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[14:43] <MZ|FFX> Well, are we ready?
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[14:43] <Chainoffire> i'm ready
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[14:43] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I'm good
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[14:43] <Chainoffire> i ran out of the shower for this
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[14:43] * MZ|FFX is now known as MysteriousZorua
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[14:44] * ChanServ sets mode: +v maggosh
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[14:44] <FM|Phone> oh, by tag way
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[14:44] <FM|Phone> I'm leaving in a couple of mins
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[14:44] <MysteriousZorua> Okay then
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[14:44] <MysteriousZorua> We should start now
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[14:44] <FM|Phone> but I might return in 20, 30 mins
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[14:44] <FM|Phone> I've already posted my ideas tho
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[14:44] <Chainoffire> STATO!
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[14:44] <+maggosh> Thought I should sit this one in.
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[14:45] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Well, first of all, I think it should be noted, that this is the thirtieth meeting of the Roundtable
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[14:45] <Chainoffire> woohoo!
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[14:45] <MysteriousZorua> Nice!
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[14:45] <+Neumannz> we're old
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[14:45] <+maggosh> I'm broke
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[14:45] <Chainoffire> I'm hungry
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[14:46] <FM|Phone> let's eat
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[14:46] <+Neumannz> ROUNDTABLE'S OFF, WE'RE GOING EATING
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[14:46] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok
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[14:46] <+Neumannz> YAAAAY
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[14:46] <Chainoffire> woo!
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[14:46] <+Neumannz> ok, seriously, let's go
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[14:46] <KeybladeSpyMaste> (but someone else is paying)
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[14:46] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok
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[14:46] <FM|Phone> key lime pie, anyone?
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[14:46] <Chainoffire> XD)
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[14:46] <FM|Phone> anyway let's start
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[14:46] <KeybladeSpyMaste> 1st item
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[14:47] <+Neumannz> oy vey
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[14:47] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Competition follow-up.
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[14:47] <FM|Phone> yeah, we should start this thing
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[14:47] <FM|Phone> start taking in emails etc
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[14:47] <FM|Phone> anyway I need to go now
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[14:47] <FM|Phone> bbl
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[14:48] <Chainoffire> who's in charge of the competition?
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[14:48] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I don't know.
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[14:48] <KeybladeSpyMaste> As I recall, Erry still wanted to be involved in it.
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[14:48] <Chainoffire> we should make someone in charge
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[14:48] <Chainoffire> 1 or 2 people
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[14:48] <MysteriousZorua> I still see Erry on Skype often
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[14:48] <Chainoffire> as do i
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[14:49] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Let me check if Erry said he wanted to be in charge. I can't remember
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[14:49] <+UC|SM4SHHYPE> oh, right, I'm still here
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[14:50] <KeybladeSpyMaste> [17:06] <+Luxerion> i can host and/or participate
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[14:51] <KeybladeSpyMaste> ^ From the August Roundtable
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[14:51] <+Neumannz> if he can host, that'd be awesome
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[14:51] <KeybladeSpyMaste> We ought to ask him to be sure, but that's what he said two months ago.
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[14:51] <Chainoffire> we should ask him again
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[14:51] <MysteriousZorua> I've just sent a message to Erry about this
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[14:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> We also ought to decide what we want to do for it, no?
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[14:52] <MysteriousZorua> It says he's online, so we may expect a reply
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[14:52] <Chainoffire> okay, on another note, we should decide what we're doing
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[14:52] <Chainoffire> and start sign ups
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[14:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> http://www.khwiki.com/Forum:2014%27s_End_of_Year_Event
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[14:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> That's the list of ideas we poured together
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[14:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> FM said he wants to do ANX's idea.
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[14:53] <Chainoffire> is that the user guessing game?
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[14:53] <MysteriousZorua> While we're doing this thing, maybe some of us should also work on an LP for KHIIFM
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[14:53] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yeah
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[14:54] <+Neumannz> those of us who CAN
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[14:54] <MysteriousZorua> True
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[14:54] <Chainoffire> ^
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[14:56] <MysteriousZorua> So what now?
