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Brazilian Senate UFO hearing Part 6

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  1. Speaker 1:
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  3. I would like to immediately give the floor to Mr Thiago Tichetti, who is a lecturer, government advisor and president of the Brazilian Commission of ufologists. Welcome to the house. As he takes the stand, I'd also like to extend my thanks to Mrs Jane Turvey, who came from the United States to participate in this event with us.
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  5. She is a partner of Mr Gary Heseltain. Thank you very much. Welcome to the federal senate. I now give the floor to Mr Thiago Tichetti. Please, you have 15 minutes with a 5 minute grace period.
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  7. Speaker 2:
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  9. I would like on behalf of Senator Eduardo Guirau to greet all the authorities present here and express my thanks for the simple yet historic tribute to World UFO Day.
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  11. I would also like to welcome those who are watching us on TV Sonado, on social media, and those present here. Well then, I will present Senator, some cases, within Brazilian ufology that deserve important attention.
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  13. Brazilian ufology is extremely rich. I've selected a few cases with images, primarily to illustrate and demonstrate to everyone watching that ufology is real and global. The first case I bring is that of Ilhida Trindade, Trinity Island.
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  15. It is a famous case, one of the most important in Brazil and the world. It occurred on January 16th, 1958. When the ship Almirante Saldanja from the Brazilian Navy was near Trindada Island, off the Brazilian coast, the crew was conducting research associated with the International Geophysical Year.
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  17. The event on that date, on which the photos were taken, is associated with... they were actually obtained after five other sightings, which occurred from December 1957 to January 1958, when these photos were taken. These photos, these sightings were witnessed by several military personnel from various vessels, as well as military personnel stationed on the island.
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  19. Inside this vessel, there was also a professional photographer named Almiro Barrauna, who, on January 16th, was called to the ship's deck to check and record a strange object that the entire crew was seeing.
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  21. The object resembled the planet Saturn. It came from the ocean, flew over the island, over the highest point of the island, made a turn, and then disappeared. Four photos were taken by Almiro Barrauna.
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  23. These photos are currently available on many websites. They are available at the National Archives of Brasilia, which collects various documents, and also on several international websites. Efforts have been made in every way to discredit them, to explain them, but so far no one has been successful.
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  25. And I'm not even saying that it's to the detriment of ufology. I believe ufology should be based on research, because once any case, whether classic or not is explained, it's for the good of ufology and ufological research.
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  27. Here, we defend the truth and scientific research into facts. These photos were even investigated by the Pentagon, which wanted to compare them to what they were witnessing in terms of sightings in the United States.
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  29. According to newspapers at the time, these photos were sent to the United States and were also analyzed. The inquiry approved by the Chamber of Deputies on February 27, 1958, authored by then Deputy Sergio Magalões, requested that the Brazilian Navy explain the facts related to the incident.
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  31. In response to this request, the deputy had access to a confidential Navy document that confirmed the entire episode. including adding new data. The deputy even appeared on an old TV program with the inquiry in hand.
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  33. He presented it, showed the cover of the investigation, but couldn't publicize it. And this investigation remains undisclosed to this day. Our campaign, UFOs, Freedom of Information Now, requests that this investigation be made public.
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  35. Another very interesting case is the Ubatuba case, where, in September 1957, several beach -goers observed a flying saucer literally approaching Praia de Toninhas in Ubatuba. The object was coming at an incredible speed, and when it was about to hit the water, it swerved upwards shortly afterward.
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  37. That's when it exploded into flames and fragments over the sea, close to the beach-goers. Some witnesses collected pieces of the object, finding it to be made of a metallic material and very light. One of these witnesses sent a letter to the then journalist Ibrahim Sued from the newspaper O Globo, along with some of this material.
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  39. Three samples reached the hands of ufologist Olavo Fontes, who sent them for analysis. The first analyses were conducted at the National Department of Mineral Production of the Ministry of Agriculture under the responsibility of Luisa Maria Barbosa.
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  41. The tests were performed using spectroscopy and indicated a high concentration of magnesium and the absence of other elements. Further examinations conducted on the samples also indicated a high concentration of other elements unknown on our planet.
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  43. One of the samples was recently handed over to Andrea Simondini, an Argentine researcher and ufologist, and is on display in her museum in Entre Rios, Argentina. The scientist and researcher Jacques Valet also took one of these samples for analysis during a recent visit to Argentina.
