Scammer idiot

2:14 PM - Swiggiy: hey is ur knife still for sale
2:15 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Yeah which one?
2:15 PM - Swiggiy: sec it depends on what payment u want
2:15 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: where you from?
2:15 PM - Swiggiy: usa
2:15 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Probably Paypal then
2:16 PM - Swiggiy: ok i need to check how much i have and what knives u have
2:19 PM - Swiggiy: ★ Flip Knife | Stained how much for that?
2:20 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: sec
2:21 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: I don't quite know how paypal works between countries so i'll just quote you a USD price and hope it auto converts it for me?
2:21 PM - Swiggiy: ya paypal can convert currencies
2:22 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: yeah good, haha that one is $50
2:22 PM - Swiggiy: wait lemme double check market
2:26 PM - Swiggiy: ok I see
2:27 PM - Swiggiy: uh
2:27 PM - Swiggiy: would you be ok with a middleman?
2:27 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: not really
2:28 PM - Swiggiy: ok ill go first
2:28 PM - Swiggiy: what ur pp
2:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: t4timb@hotmail.com
2:28 PM - Swiggiy: wait so you want $50 for it in usd?
2:29 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: yeah
2:31 PM - Swiggiy: sorry sec
2:31 PM - Swiggiy: i was messaging a friend
2:31 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: allg
2:37 PM - Swiggiy: hey r u in a comp or something?
2:37 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: nah
2:37 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Just in a server im testing
2:38 PM - Swiggiy: oh ok I was just waiting for u to get out of game
2:38 PM - Swiggiy: its k though
2:38 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: yeah nah im not playing atm, just sitting in a server to test long term ping
2:40 PM - Swiggiy: wait so are we good? Should I send the payment?
2:40 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: yeah im good to go
2:40 PM - Swiggiy: kk ill pm u when i send
2:40 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: kk
2:41 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: I should see it come through anyway
2:42 PM - Swiggiy: probably
2:42 PM - Swiggiy: whats the email again
2:42 PM - Swiggiy: i cant find it
2:42 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: t4timb@hotmail.com
2:42 PM - Swiggiy: lemme copy past that
2:43 PM - Swiggiy: ti4mb@hotmail.com ?
2:43 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: t4timb
2:43 PM - Swiggiy: isnt that what i put
2:43 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: no haha
2:43 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: ti4mb
2:43 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: is what you put
2:43 PM - Swiggiy: oh I see
2:44 PM - Swiggiy: i sent it
2:44 PM - You have accepted the trade request from Swiggiy.
2:47 PM - Swiggiy: uh
2:47 PM - Swiggiy: hmmm
2:47 PM - Swiggiy: r u sure
2:48 PM - Swiggiy: you are looking at your summary right
2:48 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: yeah
2:48 PM - Swiggiy: try refreshing
2:49 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: ...
2:49 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: srs m8
2:49 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: I've just now recieved an Invoice, but im not taking Invoices because they aren't direct payments. Im only taking direct Paypal Payments sorry..
2:49 PM - Swiggiy: uh wait
2:49 PM - Swiggiy: then can I have my money back
2:49 PM - Swiggiy: cause i was charged $50
2:49 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: The payment will take up to 24 hours to reflect in your PayPal balance. This transaction cannot be charged back or refunded in anyway.
2:49 PM - Swiggiy: I know but you could be gone in 24 hrs
2:50 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: screen shot your transaction for me
2:50 PM - Swiggiy: kk sec
2:51 PM - Swiggiy: ill upload to imgur
2:52 PM - Swiggiy: sorry my internet is slow thats probably why it took forever to reach u
2:53 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Internet speed shouldn't be an issue through paypal man, Invoices can be spoofed and cancelled.. Im only willing to take direct deposits for anything, else my inventory wont move.
2:53 PM - Swiggiy: no i mean imgur is taking forever to upload
2:53 PM - Swiggiy: what image site do you use
2:53 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: i use a program called Puush
2:53 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: lets me take screenshots with shortcut keys and auto uploadsthem
2:54 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: good look at if you plan on taking a lot of screenshots
2:55 PM - Swiggiy: where do i get that
2:55 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: just google Puush
2:56 PM - Swiggiy: ill just wait for imgur to fucking upoload
2:56 PM - Swiggiy: dowloand puush will take even longer
2:56 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: how bad is your internet? D:
2:56 PM - Swiggiy: were talking 1980 lol
2:56 PM - Swiggiy: not really that bad
2:56 PM - Swiggiy: just netflix users are hogs
2:56 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: oh lord.
