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  1. pichusToday at 2:11 AM
  2. im really not a fan of gen5
  3. we can do something like a random OM every week
  4. so stabmons ag week1, aaa ag week2 etc etc
  5. that will also attract the oms players so thats cool
  6. 3 Usum / 2 oras / 1 om or 4 Usum / 1 oras / 1om sounds fine
  7.  
  8. pichusToday at 2:38 AM
  9. also, lets post the manager signups next week? so that round 1 starts right after OMPL finals
  10.  
  11. icemaster523Today at 3:02 AM
  12. Possibly
  13. STABmons AG would be too busted thoufh
  14. Would be near unplayable due to just 6 shell smash arcs or whatever
  15.  
  16. ChloeToday at 3:58 AM
  17. random format every week doesn't sit well with me
  18. might as well do 4sm 2 oras at that point
  19. Especially bc these formats you're suggesting aren't developed
  20.  
  21. CatalysticToday at 6:31 AM
  22. Let’s not
  23. Do random
  24. Are we doing 6 or 8 slots
  25.  
  26. CatalysticToday at 6:39 AM
  27. I think I’d rather do 6 teams 8 slots
  28. Than 8 teams 6 slots
  29.  
  30. ChloeToday at 6:41 AM
  31. 6 teams 6 slots I assume
  32. We don't have enough players for 6*8(edited)
  33. nor enough formats
  34. we need players for subs too
  35.  
  36. Frogger1387Today at 6:43 AM
  37. What about blitz ag its pretty fun to play and easy enough for people to prep for
  38.  
  39. icemaster523Today at 6:50 AM
  40. I don't think thatd be so good for a forum tour
  41. Especially when calcing and thinking is more serious there
  42.  
  43. Frogger1387Today at 7:11 AM
  44. I just think it would fit better then adding an om but im also not against the idea of 4 sumo 2 oras
  45.  
  46. CatalysticToday at 7:15 AM
  47. I’m not too worried about players tbh
  48.  
  49. Mr. BeanToday at 7:15 AM
  50. I am 6x6 no blitz no bw
  51. Brief thoughts at work
  52.  
  53. CatalysticToday at 7:16 AM
  54. altho yea we're
  55. hard strapped for formats
  56. we can do
  57. 2x ORAS 3x USUM 1x Bo3
  58.  
  59. Frogger1387Today at 7:18 AM
  60. I like the sound of that
  61.  
  62. CatalysticToday at 7:23 AM
  63. i do think we have enough players tho but maybe we release manager sign ups and player signs ups at the same time to gauge how many teams we can afford?
  64. 👍
  65. 1
  66. if we're short we can stick with 6
  67.  
  68. pichusToday at 7:28 AM
  69. 6*6 - 2 bo3 usum, 2 bo1 usum, 1 bo3 oras and 1 bo1 oras
  70. ?
  71.  
  72. CatalysticToday at 7:33 AM
  73. uh
  74. we want a bo3 oras?
  75.  
  76. pichusToday at 7:34 AM
  77. idk
  78. bo1 works
  79.  
  80. ChloeToday at 7:34 AM
  81. bo1 for both oras imo
  82.  
  83. pichusToday at 7:35 AM
  84. do we even have 12 oras players btw?
  85.  
  86. CatalysticToday at 7:36 AM
  87. it's fine
  88. oras ubers players are everywhere
  89. people like gunnerpohjis will wander in
  90.  
  91. ChloeToday at 7:36 AM
  92. I will sign up for oras ag
  93.  
  94. CatalysticToday at 7:36 AM
  95. also chloe here
  96. is busted at oras ag
  97. LOL
  98.  
  99. ChloeToday at 7:36 AM
  100. only tier I was ever good at
  101.  
  102. pichusToday at 7:37 AM
  103. okay fine
  104. i thouhgt u were going to manage
  105.  
  106. CatalysticToday at 7:37 AM
  107. it's ok chloe
  108. i was never good
  109. i mean
  110. manager self purchase
  111. better be a thing
  112.  
  113. ChloeToday at 7:37 AM
  114. I ain't managing
  115. I wouldn't know who to pick for sm
  116.  
  117. pichusToday at 7:37 AM
  118. i dont like the idea of self purchase
  119. what if thimo and hunter decide to manage
  120. D:::
  121. manage together**
  122.  
  123. CatalysticToday at 7:38 AM
  124. ?
  125. so
  126. imagine not allowing self purchase
  127. we can just do the monotype thing where we collectively vote how much a manager self purchase should cost individually for each manager
  128. to balance it
  129.  
  130. pichusToday at 7:39 AM
  131. ehhh idk
  132.  
  133. CatalysticToday at 7:39 AM
  134. like
  135. if ur not gonna allow manager self purchase
  136. we're losing 6 players or even more
  137. and we're already hard strapped :frowning:
  138. plus every other PL has manager slef purchase BUT OMPL lmao
  139.  
  140. ChloeToday at 7:40 AM
  141. I'm the reason ompl doesn't have self purchase
  142.  
