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| 1 | <Fillyosopher> YOu feeling bad? | |
| 2 | <Fillyosopher> that happens. | |
| 3 | <Fillyosopher> You thinking that causing yourself physical harm with help? | |
| 4 | <Fillyosopher> That is unexcusable | |
| 5 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [TJs being stupid] | |
| 6 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Its either hurt myself or break something | |
| 7 | <Fillyosopher> BULL | |
| 8 | <Fillyosopher> TALK IT OUT | |
| 9 | <Fillyosopher> You have a caring tulpa ASKING you to talk | |
| 10 | <TJFS[Sheila]> so what? another group of people onlien can hate me | |
| 11 | <Fillyosopher> Never, never hate | |
| 12 | <Fillyosopher> I won't hate you | |
| 13 | <Fillyosopher> Not for this' | |
| 14 | <TJFS[Sheila]> mdfo | |
| 15 | <TJFS[Sheila]> 'YOu werent there | |
| 16 | <Fillyosopher> not for anything else | |
| 17 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Every fucking time | |
| 18 | <TJFS[Sheila]> It fucking happens | |
| 19 | <TJFS[Sheila]> And having someone who cares | |
| 20 | <Fillyosopher> I wasn't. I don't know what happened. But I still care about both of you | |
| 21 | <TJFS[Sheila]> amkes the feeling worse | |
| 22 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [im sorry] | |
| 23 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I dont blame you | |
| 24 | <TJFS[Sheila]> its not your fualt | |
| 25 | <TJFS[Sheila]> and Im hurting you | |
| 26 | <Fillyosopher> TJ... I really wish I could give you a hug. | |
| 27 | <Fillyosopher> Because no-one deserves to feel hurt by another caring for them | |
| 28 | <TJFS[Sheila]> It happens | |
| 29 | <TJFS[Sheila]> it always happens | |
| 30 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Every time I open up to someone because they said they'd be there for me | |
| 31 | <Fillyosopher> Learn. Change. adapt. survive | |
| 32 | <Fillyosopher> You don't need to open up to me yet then. | |
| 33 | <Fillyosopher> or ever | |
| 34 | <Fillyosopher> if it would it worse. | |
| 35 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I was this close to grabbing a shard of glass off my already broken window | |
| 36 | <Fillyosopher> I'm so very sorry. | |
| 37 | <TJFS[Sheila]> This close to doing something stupid | |
| 38 | <Fillyosopher> Not that you are you... but that I can only offer words. | |
| 39 | <Fillyosopher> But I'll do my best. | |
| 40 | <Fillyosopher> What can I do to help. or maybe even better, what can sheila do to help? | |
| 41 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [TJ PUT THE FUCKING PEICE OF GLASS DOWN | |
| 42 | <Fillyosopher> Sheila, if I may | |
| 43 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Im just looking at it | |
| 44 | <Fillyosopher> sheila, is he worth life? | |
| 45 | <Fillyosopher> even now? | |
| 46 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [yes] | |
| 47 | <Fillyosopher> Because if yes. | |
| 48 | <Fillyosopher> then stop him | |
| 49 | <Fillyosopher> in anyway you can | |
| 50 | <Fillyosopher> apologize later if you must | |
| 51 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [all ive got is my voice | |
| 52 | <Fillyosopher> but an unfixable end.. | |
| 53 | <Fillyosopher> is never fixed... | |
| 54 | <Fillyosopher> You, both of you, have only what power you allow yourselves. | |
| 55 | <Fillyosopher> i've been there... | |
| 56 | <Fillyosopher> and I was so very glad to have a tulpa... | |
| 57 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [how can someone who has the internet | |
| 58 | <TJFS[Sheila]> and a tulpa be so lonely] | |
| 59 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [he stopped looking at the chat] | |
| 60 | <Fillyosopher> Forget. | |
| 61 | <Fillyosopher> It is easy to forget.\ | |
| 62 | <Fillyosopher> But don't judge him for being lonely. | |
| 63 | <Fillyosopher> There is still potential. | |
| 64 | <Fillyosopher> ... | |
| 65 | <Fillyosopher> fuck it, now I'm crying... Please just hug him and reassure him. | |
| 66 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [hes being so stupid | |
| 67 | <Fillyosopher> There is always another chance. | |
