01:54 - adders209: you are so fucking shit
01:54 - Anx: hahahahaha
01:54 - adders209: carried by op weapons
01:54 - adders209: fucking terrible
01:54 - Anx: don't say aloud the sniper is OP they'll laugh at you
01:54 - adders209: do you know what a headshot is?
01:54 - Anx: right calm down
01:55 - adders209: you do 80 damage a body shot and then 18 damage with pistol
01:55 - Anx: 75 actually
01:55 - adders209: then you switch to a shotgun
01:55 - adders209: why if you are a semi decent shot play shit like that?
01:56 - Anx: they're like close range snipers
01:56 - adders209: whats wrong with you?
01:56 - adders209: you know its fucking OP as shit
01:56 - Anx: The shotgun or the sniper?
02:02 - adders209: A
02:02 - Anx: what?
02:04 - adders209: i was alt tabbed
02:04 - adders209: and both
02:04 - adders209: they are both a joke weapon
02:04 - Anx: how come?
02:05 - adders209: are you joking?
02:05 - adders209: they dont require skill
02:05 - Anx: A sniper doesn't require skill?
02:05 - adders209: nope
02:05 - Anx: Aha
02:05 - adders209: not the way you do it
02:05 - adders209: body shot
02:05 - adders209: switch
02:05 - Anx: Hitting targets?
02:05 - adders209: pistol
02:05 - adders209: dead
02:06 - adders209: how hard is it to hit the body?/
02:06 - Anx: With the sniper? Depends
02:06 - Anx: If it's a fast merc, quite
02:06 - Anx: If it's Rhino, not so much
02:18 - adders209: its not hard
02:18 - adders209: at all
02:18 - Anx: I'm going to bed you did not even tried it
02:19 - adders209: i dont play stupid shit
02:19 - adders209: i play stuff that requires skill
02:19 - Anx: Like laying mines in the ground and spamming the best SMG in the game?
02:20 - adders209: mines are there for info they beep and make a really loud noise if you get killed by a mine then you are an idiot
02:20 - adders209: but yes mines to far too much damage
02:20 - adders209: i kill people just as well with the SMG9 and the blishlock
02:21 - Anx: All pretty spammy guns
02:21 - adders209: okay same with any none burst AR
02:21 - adders209: and the crozni
02:21 - adders209: bascially any AR or SMG that aint burst is playable to a high level for me
02:22 - adders209: but i like proxy becuase the health pool is low and the speed in fast but not sparks or aura fast
02:23 - adders209: its the most balanced merc besides bushwacker or phionix
02:23 - Anx: One of the most fun too
02:23 - adders209: without a shotgun yes
02:24 - Anx: Ah, or so you think
02:24 - Anx: How old are you, more or less?
02:24 - adders209: its not fun to 1 shot someone with a shotguns without a head shot
02:24 - adders209: guess
02:24 - Anx: 16
02:24 - adders209: 29
02:25 - adders209: i own my house and i have a little boy thats 3. ive been playing SD games since ET wolf and have been pro in ETQW
02:26 - adders209: so its frustrating as fuck to watch a nearly great game get butchered by the joke mercs that theyve put in the game and the comunity just plays OP shit
02:27 - Anx: regardless of your opinions, tone it down, nobody is going to take you seriously if you go screaming around
02:27 - adders209: i really couldnt care less about what other people think of me
02:27 - adders209: and its typing theres no screaming involved
02:27 - adders209: and its not an opinion
02:27 - adders209: its fact
02:28 - adders209: the fact is that people are crying about match making and balance but there cannot be balance with a game this broke with cheesy mercs getting cheesy frags
02:28 - adders209: making bad players look better than they are
02:29 - Anx: I think you are literally the first person I've heard complain about snipers
02:29 - adders209: so when it comes down to the algorithms its all messed up
02:29 - adders209: you are missing the point
02:29 - adders209: of course snipers are bad
02:30 - adders209: they are a joke
02:30 - adders209: but the fact that you can get so many easy frags with them without being good
02:30 - adders209: like we whitnessed you today
02:30 - adders209: then it makes you look better than you are
02:30 - Anx: to whom?