  143. CatalysticToday at 7:40 AM
  144. lmao
  145. why
  146.  
  147. ChloeToday at 7:41 AM
  148. I was shit and didn't want jrdn playing
  149.  
  150. CatalysticToday at 7:41 AM
  151. meanie.
  152. ok ngl
  153. jordan's kinda dead
  154. LMAO
  155.  
  156. ChloeToday at 7:41 AM
  157. rip
  158. tbf it was last year I rly pushed for it
  159. And I think ti agreed with me
  160.  
  161. CatalysticToday at 7:41 AM
  162. wdym
  163. pushed for
  164. self purchase
  165. or no self purchase
  166.  
  167. ChloeToday at 7:42 AM
  168. no sp
  169.  
  170. CatalysticToday at 7:42 AM
  171. oh
  172. i mean TI can't play
  173. so i can see why he'd push for it
  174. but i feel like we should probably have it here
  175.  
  176. ChloeToday at 7:43 AM
  177. I agree
  178.  
  179. pichusToday at 7:44 AM
  180. idk i just dont want very good players teaming up
  181. we wanna see quality players play against each other, not with each other
  182. does that make sense
  183.  
  184. CatalysticToday at 7:45 AM
  185. no
  186. are u worried about balance
  187. LOL
  188.  
  189. ChloeToday at 7:45 AM
  190. I think most of the auth or the people who we'd want managing are good players anyway
  191.  
  192. pichusToday at 7:45 AM
  193. yeah kinda
  194.  
  195. CatalysticToday at 7:45 AM
  196. hm
  197. i've seen an interesting system for this
  198. give me a sec
  199.  
  200. pichusToday at 7:46 AM
  201. imagine if skarph and zen decide to manage together and they pick another top player
  202. thats already a very stacked team
  203.  
  204. CatalysticToday at 7:46 AM
  205. https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/monotype-premier-league-v-admin-thread.3651116/post-8153295
  206. Smogon Forums
  207. Tournament - Monotype Premier League V Admin Thread
  208. This thread will contain all administrative decisions regarding Monotype Premier League V, such as trades, activity decisions and more. The schedule and draft results will also be posted here. If you are participating in Monotype Premier League V, you should watch this threa...
  209.  
  210. ChloeToday at 7:46 AM
  211. It'd be one manager per team
  212. I assume
  213.  
  214. CatalysticToday at 7:46 AM
  215. i mean
  216. yea
  217. sure
  218. skarph and zen
  219. could manage togehter
  220.  
  221. pichusToday at 7:47 AM
  222. lets just allow 1 manager to play
  223.  
  224. CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
  225. then they'd spend a whopping 22.5k on themselves
  226.  
  227. pichusToday at 7:47 AM
  228. y/y ?
  229.  
  230. CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
  231. well consider this
  232. skarph and zen
  233. spend 22.5k on themselves
  234. that's 45k out of 80
  235.  
  236. pichusToday at 7:47 AM
  237. thats reasonable
  238.  
  239. CatalysticToday at 7:47 AM
  240. u know what other team w eknow
  241. spent 45k on 2 tiers
  242. bedroom blisseys
  243.  
  244. ChloeToday at 7:47 AM
  245. The Bedroom Blisseys
  246.  
  247. CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
  248. sure andy and mamp are doing fine
  249. but look at their ag aaa stab lmao.
  250.  
  251. pichusToday at 7:48 AM
  252. but we only have AG in ompl
  253. skarph and zen
  254. + 1 gen 6 player
  255. is all they need
  256.  
  257. CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
  258. i mean
  259.  
  260. pichusToday at 7:48 AM
  261. i mean
  262. agpl*
  263.  
  264. CatalysticToday at 7:48 AM
  265. i don't see this being TOO big of an issue
  266. simply because every other fucking premier league does it
  267.  
  268. pichusToday at 7:49 AM
  269. :neutral_face:
  270.  
  271. birbToday at 8:15 AM
  272. If there's no self purchase then you have to subtract 6-12 from our already limited playerbase
  273. So it's not even an option imo
  274.  
  275. CatalysticToday at 8:18 AM
  276. hi @birb
  277. @pichus is worried skarph + zen self purchase for 45k/80k is too unfair
  278. help.
  279.  
  280. pichusToday at 8:18 AM
  281. look i really dont wanna explain again
  282.  
  283. CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
  284. no like
  285. u don't have to
  286. i can explain for u
  287. LOL
  288.  
  289. birbToday at 8:19 AM
  290. 22.5k for self purchase?
  291.  
  292. CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
  293. yea so
  294. pichus is thinking
  295.  
  296. birbToday at 8:19 AM
  297. Whomst's ass did that come from
  298.  
  299. CatalysticToday at 8:19 AM
  300. ok
  301. that was a HIGH estimate i gave her
  302. and she STILL thinks it's broken
  303. like the argument is
  304.  
  305. pichusToday at 8:20 AM
  306. i just dont understand why I wouldnt want to draft the 2 best players who can build for 4/6 tiers for 45k
  307.  