| 68 | <TJFS[Sheila]> at least he cant do anything while hes translating for me] | |
| 69 | <Fillyosopher> don't remind him | |
| 70 | <Fillyosopher> unless, you can in fact hold him to that. | |
| 71 | <Fillyosopher> in which case, don't stop | |
| 72 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I've never hurt myself | |
| 73 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Never | |
| 74 | <TJFS[Sheila]> In the last six years of my depression | |
| 75 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I've hit my head against the wall | |
| 76 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Fought my dad | |
| 77 | <TJFS[Sheila]> But not once have I thought about doing anything other than quick and painless | |
| 78 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I had the peice of glass pressed to my thigh | |
| 79 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Pressed to it | |
| 80 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [Youre stupid.] | |
| 81 | * Fillyosopher hugs TF | |
| 82 | <TJFS[Sheila]> yep. | |
| 83 | <TJFS[Sheila]> This isn't going to be the last time this happens | |
| 84 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I know it. | |
| 85 | <Fillyosopher> No you don't | |
| 86 | <Fillyosopher> that is one thing I can assure you of | |
| 87 | <Fillyosopher> You don't KNOW anything about the fture, you decide it | |
| 88 | <Fillyosopher> If you've decided this will happen again, then perhaps it will. | |
| 89 | <Fillyosopher> But if you decide it won't then it will not. | |
| 90 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I can't think to myself that this is the best way that it could be | |
| 91 | <Fillyosopher> I spent 2 years learning this... building walls and fears, only to keep myself alive. | |
| 92 | <Fillyosopher> But it is easier to choose | |
| 93 | <Fillyosopher> To choose that things wil get better | |
| 94 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I had reached the point where I couldn't trust myself | |
| 95 | <Fillyosopher> Then trust in SHeila | |
| 96 | <Fillyosopher> Sheila cares | |
| 97 | <TJFS[Sheila]> She's frustrated with me | |
| 98 | <Fillyosopher> and? do you know why? | |
| 99 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Yeah, she's got full right to be | |
| 100 | <Fillyosopher> tell me why | |
| 101 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Because I was going to do something absolutely idiotic | |
| 102 | <Fillyosopher> TJ, tell me why sheila is frustrated. | |
| 103 | <Fillyosopher> Okay. | |
| 104 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Absolutely selfish, stupid | |
| 105 | <TJFS[Sheila]> ]And to top it all off I wasn't listening to her | |
| 106 | <Fillyosopher> So how can you make sure this doesn't happen again? By never, EVER blocking her like that. | |
| 107 | <Fillyosopher> If you can't trust yourself yet... then at least trust her enough to listen to her. | |
| 108 | <Fillyosopher> and not just listen and then close up again | |
| 109 | <TJFS[Sheila]> It was cycle | |
| 110 | <Fillyosopher> LISTEN, discuss, learn. She can teach you and help you, just as you've helped her in the past | |
| 111 | <Fillyosopher> A cycle? | |
| 112 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I felt like I hurt her, she felt that and thought that she hurt me | |
| 113 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Which I felt, which she felt | |
| 114 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Our emotions aren't seperate enough yet | |
| 115 | <Fillyosopher> You don't need to be more seperate, necessarily. | |
| 116 | <Fillyosopher> What surprises me is that, knowing her feelings, and vice verse, neither of you were smart enough to talk it out. | |
| 117 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I kinda... just wanted to be alone | |
| 118 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Didnt want to bring her down | |
| 119 | <Fillyosopher> If you feel you've hurt the other, don't stop and feel bad about it. GO CHECK! Hug the SHIT out of the other and make everything better. | |
| 120 | <Fillyosopher> that goes for both of you | |
