#Debts

(5:47:06 PM) futuremajIns: So here we are. Mary will not be joining us due to obvious reasons.
(5:47:10 PM) stanzicApparati: So, everyone's here. Awesome.
(5:47:11 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah.
(5:47:20 PM) stanzicApparati: Also, Pipes, since you missed it:
(5:47:30 PM) stanzicApparati:  18:42	stanzicApparati	Also, Toni, ground rules: no yelling at anyone, no saying anything mean or rude, no calling anyone any names.
(5:47:39 PM) stanzicApparati:  18:43	stanzicApparati	If you feel like you're going to, say you need to take a break and then go hit some imps or something.
(5:48:43 PM) futuremajIns: This rule shall apply to all of us equally. For the sake of being fair.
(5:49:17 PM) ***stanzicApparati nods
(5:49:34 PM) lunarLungfish: ...
(5:49:45 PM) lunarLungfish: I am bothered that you felt it necessary to specify that.
(5:51:01 PM) futuremajIns: Which part?
(5:52:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm not here to take part in the discussion, hopefully. Just as an observer.
(5:52:44 PM) lunarLungfish: You agreed that it applies to everyone equally, but you /really/ only say that so that I won't have a fit because it's really /meant/ just for /me/.
(5:52:59 PM) futuremajIns: No. It is for me too.
(5:53:03 PM) futuremajIns: ...Can we please get on with it?
(5:53:03 PM) stanzicApparati: And me.
(5:53:18 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah, let's get this started.
(5:54:19 PM) lunarLungfish: Fine.
(5:54:20 PM) futuremajIns: Where do we begin?
(5:54:32 PM) lunarLungfish: Majins, sorry I said bad things about your moirail in front of you.
(5:54:39 PM) stanzicApparati: There, apparently.
(5:55:44 PM) futuremajIns: You are not sorry for saying it however.
(5:55:52 PM) futuremajIns: Hm. Interesting.
(5:56:12 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, I wouldn't be apologizing to you for saying them because that would be against /her/.
(5:56:26 PM) lunarLungfish: I am apologizing to you because I said them in front of /you/.
(5:56:54 PM) lunarLungfish: And that probably hurt your feelings and made you mad and stuff.
(5:57:12 PM) futuremajIns: 'Probably'?
(5:57:39 PM) lunarLungfish: 'Almost definitely'
(5:57:47 PM) futuremajIns: 'Almost'?
(5:58:00 PM) futuremajIns: You have a very interesting outlook on the world. I will give you that.
(5:58:03 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't know! You could have been faking it to get some kind of leverage on me!
(5:58:19 PM) futuremajIns: ...Faking being upset because you insulted my other half. I don't.
(5:58:25 PM) lunarLungfish: Then you could use that leverage to try to get something from me and use that something to do something else and I might never know what your true plan is!
(5:58:35 PM) stanzicApparati: ...Toni, we /had/ this talk. Not everyone tries to do that sort of thing - /most/ people don't, in fact!
(5:58:43 PM) lunarLungfish: But it's possible!
(5:58:48 PM) lunarLungfish: Maybe not likely, but it /could/ be!
(5:58:53 PM) lunarLungfish: That's why 'almost definitely'
(5:59:47 PM) futuremajIns: I am not in any place mentally to form a plot.
(6:01:13 PM) futuremajIns: Is that any kind of consolation?
(6:01:19 PM) lunarLungfish: Um
(6:01:43 PM) lunarLungfish: You probably don't want me to think about whether or not you can make a plot or are just trying to make us /think/ you can't make a plot
(6:01:54 PM) lunarLungfish: so let's just go with 'almost definitely not a plot', 'kay?
(6:02:11 PM) futuremajIns: I cannot plot.
(6:02:16 PM) futuremajIns: I don't even understand what you're saying.
(6:02:43 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni, just because that white-texted asshole pulled that kind of bullshit, doesn't mean most people do. In fact, hardly anyone pulls the kind of bullshit he did to us!
(6:02:51 PM) lunarLungfish: Remember that we don't even know if anything you are telling us about your session is the truth! It could all all be a distraction to keep us from recognizing something else.
(6:02:58 PM) lunarLungfish: Who even /has/ a session for four whole sweeps, anyways?
(6:03:02 PM) stanzicApparati: And they /definitely/ don't try -- /Tonya/!
(6:03:10 PM) lunarLungfish: Oops! Sorry!
(6:03:13 PM) lunarLungfish: I tried to stop!
(6:03:15 PM) lunarLungfish: Honest, I did!
(6:03:20 PM) futuremajIns: Four sweeps?
(6:03:35 PM) stanzicApparati: Best I could remember as how long your session's been going.
(6:03:42 PM) stanzicApparati: I'm not Time any more.
(6:04:37 PM) futuremajIns: ...Close but not quite.
(6:05:25 PM) genesisArtificer left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
(6:05:43 PM) futuremajIns: Three months in the first before falling for four and a half years Singing and several months here though I cannot be precise. The Beat is not /that/ forgiving of what I've done.
(6:06:06 PM) futuremajIns: Not four sweeps. Just four years.
(6:06:25 PM) futuremajIns: Closer to five now.
(6:06:35 PM) stanzicApparati: Two and a half sweeps, then.
(6:06:47 PM) lunarLungfish: So I'm going to just ignore all of that or else I'll start making theories again.
(6:07:10 PM) futuremajIns: Long story short I mentally cannot comprehend plots too complicated or else I fall over screaming.
(6:07:16 PM) lunarLungfish: and stick with 'almost definitely not a plot'
(6:07:44 PM) lunarLungfish: You. Don't. Want. Me. To. Think. About. Whether. Or. Not. You. Can. Make. Plots.
(6:08:11 PM) stanzicApparati: Breathe, Toni.
(6:08:14 PM) lunarLungfish: The perfect person to make plots is someone who makes everyone think they can't make plots, that way no one (but me!) would ever see the plots coming!
(6:08:28 PM) stanzicApparati: And if you need to take a break, say so and go hit imps or something until you feel better.
(6:08:34 PM) lunarLungfish: And that... no wait, I can do this.
(6:08:38 PM) lunarLungfish: I feel fine, just
(6:08:47 PM) stanzicApparati: It's okay if you need to take a break.
(6:08:48 PM) lunarLungfish: you know the theories run away with me, sometimes. =C
(6:08:53 PM) stanzicApparati: There's nothing /wrong/ with needing to take a break.
