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01:49		*** Zt joined #capasb
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01:49	dogfish44	I always prefer runs where I find mistakes
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01:49	dogfish44	so I can vent some steam ^_^
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01:50	Zt		I need to rage.
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01:50	Zt rages
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01:50	Zarator		<%dogfish44> Hey, Z, I finally have a reason for you to buy a Yamask for the Ghost Gym
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01:50	Zarator		Explain
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01:50	Zt		Man, Feint can't combo Punches.... D:<
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01:50	Objection	well it can but it ends up normal-type iirc
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01:50	Matezoide	!move Feint
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01:51	Zt		Nope, in the case of Drain Punch.
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01:51	Objection	actually, if you combined Feint and Drain Punch it'd be fighting
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01:51	dogfish44	So you can make feel less bad by giving one a good home
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01:51	Zt		Unfortunatel, waterwarrior illegalize that combo...
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01:51	Zt		*Unfortunately
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01:51	dogfish44	Feint combos with Drain Punch
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01:51	dogfish44	-__-
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01:51	Zarator	
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01:52	Objection	why would it be illegal?
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01:52	Zarator		That's... beautiful
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01:52	Matezoide	Thats sad
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01:52	Zt		I quote:-
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01:52	Zt		Drain Punch requires direct contact, but Feint deals damage through a shock wave.
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01:52	Matezoide	tbh, Yamask is another mon of my list
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01:52	Matezoide	I shall call it
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01:52	Zt		Can't I just shock, then Punch?
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01:52	dogfish44	Feint is just an aura
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01:52	Matezoide	''Mumm-Ra.''
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01:52	Objection	"Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent ..."
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01:52	dogfish44	it's well known for combining into any move
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01:52	Matezoide	THE EVER LIVING!
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01:52	dogfish44	that is physical
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01:52	Objection	Feint is a contact move not codified as a contact move
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01:52	Objection	like Sky Attack
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01:53	dogfish44	^
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01:53	Zt		?_? As in, Obj?
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01:54	dogfish44	it has the flavour of a contact move
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01:54	dogfish44	it combines with pretty much any contact move
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01:54	dogfish44	especially the normal/fighting ones, a la punches & kicks
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01:54	Objection	!publicmove Sky Attack
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01:54	Onion_Bubs	Sky Attack: The Pokemon gathers its strength, charging its body with a massive amount of energy, then unleashes the energy with a quick thrust, sending it slamming into the foe for incredible damage. The sheer power of the attack may knock the opponent off balance, causing it to flinch.
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01:54	Onion_Bubs	Attack Power: 14 | Accuracy: 90% | Energy Cost: 10 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: 30% | Contact: No | Typing: Flying | Priority: Charge: 1, Hit: -1 | CT: Force
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01:54	Zt		!move Feint
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01:54	Objection	see how the description says it slams into the foe (implying contact) yet the data line below says Contact: No
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	Credit for this script goes to Charmander. Now attempting to fetch Feint's data ...
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going. The energy wavelength of the afterimage ruptures the protective effects of Detect, Protect, Wide Guard, and Quick Guard for the rest of the actio
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	n on the opponent or the opponent's team in the case of Wide and Quick Guard.
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	Attack Power: 4 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 4 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: No | Typing: Normal | Priority: 2 | CT: Set
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01:55	Objection	!publicmove Feint
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	Feint: The Pokémon surrounds itself with a faint aura and rushes at the opponent with great speed, generating an afterimage. The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going. The energy wavelength of the afterimage ruptures the protective effects of Detect, Protect, Wide Guard, and Quick Guard for the rest of the actio
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	n on the opponent or the opponent's team in the case of Wide and Quick Guard.
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01:55	Onion_Bubs	Attack Power: 4 | Accuracy: 100% | Energy Cost: 4 | Attack Type: Physical | Effect Chance: -- | Contact: No | Typing: Normal | Priority: 2 | CT: Set
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01:55	Zt		No Contact, either.
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01:55	Objection	Here, it says the pokemon strikes the opponent
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01:55	Objection	implying contact, yet, again, the data line says no
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01:55	Objection	and iirc there's one more move like that
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01:55	Objection	i can't remember what
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01:56	CMFP		"The Pokemon makes a stop before striking the opponent and the afterimage continues going."
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01:57	CMFP		so I think the description, although really weird, makes it sound like it's no contact
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01:58	Zt		As in stop, no strike.
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01:58	Matezoide	It sounds like the pokemon stops and doesnt strikes at all
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01:58	Zt		Unlike Obj's interpretation of "stop, then strike"
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01:58	dogfish44	Feint is a non-contact move that is still a legitimate combination with most contact moves. HAPPY.
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01:59	CMFP		yeah I think feint could probably be comboed with stuff
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01:59	dogfish44	Imagine the afterimage darts slightly faster than the actual mon in the attack
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01:59	Zt		So am I allowed to ask waterwarrior to reconsider?
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01:59	Zt is hopeful...?
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02:00	Objection	it sounded more to me like the afterimage was nothing but an intangible illusion that prompted the mon to set up protect/detect/whatever too soon
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02:00	Objection	if you do ask him to reconsider
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02:00	Objection	copy a log of the discussion
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02:01	dogfish44	Say that the majority of the ASB higher ups say it works