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[14:57] <Chainoffire> i'll make a sign up page
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[14:57] <+Neumannz> that works
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[14:57] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Should we do ANX's idea, then?
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[14:57] <MysteriousZorua> I won't take part this time. I may be playing KHIIFM, but that starts on December 14
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[14:58] <+maggosh> December 2
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[14:58] <Chainoffire> ANX's idea sounds good
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[14:58] <+maggosh> I agree.
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[14:58] <Chainoffire> i think that was the most popular
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[14:58] <+maggosh> I have an idea, but I don't know if it's up to par.
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[14:58] <Chainoffire> go ahead
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[14:58] <MysteriousZorua> It's now or never
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[14:59] <+Neumannz> speak now or forever hold your pieces
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[15:00] <+maggosh> Okay; basically it's a non-Disney world integration contest.
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[15:00] <+maggosh> Like, you take a property you really want to see in KH and adapt it.
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[15:01] <MysteriousZorua> If it means other studios, then count me out
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[15:01] <+maggosh> Doesn't have to be.
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[15:01] <+maggosh> It can be fully Disney.
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[15:01] <MysteriousZorua> Like unadaptated Disney films?
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[15:02] <MysteriousZorua> (Frozen, for example?)
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[15:02] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I like that idea. I, too, would prefer it to remain Disney works. But whatever is decided is good.
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[15:02] <+maggosh> Yes.
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[15:02] <Chainoffire> add it to the forum
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[15:03] <MysteriousZorua> As long as it's in the Disney Animated Canon or anything owned by Disney, I'm okay with it (but NOT Disney Channel)
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[15:03] <+Neumannz> ok
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[15:03] <+maggosh> Would you accept Marvel?
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[15:03] <MysteriousZorua> Personally, I'd like to see Labyrinth be adaptated
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[15:04] <+UC|SM4SHHYPE> pssst, what are we talking about?
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[15:04] <MysteriousZorua> Yes, of course!
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[15:04] <Coldasfiyah> ^^^
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[15:04] * UC|SM4SHHYPE is now known as Cheisa
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[15:04] <MysteriousZorua> And LucasArt, hence "Labyrinth"
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[15:04] <KeybladeSpyMaste> UC, we're discussing the End of Year event
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[15:04] <Coldasfiyah> Ooh
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[15:04] <+Cheisa> and the idea is "make a world"?
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[15:04] <+maggosh> Yeah.
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[15:04] <Coldasfiyah> Someone bring me up to speed
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[15:04] <+maggosh> Adapt it to KH.
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[15:05] <MysteriousZorua> I've already chosen what I'll do... and you guys already know!
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[15:05] <+Cheisa> oh ok
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[15:07] <KeybladeSpyMaste> So, it comes down to a vote. Do we hold the vote on the forum, or should we just decide here which event to do?
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[15:08] <Chainoffire> forum
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[15:08] <Coldasfiyah> ^
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[15:08] <MysteriousZorua> Forum
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[15:08] <+Neumannz> ^
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[15:08] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok
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[15:09] <KeybladeSpyMaste> but we need to actually vote. That forum's been there since August, and very little's been done
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[15:09] <Coldasfiyah> Generally we don't get ourselves together tiill aroudn November...lol
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[15:09] <Chainoffire> XD
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[15:10] <Coldasfiyah> When'd we actually approve and start EOYE 2012?
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[15:10] <Chainoffire> also, we should take out all the suggestions besides those two
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[15:11] <KeybladeSpyMaste> brb
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[15:12] <+maggosh> Okay, submitted.
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[15:12] <Chainoffire> I'm gonna be leaving for the rest of the RT, if you want to see my thoughts, look here: http://www.khwiki.com/User:Chainoffire/Sandbox#Roundtable_Thoughts
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[15:13] <Chainoffire> Also, the magazine is 95% done, it shall be up in a few hours
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[15:13] <MysteriousZorua> Okay, then
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[15:13] <+Cheisa> whats the 5%? the real podcast that we never recorded?
