CTP: (( im sorry BD, but i cant change wes. so, im not going to bring him into the memo.. or possibly not bring him on pesterchum anymore. ))
CBD: ( fuck ))
CTP: (( i didnt know it was a thing for you, and im sorry ))
CTP: (( i cant justify changing him ))
CTP: (( could you take the bird outta birddave? ))
CBD: (( i dont know why its such a fucking problem to consider the idea that its possible to have deep personal connections with others without needing them to be romantic ))
CBD: (( but fine ))
CBD: (( what the fuck ever ))
CBD: (( if you want to get rid of a perfectly good character who doesnt even NEED to be in romantic or sexual relationships then thats your p[roblem ))
-- CURRENT adiosToreadon [CAT] pats AC on the head. --
CMC: ((Woah woah hold up, I don't think TP is saying that.))
CMC: ((However currently the person providing much of that growth is in a relationship with Wes.))
CMC: ((Which I think is most of the problem right there.))
CBD: (( shit can be retconned ))
CMC: ((Neither character needs to be eliminated and they both can be pretty solidly connected.))
CMC: ((But it doesn't need to be romantic or sexual.))
CMC: ((It could be pre-romantic, just like what Dove and little Dave have.))
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CBD: (( thats what i was trying to say. you can always fucking retcon the romantic aspect ))
CBD: (( and just say that all along they were close in a non-romantic manner )))
CTP: (( ((i cant just retcon shit like that. its not fair to the charecter, and the other people involved. i ))
CMC: ((Talk it over with DY.))
CTP: (( its bad author-al form too ))
CTP: (( alright, one sec ))
CMC: ((You could even keep that kinda stuff off memo too.))
CBD: )(( well if you want to just fucking get rid of a perfectly fine character because you absolutely NEED to have what is essentially a child in a grown up body making out with an adult then thats your problem ))
CTP: ((BD chill for a second))
CTP: (( westley aint no kid. he might be inexperianced, but he doesnt act like his three years old. ))
CBD: he gives me the vibe of a child, coupled with the fact that yes, he was literally born a few weeks ago ))
CTP: (( DY: Ugh, Lardan might as well not exist. ))
CBD: (( im sorry your characters are fucking dependant on your ability for them to make out and fuck ))
CTP: (( woah woah ))
CTP: (( i have charecters that dont make out and fuck ))
CMC ceased responding to memo.
CTP: (( stop spazzing out on me and chill your ass down ))
CTP: (( you chill? ))
CBD: (( well it seems that wes and lardan's existences are dependent on the concept of them dating soooooooooo ))
CTP: (( bird its not like that at all. do you even focus on anything else they do?))
CBD: (( (( i dont care what else they do its fucking upsetting that a guy who very much feels like a child is in a romantic relationship with someone who is both physically and mentally an adult!! ))
CTP: (( then ill fix this. DY was brought in after wes was made to give him a teacher, and yes, their relation ship went a little far- wes was just following what he had been taught by quinn on that first night ))
CTP: (( so ill fix it ))
CTP: (( i wont even use the dice, my mind is made up ))
CBD: (( i just dont think a perfectly good character needs to be deleted by stuff that can easily be retconned ))
CTP: (( i do not approve of retconning ))
CTP: (( not like this ))
CTP: (( give me a story and ill belive. dont just wave a wand and then suddenly shits different ))
CBD: (( there is nothing hard about the concept of saying "btw everyone that romance stuff never happened, they've just been friends on a very deep level" ))
CTP: (( could you do that with bird and kitty? ))
CBD: (( if i had to i could ))
CAT: hUH,
CBD: (( ive retconned bigger shit ))
CBD: (( in group RPs ))
CTP: (( this isnt the same situation))
CTP: (( other parties are not consenting))
CBD: (( then i guess either you and lardan delete your fucking characters or i fuck off out of this memo ))
CBD: (( since you guys are too closeminded for a middleground ))
CBD: (( good job on wasting perfectly good OCs ))
CAT ceased responding to memo.
CTP: (( I am not closeminded. DY and I have talked about this at lenght after you and I talked))
CTP: ((a whole list of 'what if we changed this' ))
CBD: (( youre the ones who cant settle on a middle ground and are forcing a get rid of wes and lardan or get rid of bird situation ))
CTP: (( i dont want to get rid of either, bird. I love you, and DY and wes))
CBD: (( (( i love wes too and i dont think you need to waste a perfectly good character just because you cant retcon the romantic aspect between him and lardan ))
CTP: (( wes wasnt even supposed to get this far. people were supposed to hate him ))
CBD: (( why would people hate someone sweet and naive and childlike ))
CTP: (( because he wasnt tal, and thats all anyone ever wants from me ))
CBD: (( well surprise surprise people like your RPing for more than your ability to solve IC problems ))
CTP: (( i cant tell if thats a compliment or an insult ))
CBD: (( its both a compliment to your RP ability and an insult to your inability to accept that ))
CAC: [sounds like a bit of both
CTP: (( ... ))
CTP: (( aside from retconning wes, anything else you feel needs to be done to him? ))
-- CURRENT plushPsiioniics [CPP] still staying the fuck away from II --
CTP: ((too much PR? too much TP? ))
CBD: (( not really, i think hes adorable and fun. having him interact with benny is really nice. and maybe a little too much TP, bring out more of the strider in him ))
CTP: ((the strider in him is what got him in this mess))
CBD: (( i just think its not hard at all to say that he and lardan had a purely platonic but equally deep and close friendship. you dont need to be romantic with someone in order to learn from and be close to them. ))
CTP: ((you never met PR, did you?))
CBD: (( i did ))
CBD: (( as babyDave ))
CTP: ((for how long?))
CBD: (( since a week i think before the trip on the condesce's ship ))
CTP: ((yeah, then you didnt know PR))
CBD: (( oh well ))
CTP: (( either way, how about i just... take wes's memories. so, yet again, hell be a blank slate that everyone can make what they want out of ))
CBD: (( uuugh ))
CBD: (( why do you need to resort to the most drastic stuff that changes MORE than what a simple retcon would??? ))
CTP: (( (( bird, im losing either way i turn. i get attached to my characters, and i put a little of me in them. ))
CTP: (( retconning wes would be like retconning myself ))
CBD: (( all youd be retconning is the ability for wes and lardan to makeout and shit ))
CBD: (( is that SERIOUSLY such a big fucking requirement for them to be able to be close ))
CTP: (( belive it or not, they havent done much physically. its been mostly chaste kisses ))
CBD: (( you know what whatever ))
CBD: (( youre so fucking determined to either get rid of them or get rid of me ))
CTP: (( nonono, youre right ))
CBD: (( instead of a fucking middleground ))
CTP: (( bird ))
CTP: (( chill ))
CTP: (( ill retcon ))
CBD: (( and i think i need to leave before i start crying again ))