(6:08:58 PM) stanzicApparati: I know, hon. : (
(6:08:59 PM) lunarLungfish: I'm fine, I'm fine.
(6:09:01 PM) lunarLungfish: Just no more talk of plots.
(6:09:36 PM) futuremajIns: So we are agreed: You are sorry for being incredibly rude to me about my diamond.
(6:09:39 PM) futuremajIns: Yes?
(6:09:55 PM) lunarLungfish: Yes
(6:10:08 PM) futuremajIns: Well that is one step forward I suppose.
(6:10:39 PM) lunarLungfish: Also yes
(6:10:50 PM) futuremajIns: Next thing: Can you explain to me the entire situation with what you wrote?
(6:11:03 PM) futuremajIns: Why did you do it? Why send it to the entire memo? That sort of thing.
(6:13:00 PM) lunarLungfish: Hmm?
(6:13:11 PM) lunarLungfish: Oh! The fanfic thing?
(6:13:21 PM) lunarLungfish: I write fanfic! All kinds of fanfic! It's a thing I do~
(6:13:36 PM) lunarLungfish: I share it with everyone, and this is the first time anyone's ever had a problem with it. =C
(6:13:53 PM) stanzicApparati: Not the first time, hon. Noah didn't much like the stuff you wrote about him.
(6:14:06 PM) stanzicApparati: And neither did some of the folks pre-game.
(6:14:11 PM) futuremajIns: Ah. Yes. Mary is...Well. She is very vocal with her issues.
(6:14:22 PM) lunarLungfish: Well no one ever /said/ anything really bad!
(6:14:38 PM) lunarLungfish: They just said it wasn't well-written or they'd never act like that or it was silly or stupid or stuff
(6:14:47 PM) lunarLungfish: no one ever threatened to hurt me over one!
(6:15:00 PM) futuremajIns: I am trying to work on that response. I am sorry.
(6:15:45 PM) lunarLungfish: Hrm?
(6:15:57 PM) futuremajIns: The violence-first response. I am trying to disarm that.
(6:16:43 PM) lunarLungfish: Oh, the thing Maria did?
(6:16:51 PM) lunarLungfish: She threatened to kill me! With torture!
(6:16:51 PM) lunarLungfish: =C
(6:17:17 PM) lunarLungfish: She threatened to kill me with torture, then told me that I had to apologize and owed her favors.
(6:17:20 PM) futuremajIns: Yes. I know.
(6:17:26 PM) futuremajIns: She does talk to me you know.
(6:17:40 PM) lunarLungfish:  /I/ owed /her/ favors because she threatened to kill me with torture! How does that even work?
(6:18:26 PM) futuremajIns: Yes I am trying to work on that too.
(6:18:50 PM) eminenceGlasseye is now known as societalFlame
(6:18:57 PM) lunarLungfish: So maybe do you see why I think that's kinda bullshit?
(6:20:03 PM) futuremajIns: I would attempt to explain what little logic there is there but it would not explain it fully.
(6:20:32 PM) futuremajIns: She has very...Strange ways of attempting to get attention sometimes.
(6:22:12 PM) lunarLungfish: Ways that included reducing my moirail to curling up in a ball and crying because of her death threats!
(6:22:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Just because she wanted to give me an apology through a proxy, but wouldn't accept one back from me through the same person.
(6:23:25 PM) futuremajIns: Forgive me if I offend but you are not really one to call the Kettle black miss Pot.
(6:23:36 PM) lunarLungfish: I am the kettle
(6:23:38 PM) lunarLungfish: =|
(6:24:04 PM) futuremajIns: You are more than happy to attack another person's moirail over an issue.
(6:24:27 PM) futuremajIns: Not to mention using names given by cohorts and friends as weapons.
(6:24:53 PM) futuremajIns: Apparati. Have I been correctly lead to believe that she has attempted to make reparations for what she has done?
(6:24:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, I didn't know you were her moirail at the time!
(6:24:59 PM) lunarLungfish: I would'nt have said it if I knew.
(6:25:24 PM) futuremajIns: She did not know she had reduced her to tears. I will drop the issue if you do.
(6:25:30 PM) lunarLungfish: And names are names! They're just /names/, why is it a big deal?
(6:25:45 PM) lunarLungfish: More than tears.
(6:25:58 PM) lunarLungfish: She was curled up in the fetal position and crying.
(6:26:03 PM) futuremajIns: Names hurt.
(6:26:08 PM) futuremajIns: Words have /power/ to them.
(6:26:56 PM) lunarLungfish: They only have as much power as you give them!
(6:27:06 PM) futuremajIns: She gives them a lot of power.
(6:27:16 PM) futuremajIns: Words walked her into kissing an axe.
(6:27:27 PM) lunarLungfish: If she gives names power over her, then maybe she can use this to learn how to not be controlled by words anymore!
(6:27:33 PM) lunarLungfish: See, it'll help her grow.
(6:27:56 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni.
(6:28:08 PM) futuremajIns: That is not /your/ responsibility and I am offended you think that makes it acceptable.
(6:29:13 PM) lunarLungfish: I'm not saying I did it on purpose or anything!
(6:29:24 PM) lunarLungfish: I didn't say she should thank me for helping her grow or stuff like that
(6:29:30 PM) futuremajIns: You purposely justified it. Just there.
(6:29:44 PM) lunarLungfish: I just said maybe it'll help her in the long run!
(6:29:49 PM) futuremajIns: No.
(6:29:51 PM) futuremajIns: It will not.
(6:30:01 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni, if someone did something that hurt /me/ and then said that maybe it'd help me get better in the long run, would it be okay?
(6:30:12 PM) lunarLungfish: This isn't about you.
(6:30:19 PM) stanzicApparati: No, it's not.
(6:30:20 PM) lunarLungfish: Don't try to change the subject.
(6:30:30 PM) futuremajIns: We are providing an example.
(6:30:40 PM) stanzicApparati: But I'm hoping that if you see that it wouldn't be okay if someone did it to /me/, then it's not okay for someone to do it to anyone else either.
(6:30:49 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't need any examples of changing the subject, I know how to do that just fine.
(6:31:09 PM) futuremajIns: You cannot claim that she will 'learn from it'. She will not.
(6:31:40 PM) lunarLungfish: Okay, fine! I'm sorry I said maybe it would help her! She won't learn anything and she'll continue being bossed around by words and stuff! There, are you happy?
(6:31:58 PM) futuremajIns: Giving something power does not mean being bossed around by it.
