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| 1 | (NOTE: Scroll down or CTRL + F "February 1, 2017" to get to CriscoWild's first post. I've included an earlier part of the chatlog I guess for context.) | |
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| 3 | January 30, 2017 | |
| 4 | [10:19 PM] Skull64🌐: who's up for a casual 100% tournament not hosted by anybody | |
| 5 | [10:31 PM] Zaldbathar: 100% Prime 1? | |
| 6 | [10:31 PM] Skull64🌐: yes prime 1 | |
| 7 | [10:32 PM] Zaldbathar: When would it be starting? day? week? month? | |
| 8 | [10:32 PM] Zaldbathar: if i got a couple months i may be able to do it. | |
| 9 | January 31, 2017 | |
| 10 | [4:36 AM] edzan: I'd like a 100% tourney | |
| 11 | [4:51 AM] JustinDM: I'd join but I probably wouldn't take it as seriously as the any% tournament | |
| 12 | [4:51 AM] Zaldbathar: low b press tournament | |
| 13 | [4:52 AM] Zaldbathar: (jk) | |
| 14 | [4:52 AM] edzan: Well it is a "Casual" tournament as skull put it | |
| 15 | [4:52 AM] JustinDM: I say that, but I'm competitive, so I'll probably end up taking it seriously anyways lol | |
| 16 | [4:52 AM] edzan: lol | |
| 17 | [4:53 AM] edzan: How many people even know 100% that are still active though | |
| 18 | [4:53 AM] JustinDM: 0.5 | |
| 19 | [4:53 AM] edzan: Dang, I count as half a person :jrpMagoo: | |
| 20 | [4:53 AM] JustinDM: rip me | |
| 21 | [4:53 AM] edzan: lol | |
| 22 | [4:54 AM] JustinDM: Does Echoes Wii count as active | |
| 23 | [4:54 AM] edzan: Uhm | |
| 24 | [4:54 AM] edzan: I mean it's not a horrible game | |
| 25 | [4:57 AM] JustinDM: Wrong | |
| 26 | [4:57 AM] JustinDM: But I'll count it as active | |
| 27 | [4:58 AM] JustinDM: I know 7 off the top of my head | |
| 28 | [4:58 AM] JustinDM: Oops 8 including me | |
| 29 | [4:59 AM] edzan: Dang, need more people running 100% | |
| 30 | [4:59 AM] jack879: It'd be cool if it were a FFA tournament style setup rather than VS | |
| 31 | [5:00 AM] edzan: FFA? | |
| 32 | [5:00 AM] jack879: But the outcome is obvious and nobody runs it so nah | |
| 33 | [5:00 AM] JustinDM: Free for all | |
| 34 | [5:00 AM] jack879: Free for all. Everybody races at once, top half continues | |
| 35 | [5:00 AM] edzan: Oh, interesring idea | |
| 36 | [5:00 AM] jack879: Vs. Is the typical match shit that takes years to finish(edited) | |
| 37 | [5:00 AM] JustinDM: Double elimination bracket lol | |
| 38 | [5:00 AM] jack879: Literally kms at double elim | |
| 39 | [5:01 AM] edzan: Double elims take decades | |
| 40 | [5:01 AM] JustinDM: Literally | |
| 41 | [5:01 AM] JustinDM: I was 8 when we started the any% tourney | |
| 42 | [5:01 AM] JustinDM: Now I'm 18 | |
| 43 | [5:01 AM] jack879: B y t h e l e t t e r | |
| 44 | [5:02 AM] edzan: Whens Corruption 100% tournament double elimination(edited) | |
| 45 | [5:02 AM] JustinDM: When you get 1:11 100% | |
| 46 | [5:03 AM] edzan: Dang, that tournament would take a century | |
| 47 | [5:03 AM] JustinDM: To start | |
| 48 | [5:03 AM] edzan: Better get moving | |
| 49 | [5:04 AM] jack879: Corruption doesn't exist | |
| 50 | [5:04 AM] JustinDM: I beg to differ | |
| 51 | [5:04 AM] edzan: Rip corruption | |
| 52 | [5:04 AM] JustinDM: Look at the state of the country | |
| 53 | [5:07 AM] jack879: All I see are smiles and gumdrop trees | |
| 54 | [5:43 AM] icefire: FFA sounds fun. | |
| 55 | [5:43 AM] icefire: Basically just a big community gathering | |
| 56 | [5:57 AM] jack879: I suggested this to some of the pioneer peeps. It would be 1 day with a massive fkn race, top half continues. Next weekend or date planned, those race, top half continues, repeat until end. It's a bit harder to guarantee everybody races but it's not as big of a burnout and no need for lame ass shit boring commentary every ficking match | |
| 57 | [6:12 AM] JustinDM: Simple question | |
| 58 | [6:12 AM] JustinDM: What if there is an odd number of entrants | |
| 59 | [6:13 AM] Draconif: then that concludes there is not an even number of entrants | |
| 60 | [6:16 AM] JustinDM: Dammit | |
| 61 | [6:17 AM] JustinDM: I mean how do we decide who moves up | |
| 62 | [6:20 AM] jack879: Tiebreaker or take the greater number of the two | |
| 63 | [6:20 AM] jack879: Take 6 rather than 5 from 11 | |
| 64 | [6:21 AM] jack879: 6 would become 3 which is a three way finale or 5 which would be yet another 2 or 3 scenario in which case you could make a grand final between 2 or a three way for bronze silver gold | |