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[15:14] <Chainoffire> that's 1%
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[15:15] <Chainoffire> we just have to convert it to .net coding, and upload a few pictures, and tweak a few things
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[15:15] <Chainoffire> but ill see yalls later!
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[15:16] <MysteriousZorua> So, what now?
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[15:16] <Nezzy> Move on?
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[15:17] <MysteriousZorua> I guess so
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[15:17] <Nezzy> What's item two
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[15:17] <MysteriousZorua> The next is on whether the KHWiki should also join NIWA, as SEIWA is almost dead, and there's been four KH games on Nintendo handhelds.
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[15:18] <Nezzy> Do we qualify
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[15:18] <Coldasfiyah> "Looks like SEIWA is to be revived. But I'll leave this up, just in case" -Uxie
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[15:18] <+maggosh> I would say so.
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[15:18] <+maggosh> Is there a Sony equivalent?
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[15:18] <MysteriousZorua> SCIWA?
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[15:18] <MysteriousZorua> At the moment, no
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[15:18] <Nezzy> Never heard of one
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[15:18] <MysteriousZorua> But I want SCIWA to come alive one day
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[15:19] <MysteriousZorua> SCIWA - Sony Computer Independent Wiki Alliance
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[15:19] <Coldasfiyah> How many wiki alliances are there? ._.
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[15:20] <MysteriousZorua> At the moment, just NIWA and SEIWA
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[15:20] <MysteriousZorua> There's also a SIWA, but it's being run single-handedly by a troll
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[15:20] <+maggosh> There's also the Valve Wiki Network.
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[15:20] <Coldasfiyah> So, about NIWA then.
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[15:20] <Coldasfiyah> What benefits do we get by joining them?
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[15:20] <Coldasfiyah> If any?
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[15:21] <MysteriousZorua> Alliances with about 21 wikis
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[15:22] <Coldasfiyah> And that's relevant how?
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[15:22] <MysteriousZorua> http://www.niwanetwork.org/join.php
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[15:23] <Nezzy> If we qualify, I saw join, regardless of SEIWA's future
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[15:23] <Nezzy> We can be in more than one alliance
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[15:23] <Coldasfiyah> But why should we join anyways? (I'm not against the notion, I'm just wondering why)
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[15:23] <MysteriousZorua> Two members of SEIWA are already in NIWA
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[15:24] <Nezzy> Why be in any alliance at all
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[15:24] <FifteenthMember> Hi
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[15:24] <FifteenthMember> What we at?
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[15:24] <Coldasfiyah> So basically peer pressure? ._.
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[15:24] <MysteriousZorua> KHWiki joining NIWA
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[15:24] <Coldasfiyah> SEIWA, NIWA
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[15:24] <Nezzy> No
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[15:24] <Nezzy> Cross pollination
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[15:25] <Coldasfiyah> ...?
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[15:25] <FifteenthMember> Err, could anyone provide a log please? :P
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[15:25] <+maggosh> I don't see a problem with it, honestly.
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[15:25] <FifteenthMember> I prefer normal affiliates over "alliances", but yeah
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[15:25] <FifteenthMember> They basically do the same thing
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[15:25] <Coldasfiyah> There's probably no reason for us to NOT apply, but is there good reason for us to apply in the first place? :P
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[15:25] <MysteriousZorua> KH is part-Nintendo
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[15:26] <FifteenthMember> Maggosh: I like your world adaptation idea
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[15:26] <FifteenthMember> It's cool
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[15:26] <+maggosh> Thank you.
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[15:26] <MysteriousZorua> 4/7 games are on Nintendo handhelds
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[15:26] <Coldasfiyah> ...so?
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[15:27] <KSM|Dinner> back
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[15:27] <KSM|Dinner> nick KeybladeSpyMaster
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[15:27] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Sorry
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[15:27] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Where are we at?