(6:32:27 PM) futuremajIns: You took those things and made them hurt her and it is entirely on your shoulders.
(6:32:30 PM) lunarLungfish: Now you are just confusing me.
(6:32:57 PM) futuremajIns: You took the nickname 'Maim Girl' and turned it into an insult.
(6:33:20 PM) futuremajIns: You are trying to make it out that this was a good thing.
(6:33:39 PM) lunarLungfish: What? No!
(6:33:46 PM) lunarLungfish: I thought we were talking about the fanfic!
(6:33:55 PM) lunarLungfish: We... are talking about that, right?
(6:34:16 PM) futuremajIns: You used the name there too.
(6:34:36 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, I thought it was just a nickname.
(6:34:45 PM) futuremajIns: No. It was not.
(6:34:58 PM) lunarLungfish: I didn't know it was a /special/ nickname. No one ever told me it was special!
(6:35:07 PM) futuremajIns: And then you made it a weapon.
(6:35:14 PM) lunarLungfish: No one basically /ever/ tells me the important stuff! Except Cyma.
(6:36:48 PM) futuremajIns: Then let me tell you this: To somebody who has only words to reach out to others? Words are the most powerful thing.
(6:37:16 PM) futuremajIns: She reacts violently because for a very long time it was the only way to be acknowledged by somebody who hurt her repeatedly.
(6:37:51 PM) futuremajIns: You have taken things personal to her and made them into something painful and you still have not said sorry.
(6:38:24 PM) futuremajIns: Is this clear? Do you want me to take any point from this entire conflict and elaborate on it?
(6:39:23 PM) lunarLungfish: She emotionally hurt my moirail to force me to make an apology that she was too proud to make herself, and she hasn't apologized for that, either.
(6:39:59 PM) futuremajIns: Then I will talk to her about that! But frankly I have no idea where you are coming from right now!
(6:40:14 PM) lunarLungfish: She made an apology through someone else
(6:40:19 PM) lunarLungfish: I made an apology back through that same person
(6:40:32 PM) lunarLungfish: it wasn't good enough when /I/ did it, so she said I had to apologize to her directly
(6:40:33 PM) lunarLungfish: and in public!
(6:40:44 PM) lunarLungfish: I said I would only give her an apology of the exact kind she gave me
(6:41:14 PM) lunarLungfish: then she made Cyma curl up in a ball and cry and beg beg /beg/ me to apologize because she was so afraid for my life because Maria was going to kill me!
(6:41:37 PM) lunarLungfish: So I said "Okay" and agreed because I can't bear to see her in pain like that.
(6:41:37 PM) stanzicApparati: She /did/ apologize for making me have a panic attack, Toni!
(6:41:47 PM) futuremajIns: I damn well hope she has.
(6:41:48 PM) stanzicApparati: And she's been trying to make apology cookies!
(6:41:59 PM) futuremajIns: ...Is that what she's been doing?
(6:42:18 PM) futuremajIns: Good grief. I thought she was just trying to make use of foodkind again.
(6:42:26 PM) lunarLungfish: But she never apologized to ME for how much it hurt me to see you like that! Or for the fact that it was a huge jerk move to use you to force me to do something.
(6:42:45 PM) lunarLungfish: I bet she just apologized for making you have a panic attack, not for using you as a weapon against ME.
(6:43:04 PM) stanzicApparati: No, I gave her a peanut butter cookie recipe, majins. It's supposed to be a good beginner recipe.
(6:43:20 PM) futuremajIns: I am fairly sure something exploded.
(6:43:35 PM) stanzicApparati: ...and she, um
(6:43:46 PM) stanzicApparati: She did only apologize for causing the panic attack.
(6:43:46 PM) futuremajIns: Is it acceptable if I cook them for her once the King is defeated if only so you have something edible?
(6:44:02 PM) stanzicApparati: If she's okay with that, yeah.
(6:44:10 PM) futuremajIns: Then I will talk to her about hurting you as a means to get to Lungfish.
(6:44:17 PM) stanzicApparati: Thank you.
(6:44:35 PM) lunarLungfish: You can call me Toni
(6:44:46 PM) lunarLungfish: it's just my real name, you know.
(6:45:14 PM) futuremajIns: I am not sure I feel comfortable volunteering mine in return I am afraid.
(6:45:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Um... okay?
(6:45:59 PM) lunarLungfish: I am trying to learn to be culturally sensitive, here.
(6:46:06 PM) lunarLungfish: Is that the right response?
(6:46:22 PM) futuremajIns: ...To what culture are you being sensitive exactly? I do not follow.
(6:46:40 PM) lunarLungfish: Your culture that I guess doesn't share names and nicknames easily?
(6:46:46 PM) lunarLungfish: idek
(6:46:54 PM) futuremajIns: No I just do not feel comfortable with it.
(6:47:02 PM) futuremajIns: We are sort of in the middle of what is technically a feud after all.
(6:47:16 PM) lunarLungfish: Why? I'm not mad at you.
(6:47:37 PM) futuremajIns: I am her family and family is what you fight for.
(6:47:45 PM) futuremajIns: Bleed and die for if needs be.
(6:47:47 PM) lunarLungfish: =C
(6:47:54 PM) lunarLungfish: All I have for family is Cyma...
(6:48:06 PM) lunarLungfish: and, well
(6:48:17 PM) lunarLungfish: Mr Whiteout basically killed my mom
(6:48:18 PM) lunarLungfish: =C
(6:48:32 PM) ***lunarLungfish tighthugs Cyma
(6:48:32 PM) stanzicApparati: =(
(6:48:37 PM) ***stanzicApparati tighthungs Toni
(6:48:45 PM) stanzicApparati: I got the bastards he roped into doing it, hon.
(6:48:56 PM) stanzicApparati: They paid for what they did.
(6:49:01 PM) lunarLungfish: But we never got him...
(6:49:16 PM) lunarLungfish: it's /his/ fault really, and we don't even know what happened to him at the end there...
(6:49:20 PM) stanzicApparati: Pretty sure he died with our world.
(6:49:36 PM) stanzicApparati: I can ask around if anyone knows what happens to FGs when you leave a session.
(6:49:41 PM) lunarLungfish: I... I kinda don't want him to be dead.
(6:49:45 PM) lunarLungfish: I want to kill him, myself!
(6:49:53 PM) stanzicApparati: Shhh, I know, hon.
(6:49:54 PM) lunarLungfish: I want to kill him and kill him and kill him and kill him and then kill him again!