| 65 | [6:21 AM] jack879: I prefer taking the greater number of the two myself. | |
| 66 | [6:24 AM] jack879: Same amount of rounds, more players | |
| 67 | [6:28 AM] JustinDM: Yea taking the greater number seems way more fair anyways | |
| 68 | [7:45 AM] jack879: I like bronze silver gold more than winner and loser anyways | |
| 69 | [8:50 AM] Skull64🌐: when I said causel I meant nobody would need to restream it, meaning no 3rd party commentary | |
| 70 | [8:50 AM] Skull64🌐: I think it would be hard to get everyone who wants to participate to agree on a time that works for everyone | |
| 71 | [8:52 AM] Skull64🌐: so yes my original idea was to do another double elim | |
| 72 | [8:58 AM] jack879: you could use bimonthly or monthly races for it | |
| 73 | [9:01 AM] Skull64🌐: or we could just do a one-off big race | |
| 74 | [9:02 AM] Skull64🌐: if we do that i don't see the point in dis-inviting half the people for the next one | |
| 75 | [9:06 AM] jack879: anything but a tournament would be smart | |
| 76 | [9:06 AM] jack879: or a single elim tournament | |
| 77 | [9:06 AM] jack879: you literally killed prime last summer | |
| 78 | [9:06 AM] JustinDM: You broke its legs and it's just managing to recover | |
| 79 | [9:10 AM] jack879: and for 100% you'd get like maybe 10 people | |
| 80 | [9:15 AM] Skull64🌐: i literally killed metroid prime | |
| 81 | [9:17 AM] edzan: :jrpOhMyMagoo: | |
| 82 | [9:46 AM] e a s t: it grew a shitton and then imploded | |
| 83 | [9:47 AM] e a s t: lets not forget the first half | |
| 84 | [11:30 AM] icefire: Why don't we just have a racenight for hundo | |
| 85 | [2:43 PM] Skull64🌐: I think that's the best idea | |
| 86 | [2:43 PM] Skull64🌐: need to pick a date | |
| 87 | February 1, 2017 | |
| 88 | [12:21 PM] CriscoWild: When's the trilogy race? Gotta get a board for Prime/Echoes/Corruption and put some times up. | |
| 89 | [12:25 PM] Zaldbathar: Trilogy Race? Are you memeing or is that actually something thats going to happen | |
| 90 | [12:26 PM] JustinDM: One can only hope it doesn't happen in this lifetime | |
| 91 | [12:29 PM] CriscoWild: Is no one here good at all three games? | |
| 92 | [12:29 PM] CriscoWild: IDK why you'd not want to see that. Trifectas are great. | |
| 93 | [12:30 PM] e a s t: Claris is probably the best at all the games on average | |
| 94 | [12:30 PM] e a s t: i dont think she would want to race trilogy | |
| 95 | [12:31 PM] Zaldbathar: I dont think its that, but who wants to run all 3 versions with motion controls xD | |
| 96 | [12:31 PM] Zaldbathar: That sounds, if nothing else, really tireing on the arm | |
| 97 | [12:32 PM] icefire: It's already been done before | |
| 98 | [12:32 PM] icefire: Way back | |
| 99 | [12:32 PM] CriscoWild: How long do you expect a trilogy run would take? I'm not familiar with the average run times of the latter two games. | |
| 100 | [12:32 PM] edzan: I know all 3 Wii games | |
| 101 | [12:32 PM] icefire: Claris took like 8 hours iirc? | |
| 102 | [12:32 PM] edzan: err I've ran Prime 1, "Know" 2 and "know" 3 | |
| 103 | [12:32 PM] icefire: It was any% iirc | |
| 104 | [12:38 PM] CriscoWild: Just takes one person to get the ball rolling. One person will do a run, then we'll make a board for it, the run will go up there, someone will want to beat it. | |
| 105 | [12:38 PM] kirbymastah: people dont really care about trilogy version | |
| 106 | [12:38 PM] kirbymastah: youd probably get more interest in running the 3 original versions togetber | |
| 107 | [12:38 PM] kirbymastah: but even that would be hard to get interest for | |
| 108 | [12:39 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: i think thats what was asked kirby | |
| 109 | [12:40 PM] Claris: I would race original versions | |
| 110 | [12:40 PM] Claris: Fuck Trilogy | |
| 111 | [12:40 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: but mah echoes wii :> | |
| 112 | [12:40 PM] Claris: It's not yours I took your record | |
| 113 | [12:41 PM] CriscoWild: You guys can run whatever version of the games you want. Three games is three games either way. | |
| 114 | [12:41 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: standalones would be more fun | |
| 115 | [12:41 PM] E-Dragon: but running triology would mean running corruption | |
