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      Pokemon Soul Silver Glitchless FAQ  
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      Pokemon Soul Silver E4R2 Bounty Speedrun FAQ  
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Q: What is this speedrun?
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A: No, I'm playing on a DS (phat) with a capture board installed allowing me to record game footage
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A: This is a run to complete the second round of the Elite Four, using the rules set out for the bounty. The idea of the bounty is to have the category mimic the E4R2 run in FRLG, by imposing the rules and requirements in that run.
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Q: Why do you choose Cyndaquil?
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As such, the following rules apply:
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A: Because the Cyndaquil evolution family is the best for the speedrun. Until you catch Raikou, that is.
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You need to beat Elite Four Round 2 (but not Red) after getting all 16 badges in Kanto
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You need to register 60 Pokemon in the Pokédex before entering Round 2
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Q: Why do you keep resetting and changing the time?
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RNG Manips are not allowed
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A: I need to use a specific time in order to use RNG manipulation, so I set the clock in such a way that I can use it.
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Glitches are not allowed
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 The timer counts down to when I need to reset for the correct second.
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You may not catch and battle with the level 50 Magikarp used in manipless runs, nor the Entei or Raikou 
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You may not use the Exp Share
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Q: What is RNG?
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A: Random Number Generator, the thing that determines everything random within the game, such as stats, encounters and pokerus.
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Note that you do not actually need 60 Pokemon to unlock the E4R2 in this game like you do in FR/LG, it is just a rule applied for this run.
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Q: What is RNG Manipulation?
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Q: What does "bounty" mean?
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A: RNG manipulation is used in this speedrun, which involves resetting on a specific second starting from a specific time, and hitting the correct frame for the correct seed after resetting. This allows for manipulating of the wild encounters, Cyndaquils starting stats, Raikous starting stats, Raikous starting position, and the lottery so I win the Master Ball
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A: It means someone (that being Sakharu) set up a bounty to see who could get the best time in this run. The rules are that whoever has the best time by the end of the year gets $500, and second best gets $250.
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Q: What causes the resets?
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Q: What is the best time atm?
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A: I missed initial starting seed. There are 2 ways to check whether I hit the correct seed:
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A: Currently it is my PB, 4:45:31
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1) I check my Trainer ID. The one I am aiming for is 39391. I know if I get this ID, I hit the right starting seed, as that is generated at the same time. This is what I used to do, as it is the first thing you can do to check, but it takes ~3 seconds to check so I tend to instead...
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2) I check the movement of the NPCs in New Bark Town. Because their movement is derived from the RNG, I can tell I hit it based on their movements. If the girl faces Down, then turn Right, Down, and then Left, I got it
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If not I didn't hit the right seed, so I reset. The RNG for the seed advances every frame, so it is a frame perfect trick
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Q: Given you can't use the L50 Magikarp, what is the best Pokemon to use?
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Q: Why is your movement so strange at the start of the run?
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A: There's been quite a few routes people have used so far - the current 2nd best time uses Totodile all the way through. Others have gone with Kenya, or catching a L36 Tentacruel to use all the way through. I also did a variation where I swapped to Lugia after that.
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A: Because you can't get the best possible results off the bat. The movement that I do is designed specifically to manipulate the RNG (from NPCs movement around me, and the like) so that I get my great Cyndaquil, Pokerus off the first trainer battle, and no encounters to Falkner
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My route for now is going Cyndaquil all the way. Going full 2013 and resetting for a good Cynda to use. He's done pretty well so far, and is the route I think I'd have the most fun playing with, so definitely sticking with him for now.
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Q: Why did you just talk to your Cyndaquil?
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A: Because it advances the RNG! This is used at the start of the run to skip over patterns that would have encounters, but also to make the RNG advance by decently significant amounts to accelerate getting Pokerus, otherwise I would have to run around a lot more in the grass, which would be slower. It's also potentially used during Raikou manip if I go for backup Raikou, as it's otherwise unhittable without resetting the room, which is slower than talking.
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Q: What stats does Cynda need?
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A: 12 Sp Att at a minimum. I then ideally want at least 2 out of 3 of: 11 Attack, 12 Speed, and 13 Special Attack. Only 1/3 of these is ok, and I might play out the start to get a better idea of stats and maybe play a bit riskier ready to reset at the start.
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Q: Why don't you check Cyndaquils stats? What are Cyndaquils stats like?
