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1 | - | Emulators: |
1 | + | Adding new timing comparison for playing on Twilight on a 3DS to test its viability for Emu boards for DS Pokemon games. |
2 | - | The two emulators for DS games being considered for submissions are DeSmuME (0.9.11) and MelonDS. The current Emulator allowed is DeSmuME (0.9.11) |
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3 | Remember of course that currently both Melon and Desmume are allowed, along with Flash Carts and Repro. But WiiUVC injection is not. | |
4 | - | From the timing below, you will see that MelonDS performs more closely to console, however is still faster. |
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5 | ||
6 | - | MelonDS requires the user to get DS firmware themselves in order to run. |
6 | + | |
7 | - | MelonDS does not natively support changing the time within the program itself (this can be done in DeSmuME by using the "record movie" function to start at a specific time/date). This means in order to set the date to a specific time, the user must open it through an external program (such as RunAsDate), or manually change the clock on their computer each time they wish to change the time. |
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8 | Soul Silver: | |
9 | - | These things make MelonDS currently less "user friendly" to use, specifically in the instance of doing RNG Manipulation, as that requires specific times and dates. |
9 | + | |
10 | (Violet City Gate - each side) | |
11 | [Timing: TF inside. | |
12 | End: First non black frame after 5th back reload] | |
13 | - | Considering the addition of Flash Carts, Repro Carts, and WiiU VC: |
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14 | DS Console: Right side: 23.07s | Left side: 30.64s | |
15 | - | All of those are under consideration to be added, but not in comparison to official console runs. |
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16 | MelonDS: Right side: 22.28s | Left side: 29.92s | |
17 | - | The method for WiiU VC is traditionally not allowed, as the game was not actually released for the WiiU Virtual Console. It requires an injection of the rom to play through the virtual console itself. It is being considered however, to allow an alternative for those who may not be able to capture a DS, nor be able to capture an emulator (not everyone has a PC capable of doing so.) |
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18 | WiiU VC: Right side: 15.08s | Left side: 22.75s | |
19 | - | Flash Carts and Repro Carts are also being considered, as an alternative way to play on DS without having an official cart. It would also allow users who can not emulate the game on PC an option to run the games. |
19 | + | Twilight: Right side: 20.01s | Left side: 27.03s |
20 | ||
21 | --- | |
22 | Save after: | |
23 | [Timing: Yes/No disappears | |
24 | End: First text after save] | |
25 | - | |
26 | DS Console: 8.20s | |
27 | Flash Cart: 3.24s | |
28 | MelonDS: 8.16s | |
29 | Desmume: 7.93s | |
30 | WiiU VC: 4.84s | |
31 | Twilight: 1.31s | |
32 | ||
33 | ---------- | |
34 | ||
35 | Platinum | |
36 | 5 reloads | |
37 | (Lake Verity) | |
38 | [Timing: TF inside. | |
39 | End: First non white frame after 5th back reload] | |
40 | - | |
41 | DS Console: 28.40s | |
42 | - | DS Console: 8.20s |
42 | + | Repro Cart: 28.40s |
43 | - | Flash Cart: 3.24s |
43 | + | Flash Cart: 24.89s |
44 | - | MelonDS: 8.16s |
44 | + | MelonDS: 27.87s |
45 | - | Desmume: 7.93s |
45 | + | Desmume: 21.25s |
46 | - | WiiU VC: 4.84s |
46 | + | Twilight: 23.26s |
47 | ||
48 | --- | |
49 | Save after: | |
50 | [Timing: Yes/No disappears | |
51 | End: First text after save] | |
52 | - | |
53 | DS Console: 6.79s | |
54 | Repro: 6.79s | |
55 | Flash Cart: 1.47s | |
56 | - | DS Console: 28.40s |
56 | + | MelonDS: 6.58s |
57 | - | Repro Cart: 28.40s |
57 | + | Desmume: 6.45s |
58 | - | Flash Cart: 24.89s |
58 | + | Twilight: 1.32s |
59 | - | MelonDS: 27.87s |
59 | + | |
60 | - | Desmume: 21.25s |
60 | + | |
61 | ||
62 | White 2: | |
63 | 10 reloads | |
64 | (Aspertia Gate) | |
65 | [Timing: First TF, character moves. | |
66 | End: First non black frame after] | |
67 | - | DS Console: 6.79s |
67 | + | |
68 | - | Repro: 6.79s |
68 | + | |
69 | - | Flash Cart: 1.47s |
69 | + | |
70 | - | MelonDS: 6.58s |
70 | + | |
71 | - | Desmume: 6.45s |
71 | + | |
72 | MelonDS: 1:00.70 | |
73 | Desmume (Bus-level & Dynamic recompiler Off): 45.69s | |
74 | Desmume (Bus-level & Dynamic recompiler On): 45.85s | |
75 | Twilight (DS Mode): 51.65s | |
76 | ||
77 | 335 5490 | |
78 | ----- | |
79 | Save after | |
80 | (White 2 Aspertia Gate) | |
81 | [Timing: Textbox disappears | |
82 | End: First text (e.g. I sa)] | |
83 | - | |
84 | DS Console: 6.33s | |
85 | 3DS Console: 6.26s | |
86 | Flash Cart (DS): 4.46s | |
87 | Flash Cart (3DS): 4.46s | |
88 | MelonDS: 6.04s | |
89 | Desmume (Bus-level & Dynamic recompiler Off): 4.84s | |
90 | Desmume (Bus-level & Dynamic recompiler On): 4.86s | |
91 | Twilight (DS Mode): 4.45s | |
92 | ||
93 | --- | |
94 | ||
95 | Additionally, Soft Resetting seems to be *really* slow with Twilight, unless I've missed something it seems to take almost an extra 15 seconds to initialise. |