2:57 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Netflix has ruined Australia
2:58 PM - Swiggiy: omfg yes
2:58 PM - Swiggiy: it is up
2:58 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: link
2:59 PM - Swiggiy: http://i.imgur.com/OVzOQ4S.png
2:59 PM - Swiggiy: oops
2:59 PM - Swiggiy: wrong on i guess i didnt copy
2:59 PM - Swiggiy: here u go
2:59 PM - Swiggiy: http://i.imgur.com/gnvt3Bw.png
3:02 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Uhh.. Okay. well I don't actually have any money in my paypal.. so once i recieve any of that money via the invoice i will have to either refund it to you or i'll send you the knife. that's the only way I see it working out.
3:02 PM - Swiggiy: dude thats 24 hrs u could run with the knife and money
3:03 PM - Swiggiy: i litterally cant do anything
3:03 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: you can dispute with Paypal and they get really mad and refund it for you and give me a fee.
3:03 PM - Swiggiy: cant
3:03 PM - Swiggiy: did u not read the terms
3:03 PM - Swiggiy: of the gift payment
3:03 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: you can though, i've done it before.
3:04 PM - Swiggiy: only if you do it through your bank
3:04 PM - Swiggiy: you can see though i dont have one added
3:04 PM - Swiggiy: so it was straight from paypal
3:04 PM - Swiggiy: Terms and Conditions

This is a PayPal Gift. The amount can take up to 24 hours to reflect in your PayPal balance. This gift is non-refundable and has been marked as a Friends and Family Gift.
3:05 PM - Swiggiy: dude please dont try to scam me
3:06 PM - Swiggiy: i trusted u when u said u didnt want an mm
3:06 PM - Swiggiy: i even went first
3:06 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Im not scamming at all dude
3:06 PM - Swiggiy: dude i cant get the money back
3:06 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: there's no way I am able to refund what i don't have.
3:07 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Once i get it I can send you the knife or refund it.
3:07 PM - Swiggiy: dude ill report u
3:07 PM - Swiggiy: please dont scam me
3:07 PM - Swiggiy: ur just gonna run
3:07 PM - Swiggiy: as soon as im offline
3:07 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: .....
3:07 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: you can report me on every single site there is possible to after i recieve the payment.... if you want to look bad after recieving your knife once i recieve the money.
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: dude i sent u the money and everything
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: dude
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: thats not cool
3:08 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: i haven't recieved anything at all.
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: aoweighgt
3:08 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:08 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:08 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:08 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:08 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:08 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: all i have is a dodgy invoice
3:08 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: dude i lost $50
3:08 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:08 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: you will get your knife when i get my payment through
3:08 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:08 PM - Swiggiy: i cant even get it back if u run away
3:09 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:09 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:09 PM - Swiggiy had asked to trade with you, but you did not respond in time.
3:09 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: i don't understand why you think Im trying to scam you.
3:09 PM - Swiggiy: because u have my money and i dont have ur knife
3:10 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: I don't have any money yet though
3:10 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: http://puu.sh/joDfx/1dc5276038.png
3:10 PM - Swiggiy: neither do i cause
3:10 PM - Swiggiy: it was sent to ur account
3:10 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: My Balance is still sitting on $0
3:10 PM - Swiggiy: dude its cause ur not using usd
3:10 PM - Swiggiy: its your fault not mine
3:10 PM - Call from Swiggiy started.
3:11 PM - Call with Swiggiy ended.
3:11 PM - Swiggiy had asked to trade with you, but you did not respond in time.
3:11 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: http://www.ehow.com/how_12056368_back-paypal-gift.html
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: if I claim "Unauthorized transactions" that is fraud
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: on my part
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: and if u read the rest
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: it says u cant
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: get it back
3:12 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/beware-paypal-gift-chargeback-fraud-will-defraud-sellers-784828.html
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: thats if you pay with a bank account or credit card. In the picture you can see that i dont have either of those attached
3:12 PM - Swiggiy: so im fucked
3:13 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Screenshot the Details of the payment then so i can see it was directly out of paypal funds.
3:13 PM - Swiggiy: kk
3:13 PM - Swiggiy: sec
3:13 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Cause for all i know you could have just had a card on it then taken it off for the screenshot
3:13 PM - Swiggiy: sec
3:17 PM - Swiggiy: fucking imgur
3:18 PM - Swiggiy: http://i.imgur.com/WwhkGtY.png
3:20 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: sec
3:20 PM - Swiggiy: k
3:22 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: just a heads up regarding paypal gift payment. Recently I had one reversed for over $1000. I was only notified 4 days after receiving the payment. These payments can be reversed just like a normal Paypal payment. They can be reversed if funded by a credit card, Bank account or even if the funds are in the sender paypal account.