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  45. The results are not definitive yet, but what we have so far suggests that to achieve the level of magnesium purity identified in the sample, a temperature comparable to the explosion of a supernova would be required.
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  47. This makes it impossible to create, produce, or find such material in our natural world. Moving on to the next case, I present it as a tribute to Gevaerd and also to the senator, the day when Curitiba was literally invaded by UFOs.
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  49. This happened on December 14, 1954, when three UFOs, the photo you see in the spotlight is from that event, flew over the city for several hours, even approaching buildings in the city center, causing alarm among the population.
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  51. Shops in the area closed their doors during the bustling Christmas season because customers left to witness the spectacle. It all began around 11 a .m, when three bright spots appeared in the sky over Curitiba around noon, these three objects decreased their altitude and were observed in various parts of the city.
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  53. By 1 p .m., people all over the city were witnessing the event. Suddenly, two of these three objects disappeared, leaving only the third, which came even closer. That's when this photo in the spotlight was taken.
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  55. Due to the high level of UFO activity and public concern, newspapers started reporting and interviewing witnesses. According to the newspapers of the time, the Brazilian Air Force, FAB, scrambled planes for interception.
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  57. What the witnesses saw was a twin -engine aircraft conducting city imagery for cartography, which reported not seeing the UFO. However, these UFOs were captured on film by photographers in Curitiba. Another interesting case from Brazilian ufology occurred in Lins.
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  59. It was an encounter between a woman and a supposed extraterrestrial being. This case happened in the early hours of August 25, 1968, at the Seraphim Ferreira Sanatorium in Lins, São Paulo. It was investigated by Sioani, which, as Gevaerd had explained earlier, was the system for the investigation of unidentified aerial objects, a branch of the Brazilian Air Force, FAB, dedicated to UFO research.
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  61. The main protagonist of the case, Mrs. Maria José Cintra, revealed that around 5 a .m. on the 25th, as was her habit, she heard noises outside the sanatorium. She saw the silhouette of a woman who brought her a jug, a container, possibly for water, which was different from what she had seen before.
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  63. The jug was about 20 centimeters tall, unlike anything she had seen. This woman began communicating with her in an unknown dialect or language. She understood that it was for fetching water, so she filled the jug with water and handed it to the visitor, also filling a glass of water and giving it to her.
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  65. As the visitor left, she took a path that led to a wall of the sanatorium, not the exit. Suddenly Mrs. Maria Jose saw a very bright light appear and a cylindrical or semi-cylindrical object appeared.
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  67. The being headed towards this object entered it as if passing through a door or a wall and then disappeared. Marks were left at the spot where the object had been. These are official photos from Siaoni.
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  69. The case was investigated, but there has been no conclusion to this day regarding what the being was. It was described as a blonde being wearing blue clothing. and a blue veil or cap on its head. There has been no explanation for what occurred.
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  71. Another interesting and notable case is the VASP case. It involved pilot Carlos Alberto Goes de Brito and Flight Engineer Francisco Cesarino, who observed an unidentified flying object while on a VASP flight from Fortaleza to Brasilia.
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  73. The object followed and accompanied the plane for almost the entire journey. It was late at night and throughout the flight, Captain Brito continuously contacted the control tower to inquire if there was any air traffic in the region.
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  75. During these conversations, the radar never detected the object. However, when approaching Brasilia for landing, Captain Brito asked Sindacta, the Air Traffic Control and Air Defense Integrated Center, one more time if there were any aircraft in the area that were also seeing the object.
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  77. To his surprise, an AeroLineas Argentina's aircraft and a Trans -Brazil aircraft also reported seeing the object. And this time, Sindacta's radar was detecting it. The object emitted a pure, strong, solid light and closely followed the aircraft.
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  79. Some photos, although not very clear due to the limitations of cameras in 1989, suggest the presence of the object. In one detail, you can see the plane's wing with its identification light. And above it, the object is visible near the clouds.
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  81. These photos have not been definitively authenticated, but they were taken by one of the passengers on the flight. This case is also an interesting one. We have colleagues from the Air Force here, of which I am very proud because my father was an Air Force pilot, Lieutenant Colonel Ticcetti, and my father -in -law was also a Colonel in the Air Force.