| 116 | [12:41 PM] kirbymastah: ...you realize trilogy and nontrilogy versions are reallt different, right? | |
| 117 | [12:42 PM] kirbymastah: i dont see much point in making a leaderboards either for thjs | |
| 118 | [12:42 PM] kirbymastah: race would be fun though | |
| 119 | [12:42 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: when is our 300% race? :> | |
| 120 | [12:42 PM] kirbymastah: someday after i learn the corruption route | |
| 121 | [12:43 PM] kirbymastah: (or just do it without me lol) | |
| 122 | [12:43 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: no | |
| 123 | [12:43 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: imagine if optimal prime 3 100% route had to do piston hall sw | |
| 124 | [12:43 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: shudders | |
| 125 | [12:43 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: i never got that sw once | |
| 126 | [12:43 PM] Zaldbathar: Im so glad idk what that means lol cuz it sounds awful | |
| 127 | [12:44 PM] kirbymastah: piston hall isnt bad with axons setup | |
| 128 | [12:44 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: @kirbymastah has done it | |
| 129 | [12:44 PM] kirbymastah: though its far from 100% reliable | |
| 130 | [12:44 PM] Zaldbathar: Actually can anyone link me a good either TAS or RTA run of corruption | |
| 131 | [12:44 PM] kirbymastah: usually took me ~3 tries on average? | |
| 132 | [12:44 PM] kirbymastah: nobody had done a fullgame tas | |
| 133 | [12:44 PM] Zaldbathar: Ive never even played or seen gameplay of the game, beyond the tutorial area at the start | |
| 134 | [12:44 PM] kirbymastah: rta run, go on speedrun.com | |
| 135 | [12:44 PM] Claris: Go watch Aruki's run of Corruption | |
| 136 | [12:45 PM] kirbymastah: you probably should just play the game yourself, its worth playing despite the negativity in the discord | |
| 137 | [12:45 PM] kirbymastah: also yeah arukis sda segmented run is really good | |
| 138 | [12:45 PM] CriscoWild: There's totally a point in making a trilogy board. | |
| 139 | [12:45 PM] Zaldbathar: I dont own it atm, but ill probably play it some day | |
| 140 | [12:45 PM] CriscoWild: When you have a trilogy, you do a trifecta. That's how it works. | |
| 141 | [12:45 PM] CriscoWild: Can't have a trilogy without a trifecta board. | |
| 142 | [12:45 PM] kirbymastah: nobodys doing trilogy seriously | |
| 143 | [12:45 PM] kirbymastah: if more than 1-2 people do a trifecta, sure | |
| 144 | [12:46 PM] Zaldbathar: I wanna get a look at it tho, after prime and echoes the idea of corruption having stacking beams and perma OP phazon gun of death put a sour taste in my mouth concerning the game | |
| 145 | [12:46 PM] kirbymastah: but nobody is really interested in actuallt doing runs outside of an occasional race | |
| 146 | [12:46 PM] CriscoWild: You don't have to do it seriously. Just do it. | |
| 147 | [12:46 PM] CriscoWild: It's a game. It's for fun. Have fun with it lol. | |
| 148 | [12:46 PM] Zaldbathar: How intensive is precise use of motion controll aiming in the speedrun? | |
| 149 | [12:46 PM] kirbymastah: races are for fun | |
| 150 | [12:46 PM] CriscoWild: If none of you want to do it, I'll do it. | |
| 151 | [12:46 PM] Zaldbathar: I think like me, most people assume its very high and dont wanna try for that alone xD | |
| 152 | [12:46 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: @Zaldbathar http://www.metroid2002.com/corruption/secret_worlds_piston_hall.mp4 | |
| 153 | [12:46 PM] kirbymastah: leaderboards imply competition and people taking it seriously | |
| 154 | [12:47 PM] kirbymastah: which nobody will | |
| 155 | [12:47 PM] kirbymastah: at the momebt | |
| 156 | [12:47 PM] CriscoWild: It takes one to get the ball rolling. If that one has to be me, and I don't even play the games, so be it. | |
| 157 | [12:47 PM] Zaldbathar: @Deleted User 9b8978c6 i dont know what i just watched but i feel violated | |
| 158 | [12:47 PM] E-Dragon: I don't like lbs like that same with 602 stars etc. | |
| 159 | [12:47 PM] kirbymastah: im not sure why youre so persistant about this, considering ive barely seen you around | |
| 160 | [12:47 PM] Zaldbathar: Did like.. Samus get crunched into the aether? | |
| 161 | [12:47 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: thats the sw i was talking about | |