3:22 PM - Swiggiy: ????
3:22 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: http://puu.sh/joDPO/94b3777cb1.png
3:22 PM - Swiggiy: IF FUNDED BY CREDIT CARD or BANK account
3:22 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: "or even if the funds are in the sender paypal account. "
3:22 PM - Swiggiy: its impossible if its a gift that was sent with paypal fund
3:22 PM - Swiggiy: google it
3:23 PM - Swiggiy: that guy is lying or is a retard
3:23 PM - Swiggiy: https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/Disputes-and-claims/Paypal-Chargebacks/td-p/687501?profile.language=en-gb
3:23 PM - Swiggiy: official page
3:23 PM - Swiggiy: Back to paypal disputes, if you pay using the gift / family/ friends option then you can't file a dispute as that is a "gift" payment and you can't ask for gifts back again.
3:25 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: let me open a support ticket with paypal
3:25 PM - Swiggiy: ok I dont care
3:25 PM - Swiggiy: but I fucking knew
3:25 PM - Swiggiy: you were trying to scam
3:25 PM - Swiggiy: me
3:25 PM - Swiggiy: of course a scammer would refuse a middleman
3:25 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Scammers usually ask for a middleman.....
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: ???
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: not when doing money payments
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: dude
3:26 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: "3:25 PM - `Sleepy! youtube.com/0mrdanger: id jus tell him to wait
3:25 PM - `Sleepy! youtube.com/0mrdanger: untill you actually get the money
3:25 PM - `Sleepy! youtube.com/0mrdanger: if hes not happy with that then thats just his loss
3:25 PM - `Sleepy! youtube.com/0mrdanger: or pay the payment like a normal person lol
"
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: r u like new at this or something
3:26 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: are you? because you sent a Gift Invoice like a looney
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: I fucking paid likie a normal person
3:26 PM - Swiggiy: its because u arent fucking using usd
3:27 PM - Swiggiy: omfg i cant beleive im getting scammed
3:27 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: are you though? are you really?
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: yes i am
3:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: how so?
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: i fucking paid almost an hour ago
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: lost my money
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: and you have my knife
3:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Have I blocked you? and unfriended you?
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: your draggin this out till i go offline
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: so my chat is gone
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: and the history of the chat is ogne
3:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: ... save the chat then..
3:28 PM - Swiggiy: i cant save it
3:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: that's what i've been doing
3:28 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: COPY PASTE IT INTO NOTEPAD.
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: i can copy and paste into a text document but theres no proof i didnt write it myself
3:29 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Screenshot it
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: YOU THINK STEAM SUPPORT IS RETARDED?
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: Plus
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: its not steam support
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: its paypal that I have to deal with
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: and they cant do anything about this since
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: 1) I sent it as  agift
3:29 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Yeah but if i don't recieve a payment then it'
3:29 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: it's Steam support and Paypal i have to deal with
3:29 PM - Swiggiy: 2) its a virtual item and its against their T.O.S
3:30 PM - Swiggiy: steam supp-ort doesnt deal with other companies problems
3:30 PM - Swiggiy: so even if i paid for it without a gift option im still fucked
3:31 PM - Swiggiy: please man
3:32 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Once i recieve a confirmation of my secured payment you will recieve your item.
3:33 PM - Swiggiy: You did though I sent u screen shots u also SAID you got it. Its just converting to your currency
3:33 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: whether it be a "yes it's safe transaction" from a Paypal admin, or it be the $50 getting into my account
3:33 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: I Said i got an Invoice
3:33 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Not a payment
3:33 PM - Swiggiy: Thats the same fucking thing though did you not see my screenshot
3:33 PM - Swiggiy: i sent u payment
3:33 PM - Swiggiy: paypal sent u an invoice since they have to convert the money
3:33 PM - Swiggiy: its not my fucking fault
3:34 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: And it may not be your fault but until i recieve a full payment to my account that actually shows up.. the knife is not moving.
3:35 PM - Swiggiy: dude im reporting u litterally every site i can find
3:35 PM - Swiggiy: i dont care that i lost $50
3:35 PM - Swiggiy: but i hope you rot
3:35 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Rightio buddy, if you want to be salty than you can be, but im not planning on running with the money..
3:36 PM - Swiggiy is now Offline.
4:22 PM - Swiggiy is currently offline, they will receive your message the next time they log in.
4:22 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: you're an idiot scammer, I just read the email, you're just the best.... good luck scamming people in the future...
4:33 PM - ZeroRecoil *WTS KNIVES: Submitting a report for you on SteamRep Now. hope you get cancer.