(6:49:55 PM) stanzicApparati: I know.
(6:50:01 PM) ***stanzicApparati tighthugs Toni
(6:50:03 PM) stanzicApparati: I know.
(6:50:11 PM) lunarLungfish: He killed my moooooooooooooom.......
(6:50:30 PM) stanzicApparati: =(
(6:51:09 PM) lunarLungfish: ohcrapnowthespacearandthekeyareshortingoutecauseIgotthemwet
(6:51:23 PM) stanzicApparati: Go make yourself a new computer, hon.
(6:51:30 PM) lunarLungfish: r
(6:51:36 PM) stanzicApparati: And go hug someone in your session who's really good at hugging.
(6:51:47 PM) ***lunarLungfish has switched computers
(6:51:54 PM) stanzicApparati: I'm giving you permission, any time you need to hug someone, you can go do that.
(6:52:01 PM) lunarLungfish: There's no one here that's good at hugging, really.
(6:52:21 PM) lunarLungfish: The one troll girl, maybe, but she disappeared and Brahim's been all over everywhere looking for her.
(6:53:42 PM) futuremajIns left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
(6:53:48 PM) stanzicApparati: Oh no. : (
(6:54:10 PM) stanzicApparati: What classpect is she?
(6:54:28 PM) stanzicApparati: Could you ask your Space player or a Seer to look and see where she is?
(6:54:37 PM) lunarLungfish: Seer of ... Something.
(6:54:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Our Space player is trying to help Brahim look for her, but Lilura is the Seer!
(6:55:21 PM) stanzicApparati: Well, crap.
(6:55:37 PM) stanzicApparati: ...try asking the Space player to see if the World will say where she is?
(6:55:55 PM) stanzicApparati: Or, hm.
(6:56:12 PM) stanzicApparati: Trying to think if there's any good promises you could use that might help.
(6:58:50 PM) lunarLungfish: She seems to be actively avoiding us, I guess?
(6:58:52 PM) lunarLungfish: I dunno
(6:58:57 PM) lunarLungfish: Anyways, that's a different problem
(6:59:11 PM) lunarLungfish: I made a plushie that looks kinda like you
(6:59:11 PM) stanzicApparati: Ask the Time player if she stops avoiding you at some point?
(6:59:27 PM) stanzicApparati: [>Cyma: Whimper.]
(6:59:32 PM) stanzicApparati: I made one that looks like you.
(6:59:33 PM) lunarLungfish: Imma hug it
(6:59:47 PM) stanzicApparati: It came with me from my last session.
(6:59:52 PM) lunarLungfish: [>Toni: Hug the shit out of that plushie.]
(7:00:00 PM) lunarLungfish: awwwwwwwwww
(7:00:08 PM) lunarLungfish: ='C
(7:00:37 PM) stanzicApparati: [>Cyma: Hugging the somewhat-battered, very-well-loved Toni plushie.]
(7:00:46 PM) stanzicApparati: I miss you /so/ much, Tone.
(7:01:13 PM) fuckSbtrn is now known as [Logs]Ish
(7:02:25 PM) mislaidLullaby [[email protected]] entered the room.
(7:02:36 PM) mislaidLullaby is now known as futuremajIns
(7:03:02 PM) futuremajIns: (( Where were we? ))
(7:03:48 PM) lunarLungfish: ((http://pastebin.com/CKA5tY9Q))
(7:04:10 PM) lunarLungfish: I miss you too, Ceems.
(7:04:13 PM) lunarLungfish: Do you have to poop?
(7:04:17 PM) lunarLungfish: Because I miss the shit out of you.
(7:05:11 PM) futuremajIns: ...I am not sure if I should be present for this.
(7:05:38 PM) lunarLungfish: No no no, it's fine
(7:05:41 PM) lunarLungfish: it's fine
(7:05:50 PM) lunarLungfish: my face is dry, now
(7:06:06 PM) futuremajIns: It feels like I sat in on something I really rather should've have.
(7:07:29 PM) stanzicApparati: ...I think maybe we should get back on track now.
(7:07:48 PM) futuremajIns: Yes.
(7:08:03 PM) futuremajIns: I am here because she cannot be. I am family and family does what it must for one another.
(7:08:17 PM) futuremajIns: It is the basis that blood debts are founded on.
(7:09:11 PM) lunarLungfish: I... don't do the whole 'blood debts' thing unless there is actual blood
(7:09:22 PM) futuremajIns: Our world was different.
(7:10:02 PM) futuremajIns: It is accepted that a favour for ten unpaid can be escalated to a blood debt. A simple slice across the palm usually suffices at that stage.
(7:10:24 PM) futuremajIns: ...We are getting off track again.
(7:10:30 PM) lunarLungfish: wait what?
(7:10:30 PM) stanzicApparati: Not very.
(7:10:38 PM) stanzicApparati: It's relevant.
(7:10:51 PM) lunarLungfish: No no no, keep talking
(7:10:56 PM) futuremajIns: I am not sure how gang politics is relevant here but if you say so.
(7:11:08 PM) lunarLungfish: she kept going on about "favors or blood" I owed her, so
(7:11:18 PM) futuremajIns: That is news to me.
(7:11:36 PM) futuremajIns: I feel I should explain if we have this conversation then.
(7:11:54 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah, she initially said that Toni owed an apology or eight. Then an apology /and/ eight, which got dropped to an apology and five for both herself and Amaswe.
(7:12:03 PM) stanzicApparati: Or escalated, I'm not sure.
(7:12:18 PM) futuremajIns: No I think that is a drop.
(7:12:27 PM) lunarLungfish: And she said something about "favors or blood"
(7:12:33 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah.
(7:12:36 PM) futuremajIns: Well then.
(7:12:48 PM) stanzicApparati: And that the next time Toni wrote a fic about her, she'd be calling in a debt of blood.
(7:13:01 PM) lunarLungfish: She is not getting my blood!
(7:13:06 PM) stanzicApparati: Shoosh, Toni.
(7:13:10 PM) lunarLungfish: I'm not going to let anyone beat me up to assuage her pride!
(7:13:14 PM) futuremajIns: A debt of favour is exactly that- You owe favours. They can be small but multiple favours can be used for something larger.
(7:13:26 PM) futuremajIns: They can be denied but the debt will remain.
(7:13:28 PM) stanzicApparati: We're working on figuring out a solution that everyone's satisfied with, hon. Shoosh.
(7:13:44 PM) futuremajIns: At ten favours owed a blood debt can be declared.