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[15:27] <Coldasfiyah> NIWA
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[15:28] <FifteenthMember> We're already affiliated with NIWA, I noticed
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[15:28] <MysteriousZorua> Yes
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[15:28] <MysteriousZorua> But we're not members
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[15:28] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ah
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[15:29] <FifteenthMember> I literally have no view on the matter
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[15:29] <FifteenthMember> It would be cool if we join
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[15:29] <FifteenthMember> It would be cool if we don't
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[15:29] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think we should join, if we want.
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[15:29] <Coldasfiyah> Go for it, I don't see how it would affect anything anyways
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[15:30] <Nezzy> Bragging rights
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[15:30] <Nezzy> Shrug
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[15:30] <FifteenthMember> There's no harm, so I guess we might as well try
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[15:31] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I mean, it's not like we get blacklisted or anything, so nothing bad will happen if we apply and aren't allowed to join
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[15:31] <Coldasfiyah> Any dissent?
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[15:31] <Coldasfiyah> Shall we move on?
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[15:32] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I'm good to move on
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[15:32] <FifteenthMember> If we join them
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[15:32] <FifteenthMember> Can we join the SEIWA and NIWA boxes together so they don't take up too much space on hte main page?
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[15:32] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I would think so.
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[15:32] <FifteenthMember> Okay.
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[15:33] <Coldasfiyah> Moving on...?
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[15:33] <FifteenthMember> yeah
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[15:33] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yep
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[15:33] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Item 3
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[15:33] <Coldasfiyah> "Kingdom Hearts HD userboxes." - Master Riku the Bloody
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[15:33] <FifteenthMember> I don't know what we need to discuss here
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[15:33] <KeybladeSpyMaste> He refereth to some I made a year ago
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[15:33] <FifteenthMember> What's the problem with them?
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[15:33] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Nothing. They don't exist
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[15:33] <Nezzy> I have no give-a-care on this
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[15:34] <KeybladeSpyMaste> http://www.khwiki.com/User:KeybladeSpyMaster/Gadget_Lab/Userboxes#Kingdom_Hearts_HD_1.5_ReMIX_Trophies
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[15:34] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think he wants to know if we should make them.
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[15:34] <KeybladeSpyMaste> He wanted me to, but I told him we needed more people to want them, so we don't have to delete them later because only one or two people use them.
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[15:34] <Nezzy> Why not
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[15:34] <Nezzy> Just don't go overboard
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[15:35] <FifteenthMember> OK
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[15:35] <Coldasfiyah> Done with that?
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[15:35] <KeybladeSpyMaste> So I can make them, then?
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[15:35] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Cool
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[15:35] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Moving on?
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[15:35] <Coldasfiyah> "Character article "ability" section reformat." - TheFifteenthMember
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[15:35] <FifteenthMember> Yeah.
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[15:36] <FifteenthMember> http://www.khwiki.com/User:TheFifteenthMember/Workshop#Roundtable_Thoughts_03.2F10.2F14
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[15:36] <FifteenthMember> I've written my thoughts here
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[15:36] <Nezzy> I like your prose idea
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[15:36] <Nezzy> The lists never looked good
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[15:36] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I don't know if I want a list
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[15:36] <KeybladeSpyMaste> But.
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[15:37] <KeybladeSpyMaste> We should provide a way to link the abilities to their character(s)
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[15:37] <KeybladeSpyMaste> At least, I think they should. I don't know what you guys think
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[15:38] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Wait....reading the Riku article that FM provided.
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[15:38] <Nezzy> Can name abilities in a prose paragraph
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[15:38] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I like that idea. I very much prefer it. And it still links to the abilities...so I think we should do that.
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[15:38] <FifteenthMember> The Ability articles themselves list the abilities already
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[15:39] <FifteenthMember> http://www.khwiki.com/Abilities_(KH)
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[15:39] <FifteenthMember> Okay then. Let's start doing that
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[15:39] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok
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[15:39] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think we should link to those articles at the beginning of each game's section. What do you guys think?
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[15:40] <FifteenthMember> Yeah. It'd be something like "Their [[Abilites (KH)|abilities]] include..."
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[15:40] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Like, it would say "See also Abilities (KH)" at the beginning of the Kingdom Hearts section.
