Tyrriel Today at 9:50 AM
I'll get straight to the point:
What of AFU's behavior do you believe that makes Laundronia want to quit?

Quiggle Today at 9:51 AM
one sec
I have screens to support all of these btw
1.  Adara indicated to me, that they wish to return to becoming a crusher of nations, (boasting about doing in it in the past) who fought everyone until they either paid up or left the server.
2. They declared war on us, demanding that we disband our nation, and meant it, I talked with Adara.
3.  Dero turtle talked to me after #2 and said that the demand to disband was not real, and it was just roleplay, however yesterday he admitted they planned to sap all the other nations.  Taking a 180 on his commitment to fun and fair gameplay that respects peoples nation existence.

Tyrriel Today at 9:59 AM
Have any members in Laundronia played on any sort of Factions server?

Quiggle Today at 10:00 AM
Yes, I don't know to what degree, I have not personally.

Tyrriel Today at 10:00 AM
Are you aware of how Factions works?

Quiggle Today at 10:00 AM
No the specifics, but I know bases are largely build as giant bedrock to build limit boxes, where creative builds are not done.

Tyrriel Today at 10:01 AM
Right, because "raids" happen where people blow into your base and take 100% of your stuff and will chase you till the ends of the world just hunt you down
That's the general gist of how Minecraft Factions work

Quiggle Today at 10:02 AM
Which is clearly not how Atlas was designed to operate.

Tyrriel Today at 10:03 AM
Regardless of that I have a few more questions:

Quiggle Today at 10:03 AM
okay

Tyrriel Today at 10:04 AM
Have Aureus /  AFU done anything that makes Laundronia want to quit (not talking about doing)?

Quiggle Today at 10:05 AM
my response to the first question btw, I think i read wrong, I answered it as why we think they want to make us quit
now to this question
none of their actions in game no
as in, physically coming to our base, attacking, etc.  no
the rhetoric they have engaged in to smear our reputation with other nations though, could be considered a contributing factor, when coupled with their posts on the forums and dialogue that we have seen recently
And the fact that they merged with Morvia, who has the money to sap people, aligning with their intentions that we read about

Tyrriel Today at 10:09 AM
So was this an issue before Aureus and Morvia joined up? (sapping people)

Quiggle Today at 10:09 AM
yes, however Dero turtle indicated that they would never try to get another nation to disband, yet they said otherwise and made a change to support that
to be clear, aurues does not make laundronia want to quit for what they say and do today

Tyrriel Today at 10:10 AM
Oh

Quiggle Today at 10:10 AM
They make some of us want to quit, because of what we learn their intentions to be, and that we have no defense against, and how our morale and recruiting would die off

Tyrriel Today at 10:11 AM
So would this be an issue if sapping was no longer possible?

Quiggle Today at 10:11 AM
they make us want to quit because they seem to not be good members of the community, they can have everything, relics, pvpers, money, and they still want to take more wins, so for them, seeing people disband is the only thing they can applaud themselves over

Tyrriel Today at 10:12 AM
But is it tho? Or is it the PvP oriented nation mentality?

Quiggle Today at 10:13 AM
basically if we knew they could not obliterate our nation with gems, then we could ignore them unless they were willing to be enjoyable rivals
well, mentality is not a goal
ask what someone seeks to accomplish, with given mentality, if it has no qualms about seeing nations forced to abandon their creative builds, just because someone has a whim, thats not pvp mentality because it could be done by non-pvpers, its purely bullying
Bottom line is, if there is a group who has be ability to be a bully, and has no notion of respect for others, that to them its nothing more than a long game of rust ---- its  the wrong server for us
rust is a 2 week map cycle where you do try to blow people out of existence
but everyone starts fresh every 2 weeks
is they think of atlas like rust, and can accomplish the destructions of peoples creative efforts, then its a sad thing for us
IF we just build a box out of obby, and then were made to go make another box, then thats a different game, thats not atlas where people spend time building creatively, writing lore, questing, researching
factions and rust are not atlas, even though they are minecraft based
unless im wrong about what atlas wants to be
but the relic system seems to support my notion

Tyrriel Today at 10:17 AM
Again, they have not done anything, they have just talked about potentially doing stuff
Is that correct?
(Sorry just trying to get a tldr in a nice easy format)

Quiggle Today at 10:19 AM
I think that is an oversimplification.  Their actions with regard to talking to other nations to discredit us, and their posts and admissions that they in fact do wish do do what was written.  While they are not actions, they are more than just musings overheard at a water cooler.
If they say, we wish to make you disband, and we ask, are you serious, and they say yes.  That is closer to an action than a statement.

Tyrriel Today at 10:20 AM
Kk thanks for the info

Quiggle Today at 10:20 AM
Is different than we heard they were talking about xyz.