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- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: You know, I'm very sorry, and saddened things have got to the point, where we've gone from
- friends at one point, to you absolutely hating me. It sucks, I've tried to make ammends as best as I can, and I've
- apologized many times for my part in things, but conflicts are a two-way street and there's never going to be progress
- in a positive manner, if you don't want there to be. I definitely, want there to be a repair, but from what I've been
- told and seen...
- Well, I've gotten a few reports and screenshots of stuff from players that you probably thought you could trust, and
- you know, I really don't want to take action against you. That's not what I want at all, all I wanted was to repair
- the bridge that had been built between us in the past few months.
- You've made it abdundantly clear though, that you're not interested in that. I could be wrong, but it's being passed
- on that you view the game is a toxic environment and you hope nobody plays here.
- If you're not happy here as a player, and you're not happy with me, and you have no desire to even try and repair our
- relationship in any manner, whether to at least being amicable, if not friends. The, it might not be the best idea, to
- continue playing here.
- Causing problems, that's just making things more toxic, for the vast majority, who are having fun.
- There are many other games out there, many sites, that may suit you better. If you don't want to try and repair our
- relationship at all, it might be best to consider that maybe it's time to say goodbye.
- For what it is worth, I really valued our time together, and I am sorry that I couldn't have done a better job in my
- own actions, and reactions to situations and things that have gone on. That's wholly on me, I know I've made mistakes.
- I really, am, sorry, it's come to this.
- You were one of the players, and staff, who I truly valued on here for your work and dedication and it is a shame to
- see you go from staff, and it would be a shame to see you go as a player, but if we can't repair things at all, it's
- not at all healthy for this to continue.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'You didn't want to repair anything because when I sent you that email, I didn't get a
- response, I got you talking to everyone but me about it. You haven't tried to repair anything...until possibly right
- this second. Also, I don't believe you got anything from anyone, although I've seen a LOT of shit. Stuff that makes me
- wonder why you would try to approach me in any kind of friendly manner.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I did in fact, reply to your email. When I got no reply, I assumed you blocked me. I've also
- prior, sent you emails, gchats, and even @mails with my desire to try and repair things. There's so many people 'in
- the middle though' passing information, back and forth. The same people, who perhaps, act sympathetic to me, while
- saying something about you, only to do the same to you. Not saying, that is the case, but, there seems to be a lot of
- speculation, and rumors being tossed around. Like, when you flipped out on me via email, because I complained, I was
- upset.. that nobody had showed up to my musical scene elsemu* There was no badmouthing of you, there were no attacks
- on you, but still, clearly, someone wanted to cause some drama.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: If you hate me, and you don't have any desire to repair things, I won't push you. I'd just
- ask, go back, to when you were brand new, and read over our emails or something. You're acting like I'm this terrible
- person, because of some shitty disagreements, and events between us recently, using logs from 4 months ago almost to
- hilight what a terrible person I am.. but it's like you've forgotten any good, or support, or whatever, ever. Claiming
- we are 'friends' is not a tactic, as far as I know, we were friends, our PCs were even best friends.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'I did not get any reply to your email, and I've been watching. I've gotten replies to other
- emails you have sent before so I will simply assume that is another lie. I also check my @mails here every time I log
- in. Nothing. I want you to stop treating people like shit. Because it's detrimental to this game, and to a lot of
- other things. Now, lets be clear here. I'm not acting like you're some terrible person. Every single thing I have said
- or shown to someone has been things that you've done. Without any additional comments about what *I* think of you. I
- have worked my ASS off for you and you state on pub that the staff you have are undedicated and stupid and you don't
- trust them to do some of the jobs you do? You have spit in my face TIME and TIME again. LOOK AT WHAT YOU PAGED TO ME
- BEFORE. I am SORRY for the "situation". Not with how I treated you or others. You're sorry that people are finally
- taking excpetion to a poor attitude and rudeness that is getting more constant.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I have said some hurtful things. I know for a fact, that the majority of this has started a
- month ago when I said what I said to matt's player. It's easy to see how someone could be wrong in their own
- preconceptions or ideas of what is going on, because it happens to all of us.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: You're personally, choosing, to take offense at a comment, that was not directed towards you,
- and I can bring up more logs of me praising your work, and what you've done then anything negative.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: So, you may think some pretty bad shit about me, and maybe you've got your reasons to believe
- it. Likewise, I had some reasons to believe some pretty bad shit about you, including people like James and Jude
- telling me you, were why they quit and would not come back. So yes, I did, for a great deal of time, think, that you
- have had a direct, detrimental effect, on any male player, you've been involved in. I can see, how hearing that from
- another person might be a huge piss off.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'You're stating that in general. That includes me. I'm sure you realize how it feels when
- someone says smoething mean to you, but to not even realize that it might have hurt? I know you've said a lot of
- hurtful things. VERY much so recently. But you know what? I tried to take the high road and be nice, and all it did
- was result in you claiming that I vilify you. Please, I know. I know what is being said. I'm not an idiot. James might
- have said that but I know for a FACT that Jude didn't, because I speak to him on discord on a daily basis. James
- didn't have to leave. He decided he wanted to, and in no small part because of how he was also treated on staff.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I should have come to you with my concerns, rather then sharing them with someone else. I
- should have opened communication for my concerns and issues, or at least tried to, or been willing to in that regard.