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[15:41] <Coldasfiyah> or put it in the infobox?
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[15:41] <FifteenthMember> Err, I disagree with that part.
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[15:41] <Nezzy> "For more information, see..."?
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[15:41] <FifteenthMember> Would it be a "main" template?
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[15:41] <KeybladeSpyMaste> No, not necessarily
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[15:41] <Nezzy> Not "main" but we have a better one
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[15:41] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think we have a template that says "See also"
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[15:42] <KeybladeSpyMaste> http://www.khwiki.com/Template:See_also
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[15:42] <Coldasfiyah> oh right
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[15:42] <FifteenthMember> Okay
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[15:42] <Nezzy> Perfect
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[15:42] <FifteenthMember> Is that wrapped up? Should we continue?
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[15:42] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yep
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[15:42] <Coldasfiyah> Youtube channel - Uxie
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[15:43] <Coldasfiyah> "We should upload videos of boss battles, coliseum/Mirage Arena battles, and mini-games onto our YouTube page, and use the resulting videos for the "Game:" articles, as many of the videos we link to are of poor quality. We'll need to record the battles ourselves, and list any user who'd be willing to capture these (like I'm currently doing for Kingdom Hearts Final Mix). It would also be a...
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[15:43] <Coldasfiyah> ...good plan for our YT account, as it's falling into disuse after awhile."
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[15:43] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think this is a good idea
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[15:43] <Nezzy> Well, we're using it for podcasts
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[15:43] <+Cheisa> oh, right, I should work on that new banner art I keep forgetting to do
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[15:43] <Coldasfiyah> I think improving the videos is definitely a good idea
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[15:43] <Nezzy> But yes
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[15:43] <KeybladeSpyMaste> A lot of our videos on the articles aren't ours, and some have even been taken down in the last while.
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[15:43] <MysteriousZorua> Here's the videos I've recorded for the account so far
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[15:43] <MysteriousZorua> http://www.khwiki.com/User:UxieLover1994/Arenero#Recorded_Bosses
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[15:43] <Nezzy> If our guys who can record would be willing
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[15:44] <Nezzy> Or our YouTube affiliates
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[15:44] <KeybladeSpyMaste> ^
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[15:44] <KeybladeSpyMaste> That would be cool
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[15:44] <FifteenthMember> Yeah
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[15:44] <Coldasfiyah> slave labor
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[15:44] <MysteriousZorua> I've got KHFM and KHIIFM (the latter upon 2.5's release in English)
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[15:44] <Nezzy> Preferably the first choice
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[15:44] <MysteriousZorua> ...but not all in either game
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[15:45] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Yeah, probably would be best to do it ourselves
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[15:45] <Coldasfiyah> Should we create sign ups then?
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[15:45] <MysteriousZorua> Yes
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[15:46] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Is that it? Anything else we should consider regarding this?
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[15:47] <FifteenthMember> I don't have anything
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[15:47] <Nezzy> We'll have to figure out who can do it
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[15:47] <MysteriousZorua> I'd said everyone I wanted tonight
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[15:47] <+Cheisa> where hell is that large 2.5 art
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[15:47] <KeybladeSpyMaste> At what point should we ask our YouTube affiliates to help?
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[15:47] <Nezzy> If we get no takers from our editors
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[15:48] <Nezzy> After a white
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[15:48] <Nezzy> *while
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[15:48] <FifteenthMember> I don't think we can ask ErryK though
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[15:48] <FifteenthMember> He's in university currently so he's temporarily inactive
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[15:48] <FifteenthMember> The rest, yeah
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[15:48] <+Neumannz> ultima spark?
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[15:48] <MysteriousZorua> If I have to, I'll do BBSFM as well
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[15:48] <+Neumannz> that would help
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[15:49] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok
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[15:49] <+Cheisa> oh, found it
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[15:49] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Moving on?
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[15:49] <Nezzy> Sure
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[15:50] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Special item that has nothing to do with recent events....maybe....
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[15:50] <MysteriousZorua> ?