(7:13:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah... to me a favor is a BIG thing
(7:14:10 PM) futuremajIns: A debt of favour is specific- The person who owes you is the only one who can pay. Blood debts are different.
(7:14:13 PM) lunarLungfish: Is there like a chart of a graph or anything written down like that?
(7:14:34 PM) futuremajIns: I do not think so.
(7:15:33 PM) futuremajIns: All the same. Blood debt goes from the individual to the family. Usually a family member steps in when somebody is too stubborn to pay and does so themselves to stop a situation growing further.
(7:16:12 PM) futuremajIns: So had she called blood debt it frankly would have been far easier as then a shallow slice across the palm would've resolved the entire situation without any fuss.
(7:16:37 PM) lunarLungfish: ...
(7:16:56 PM) lunarLungfish: So not only did she threaten to torture me to death, she wants me to /cut/ my own /palm/ for her?
(7:17:02 PM) futuremajIns: No.
(7:17:07 PM) lunarLungfish: That's what it sounds like!
(7:17:22 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni, breathe.
(7:17:22 PM) futuremajIns: Well she has not called blood debt so it is not the case.
(7:17:22 PM) stanzicApparati: Breathe and hug the Cyma plushie, okay?
(7:17:34 PM) futuremajIns: Also? Healing items. A shallow slice isn't even that bad a situation.
(7:17:34 PM) lunarLungfish: She'd better have a good wireless carrier, because she'll be calling long-distance!
(7:17:59 PM) futuremajIns: I don't even know what that /means/.
(7:19:00 PM) lunarLungfish: It means if she calls blood debt, I'm letting the answering machine pick it up. =|
(7:19:06 PM) futuremajIns: ...
(7:19:31 PM) futuremajIns: Apparati if these two get into a fight again can we please just move straight to blood and resolve it on their behalf?
(7:19:58 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah.
(7:20:04 PM) lunarLungfish: What? No!
(7:20:07 PM) futuremajIns: Yes.
(7:20:10 PM) futuremajIns: That's how it works.
(7:20:34 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni, why wouldn't I bleed for you?
(7:20:36 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah, well we aren't from your home, so we don't have to play by its rules.
(7:20:43 PM) lunarLungfish: Because you don't have to!
(7:20:46 PM) stanzicApparati: You're my moirail, you're all the family I have left.
(7:20:47 PM) futuremajIns: What would you suggest then?
(7:20:55 PM) futuremajIns: Good grief. It is a palm.
(7:20:59 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't want you to bleed because these ... um /people/ say you have to!
(7:21:06 PM) futuremajIns: It is not like it demands an entire arm.
(7:21:20 PM) stanzicApparati: He's not even asking for anything to be cut off, hon.
(7:21:25 PM) lunarLungfish: THAT'S A THING?
(7:21:26 PM) stanzicApparati: Just a sliced palm.
(7:21:41 PM) lunarLungfish: WHY would you even ASK for something like that? WHO would DO such a thing?
(7:21:42 PM) stanzicApparati: I can see that, yeah, if the debt were big.
(7:21:49 PM) lunarLungfish: That's MONSTROUS!
(7:21:55 PM) stanzicApparati:  /Toni/!
(7:22:04 PM) stanzicApparati: Take a break, hon.
(7:22:09 PM) lunarLungfish: HOW can you ask someone to chop off their own ARM just to repay a DEBT?
(7:22:19 PM) stanzicApparati: Go punch imps until you're calmer.
(7:22:34 PM) stanzicApparati: He's not asking that.
(7:22:34 PM) futuremajIns: Apparati I am sorry.
(7:22:37 PM) futuremajIns: I /did/ note that this is gang politics yes?
(7:22:37 PM) stanzicApparati: Not your fault, Majestic.
(7:22:44 PM) lunarLungfish: What? No I'm good I'm fine I'm just dandy there is nothing wrong I am perfectly calm and collected and in control of my stuff and stuff.
(7:22:52 PM) lunarLungfish: What? You're in a GANG?
(7:22:55 PM) futuremajIns: No.
(7:22:56 PM) futuremajIns: She was.
(7:23:10 PM) lunarLungfish: SHE'S A GANGBANGER?
(7:23:12 PM) futuremajIns: ...
(7:23:21 PM) futuremajIns: A Mime. Not an Acrobat.
(7:23:25 PM) stanzicApparati: [>Cyma: Head-desk.]
(7:23:51 PM) futuremajIns: South River Sawteeth to be precise.
(7:24:25 PM) futuremajIns: But yes. Is this making sense Apparati?
(7:24:37 PM) stanzicApparati: Perfectly, actually.
(7:24:44 PM) lunarLungfish: No
(7:24:54 PM) stanzicApparati: But Mislul's said that a lot of stuff from your world seems to have mapped off of Alternia.
(7:25:03 PM) lunarLungfish: wait
(7:25:05 PM) lunarLungfish: you mean she's like
(7:25:07 PM) lunarLungfish: Human Circus?
(7:25:10 PM) stanzicApparati: Yes.
(7:25:15 PM) futuremajIns: I believe she is referring to the gangs again. So yes.
(7:25:16 PM) stanzicApparati: I /said/ she was Circus, hon.
(7:26:10 PM) futuremajIns: It is not something she goes out her way to conceal most the time.
(7:26:33 PM) lunarLungfish: Yes, but I thought that was like
(7:26:36 PM) lunarLungfish: different, I guess
(7:26:45 PM) stanzicApparati: How?
(7:26:46 PM) lunarLungfish: I think our Circus didn't have favors and blood debts and stuff like that
(7:26:53 PM) lunarLungfish: but I'm not sure, I didn't really pay that much attention.
(7:27:18 PM) futuremajIns: It is likely that it was something they built in to try and stop everybody killing one another needlessly.
(7:27:19 PM) stanzicApparati: Only difference between what she practices, from what I know, and the one back home is that she doesn't kill people for paint.
(7:27:49 PM) stanzicApparati: And nah, favors and blood debts...that was something the trolls did. Not the humans so much, though.
(7:27:52 PM) stanzicApparati: Not back home, anyways.
(7:28:40 PM) futuremajIns: I see.
(7:29:02 PM) ***stanzicApparati shrugs
(7:29:08 PM) futuremajIns: It is likely that our world only took parts and changed others to ensure things worked in a semi-logical manner.
(7:29:24 PM) stanzicApparati: Yeah, probably.