- Then Jude lied the last time he logged on here.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'Hey, I have screen shots and logs that prove my points. Concretely. You're welcome to say
- anything you want, but if Jude felt that strongly about me and thought I was so toxic and horrible then he wouldn't
- have asked me to play with him on another MU* and help me set it up. Sorry, I don't believe that.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: However, it's a two way street. I've put my cards on the table, and been met with more
- hostility, even when you've been going around spreading blatantly false rumors about me and my reaction, isn't to boot
- you or ban yu, which is what every fellow site wiz I spoke to.. said to. Instead, I want to work to fixing this, if it
- cannot be fixed, it's not healthy for this to continue regardless.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'It is a two way street and you still have not apologized for several things that you've done
- and now you're telling me things that I know to be a lie. Also. Anything that I have said to anyone, I can back it up.
- So I don't have to spread false rumors. So maybe if we can start with an apology I'm willing to sit down and entertain
- trying to work things out. But stop bringing up things that I know are a falsehood, and that includes Jude.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: The whole clean slate posted was aimed at /you/ because in my email reply I asked to wipe the
- slate clean and try to start over without all of the BS built up between us.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'You didn't come and talk to ME. You posted stuff, talked to others, said some really rank
- and nasty shit. Most people think that's aimed at Ashur, and why not, because I haven't page blocked you? None of us
- have.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: It was for everyone, you need to, let go of the pettiness right now, and try to focus on
- fixing the issue, or walking away from it, which is always an option, I don't have you here at gunpoint, and I
- certainly don't want you here unhappy.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'I'm perfectly happy when I'm not dealing with the back handed and rude bullshit that I have
- put up with. That we've all put up with. I've been pretty damn polite, actually. Considering some of the things that
- have been said and done. I'm not being petty, and like I said. An apology would be a great start, and the only one
- that I've ever gotten from you is after the thing with Qwillis had happened.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I'm extremely sorry, that my actions, and the things I said have upset you, belittled, or
- disrespected you. Whether they were said in the heat of the moment, or because I thought them to be true, there was no
- intent to hurt you, or upset you or cause issues between us.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'Thank you. I'm sorry that you think that I'm trying to sow dissention when all I actually
- want is to be left alone to do my thing. Point in fact, I wish this game would do well, but there are issues that need
- to be addressed and that's why I sent you that email.. A lot of people have said a lot of things that were said about
- me, and I attribute that to the fact that you were angry. I really hope that it doesn't keep happening though. Because
- people literally tell me everything. Even though I absolutely don't want to know.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I'm just going to go out on a limb here, and say, that I don't doubt you believe, I'm going
- around saying all this bad shit, there really hasn't been much. You can talk to people like Qwillis, who I /praised/
- you to up and down for continuing to staff and work on NV despite us having issues. I don't want to point fingers, and
- hey, I'm again, not denying, I have said stuff, but.. I have this terrible feeling, that some of what has been brought
- to you is accidental or wilful misinterpretation by the people bringing it to me. I'm not going to point fingers, or
- take guesses, because I know the people who have been telling me things, and not all of them are people I consider to
- have everyone's best interests at heart. So I am, very sorry, for any of the negative or hurtful things, I have said,
- and I have no way to know if everything sent your way is true, in context, or anything of the sort, but I"ll apologize
- for those things as well, because it's not my desire to have an issue between us. We were really good friends, I get
- there might be too much damage done, to have that again, but I don't want to be enemies.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: What has been really hurtful to me, is going around and telling people i'm this other person,
- I don't know all the details, and I don't want to. I'm not interested, I don't want to add more fuel to a fire or
- cause more drama. What I'd really like, is if there could not be rumors, and attacks made against me. Maybe the person
- who came to me is absolutely lying to me, and there is no post, and you've never said anything.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: but just to clarify, I'm the site owner, every system on here was designed, and created by me
- and under intellectual properties laws, belong to me, minus the FO specific stuff which is trademarked by Bethesda,
- for example Brotherhood of Steel or whatever. I've put untold hours into it, and it doesn't belong to anyone else.