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  83. So, among the military, I feel very much at home. It happened during a landing at an FAB, Brazilian Air Force Air Base, on December 2, 1996. A luminous object was spotted by several people living near the School of Aeronautics Specialists in Guaratinga, Sao Paulo, and on the following day, a circular mark was found in a puddle 100 meters from the school. It had an approximate diameter of 8 meters and a circular shape. Inside the mark, the grass, which was of the reed type, was flattened in a clockwise direction, dry, lacking chlorophyll, and showing signs of exposure to heat as it appeared scorched.
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  85. At four points on the edges of this circle, as well as inside it, there were burnt spots, and the vegetation outside the mark was intact. This is what we normally call a UFO nest. Subsequently, with the case being publicized, the site was filled in under the pretext of building a boundary between the local aero club and the School of Aeronautics.
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  87. We have the case of the Paranoa Dam, and I have here Wilson Geraldo de Oliveira, who coordinated the Ufological and Parascientific Research Group at the University of Brasilia. If I'm not mistaken, it's the only group within a federal university that investigated the ufological phenomenon.
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  89. Wilson also participated in this case at a certain point. It involves the sighting of a flying object, and this is one of the photos taken by three businessmen who were coming from Tocantins. They were pursued by this object from La Goçul in Brasilia until they reached the Paranoa Dam, where these businessmen stopped and called 190 emergency services.
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  91. Several military police vehicles from Brasilia arrived, and at the time Cabo Galdino carried a V8 camera to record his interactions to prevent accusations of abuse of authority or similar charges. He filmed this object.
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  93. In addition, one of these businessmen's sons was a professional photographer and was in La Goçul. So the father called his son, who went there and took 36 photos of this object. In addition to this photo, there is footage of this object on the Internet taken by Cabo Galdino, and to this day, there is no explanation for this photo, which was widely disseminated in Brazil by UFO Magazine.
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  95. There is still no explanation for what the military and the witnesses saw. The next image I am approaching the end of my presentation, Senator, is the Capal Redondo case. A very famous case in Brazil that occurred on January 2, 1998, at around 9 .30pm, and was later investigated by one of the greatest ufologists Brazil has ever had.
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  97. The late Claudio Covo and also by Ricardo Varela, a member of the Brazilian UFO Committee. Several people witnessed the evolution of a luminous object over the houses in the Capao Redondo region in the city of São Paulo.
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  99. I have a video here. Let's see if I can show it. These are excerpts from the video. How do I proceed here? These images were captured and broadcast in various places, on various networks, on various channels.
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  101. It was a spherical object approximately 20 centimetres in diameter and was almost as bright as a streetlight. This object performed rapid descents and ascents over the roofs of the houses in the region, with no noise coming from it.
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  103. We're talking about something that was seen in 1998. We didn't have drones. We didn't have Starlink satellites. It's an object that made low passes over houses, low passes over cars, passed between power poles, and to this day, no one has been able to identify it.
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  105. Claudio Covo and Ricardo Varela tried in every way to replicate it to imitate this object and couldn't. They used kites with lanterns, they used model airplanes, and they couldn't reproduce it. And to this day, this is one of the best images, what we in ufology call a small -sized UFO probe, ranging from 30 millimetres to one metre in diameter, which would serve to investigate and analyse the area.
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  107. The last case I bring to you was a case I received in 2015, which is a sequence of photos taken here in Brasilia, showing an unidentified object near the beginning of the evening on September 27th, 2015.
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  109. The images were taken in Ongenho das Lages, here in the Federal District, at 6 .14 pm, at one -minute intervals. According to the witness, a civil engineer, the object was bright and changed directions several times, spinning as if it were a satellite and having that instant acceleration and deceleration.
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  111. Something very difficult, impossible for any conventional plane, any helicopter to do. It wasn't a drone, according to the witness, because it emitted other lights and rays directed towards the ground.
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  113. This was the last case we had. Records here in Brasilia with photos and images that we can present. With this, I conclude my presentation. Once again, thanking the space here in the Federal Senate, our house, and taking into account that this is a historic moment for national and international ufology.
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  115. Senator, thank you very much.
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  117. Speaker 1:
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  119. Thank you very much, and we appreciate your presence here. Thiago Ticetti, who is a lecturer, government advisor, and president of the Brazilian UFO Committee, CBU.
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