  308. CatalysticToday at 8:20 AM
  309. uh
  310. i mean
  311.  
  312. birbToday at 8:20 AM
  313. Can I suggest someth
  314.  
  315. CatalysticToday at 8:20 AM
  316. ye
  317.  
  318. birbToday at 8:20 AM
  319. The easy solution here is 1 manager teams
  320. That way nobody can stack the deck
  321.  
  322. CatalysticToday at 8:21 AM
  323. what if someone wants a co
  324. wait
  325. do most premier leagues
  326. have a co
  327.  
  328. birbToday at 8:21 AM
  329. They can select a co from their pool of players
  330. It depends
  331. DPL didn't, MPL does, UPL...kinda did?
  332.  
  333. pichusToday at 8:21 AM
  334. this
  335. makes more sense
  336.  
  337. CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
  338. MPL is dual
  339. UPL is dual
  340.  
  341. pichusToday at 8:22 AM
  342. because now the top players arent 100% gonna be on the same team
  343.  
  344. CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
  345. NUPL is single
  346.  
  347. birbToday at 8:22 AM
  348. It's mixed basically
  349.  
  350. CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
  351. bro
  352.  
  353. birbToday at 8:22 AM
  354. and my perception is in tiers where the skill gap is higher 1 manager works better
  355.  
  356. CatalysticToday at 8:22 AM
  357. sure
  358. that works
  359.  
  360. pichusToday at 8:22 AM
  361. okay fine so
  362. 1 manager per team
  363. and they pick one co from their team after the draft
  364. ok?
  365.  
  366. CatalysticToday at 8:23 AM
  367. i mean
  368. they can
  369. they have the o p t i o n to
  370. @PurpleGatorade guess we're not co managing
  371.  
  372. birbToday at 8:23 AM
  373. Or alternatively they can also pick a co-manager who won't play
  374. Maybe
  375. nah too convoluted
  376.  
  377. CatalysticToday at 8:23 AM
  378. nah fuck that
  379. or
  380. u can call them
  381. an AssMan
  382. it's fine
  383. since @pichus ehre
  384. relaly thinks skarph + zen is broken as fuck
  385. watch as zen drafts skarph for 22.5k
  386. LMAO
  387. i'd laugh
  388.  
  389. pichusToday at 8:25 AM
  390. yeah but atleast they arent 100% gonna be on the same team
  391.  
  392. birbToday at 8:25 AM
  393. if it's so broken
  394.  
  395. pichusToday at 8:25 AM
  396. since the other managers can pay more
  397.  
  398. birbToday at 8:25 AM
  399. pichus can upbid
  400.  
  401. CatalysticToday at 8:25 AM
  402. which i really think it isn't
  403.  
  404. birbToday at 8:25 AM
  405. to 67k
  406.  
  407. CatalysticToday at 8:25 AM
  408. u right.
  409. isn't it
  410. 59 k
  411.  
  412. birbToday at 8:25 AM
  413. w/e
  414. idk
  415.  
  416. pichusToday at 8:25 AM
  417. :[
  418. u guys are mean
  419.  
  420. birbToday at 8:25 AM
  421. yep
  422.  
  423. CatalysticToday at 8:26 AM
  424. who's hosting btw
  425.  
  426. pichusToday at 8:26 AM
  427. i dont care about winning or losing, i just dont want 3 stacked teams and 5 bad ones
  428.  
  429. CatalysticToday at 8:26 AM
  430. yea that won't happen dw
  431. actually
  432. @pichus
  433. that'll probably happen
  434. people are
  435. REALLY bad at drafting
  436.  
  437. SkarphToday at 11:27 AM
  438. i'd like to manage but zen and I alrdy talked about this and aren't gonna be on the same team
  439. also i was thinking about how it kinda
  440. sucks to play and manage
  441. like basically you get to make any decision you want and that's final, like.... OH I CAN JUST CHOOSE MYSELF FOR EVERY USUM BO3 SLOT, gG
  442. basically that
  443. but
  444. i guess the easy solution is to
  445. not do that
  446. like having yourself and a co-manager play every week, even if you think it's the best thing for the team just...will seem corrupt
  447. i also agree on the gen 5 thing
  448. i was thinking that'll turn into a huge meme that you'll put your players in who need to get some playing time
  449. unless we can find 10 people who know how to play that shit
  450.  
  451. Mr. BeanToday at 12:02 PM
  452. It doesn’t seem corrupt
  453. And it works in other PLs
  454. Like in PUPL we had managers know they were worth and we had managers who didn’t buy themselves and nobody’s hung up on it
  455. Also no gen 5
  456.  
  457. SkarphToday at 12:08 PM
  458. ok
  459. i dont really get how the managers are gonna have to buy themselves and how that price will be estimated but does that take place during the draft or what(edited)
  460. its not like the other managers can bid on another manager LOL i just really dk how we're supposed to say "yeah, that guy is 10k, 15k, 20k" and so on
  461.  
  462. Mr. BeanToday at 12:13 PM
  463. Well yeah I assume we’d do what every other setup does
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