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  1. Transcript of New Recording 242.m4a (at 2023-05-07 1829.31).txt
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  4. I consider this other strategy.
  5. So the one described in this article is that the aliens' only inter-civilizational objective
  6. is to prevent other civilizations acquiring the power to expand or expanding.
  7. So it's sort of like a United States Monroe Doctrine to prevent the emergence of other
  8. superpowers or nuclear powers.
  9. So their only objective is to stop people, to stop civilizations expanding.
  10. Why?
  11. Because, you know, if something expands you can't govern it and if you can't govern it
  12. then maybe it'll go rogue and you'll have a dangerous catastrophic situation.
  13. I mean, surely it's possible.
  14. But it also seems possible that if one civilization could arrive then more than one could arrive.
  15. And maybe they wouldn't be afraid of dangerous situations.
  16. Maybe like us, they would relish conflict and war and dangerous situations because they
  17. would see in that opportunities to dominate, expand their influence and so on.
  18. So would an alien civilization that could expand necessarily be such an avoidant type?
  19. Anyway, I think that is neither here nor there.
  20. The assumption that they don't want to expand.
  21. They don't want others to expand.
  22. That's their only objective in inter-civilizational relations and they're sort of avoiding, you
  23. know, any kind of dangers or conflicts.
  24. It seems more like such a civilization wouldn't have become a civilization in the first place
  25. but that's neither here nor there.
  26. The means by which they seek to achieve that objective I think is more important and that
  27. is more general I think as well as a behavior that we would expect to see which is they
  28. seek control.
  29. The author in his piece at first says persuasion but it becomes clear what they really mean
  30. and they're repeated a few times is control.
  31. So his thesis is that the aliens are seeking to control us.
  32. I think that is more likely but I disagree as to some of what he says they would do to
  33. achieve that.
  34. I think his idea about the peripheral appearance to the public where we would then sort of
  35. begin to form some sort of ideas about them ourselves.
  36. You know, once we formed those ideas organically they could sort of exploit the ideas that
  37. we'd formed ourselves maybe and that this sort of random appearance would sort of put
  38. them at the top of our status hierarchy perhaps.
  39. I think that's an interesting idea but I also think if you wanted to control humanity, if
  40. you wanted to control Earth, you would go to the top of the status hierarchy.
  41. So you would go to the top of the organizing structures that already control humanity and
  42. control Earth.
  43. So you would go to the top of governments and very large corporate interests and by
  44. seeking to control those interests you would project your control onto the rest of the
  45. population because the rest of the population was already under the control of very large
  46. corporate interests and governments.
  47. So the question then becomes how would the aliens seek to control very large corporate
  48. interests and governments and it seems that the idea which there also seems to be a lot
  49. of sort of law or anecdotal or conspiratorial support for is the idea that some sort of
  50. technology transfer or some sort of crash retrievals, right?
  51. Because if you wanted to control this very powerful corporate interest or government,
  52. wouldn't you want to sort of show them something that they didn't have that they would want,
  53. you know, some amazing power, some incredible technology, some incredible weapons, some
  54. incredible mode of energy or transport.
  55. So you'd show them something like that and then you'd use that shiny thing, dripping,
  56. drip drip distributing it to them in a drip drip fashion.
  57. You'd use that to control them and you'd use their obsession with power and weaponry and
  58. so on.
  59. And your control over that and your secrecy about that to kind of feed them this stuff
  60. and slowly make a show of teaching them how to use this stuff and how to build this stuff.
  61. And because you're the one who holds all the knowledge and the secrets and you can act
  62. like it's far beyond their understanding and you can dole it out to them.
  63. However you want, you can maintain like ultimate control over that cadence and that discovery.
  64. Because if it is really so far advanced from what we know, then you have that ability,
  65. that asymmetric ability and you can make great use of that.
  66. And it seems that this sort of technology transfer has been used by humans when a more advanced
  67. culture encounters or less technologically advanced culture.
  68. And so it's clear that it works on humans and I don't think the aliens would miss considering
  69. to use this as a strategy as well.
  70. And apparently, that's what's happened.
  71. But the clever thing I think is that by giving the governments and the corporates this kind
  72. of power, you're convincing them that they have the thing they want.