- Likewise, Resident Evil: redefined was my very first mud I've ran and this is my 2nd, so I've made mistakes, and I
- wish I could fix many of them, but I'm just human. I have no clue who 'Elsa' is, by the way, but given from what I was
- told they ran another mud long before me, it seems kind of unlikely, unless I've got multiple personality disorder :(
- You paged Vault Girl with 'I was never your enemy. I still get people to come try this game, regardless, and I want
- things here to work out. They won't though, not if people are treated like shit. They'll keep leaving, they'll keep
- giving up and all I want is for people to be treated fairly. For you to treat people like YOU want to be treated. If
- we said things to you that you've said to some of us, or about us, you wouldn't be very happy. All I'm trying to do is
- to get you to treat people like you want to be treated. If you can't do that, things are going to remain the same.
- That has absoultely NOTHING to do with me.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: It's fair to say, that while I've failed many times, in treating people the best, there's
- many times, where people have failed, in doign the same. Me being headwizard? doesn't make me any less of a human
- being, then any of you.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I can promise to do my best, but, when I feel uncomfortable on here, ebcause of the rumors
- that reach my ears, about me, it's hard. So, I can give you my word, to put that extra effort, and try to be extra
- conscious of what I am doing but...
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: ...what is going on, on your end, it has to stop to.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I'm definitely not perfect, but I give my all, and I give my best for everyone on here.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I hope that's reasonable.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'I've been a lot nicer than other people have been. I'm willing to go back to my silent
- stance where I don't talk about anything, but the next time I send you an email. Come to me with a response and not go
- to the patreon channel or to every other person who decided to tell me what you said, in great detail. If I'm being
- attacked and spoken about unfairly, I'm going to respond. I'm an adult and I don't take people talking badly about me
- lying down, no matter how passive someone thinks I am. I'm not the only one who probably is owed an apology though.
- There are a lot of people. A LOT OF PEOPLE, who have felt personally attacked. Whether it's true or not, that's
- between you and them. You're human, and you make mistakes, but that doesn't mean you should treat people like shit
- because of it.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: That's fair enough, and that was poor of me to do. I just want to know, that these rumors are
- going to stop. I don't care how or why they started, I just want to run the site in peace and work on improving
- whatever problems exist, so the site can be the best it can be.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'What rumors?'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I mentioned them above
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: Apparently I'm someone who ran some other mud and all kinds of junk.
- You paged Vault Girl with 'Fine. I won't post any further. I just hope that this isn't some placating thing where
- nothing changes and problems don't get resolved. That would be unfortunate, because people will leave, and that is
- something I don't want.'
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I don't know about the post, to be fair, or where it is, a link was offered but I don't want
- to read something like that and get more upset. I also don't think having rumors, and stuff like negative posts, is
- ultimately helpful fo the game. I'm giving you my word, I'll do everything I can, if I fuck up or you hear something,
- come to me, and I will sit with you and address it. All I'm asking is, don't go around badmouthing the game/me or have
- posts out there doing that, that's like hurting all of us, because it hurts the game. I don't play, so I can focus on
- doing the best I can for everyone, and that's all I want to keep doing.
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I don't have any reason to placate either, if I didn't want you here, and want to fix things,
- I wouldn't need to go through the motions. You know, what I mean? I hope you realize, this is all, because I do, in
- fact, want you here, not the opposite. Kicking is way easier then spending time talking. XD
- You paged Vault Girl with 'I did come to you last time, and this is what happened. I hope next time it won't go that
- way.'
- From afar, Vault Girl (Vault) nods, "Well, I hope this can be the end of any issues between you and I, from here on
- out. Take a couple weeks, if you still want to staff/build, I'm happy to let you after that, but probably both having
- a little space in that regard will be helpful."
- Vault Girl (Vault) pages: I'll do my best to give you space and stay out of your way, and avoid saying anything about
- you, positive, or negative. Just, want the same, and not to have to be told rumors and drama; think that's what you
- want to.
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