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A: Cyndaquils starting stats are the same every time RNG manipulation is used, and also quite decent using RNG manipulaton, but not perfect. The reason for this is because there are a limited amount of seeds you can RNG manipulate for, as you are manipulating so many things, it's literally a game limitation how good they can be. The Cyndaquils IVs are 4 HP, 23 Att, 21 Def, 28 SP Att, 5 Sp Def, 31 Speed with a Rash nature
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Q: Is bounty just for Soul Silver, or why are you playing it instead of Heart Gold?
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A: You can use either game, but Soul Silver is preferrable, as there is a fast accessible Rare Candy on the way to Lugia, whereas there isn't on the way to Ho-Oh.
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Q: You also manipulate Raikous stats? How is that possible?
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A: You don't specifically know at what seed the RNG is on when releasing Raikou, so it's a bit trickier. 
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What I'm doing instead is looking at the Radio Channels to deduce what the RNG is at that point, and then change the channels a certain number of times to advance it to the value I'm looking for.
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For this route though, there are 2 Raikous pretty close to each other that can both complete the run. So if the RNG has advanced too much that I can't get the first one, I can just get the second one and continue (the first is ever so slightly better for the run)
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A: No, I'm playing on a DS with a capture board installed allowing me to record game footage
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The main Raikou's IVs are: 17 HP, 23 Att, 17 Def, 27 Sp Att, 20 Sp Def, 28 Speed with a Modest Nature
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The backup Raikou's IVs are: 26 HP, 5 Att, 3 Def, 29 Sp Att, 13 Sp Def, 31 Speed with a Modest Nature.
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See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI1-PJ7Sy1w
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Q: And then you manipulate it's position...how?
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A: Well if I hit my target Raikou it always goes to the same spot, so if I make the same movement to down below Ecruteak I can manipulate the Raikou's jumps to go to where I want it to.
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A: Because it's faster to name them one character for text purposes, and the letter 'I' gives a nice spin as if the game was self-narrating
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Q: And then how do you plan on catching it?
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A: The starting seed, when I get my trainer ID, also starts a few other things in the game. One of them is the starting lottery number, and one of the reasons this seed is so desirable is that they line up, so I scoop up a free Master Ball before I catch him
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Q: What is that 0/60 on the screen?
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A: That's how many Pokemon I have.
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Q: So why don't you just manipulate everything in the game?
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A: 1) There are multiple RNGs at play, and not all of them can be controlled the same way. Battle RNG for example, advances just about every frame, including lag frames, making it totally unpredictable. 
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2) Some things simply aren't worth it, as they are limited by the amount of possibilities in the game. For example, having Cyndaquil be a Female would be better to avoid Attract on Miltank, but there are simply 0 seeds that have all the other requirements needed AND get a Female Cyndaquil, making it slower overall.
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A: Just any improvement is good. A 4:45 I think would be a really nice time.
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Q: Do you manipulate Voltorb Flip? How does it work?
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Q: What is the number in brackets in the splits next to the names?
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A: Yes, I do. Voltorb Flip works off the Secondary RNG, not the main one that impacts encounters and IVs and such. The Secondary RNG advances only during the route between Union Cave and Azalea Town, because it is raining, and the rain advances the Secondary RNG.
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A: That's how many Pokemon I had in my PB at that point.
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Once at Voltorb Flip, I take specific patterns on the boards to manipulate future boards. The first thing you need to know about it Level 8. Level 8 is the highest level in Voltorb Flip, and as such where the most coins are. Accessing Level 8 is different to the prior levels, instead of beating the level 1 below, Level 8 is unlocked by having a continuous streak of 5 boards in a row, and all 5 of those boards having at least 8 panels flipped over. So after Level 5, I can jump straight to Level 8. Also note: The streak means you must win, except on the 5th board, so I actually quit out of that level and still get the jump.
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Q: What is with those split icons? What does A and B mean?
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Outside of that, the panels I flip also matter, as some panels do not advance the secondary RNG, where most do. The ones that don't are those that are on either a column or row that has no bombs.
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A: This is a grading system for all of my splits. I'm sure you are familiar with grades, A+ being the best then going down from there. So the idea is, if the split has an A+ next to it, my time there was really good and would be very difficult to beat. If it's a C though for example, it was quite poor, and I should be able to save time there pretty easily.
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Q: Why not Heart Gold?
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This way, everyone watching has more accurate information on where I can save time, and where I should be making up time. Also that all time loss is not equal, as losing time vs an A+ split isn't really that bad, whereas losing time vs a C split is really bad. It'll probably take a while for a lot of people watching to pick up the meaning so I will appreciate everyone who explains how this works (correctly) in chat to new people.