| 162 | [12:47 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: idk the details | |
| 163 | [12:47 PM] Zaldbathar: thats weird AF | |
| 164 | [12:47 PM] E-Dragon: I don't really see a point in making a leaderboard for that | |
| 165 | [12:48 PM] CriscoWild: I can't have opinions about something if you don't know who I am? | |
| 166 | [12:48 PM] CriscoWild: Damn. | |
| 167 | [12:48 PM] Zaldbathar: Your sure thats not a video of echoes? | |
| 168 | [12:48 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: nope lol | |
| 169 | [12:48 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: thats prime 3 :stuck_out_tongue: | |
| 170 | [12:48 PM] Zaldbathar: @CriscoWild Yeah thats exactly how it is :fggExistence: | |
| 171 | [12:48 PM] Zaldbathar: Color name or dont matter | |
| 172 | [12:48 PM] kirbymastah: i didnt say you cant have opinions but its pretty clear youre not familiar with how much actual interest there is in the series leaderboards | |
| 173 | [12:48 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: ahem @Zaldbathar | |
| 174 | [12:48 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: :wink: | |
| 175 | [12:48 PM] Zaldbathar: lol | |
| 176 | [12:49 PM] CriscoWild: Like I said, if you guys don't want to do it, I can. | |
| 177 | [12:49 PM] kirbymastah: that being said, by all means do your own trifectas, but there isnt much point in a leaderboards unless more than a few do it | |
| 178 | [12:49 PM] kirbymastah: and somewhat seriously | |
| 179 | [12:49 PM] CriscoWild: People will be more interested when they see a 20 hour time for all 3 games and get ashamed that that's the #1 time. | |
| 180 | [12:49 PM] Zaldbathar: Its more of a "Why is there a category with only 1 time on the leaderboards" sort of deal | |
| 181 | [12:49 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: Really it comes down to, people want to seriously focus on each specific game | |
| 182 | [12:49 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: all three together isnt as important | |
| 183 | [12:49 PM] kirbymastah: or not because taking all 3 games together seriouslt is a huge time investment | |
| 184 | [12:50 PM] kirbymastah: ^ what dcr said | |
| 185 | [12:50 PM] Zaldbathar: Idk how valid that is Crisco | |
| 186 | [12:50 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: cause you could run any 3 games | |
| 187 | [12:50 PM] Zaldbathar: Most people dont jump into a game going "Im for sure WR in this some day" | |
| 188 | [12:50 PM] Zaldbathar: id assume you reach having that goal as you improve | |
| 189 | [12:50 PM] E-Dragon: only idiots do that | |
| 190 | [12:50 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: optimzing a single game is significant | |
| 191 | [12:50 PM] Zaldbathar: ^ | |
| 192 | [12:50 PM] CriscoWild: Is this one of those communities that is hyper-resistant to anything changing at all? | |
| 193 | [12:51 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: optimizing more than one game put together isnt necessary | |
| 194 | [12:51 PM] CriscoWild: 'Cause I've seen that in other communities and people get super defensive if anyone tries to suggest anything new. | |
| 195 | [12:51 PM] kirbymastah: man its great when people go like | |
| 196 | [12:51 PM] CriscoWild: Not very fun. | |
| 197 | [12:51 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: no crisco | |
| 198 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: @CriscoWild im new enough to objectivly answer that question with (Actually yeah it sort of is that way? Unless enough people ask for it) | |
| 199 | [12:51 PM] kirbymastah: "the community sucks and im not going to listen to what others say cuz im right" | |
| 200 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: But thats cuz like | |
| 201 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: plenty of people ask for something once | |
| 202 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: then abandon it | |
| 203 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: and waste the communitys time | |
| 204 | [12:51 PM] Zaldbathar: If they did that for everyone theyd be wasting alot of time | |
| 205 | [12:52 PM] Zaldbathar: You hafta not look at it like your the only person here | |
| 206 | [12:52 PM] kirbymastah: from my point of view, there isnt any real point in a leaderboard with half assed times | |