  73. They have power over all their subjects and all their people and by them holding some
  74. of the secrets, they start acting like they have power and they feel they have power.
  75. So you're convincing them that they're powerful over their subjects but you're the one who
  76. really holds all the power.
  77. And maybe if you do it right or just because they're blinded by their own greed, maybe
  78. they don't see that in fact you're manipulating them.
  79. Or at the end of the day, maybe they don't care because you know that these aliens don't
  80. want to show their face really among us.
  81. They're just kind of doing some propaganda support and PR campaigns for, you know, to
  82. bolster the belief in the government holding and the corporate holding, you know, these
  83. jewels, these crown jewels of technology, right?
  84. Aliens are just kind of appearing to kind of bolster that propaganda and that power,
  85. the idea that all the government knows something about this.
  86. Because if the government or the corporates know, then they have power over everyone else.
  87. And so everybody creates this power dynamic where they're looking to the governments or
  88. the corporates for some sort of disclosure or some sort of information and they're kind
  89. of literally putting them up on a pedestal as a result of that.
  90. So by doling out some advanced technology, not only do you get the loyalty and control
  91. over the top of the power structures of Earth, but you give those power structures this enhancement
  92. of what they want of their own power dynamic and this sense of they have now greater control
  93. over their populations.
  94. And you don't just give it to one group, you give it to multiple competing power structures
  95. on Earth.
  96. You're playing all sides of the pre-existing divides and conflicts.
  97. And apparently that's what has happened as well.
  98. You know, there have been these UFO crashes that people have said are deliberate in China,
  99. in Russia, in South America, in the United States, obviously, and many other places.
  100. So it's funny that that is not part of the narrative.
  101. The narrative is that, oh, maybe this has happened and maybe aliens are out there, maybe
  102. we're not alone and maybe the government knows something and is not telling us, right?
  103. And that kind of makes you think, well, maybe the government's powerful.
  104. But from this point of view, it's like, what if the government doesn't have any power?
  105. What if corporate doesn't have any power over this?
  106. But they're the ones who are kind of being enslaved because they're desperate for understanding
  107. this knowledge in their technology.
  108. And it's sort of like the aliens are acting like a priest class and they're sort of bringing
  109. in a new batch of initiates.
  110. But it's the priests that have all the power because they have access to the source of
  111. the secret knowledge and they're the mediators, right?
  112. They're the gatekeepers.
  113. And the initiates are just sort of desperate hangers on.
  114. What if our governments and our corporates have been made the initiates?
  115. So it strikes me that the whole UFO narrative and disclosure narrative only reinforces this
  116. dynamic.
  117. And it's a dynamic where you can very easily see that maybe the governments and the corporates
  118. feel like they have power.
  119. But what if they don't?
  120. What if it's just the aliens have power over them because they're using that asymmetrical
  121. knowledge of the technology and they're using greed and ignorance of humans against them?
  122. I mean, if you could give people stuff like that, stuff that they would find hard to refuse,
  123. you know, incredible sources of energy and weaponry and transportation, and you could
  124. make whatever demands you wanted.
  125. You could say, okay, we need to abduct these many people per year for our own experiments.
  126. You cannot tell people about any of this.
  127. And if you abide by these things, we'll continue giving you this training and this advanced
  128. technology and so on and so forth.
  129. I mean, it's certainly a sort of a Faustian bargain.
  130. You can certainly imagine people who are desperate for power and, you know, an advantage.
  131. You can imagine them wanting to make that kind of deal.
  132. Can you imagine them easily rejecting it out of hand and going, no, no, no, thanks.
  133. We're okay with our mediocre level of development and we don't want to know the secrets of the
  134. universe.
  135. We don't want to know what's out there.
  136. We don't care that you're offering it just to us on this exclusive deal and not to our
  137. subjects that we don't care that you're reinforcing our power dynamic or giving us a, you know,
  138. another lever, another kind of bit of support to our quest for power over our populations,
  139. our quest to control the populations.