(7:29:47 PM) lunarLungfish: Okay, well
(7:29:58 PM) lunarLungfish: how much does she owe me for everything she did?
(7:30:07 PM) futuremajIns: Let me think.
(7:32:56 PM) futuremajIns: For hurting your diamond and threatening you?
(7:32:56 PM) futuremajIns: Let me make sure I am accounting for things correctly.
(7:33:42 PM) lunarLungfish: mhm
(7:34:05 PM) futuremajIns: Apparati can you think of anything else?
(7:35:45 PM) lunarLungfish: Also using her as a weapon against me
(7:36:01 PM) lunarLungfish: which is /not/ the same as just hurting her
(7:36:11 PM) stanzicApparati: Let's see. Hurting me, threatening Toni - does the manner of threat matter any?
(7:36:14 PM) lunarLungfish: and she totally had double standards about apologies
(7:36:19 PM) stanzicApparati: 'Cause she threatened to scalp Toni.
(7:36:27 PM) lunarLungfish: Yes! Death by torture!
(7:36:28 PM) futuremajIns: ...Does she know what scalping means?
(7:36:31 PM) stanzicApparati: Yes.
(7:36:34 PM) stanzicApparati: I asked her this.
(7:36:38 PM) futuremajIns: Because she may have mistaken it for shaving her head.
(7:36:48 PM) lunarLungfish: ...
(7:36:55 PM) lunarLungfish: is threatening to shave someone really a threat?
(7:36:58 PM) lunarLungfish: I mean, seriously.
(7:37:12 PM) futuremajIns: For some people? Yes.
(7:37:14 PM) lunarLungfish: "I'll feed you so much excellent food that you'll get fat and other people will think you're ugly!"
(7:37:16 PM) lunarLungfish: is that a threat?
(7:37:31 PM) futuremajIns: Excellent food is toeing the line a little.
(7:37:38 PM) stanzicApparati: She asked why I was assuming she didn't know, then got upset that I was being upset over something she said, quote "when I was angry and not thinking straight".
(7:37:48 PM) futuremajIns: Ah.
(7:37:52 PM) futuremajIns: She lied.
(7:37:53 PM) stanzicApparati: Which...isn't actually the same as saying yes, she knew it was threatening a slow death.
(7:37:58 PM) stanzicApparati: Now that I think of it.
(7:38:42 PM) lunarLungfish: If she didn't mean it as a death threat, then she would have said something when we kept calling it a death threat.
(7:38:42 PM) futuremajIns: She did not actually answer?
(7:38:56 PM) futuremajIns: Oh this one is easy. It's a matter of reputation.
(7:39:32 PM) stanzicApparati: No, she didn't say anything about it, one way or the other.
(7:39:45 PM) stanzicApparati: And I asked her in PMs, since I didn't want to confront her about it publically.
(7:39:51 PM) lunarLungfish: So she didn't mean it as death by torture at first, and then when found out it was death by torture, she decided to just go with it?
(7:40:06 PM) lunarLungfish: How is that any better? It sounds /worse/ to me!
(7:40:22 PM) futuremajIns: Admitting she didn't understand would be her admitting she is ignorant again as far as she cares. Her pride is...I really /must/ work with her on that.
(7:40:28 PM) stanzicApparati: Or decided that since we assumed that's what she meant, she wasn't about to back down from it because she didn't want to look stupid.
(7:40:36 PM) stanzicApparati: It's not like you haven't done the same thing, Toni.
(7:40:53 PM) stanzicApparati: Heck, you do that every time your auto-correct glitches on you. =P
(7:41:07 PM) lunarLungfish: No I don't
(7:41:13 PM) stanzicApparati: Dear.
(7:41:21 PM) futuremajIns: When part of your reputation is staked on being cunning and/or dangerous you are hardly going to break it. Especially once upset.
(7:41:36 PM) futuremajIns: It was probably easier for her to go with it than own up.
(7:42:29 PM) lunarLungfish: So she still accepted it
(7:42:39 PM) lunarLungfish: and /used/ /it/ /against/ /Cyma/
(7:42:53 PM) futuremajIns: That has not stopped being a thing I am aware of.
(7:42:57 PM) lunarLungfish: Whether she meant it that way /at/ /first/ or not, she ultimately decided to go with it.
(7:43:36 PM) lunarLungfish: And she never said "Well maybe just a casual beating or I'll just take the hair but leave the scalp".
(7:43:59 PM) futuremajIns: So a very weird mess of a threat that we don't really get as well as hurting your moirail and threatening her to get to you.
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(7:44:38 PM) lunarLungfish: mhm!
(7:44:51 PM) lunarLungfish: I certainly /took/ it as a death-by-torture threat!
(7:45:14 PM) stanzicApparati: She didn't threaten me directly.
(7:45:15 PM) lunarLungfish: And since "how she took it" is apparently all that matters about my fanfic, then "how I took it" should be all that matters about her threat
(7:45:42 PM) ***lunarLungfish PMs stanzicApparati : (Cyma! Not helping!)
(7:45:42 PM) futuremajIns: You know you never /did/ say why you uploaded that thing to the entire memo.
(7:45:48 PM) stanzicApparati: But...well, I didn't cope very well at the thought of losing Toni.
(7:45:53 PM) futuremajIns: And I will keep that in mind Apparati.
(7:45:56 PM) lunarLungfish: I was sharing! I share all my fanfic!
(7:46:06 PM) lunarLungfish: Or the good stuff, anyways.
(7:46:08 PM) lunarLungfish: The stuff I don't hate.
(7:46:15 PM) stanzicApparati: Did you intend to share it with /everyone/ on the memo that time?
(7:46:19 PM) stanzicApparati: Or just with Nagdra?
(7:46:33 PM) stanzicApparati: It's okay if you made a mistake when you uploaded it, hon.
(7:46:35 PM) lunarLungfish: well, I was accidentally PMing to /everyone/
(7:46:41 PM) lunarLungfish: that was embarrassing
(7:46:56 PM) futuremajIns: Ah. I see.
(7:47:09 PM) futuremajIns: In the future? Please do not do that again.
(7:47:25 PM) lunarLungfish: I won't! I learned!
(7:48:06 PM) futuremajIns: I'd try explaining this one too but really there is no need for you to know.
(7:48:58 PM) futuremajIns: So then. That tallies to...Hm.
(7:51:39 PM) futuremajIns: I will not ask /why/ you thought to write her and her cohort into what seems like it would be a frankly dysfunctional romance. Some things are better off not known.