| 207 | [12:52 PM] Zaldbathar: lol | |
| 208 | [12:52 PM] kirbymastah: and currently, nobodys at the level to run all 3 seriously(edited) | |
| 209 | [12:52 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: or combined times from multiple games in a row | |
| 210 | [12:52 PM] Zaldbathar: brb tho i gotta run to the store :fggExistence: | |
| 211 | [12:52 PM] Claris: I mean it's true | |
| 212 | [12:52 PM] CriscoWild: I don't see how you could call anyone half-assed if they commit to doing three games in one run. | |
| 213 | [12:52 PM] CriscoWild: That's rude. | |
| 214 | [12:52 PM] Claris: This community hates change | |
| 215 | [12:52 PM] CriscoWild: That's more of a commitment than most here would make. | |
| 216 | [12:53 PM] Claris: "Ghetto jump" | |
| 217 | [12:53 PM] e a s t: lmao | |
| 218 | [12:53 PM] Zaldbathar: Wow | |
| 219 | [12:53 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: ^^ | |
| 220 | [12:53 PM] kirbymastah: easy for you to say when you havent ran the games at a top level afaik | |
| 221 | [12:53 PM] Zaldbathar: comes in out of nowhere, rude AF | |
| 222 | [12:53 PM] kirbymastah: also lol claris | |
| 223 | [12:53 PM] Zaldbathar: :BadCat: | |
| 224 | [12:53 PM] edzan: "Ghetto Jump" is more of why change it it's been called that forever | |
| 225 | [12:53 PM] Zaldbathar: why you gotta be so rood | |
| 226 | [12:53 PM] e a s t: time it takes to complete a run < time it takes to learn how to finish a run quickly | |
| 227 | [12:53 PM] kirbymastah: what i mean by not half ass is actually doing and optimizing all three together(edited) | |
| 228 | [12:53 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: again, it comes down to optimizing each game as its own thing | |
| 229 | [12:53 PM] CriscoWild: I saw Zoast say once that if you didn't have a good time in a game, your opinion was less valid. Some people here are of the same opinion, I guess. Kind of sad to see things be like that. Not a lot of respect here. | |
| 230 | [12:54 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: trying to optimize running all games together is kinda pointless | |
| 231 | [12:54 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: and more effort | |
| 232 | [12:54 PM] CriscoWild: My bad that I'm not good enough at Metroid Prime to have a valid opinion about anything. | |
| 233 | [12:54 PM] kirbymastah: man here we fo | |
| 234 | [12:54 PM] e a s t: ill give this 1 minute before he starts making Magoo pyramids | |
| 235 | [12:54 PM] edzan: Well having a good time sometimes correlates to knowing stuff about the game @CriscoWild | |
| 236 | [12:54 PM] Zaldbathar: @CriscoWild thats just entierly false | |
| 237 | [12:54 PM] kirbymastah: someone goinf "well everyone disagrees with me so everyone thinks my opinion doesnt count" | |
| 238 | [12:54 PM] kirbymastah: nice victim card | |
| 239 | [12:54 PM] edzan: Some people take it too far though :/ | |
| 240 | [12:54 PM] CriscoWild: All I'm saying is that it would be fun to do trilogy runs. | |
| 241 | [12:54 PM] Zaldbathar: People listen to things i say occasionally and my time is ABSOLUTE TRASH | |
| 242 | [12:54 PM] kirbymastah: then do it | |
| 243 | [12:54 PM] CriscoWild: That's my whole argument. | |
| 244 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: It's nothing more than that. | |
| 245 | [12:55 PM] kirbymastah: i would be down to race | |
| 246 | [12:55 PM] Deleted User 9b8978c6: just :Magoo: it | |
| 247 | [12:55 PM] edzan: It is fun | |
| 248 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: But you turn that into this whole "who even are you?" schtick. | |
| 249 | [12:55 PM] Zaldbathar: I dont think anyone nessisarily disagrees | |
| 250 | [12:55 PM] edzan: I'll race Prime Wii Any% whenever | |
| 251 | [12:55 PM] Zaldbathar: its just noone else wants to run it | |
| 252 | [12:55 PM] kirbymastah: and if people get good enough at all 3, lets make a leaderboard | |
| 253 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: I'm not saying anyone here has to run it lol. | |
| 254 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: I said I would. | |
| 255 | [12:55 PM] kirbymastah: then go ahead | |
| 256 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: And I'm getting dumped on lol. | |
| 257 | [12:55 PM] edzan: Nobody wants to run it because certain people have given it the identity of being a bad game @Zaldbathar | |