  140. We don't care about any of that.
  141. No, thank you.
  142. We're good here.
  143. Can you really imagine that happening?
  144. I think, you know, if you're going to overtake a planet, then you definitely have to play
  145. to the psychology and the power structures involved.
  146. And it seems that strategy of going to the top of the power structures, offering them
  147. something they would find very hard to refuse, but something they wanted, offering them something
  148. that helps them get what they want and something that, you know, and using such a strategy
  149. that appeals to and exploits human psychology and existing power structures would be, you
  150. know, a very effective thing to do.
  151. And if such civilizations exist and are so advanced, you would expect them to do something
  152. very sophisticated and effective.
  153. And it's nice also because it has its own sort of cover story, because the way the UFO
  154. narrative is, is we have everybody believing human knows something and corporations know
  155. something and by elevating them to the level of the those who hold the secrets, we're elevating
  156. them to the level of sort of a priest class who holds all the power.
  157. So where perhaps without realizing it, we're reinforcing a power dynamic and making ourselves
  158. sort of dependent upon them for the revelation, you know, so people caught up in this sort
  159. of UFO rapture don't realize that a very large part of that, I think, carried in that narrative
  160. is this great dependence upon the sort of, you know, on a pedestal, self anointed priest
  161. class of the government and corporate who apparently hold all these secrets and everyone's
  162. desperately waiting with bated breath on their next word at the edge of their seat for the
  163. kind of coming disclosure, the drip, drip, drip, you know, and all of that just reinforces
  164. that power dynamic of control, you know, governments and corporates, they love secrets, they love
  165. their advantages, right.
  166. So if it's like that, I think the aliens would definitely use that to, you know, exploit
  167. power structures of Earth's need for this kind of thing, they would definitely use this
  168. kind of secret knowledge and, and that seems like it would be an effective way to control.
  169. So if the aliens really did want to control for whatever reasons, whatever their agenda,
  170. if control was something they wanted, it seems that would be a good way to do it.
  171. And that also explains a lot of the law and what we see.
  172. But it's interesting because it's not the explanation that given, there's lots of explanations
  173. that are given, but none of them are that, you know, the only reason behind all of this
  174. is that aliens actually seeking to control our governments and corporates.
  175. The dominant UFO narrative is really a kind of, you know, a mystery novel, who done it,
  176. you know, is it this or is it that, you know, is it what's the twist going to be in and,
  177. you know, the big setup is, you know, that apparently there's these secrets that some
  178. powerful elites have, right?
  179. So that's kind of the narrative.
  180. But so the interesting thing is that a very obvious way to explain all of that is with
  181. this alternate narrative that is very much not so flattering to the power structures
  182. of Earth, but could be a lot, you know, could have a lot larger explanatory power and could
  183. be a lot more reasonable as a sort of hypothesis to explain if there really were these advanced
  184. beings and if they really were coming to Earth, it could be a better way to explain it all
  185. from that point of view.
  186. We're not sort of the center of the universe.
  187. We're not sort of needed by the aliens, really.
  188. And we're not all powerful.
  189. Our governments and our corporates are not all powerful, but rather they're just slaves
  190. to their own greed and ignorance and stupidity to these more advanced cultures and civilizations,
  191. which actually makes a lot of sense about that's probably what would happen if we really
  192. didn't encounter them.
  193. And probably, you know, people don't want to accept that because humans are very human-centric.
  194. They want to believe they're at the center of everything.
  195. People have been, they think they're at the top for so long and think they can be at the
  196. top.
  197. Yeah, we're the biggest fish in this small pond of Earth.
  198. But if we think like that, then it's probably very hard for us to consider that maybe we're
  199. really not the top, you know, maybe it's not just we're not the top physically, say against
  200. a bear as an individual or something, but maybe we're not even close to the top if you
  201. consider that there's other advanced civilizations and species out there.
  202. And I think that's a very, very hard and bitter pill for humans to swallow when we're just
  203. kind of used to being the big king fish in this tiny little pond, you know.
  204. So it's this sort of archetypal, like fragile, unsupported arrogance of the small-town bully,
  205. you know, who encounters some kids from the big city.
  206. And he figures out he's not so tough after all.
  207. He lives in Denaar for a long time.
  208. Something to think about anyway.
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