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[15:50] <KeybladeSpyMaste> So, we were discussing this week on the IRC
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[15:50] <KeybladeSpyMaste> a potential alliance with several wikis
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[15:51] <FifteenthMember> Woohoo
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[15:51] <FifteenthMember> This is a temporary alliance by the way
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[15:51] <KeybladeSpyMaste> to deal together with the issues at the DisneyWiki
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[15:51] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Seeing as it still hasn't stopped.
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[15:51] <FifteenthMember> Basically, we want to put pressure on the Disney Wiki so that they're more likely to cooperate and get things done
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[15:51] <Nezzy> So, like a Disney wiki protest alliance?
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[15:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Basically
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[15:52] <Nezzy> THAT IS AWESOME
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[15:52] <FifteenthMember> And more and more Wikis are complaining to them about plagiarism
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[15:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Two just this week alone
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[15:52] <Nezzy> who
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[15:52] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Pixar Wiki
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[15:52] <FifteenthMember> Yeah, so we plan on contacting all the Wikis and forming a temporary alliance
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[15:53] <KeybladeSpyMaste> and Doraemon Wiki
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[15:53] <FifteenthMember> And then we can go to Disney Wiki, show them that x amount of Wikis have signed a "petition" of some sort against them
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[15:53] <MysteriousZorua> If only we could create a DIWA...
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[15:53] <FifteenthMember> Justice League of Plagiarism
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[15:53] <Nezzy> This is both awesome and hilarious
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[15:53] <Nezzy> I say let's do it
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[15:54] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Pixar Wiki has a longer history, they appear to have been dealing with this for about five years
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[15:54] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Doreamon Wiki doesn't seem to mind too much, they just complained about one article
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[15:54] <Nezzy> Goddamn
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[15:54] <KeybladeSpyMaste> But there's also the Tron Wiki
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[15:54] <Nezzy> These guys have problems
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[15:54] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I think the Muppets Wiki
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[15:54] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Us and the Keyhole
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[15:55] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Ok, I messed up it's not five years. The guy mentioned December 2014, not 2010
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[15:56] <Nezzy> So, time travel
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[15:56] <FifteenthMember> What should we seriously call this thing though?
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[15:56] <Nezzy> This keeps getting better
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[15:56] <KeybladeSpyMaste> The Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki has also complained in the past
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[15:56] <FifteenthMember> We need a "brand name" so that we can communicate the idea easier to the other Wikis
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[15:57] <Coldasfiyah> Something better than "Disney Protest Wiki Alliance"
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[15:57] <Coldasfiyah> lol
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[15:57] <+Cheisa> how the fuck does Doreamon got involved in Disney
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[15:57] <Nezzy> Wiki alliance for responsible attribution
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[15:57] <Nezzy> ?
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[15:57] <FifteenthMember> Justice League of Plagarisim was made to annoy Byz with a DCU reference
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[15:57] <KeybladeSpyMaste> UC, I think they mentioned it's a show on Disney Channel or something.
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[15:57] <+Cheisa> DC is the hype
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[15:57] <KeybladeSpyMaste> I've never heard of it, though
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[15:57] <FifteenthMember> NZ: Okay
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[15:58] <Coldasfiyah> I kind of like Justice League of Plagiarism haha
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[15:58] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Attribution, though, as the user from the Pixar Wiki noted, only helps identify where the plagiarism is. And in one sense, he believes it kinda encourages it, as long as it's attributed.
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[15:59] <FifteenthMember> That's true, however, there's unfortunately nothing we can do about that
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[16:00] <FifteenthMember> As Creative Commons states, our text is allowed to be copied, as long as we're cited
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[16:00] <KeybladeSpyMaste> Maybe, but even the DisneyWiki's policy is against plagiarism
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[16:00] <KeybladeSpyMaste> (not that they've done a good job at stopping it.)
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[16:01] <FifteenthMember> Plus, getting the DW to do anything involving serious editing means taking decades
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[16:01] <FifteenthMember> If we compromise on just attribution templates, there's actually hope in the project finishing
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