| 258 | [12:55 PM] MLSTRM: Reminder that you can do runs for fun and NOT have a leaderboard for it | |
| 259 | [12:55 PM] CriscoWild: Kirby going hard 'cause who even am I? | |
| 260 | [12:55 PM] kirbymastah: but dont suggest making a leaderboard when it isnt taken super seriously | |
| 261 | [12:56 PM] E-Dragon: if you want to run the entire triology then go ahead, noone will stop you from doing that | |
| 262 | [12:56 PM] CriscoWild: I'll suggest whatever I want to suggest. You can be a sourpuss and not like it but I'm not gonna censor myself on your behalf 'cause who even am I. | |
| 263 | [12:56 PM] kirbymastah: i only pointed that out to suggest that you arent familiar with the mindset of people wanting to optimize a game | |
| 264 | [12:56 PM] edzan: :jrpMagoo: | |
| 265 | [12:57 PM] edzan: @CriscoWild Please don't take this sudden argument the wrong way | |
| 266 | [12:57 PM] edzan: :> | |
| 267 | [12:57 PM] CriscoWild: I mean, I'm trying not to look at this as a whole community being negative kind of thing. | |
| 268 | [12:57 PM] CriscoWild: I just got here. | |
| 269 | [12:57 PM] CriscoWild: I'm pretty sure it's just Kirby. | |
| 270 | [12:57 PM] edzan: Kirby is nice | |
| 271 | [12:58 PM] CriscoWild: IDK though. It's rough when you try to meet new people and they're unwelcoming. | |
| 272 | [12:58 PM] kirbymastah: i admit to being more negative than o shouldve | |
| 273 | [12:58 PM] CriscoWild: DKC boys are the same way. | |
| 274 | [12:58 PM] edzan: He probably just misinterpereted the situation | |
| 275 | [12:58 PM] CriscoWild: Maybe the MMX community spoiled me though. | |
| 276 | [12:58 PM] edzan: :jrpMagoo: | |
| 277 | [12:58 PM] edzan: I welcome anyone honestly, it's nice to have new runners | |
| 278 | [12:58 PM] E-Dragon: If you make a run of the triology then we will probably put it on the lb | |
| 279 | [12:58 PM] CriscoWild: That was the first community I ever was involved in and literally 99% of the crew wants to play with you and teach you shit and do whatever kind of weird ass meme race you wanna do. | |
| 280 | [12:58 PM] E-Dragon: just as we did for the 200% guy | |
| 281 | [12:59 PM] kirbymastah: i would appreciate if you stopped pulling the victim card when people disagree though | |
| 282 | [12:59 PM] edzan: I'd race Prime Wii tonight if you knew the route :jrpMagoo: | |
| 283 | [12:59 PM] CriscoWild: Soppanaama, ranked 13 out of like 200 in MMX, will race me dashless vs. dash and I'm like not even sub-50, just for the hell of it. But I come here thinking trifecta might be fun and who even am I? | |
| 284 | [12:59 PM] MLSTRM: no-one said trifecta wouldn't be fun | |
| 285 | [1:00 PM] MLSTRM: no-one said that no-one will ever run it | |
| 286 | [1:00 PM] kirbymastah: holy shit | |
| 287 | [1:00 PM] kirbymastah: nobody said you cant race | |
| 288 | [1:00 PM] edzan: Tfw i'm actually learning Corruption 100% to do 300% | |
| 289 | [1:00 PM] MLSTRM: people just expressed reluctance to create an empty leaderboard | |
| 290 | [1:00 PM] edzan: :stuck_out_tongue: | |
| 291 | [1:00 PM] CriscoWild: I can set up X1-X8 monthly relays with people who have two hour long times or sub-36's and they all get along but I come here and who even am I | |
| 292 | [1:00 PM] CriscoWild: GG lol | |
| 293 | [1:00 PM] CriscoWild: We're havin' fun now, boys. | |
| 294 | [1:00 PM] edzan: lol | |
| 295 | [1:00 PM] MLSTRM: you have to consider it both ways though, to us you came here and effectively demanded a new category to be put on the leaderboard with no evidence that you're going to commit | |
| 296 | [1:01 PM] e a s t: why are you bragging about what you accomplished in another community | |
| 297 | [1:01 PM] e a s t: is this a speech | |
| 298 | [1:01 PM] edzan: Also we are a little defensive because we get a lot of attacks about us using IGT over RTA from random people | |
| 299 | [1:01 PM] e a s t: are we supposed to feel sorry for you | |
| 300 | [1:01 PM] CriscoWild: I didn't demand anything. | |
| 301 | [1:02 PM] CriscoWild: What did I say that was taken as demanding? Point it out and I'll clear it up. | |
| 302 | [1:03 PM] e a s t: 'we should add a leaderboard' | |
| 303 | 'we shouldn't' x5 | |
| 304 | 'we should if you disagree youre a bully' | |
| 305 | [1:03 PM] e a s t: that sounds demanding to me | |