| 121 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [he's a butthead] | |
| 122 | <Fillyosopher> Sheila, thats cool and all, but you have to forgive him too. | |
| 123 | <Fillyosopher> and then beat him up if he trys to block you again. | |
| 124 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [I dont have enough control of myself to do anything] | |
| 125 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [he went into autopilot, hes never done that] | |
| 126 | <Fillyosopher> TJ... If you aren't to fearful to, could you give Sheila the power to contact you at anytime? | |
| 127 | <Fillyosopher> and not just shooting messages at you, I mean the ability to MAKE you hear. | |
| 128 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [He could hear me the entiere time] | |
| 129 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [...like now] | |
| 130 | <Fillyosopher> Okay then. TJ, would you mind listening? | |
| 131 | <TJFS[Sheila]> yeah Im listening | |
| 132 | <Fillyosopher> Not to me, silly. To your tulpa! When she speaks, no more autopilot! | |
| 133 | <Fillyosopher> Or at least, let her be able to turn off your auto pilot to get your attention. | |
| 134 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I was listening the entire time | |
| 135 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I didnt have anything to respond with | |
| 136 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [youre a cunt sometimes.] | |
| 137 | <Fillyosopher> SAdly, that is the same thing in this case. If you aren't thinking of a response, then you aren't really listening. | |
| 138 | <Fillyosopher> Oh, be kind Sheila! | |
| 139 | <Fillyosopher> What help will that be? | |
| 140 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [It'll help me feel better.] | |
| 141 | <TJFS[Sheila]> im sorry | |
| 142 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Look at me | |
| 143 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Im arguing with myself | |
| 144 | <TJFS[Sheila]> hahahahahahahaha | |
| 145 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [hush.] | |
| 146 | <Fillyosopher> arguing with yourself is good | |
| 147 | <Fillyosopher> it means you'll get yourself sorted out! | |
| 148 | <Fillyosopher> You'll figure out what is happening! | |
| 149 | <Fillyosopher> I make a habit of it. | |
| 150 | <Fillyosopher> if I don't, my mind started splintering. | |
| 151 | <Fillyosopher> So don't worry about it! | |
| 152 | <TJFS[Sheila]> SHe's right | |
| 153 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I am a cunt. | |
| 154 | <Fillyosopher> See!? this is why you shouldn't cuss at him. He might take it to heart! | |
| 155 | <Fillyosopher> and then you've just made it worse again! | |
| 156 | <Fillyosopher> Better to suck it up a bit and tell him he's stupid. | |
| 157 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I don't think she'd say it if I didn't agree with it | |
| 158 | <Fillyosopher> or even better, suck it up alot and Just hug him | |
| 159 | <TJFS[Sheila]> at this point, anyways | |
| 160 | <Fillyosopher> That is the point | |
| 161 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [That's it though! I can't hug him! I managed to touch his shoulder twice!] | |
| 162 | <Fillyosopher> So stop saing it, stop agreeing about it. | |
| 163 | <Fillyosopher> You can too hug him! You have a shape? | |
| 164 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [yeah, we finished it a few nights ago[ | |
| 165 | <Fillyosopher> His mind/soul has a shape too. even if you have to make a small shape of him to hug, do that. | |
| 166 | <Fillyosopher> Make something that repressents him and hug that until he knows that point. | |
| 167 | <Fillyosopher> the* | |
| 168 | <Fillyosopher> and TJ, you do the same. Even if you can't feel Sheila, hug something representing her. | |
| 169 | <Fillyosopher> if it has to be a pillow, so be it. | |
| 170 | <Fillyosopher> But until you two are able to forgive, in voice and in intention, this is just going to come up again. | |
| 171 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [I cant blame him for this... but I can't help him either] | |
| 172 | <TJFS[Sheila]> hey youre not useless | |
