is, after i had a chance to think on it
- (2013-01-27 15:26) myself: never killed a man or had one killed before,
- but it is the right move in this case.
- (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: how much will it cost?
- (2013-01-27 15:27) Nob: ok, I was going to pay $5,000 to have him beat up;
- I need to contact my associate and ask what the price will be for the deed
- (2013-01-27 15:27) myself: ok
- (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ballpark?
- (2013-01-27 15:28) Nob: i have no idea what it will cost
- (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: ok
- (2013-01-27 15:28) myself: less than $100k?
- (2013-01-27 15:29) Nob: depends, they need to check out the neighborhood,
- police force, etc.
- (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ok, so you'll let me know
- (2013-01-27 15:29) myself: ?
- (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: yes, give them a couple days to assess the
- situation and I will have a price for you
- (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: thank you
- (2013-01-27 15:30) Nob: for you anything, I am sorry that this has
- happened
- (2013-01-27 15:30) myself: have you killed or had someone killed before?
- (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: i'm a good catholic man, but yes I have; sometimes
- there are no alternatives
- (2013-01-27 15:31) Nob: do your fear googleyed is LE?
- (2013-01-27 15:31) myself: no
- (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: ok, i trust you
- (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: just my hunch
- (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: I don't have all the facts
- (2013-01-27 15:32) myself: but he's been selling on here for a while
- (2013-01-27 15:32) Nob: damn
- (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: he doesn't trust curtis completely which is a
- good sign
- (2013-01-27 15:34) myself: i think curtis tricked him into having him send
- him the key somehow
- (2013-01-27 15:35) Nob: i see
- (2013-01-27 15:36) Nob: ok, i will get back to you; stay safe
- (2013-01-27 15:36) myself: you too
- (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: i talked to nob
- (2013-01-27 16:30) myself: he's already mobilizing apparently
- (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: well ok then, I think we should take observer
- status here.
- (2013-01-27 16:31) cimon: If you think about it, it REALLY doesn't look
- good on nob if a guy he sold to immediately gets buseted
- (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: yea, his response was "this is why I ask them
- to do drops instead of through the mail"
- (2013-01-27 16:32) cimon: gussetet, is like gusseted, from the hillbilly
- 'to get all gussied up'
- (2013-01-27 16:32) myself: he said he is going to get in touch after his
- ground crew surveys the situation
- (2013-01-27 02:15) cimon: (17:14:27) Dipper: i was like, damn we need to
- have a talk
- Too funny!
- (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: I got confirmation of my story from googleyed
- (2013-01-28 17:42) cimon: in case we have any probs, so he has
- replacements
- (2013-01-28 17:42) myself: and a 3rd address of his
- (2013-01-28 17:43) myself: his = curtis
- (2013-01-29 12:44) Nob: [delayed] ¿Donde tu estás? Tenemos que hablar.
- (2013-01-29 12:44) myself: hola nob
- (2013-01-29 12:45) myself: you there?
- (2013-01-29 12:46) Nob: sí
- (2013-01-29 12:46) myself: what's up?
- (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: que tal?
- (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: doing all right! can't complain, have friends
- like you
- (2013-01-29 12:47) myself: :D
- (2013-01-29 12:47) Nob: look at you hablando
- (2013-01-29 12:48) Nob: my guy got back to me at quoted 80K for the hit;
- guy lives in a tight neighborhood; going to be hard gettin in and the body
- out
- (2013-01-29 12:48) myself: ok
- (2013-01-29 12:49) Nob: you want to go forward? i assume you are going to
- want to move fast
- (2013-01-29 12:49) myself: yes, let's do it
- Case 1:14-cr-00068-KBF
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