(7:52:36 PM) lunarLungfish: It's a fanfic! They don't have to make sense, they're supposed to be silly fun.
(7:53:00 PM) lunarLungfish: If they made a lot of sense, they'd be conjecture and not fanfic.
(7:53:03 PM) lunarLungfish: And that's bad.
(7:53:23 PM) futuremajIns: Ah.
(7:56:21 PM) futuremajIns: Mary was...Probably not the best person for 'silly fun'.
(7:57:11 PM) lunarLungfish: I know that now!
(7:57:17 PM) lunarLungfish: How was I supposed to know that then?
(7:57:22 PM) lunarLungfish: Also: I thought her name was Maria?
(7:57:27 PM) futuremajIns: By watching her?
(7:57:51 PM) futuremajIns: And I am fairly sure I have warned the group before about her tendencies when upset.
(7:57:57 PM) lunarLungfish: No one ever wrote her a fanfic before
(7:58:04 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, I didn't even know you before.
(7:58:09 PM) futuremajIns: Point.
(7:58:12 PM) lunarLungfish: I'm... kinda forgetful at times...
(7:58:19 PM) futuremajIns: In that case allow me to tell you.
(7:58:55 PM) futuremajIns: She is vulnerable to the Angels. I had not noticed until recently but when she attempts to speak a certain consort language it has more than a passing similarity to them.
(7:59:41 PM) lunarLungfish: D=
(7:59:46 PM) futuremajIns: They pretty much spent the entire four years I had with her dreamself manipulating her to be very good at hating things.
(8:00:45 PM) futuremajIns: Please be caerful.
(8:00:47 PM) futuremajIns: careful*
(8:01:03 PM) lunarLungfish: That's... horrible!
(8:01:16 PM) futuremajIns: Yes. It is.
(8:02:31 PM) futuremajIns: It is why I was working so hard to correct her behaviour before time ran out.
(8:02:43 PM) lunarLungfish: You still have a long ways to go.
(8:02:51 PM) futuremajIns: I know.
(8:08:39 PM) ventricularPipefitter: (( This has been a -great- discussion, by the way. ))
(8:08:52 PM) lunarLungfish: ((Hee! I'm glad you think so~))
(8:08:52 PM) futuremajIns: (( Hurrah~ ))
(8:09:00 PM) stanzicApparati: (( =D ))
(8:11:23 PM) lunarLungfish: So how many?
(8:11:34 PM) futuremajIns: How many what?
(8:13:17 PM) lunarLungfish: How many does she owe Cyma and I?
(8:13:24 PM) lunarLungfish: Also how big of a favor is a favor?
(8:13:31 PM) lunarLungfish: Because see, for me a favor is a BIG thing.
(8:13:43 PM) futuremajIns: How big?
(8:14:03 PM) futuremajIns: That is to say- What is the most one could buy you?
(8:14:34 PM) lunarLungfish: well, what the expectation is in general
(8:14:46 PM) lunarLungfish: what does SHE think of as being "one favor"
(8:15:05 PM) futuremajIns: I would rather hear your idea of it first so to compare properly.
(8:15:59 PM) lunarLungfish: Making a batch of cookies is NOT a favor
(8:16:24 PM) lunarLungfish: Throwing a whole party with cookies, cake, drinks, streamers, music, and balloons IS a favor.
(8:16:34 PM) futuremajIns: Ah.
(8:16:36 PM) lunarLungfish: but, well
(8:16:45 PM) lunarLungfish: the closer you are to someone, the more it takes to be favor.
(8:16:46 PM) lunarLungfish: For Cyma?
(8:16:52 PM) lunarLungfish: The party wouldn't even be a favor.
(8:16:53 PM) futuremajIns: You see for her? That would most likely peg at about three favours. More if there's a lot of people.
(8:16:58 PM) lunarLungfish: I'd do it just because she asked.
(8:17:18 PM) lunarLungfish: I'd be like "cutting your own hand to prevent someone from being upset"
(8:17:26 PM) lunarLungfish:  /that/ would be a favor.
(8:17:28 PM) futuremajIns: One for the venue. One for the catering. One for music and streamers.
(8:17:46 PM) stanzicApparati: Or you'd throw me a party because I forgot that I'd been time-hopping long enough to miss my wriggling day twice.
(8:18:02 PM) lunarLungfish: For someone I disliked? A dozen cookies would be a completely legit favor.
(8:18:12 PM) lunarLungfish: That was an /awesome/ party
(8:18:35 PM) lunarLungfish: even though the fractal confetti filled up the whole room and we had to move the party twice.
(8:18:35 PM) futuremajIns: So scaling on your concept of a favour given how much you seem to like one another?
(8:18:41 PM) lunarLungfish: mhm]
(8:18:44 PM) futuremajIns: You would be lucky to get even one party out of her.
(8:19:00 PM) lunarLungfish: wait what? Why would I /want/ a party from her?
(8:19:08 PM) futuremajIns: It is an example.
(8:19:20 PM) futuremajIns: Your favours are not automatically being converted to parties.
(8:19:46 PM) futuremajIns: Frankly I am tired of this entire situation. You both owe for five.
(8:20:30 PM) futuremajIns: The debt between Mary and you is null as it counters and you still owe Amaswe. Apologies will need to be delivered. They do not count as favours.
(8:20:46 PM) lunarLungfish: so death threats, causing panic attacks, and using a moirail against their diamond is just as bad as posting a fanfic?
(8:21:12 PM) futuremajIns: As I said. I am tired of this.
(8:21:29 PM) futuremajIns: I do not want to hear either of you wheedling about favours or apologies or debt anymore.
(8:21:41 PM) lunarLungfish: So you are just saying "all the debts are equal because I'm tired of hearing about them"?
(8:21:51 PM) lunarLungfish: Or just because you don't want to decide against your moirail?
(8:21:55 PM) lunarLungfish: I'd understand if that was it
(8:21:59 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't think I could decide against Cyma
(8:22:06 PM) futuremajIns: Would you rather we called in a third party to settle this?
(8:22:27 PM) stanzicApparati: We could do that.
(8:22:46 PM) futuremajIns: ventricularPipefitter. You have been here the whole time yes?
(8:23:54 PM) stanzicApparati: He's here but distracted, I think?
(8:24:01 PM) tenaciousTheseus [[email protected]] entered the room.
(8:24:10 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I've been following along, yes.
(8:24:16 PM) stanzicApparati: Also, he's Amaswe's cloverhead.