| 306 | [1:03 PM] edzan: Anybody want to race anything.... | |
| 307 | [1:03 PM] CriscoWild: "we should if you disagree youre a bully" is that a direct quote? | |
| 308 | [1:03 PM] CriscoWild: Copy/paste it for me. I think I must have mistyped when I said that. | |
| 309 | [1:04 PM] CriscoWild: 'Cause that sounds pretty triggering and if I actually said that, I owe you all an apology. | |
| 310 | [1:05 PM] MLSTRM: "IDK why you'd not want to see that. Trifectas are great." "One person will do a run, then we'll make a board for it, the run will go up there, someone will want to beat it." "There's totally a point in making a trilogy board." "When you have a trilogy, you do a trifecta. That's how it works." ": If none of you want to do it, I'll do it." | |
| 311 | [1:05 PM] CriscoWild: What part of that sounds demanding? | |
| 312 | [1:05 PM] CriscoWild: I didn't mean for it to sound demanding so it's hard for me to see demanding in it when I look back at it. So I need it to be pointed out to me. | |
| 313 | [1:05 PM] edzan: "when you have a trilogy, you do a trifects. That's how it works" | |
| 314 | [1:06 PM] edzan: imo, idk | |
| 315 | [1:06 PM] CriscoWild: But you know how it is. People interpret things the way they want. | |
| 316 | [1:06 PM] CriscoWild: I came in here trying to be friendly. People now interpret me as being annoying. | |
| 317 | [1:06 PM] CriscoWild: Not intentional but that's how it goes. | |
| 318 | [1:06 PM] E-Dragon: that really sounded like people were super interested in doing trifecta ... yeah we tried to convince you that the opposite is the case | |
| 319 | [1:07 PM] CriscoWild: Kirby probably wasn't trying to come off as being unwelcoming but that's how I interpret his behavior. That's how it goes. | |
| 320 | [1:07 PM] edzan: Crisco | |
| 321 | [1:07 PM] edzan: Tell me what I should run tonight plz | |
| 322 | [1:07 PM] CriscoWild: Anything or just games you're familiar with? | |
| 323 | [1:07 PM] CriscoWild: 'Cause I have one in mind but IDK if you run it. | |
| 324 | [1:08 PM] edzan: Something I know, I know Prime 1 Any%, 100%, Prime 2 100% | |
| 325 | [1:08 PM] edzan: And I could potentially do a Prime Wii Any% run | |
| 326 | [1:08 PM] edzan: or learn Prime Wii 100% | |
| 327 | [1:08 PM] edzan: :I | |
| 328 | [1:09 PM] CriscoWild: Race me in Prime. Your 100% vs. my Any%. Maybe I'll be able to complete a run. | |
| 329 | [1:09 PM] edzan: lol sure | |
| 330 | [1:09 PM] CriscoWild: I ain't never scared. | |
| 331 | [1:09 PM] edzan: I just gotta finish setting up then do a tad of practice | |
| 332 | [1:09 PM] edzan: I have a 1:18 100% PB btw :jrpMagoo: | |
| 333 | [1:10 PM] CriscoWild: My best IGT for Any% is 9:37. | |
| 334 | [1:10 PM] CriscoWild: Stay owned @CriscoWild. | |
| 335 | [1:10 PM] edzan: lol, let me finish setting up then i'll join General voice chat | |
| 336 | [1:11 PM] CriscoWild: I'll hop in with you. | |
| 337 | [1:11 PM] CriscoWild: See, this is the friendliness I was hoping for. People coming together to bond over shared interests. We all love Prime. Let's be friends. That's what's up. | |
| 338 | [1:11 PM] CriscoWild: Edzan, you're a credit to the community. | |
| 339 | [1:12 PM] CriscoWild: Keep on keepin' on, brother. | |
| 340 | [1:12 PM] MLSTRM: see, comments like that just seem to only serve the purpose of creating a divide or shame others. | |
| 341 | But maybe that's just how I interpret it. | |
| 342 | [1:12 PM] CriscoWild: I say let's be friends and that's interpreted as shameful or dividing. RIP me. | |
| 343 | [1:13 PM] CriscoWild: I can't win lol. | |
| 344 | [1:13 PM] edzan: lol rip | |
| 345 | [1:13 PM] e a s t: tbh same | |
| 346 | [1:13 PM] edzan: Ok i'm ready now @CriscoWild | |
| 347 | [1:14 PM] Zaldbathar: Uhhh | |
| 348 | [1:14 PM] Zaldbathar: Why so much rage? Was this a huge misunderstanding? | |
| 349 | [1:14 PM] e a s t: mostly | |
| 350 | [1:14 PM] MrRobotPirate: ohboi | |
| 351 | [1:15 PM] CriscoWild: Big misunderstanding by a lot of people. | |
| 352 | [1:15 PM] e a s t: is there a master88 quote for this moment | |
| 353 | [1:15 PM] e a s t: im sure there is | |
| 354 | [1:15 PM] Zaldbathar: The fact i was throwing in passive agressive comments probs didnt help xD my bad | |
| 355 | [1:15 PM] e a s t: or this channel could go back to being #events | |
| 356 | [1:16 PM] Zaldbathar: Good point this shouldve been in general xD | |