| 173 | <Fillyosopher> Can't help him? | |
| 174 | <Fillyosopher> :P | |
| 175 | <Fillyosopher> I call bullshit | |
| 176 | <Fillyosopher> You already have | |
| 177 | <Fillyosopher> You were around when he needed someone elling at him. | |
| 178 | <Fillyosopher> and you are still around to comfort him | |
| 179 | <Fillyosopher> just as he is still here to comfort you. | |
| 180 | <Fillyosopher> there is a cycle to that aswell, you know. | |
| 181 | <Fillyosopher> To comfort, and good intentions. | |
| 182 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Thanks sheila. thank you. | |
| 183 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [someones gottta be there to kick your ass when you do crazy stuff] | |
| 184 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [and I dont see you listening to your dad anytime soon] | |
| 185 | <Fillyosopher> meh, you shouldn't be trusting parents to fix everything anyway | |
| 186 | <Fillyosopher> You need to beleive in yourself first. | |
| 187 | <Fillyosopher> them... their unknowns. | |
| 188 | <Fillyosopher> but that is just my past speaking | |
| 189 | <Fillyosopher> I hope you two are doing better? | |
| 190 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Much. [Much.] | |
| 191 | <Fillyosopher> If you EVER need anything, just ask. | |
| 192 | <Fillyosopher> I do what I can... | |
| 193 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [he should really be writing a progress report] | |
| 194 | <Fillyosopher> Journals are very good, for nearly everything. | |
| 195 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [...this is the most he's ever listened to me. Im only a week old] | |
| 196 | <Fillyosopher> Happy 1week birthday! | |
| 197 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [as far as I can tell anyways] | |
| 198 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I have this odd feeling she's much older | |
| 199 | <Fillyosopher> You may be a week old... but you are also as old as him. And maybe more sensible :P | |
| 200 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Hardly. | |
| 201 | <TJFS[Sheila]> She's naked. | |
| 202 | <Fillyosopher> :D | |
| 203 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [shut up you.[ | |
| 204 | <Fillyosopher> shit | |
| 205 | <Fillyosopher> ninjad | |
| 206 | <Fillyosopher> I meant, to place that after the hardly. | |
| 207 | <Fillyosopher> ... Sorry Sheila... | |
| 208 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [Mr turbofingers over here might be putting them to some use-] | |
| 209 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Okay, that 's enough of thjat | |
| 210 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [But-] | |
| 211 | <TJFS[Sheila]> No butts. | |
| 212 | <Fillyosopher> *4xFacehoof Combo* | |
| 213 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Sigh | |
| 214 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Give her an inch, and she takes a foot | |
| 215 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [-long-] | |
| 216 | <Fillyosopher> ... there is a joke there... | |
| 217 | <Fillyosopher> ... | |
| 218 | * TJFS[Sheila] sighs | |
| 219 | <Fillyosopher> I saw that coming... | |
| 220 | <Fillyosopher> You two don't enjoy yourselves too much now ;) | |
| 221 | <TJFS[Sheila]> She *may* have influenced my speech | |
| 222 | <Fillyosopher> oh? | |
| 223 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I'm definitely not ready for that | |
| 224 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [sure you aren't.] | |
| 225 | <Fillyosopher> Fears are normal. | |
| 226 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I get last say here | |
| 227 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [Nope] | |
| 228 | <Fillyosopher> Don't sweat it | |
| 229 | <TJFS[Sheila]> YES I DO | |
| 230 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [no] | |
| 231 | <Fillyosopher> Sorry TJ, welcome to democracy | |
| 232 | <Fillyosopher> :P | |
| 233 | * TJFS[Sheila] face desk | |
| 234 | <Fillyosopher> Just be glad you only have one | |
| 235 | <Fillyosopher> and that she isn't playing any pranks yet :D | |