(8:24:43 PM) futuremajIns: It is distant enough from the main snarl that I will just go with it.
(8:24:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If I am too closely involved, I would be happy to ask someone else to act as a third party.
(8:24:51 PM) stanzicApparati: Fair enough.
(8:24:56 PM) futuremajIns: Favours. How many does Mary owe?
(8:25:17 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Toni, will you abide by my decision?
(8:26:23 PM) lunarLungfish: mmmmmmmm
(8:26:27 PM) lunarLungfish: okay
(8:26:37 PM) ventricularPipefitter: That's a yes?
(8:26:55 PM) lunarLungfish: if she will abide by it, as well
(8:27:18 PM) futuremajIns: On blood I swear it.
(8:27:20 PM) futuremajIns: She /will/ abide.
(8:27:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...Well, that answers my second question.
(8:27:55 PM) ventricularPipefitter: A few linear moments to re-read the arguments and decide.
(8:28:18 PM) futuremajIns: Of course.
(8:28:23 PM) stanzicApparati: No rush.
(8:28:55 PM) lunarLungfish: [LAW: Toni will abide by Ross' decision regarding favors owed to/from Maria to the same extent it is honored by Maria.]
(8:29:48 PM) lunarLungfish: [>Toni: Gain echeladder rung for making an important law with real consequences. You are learning, Ward of Law! Your Whisperings are pleased.]
(8:33:12 PM) futuremajIns: ...Ah. I see what she meant.
(8:34:03 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm?
(8:34:29 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni did a thing.
(8:35:01 PM) lunarLungfish: I made a Law.
(8:35:08 PM) futuremajIns: This loop will be filled shortly. I will go back for the last stretch of the breeding and then depart for the fight.
(8:35:43 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ahh.
(8:45:14 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Five and Five is appropriate. Fault and wrong-doing are not identical, but they are /equivalent/.
(8:45:37 PM) futuremajIns: Thank you.
(8:45:39 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I am a Cryptic at the moment and not particularly inclined to explain my reasoning, but rest assured it exists.
(8:46:19 PM) lunarLungfish: =C
(8:46:33 PM) futuremajIns: I think drop favours owed to Amaswe down to three and leave it there.
(8:46:35 PM) lunarLungfish: I want to say for the record that I think it's not!
(8:46:48 PM) lunarLungfish: But... I agreed to it.
(8:47:02 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I think that my auspistee would agree to this.
(8:47:14 PM) ***futuremajIns PMs "Pipefitter" ( Thank you for this. It is appreciated. )
(8:47:23 PM) lunarLungfish: Hey, I only agreed to abide by it for Maria, not the fish!
(8:47:38 PM) futuremajIns: ...
(8:47:51 PM) futuremajIns: I am not sure but I am fairly sure that is somewhat offensive.
(8:47:55 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It is.
(8:48:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It is absolutely offensive.
(8:48:07 PM) lunarLungfish: Well then bluh bluh I'm sorry and didn't mean to be offensive.
(8:48:19 PM) lunarLungfish: Amaswe
(8:48:37 PM) lunarLungfish: since god I don't know whose name I can use without somehow incurring loads and loads of debts.
(8:48:47 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter PMs "Rick" ( I know full well how words can hurt like little else. I hope this settles it between the two of them with finality. )
(8:49:05 PM) stanzicApparati: Toni.
(8:49:09 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It is about as offensive to call him 'the fish' as it is to call me 'the black founder'
(8:49:31 PM) futuremajIns: Ah. I see. Thank you for the clarification.
(8:49:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mn. No,not quite. 'the negro founder'
(8:49:37 PM) lunarLungfish: Well I didn't know what I should call him!
(8:49:46 PM) futuremajIns: How about 'Amaswe'?
(8:49:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: 'Amaswe' works well, unless he tells you something else.
(8:49:54 PM) lunarLungfish: I, um
(8:49:58 PM) stanzicApparati: Your promise to abide by Pipes' decision for what you and Mislul owe each other holds for what you owe Amaswe, too.
(8:50:03 PM) lunarLungfish: mebbe had a brain fart and forgot his tag...
(8:50:09 PM) stanzicApparati: As far as /I/ am concerned, anyways.
(8:50:25 PM) ***lunarLungfish PMs "bestFriend" : (Not helping!)
(8:50:42 PM) futuremajIns: He was a part of that fiction as much as she was. You owe the apology at the very least.
(8:50:47 PM) ***stanzicApparati PMs "my palest headache" : (I'm not gonna lie!)
(8:50:52 PM) lunarLungfish: I will definitely give him an apology!
(8:50:57 PM) lunarLungfish: He will get a huge apology!
(8:51:08 PM) lunarLungfish: I'll even write him the fic of his choice!
(8:51:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I would not volunteer that.
(8:51:31 PM) futuremajIns: I do not think fiction would be an appropriate apology.
(8:51:45 PM) futuremajIns: Considering what you are apologising for.
(8:51:46 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, if it was a fic that upset him, then a fic should make amends, right?
(8:51:55 PM) stanzicApparati: ...only if he asks that as one of the favors, Toni.
(8:51:59 PM) lunarLungfish: "Let the punishment fit the crime"
(8:52:18 PM) futuremajIns: It's not a punishment though.
(8:52:39 PM) lunarLungfish: It can be depending on what he wants ...
(8:53:31 PM) ventricularPipefitter: He wouldn't want fiction.
(8:54:08 PM) futuremajIns: I shall trust your judgement on the matter.
(8:54:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I can handle this part myself. You should Reckon.
(8:55:00 PM) futuremajIns: In that case? I hope I survive to speak with you all again.
(8:55:02 PM) futuremajIns: Goodbye.
(8:55:06 PM) lunarLungfish: Bye
(8:55:09 PM) ***futuremajIns has disconnected from memo!
(8:55:11 PM) lunarLungfish: Good luck
(8:55:15 PM) lunarLungfish: and good luck to her, too
(8:55:21 PM) ***stanzicApparati PMs "Majins" : (Good luck.)
(8:55:35 PM) ***stanzicApparati PMs "Majins" : (21:56	lunarLungfish	Good luck 21:56	lunarLungfish	and good luck to her, too)
(8:55:41 PM) ***futuremajIns PMs "Apparati" ( Thank you. )
(8:57:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Personally? I feel my cloverleaf deserves at least the aforementioned three favors with his huge apology.
(8:57:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: He's damn touchy, you know.
(8:57:29 PM) stanzicApparati: He is, yeah.