| 357 | [1:21 PM] kirbymastah: apologies about misunderstanding then @CriscoWild , i interpreted a lot of what you said as "demanding" since a lot of people that don't run prime do those kinds of things | |
| 358 | [1:25 PM] kirbymastah: Everyone's fine with new runners, and I apologize for coming off more negative than I should've (and is something I should be working on). That being said, I will say if you make a suggestion to a community, you should expect both agreements and disagreements, and not take it personally if someone disagrees | |
| 359 | [1:25 PM] kirbymastah: (...so when are we doing a race of mp1+2+3?) | |
| 360 | [1:29 PM] CriscoWild: You're mistaken if you think what I took personally was someone disagreeing with my suggestion. | |
| 361 | [1:29 PM] CriscoWild: What I take personally is being invalidated as a person by someone for silly reasons like "I don't know you" or "You're not as fast as me" or "You're not part of my clique." | |
| 362 | [1:30 PM] kirbymastah: well i admit i shouldn't have brought that up, but again I only said that to bring up a point that the mindset of runners here is different than what you're used to | |
| 363 | [1:30 PM] kirbymastah: regardless i apologize for that, it was not my intention | |
| 364 | [1:30 PM] CriscoWild: The mindset that I'm used to is that everyone wants to have fun with each other, in whatever form that fun may come in. | |
| 365 | [1:30 PM] kirbymastah: *not my intention to imply "your opinion is invalid" | |
| 366 | [1:30 PM] CriscoWild: So yeah, maybe things are different here. Obviously IDK. | |
| 367 | [1:31 PM] CriscoWild: Guess I gotta get used to it. | |
| 368 | [1:32 PM] kirbymastah: well, i've been around for a while, and the general mindset is focusing on optimizing individual runs | |
| 369 | [1:32 PM] kirbymastah: people here are less competitive than other games (i.e. don't really care about leaderboards much) | |
| 370 | [1:32 PM] kirbymastah: hopefully that makes more sense | |
| 371 | [1:41 PM] Zaldbathar: I dont think ive seen people be really competitive in this discord like. Ever | |
| 372 | [1:41 PM] Zaldbathar: Outside just fun race kinds of competition | |
| 373 | [1:42 PM] MrRobotPirate: RACE ME BRO | |
| 374 | [1:42 PM] MrRobotPirate: Kappa | |
| 375 | [1:45 PM] Zaldbathar: I actually just am not good enough to finish runs atm :fggExistence: | |
| 376 | [1:45 PM] Zaldbathar: Ive been practicing all the wrong things cuz fun | |
| 377 | [1:45 PM] MrRobotPirate: i was 5 hours in heading to ridley | |
| 378 | [1:45 PM] MrRobotPirate: pretty sure i'm F R E E | |
| 379 | [1:46 PM] MrRobotPirate: i mean | |
| 380 | [1:46 PM] MrRobotPirate: no | |
| 381 | [1:46 PM] MrRobotPirate: ofc you won't beat me | |
| 382 | [1:46 PM] MrRobotPirate: i'm the best | |
| 383 | [1:46 PM] MrRobotPirate: Kappa | |
| 384 | [1:47 PM] Zaldbathar: lol i wouldnt know ive only actually finished 2 runs :fggExistence: | |
| 385 | [1:47 PM] Zaldbathar: my last run died to exo 30min ahead | |
| 386 | [1:47 PM] e a s t: yo | |
| 387 | [1:47 PM] e a s t: for extra life this year | |
| 388 | [1:48 PM] e a s t: we should do 5x rta mission final screen | |
| 389 | [1:48 PM] Zaldbathar: D: | |
| 390 | [1:48 PM] Zaldbathar: thats actually an amazing idea | |
| 391 | [1:48 PM] e a s t: no reloading saves | |
| 392 | [1:48 PM] e a s t: otherwise you just save in impact crater | |
| 393 | [1:48 PM] Zaldbathar: ofc. I would sooner reset from attempt 5 dying to exo before id load a save | |
| 394 | [1:48 PM] Zaldbathar: Single Segment or gtfo | |
| 395 | [1:49 PM] Zaldbathar: Lets make it interesting. | |
| 396 | [1:49 PM] Zaldbathar: All runs must escape frigate OoB in 4:30 or faster | |
| 397 | [1:49 PM] e a s t: uh | |
| 398 | [1:49 PM] e a s t: no | |
| 399 | [1:49 PM] e a s t: lol | |
| 400 | [1:49 PM] Zaldbathar: 3:00 | |
| 401 | [1:52 PM] e a s t: its a 7 hour challenge | |
| 402 | [1:52 PM] e a s t: if you never reset | |
| 403 | [1:52 PM] e a s t: and finish the game around 1:25rta | |
| 404 | [1:53 PM] Zaldbathar: i mean like, escape frigate with that much time on the count down timer | |
| 405 | [1:53 PM] e a s t: ik | |
| 406 | [1:53 PM] e a s t: im just saying | |
| 407 | [1:53 PM] Zaldbathar: ok then im the confused one lmao i wasnt sure | |
| 408 | [1:53 PM] Zaldbathar: oh i get what you mean derp |