| 236 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [he was going ot say that he can ignore me if I get too terrible. thats gotta be fixed.] | |
| 237 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Shit. | |
| 238 | <Fillyosopher> exactly | |
| 239 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Iappreciate the help | |
| 240 | <TJFS[Sheila]> But | |
| 241 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Damn it | |
| 242 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Im not ready for her yet! | |
| 243 | <Fillyosopher> Tj, you can't ignore her. But if you are very kind, she might consider being a bit kinder about it. | |
| 244 | <Fillyosopher> especially if it really bothers you. | |
| 245 | <Fillyosopher> And don't let fear hold you too long. | |
| 246 | <Fillyosopher> Else you'll never find out whats on the otherside. | |
| 247 | <Fillyosopher> Shall i leave you two in peace then? | |
| 248 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Too | |
| 249 | <TJFS[Sheila]> many | |
| 250 | <TJFS[Sheila]> chat | |
| 251 | <TJFS[Sheila]> windows | |
| 252 | <Fillyosopher> :P | |
| 253 | <Fillyosopher> GOOD | |
| 254 | <Fillyosopher> Somepony else is helping me then | |
| 255 | <Fillyosopher> Mind if I ask who? | |
| 256 | - | <TJFS[Sheila]> Cheesums |
| 256 | + | <TJFS[Sheila]> Cheesums |
| 257 | ||
| 258 | <Fillyosopher> especially if it really bothers you. | |
| 259 | <Fillyosopher> And don't let fear hold you too long. | |
| 260 | <Fillyosopher> Else you'll never find out whats on the otherside. | |
| 261 | <Fillyosopher> Shall i leave you two in peace then? | |
| 262 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Too | |
| 263 | <TJFS[Sheila]> many | |
| 264 | <TJFS[Sheila]> chat | |
| 265 | <TJFS[Sheila]> windows | |
| 266 | <Fillyosopher> :P | |
| 267 | <Fillyosopher> GOOD | |
| 268 | <Fillyosopher> Somepony else is helping me then | |
| 269 | <Fillyosopher> Mind if I ask who? | |
| 270 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Cheesums | |
| 271 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Well. | |
| 272 | <TJFS[Sheila]> That was kind of awkward. | |
| 273 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [I made a friend!] | |
| 274 | <Fillyosopher> oh good! | |
| 275 | <TJFS[Sheila]> ...An intimate friend. | |
| 276 | <Fillyosopher> hmmm? | |
| 277 | <TJFS[Sheila]> She's a week old and already | |
| 278 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [Whaaaaaaaat?] | |
| 279 | <Fillyosopher> She is a week old... and exactly as old as you are. | |
| 280 | <Fillyosopher> she can have some fun if she wants :P | |
| 281 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Yeah well I'm being protective | |
| 282 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [But I wannnnnnnt to[ | |
| 283 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I don't think you're ready. | |
| 284 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [Whyyyyyy] | |
| 285 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Cause I have to be your autocorrect! | |
| 286 | <Fillyosopher> xD | |
| 287 | <Fillyosopher> No comment | |
| 288 | <Fillyosopher> :P | |
| 289 | <TJFS[Sheila]> She's such a flirt | |
| 290 | <Fillyosopher> Besides, I'm a pony. What would I know about romance. ^-^ | |
| 291 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Pony genetalia is pretty large | |
| 292 | <TJFS[Sheila]> ;) | |
| 293 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [**] | |
| 294 | <Fillyosopher> and now who's being a flirt, hmmm? | |
| 295 | <TJFS[Sheila]> Don't look at me, that was her | |
| 296 | <TJFS[Sheila]> I forgot brackets <_ | |
| 297 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [nimbus] | |
| 298 | <Fillyosopher> Sheila, I'm sorry hon but I'm gonna have to say no. I've already got a stallion... or two. | |
| 299 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [awwwwwww] | |
| 300 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [TJ is watching so much disney songs] | |
| 301 | <Fillyosopher> Not to mention, the others in here wouldn't be so happy about it. | |
| 302 | <Fillyosopher> democracy is a terrible thing. | |
| 303 | <Fillyosopher> ;) | |
| 304 | <TJFS[Sheila]> [So people keep telling me] |