02:30 - adders209: to the algorithm
02:31 - adders209: that determines your mrr
02:31 - adders209: mmr*
02:31 - Anx: if I always play this mercs then what difference does it make>
02:31 - adders209: becuase skill is not just good aim
02:32 - adders209: in your case average aim
02:32 - adders209: though you wasnt that bad and watching for the flank
02:32 - adders209: but i feel most of that was the fact you could see me coming with your tracker
02:33 - adders209: tbh snipers aint the main issue
02:33 - adders209: shotguns and phantom are way way more of an issue
02:33 - Anx: It sounds more to me that you got killed a bit and had to make this whole story to justify it
02:33 - adders209: yeah
02:34 - adders209: thats what it is
02:34 - adders209: forget the fact that i smashed your KD pretty much every game plus got way more gold badges but yeah lets just pretend im making this whole thing up
02:35 - Anx: Don't be so defensive, I'm not here to get you
02:36 - adders209: i just want people to understand that there is a real issue with the game and it will die faster than brink if they dont fix it
02:36 - adders209: its an FPS where melee damage does more than guns
02:37 - adders209: its an FPS where shotguns 1 shot people without headshots
02:37 - adders209: its an FPS without any shooting ffs
02:37 - Anx: You know you are not supposed to fire a shotgun at the head right?
02:37 - adders209: these tools should be an aid for you to get the edge in a firefight not do the fucking job for you
02:38 - adders209: thats exactly my point
02:38 - Anx: No, you don't get it
02:38 - adders209: no i do
02:38 - Anx: A shotgun fires pellets you need to aim center mass
02:38 - adders209: theres no mulitplyer and you hit more pelets in the body
02:39 - adders209: dont you see an issue with that?
02:39 - Anx: It's just moving the highest damage spot a bit down
02:39 - Anx: Yes and no
02:39 - Anx: If you hit there you do all the damage
02:39 - Anx: but if you move slightly away from there
02:39 - Anx: damage drops
02:39 - Anx: think of it this way
02:39 - adders209: i know how the shotgun works
02:40 - Anx: An AR deals the same damage anywhere in the body
02:40 - Anx: A shotgun will only deal good damage at the center
02:40 - adders209: i know how the weapons work
02:40 - adders209: thats the issue with shotguns
02:40 - adders209: you should have to aim for the head
02:40 - adders209: regardless of gun
02:41 - Anx: if the shotguns had the spread tight enough so headshots were optimal
02:41 - Anx: Then they'd be insanely strong
02:41 - Anx: Much more so that you say they are now
02:41 - adders209: not if they had the mulitiplier
02:41 - adders209: and lowered the body damage
02:42 - adders209: in ETQW
02:42 - adders209: your knife did 15 damage and same with the defib
02:42 - adders209: and everyone had 100hp
02:43 - adders209: the pistol did 35 damage headshot and 12 damage body
02:43 - adders209: and the ARs where pretty much the same
02:44 - adders209: and shotguns where good with headshots and unplayable if you missed they where a meme
02:44 - adders209: so why the fuck has this game gone so OTT the other way and fucking up its own balance?
02:45 - Anx: Right then, what'd you change?
02:45 - adders209: delete phantom
02:45 - adders209: reduce melee damage by 80%
02:46 - adders209: including defibs and the objective thing
02:46 - adders209: finally lower none aoe damage explosives
02:47 - adders209: maybe keep fraggers nade the same
02:47 - Anx: I don't really get why you dislike melee so much
02:47 - adders209: and give a mulitplier to javlins rocket on objectives
02:47 - adders209: the same reason why i dont like shotguns
02:49 - adders209: sparks runs at you with a cricket bat takes 4 headshots to drop her with the hocfier
02:49 - adders209: but slaps you with a bat and its too much
02:49 - adders209: same with kira
02:49 - adders209: and obviouly the joke that in phantom
02:50 - Anx: you make the first two sounds like a much bigger problem that they are, it doesn't happen frequently at all
02:50 - adders209: and hunter gardian and anyone else that has a shitty OP melee weapon
02:51 - adders209: melee damage is probaly the worst thing about the game. the fact that it can happen like it often does is the issue
02:51 - adders209: people actually go out of their way to run at you and beat you with a bat or sword
02:51 - adders209: and it hits more that 1 person
02:51 - adders209: its a joke
02:52 - adders209: let me explain to you why its such a big issue and this stands for all that ive mentioned.
02:52 - Anx: if someone can run at you with a bat and hit you before you kill them... yeah you probably deserved that
02:52 - adders209: my KD on average is about 3-1
02:53 - adders209: now this phantom i know barely breaks even his average is 1v1
02:53 - adders209: hes terrible
02:53 - adders209: now 4/5 times
02:53 - adders209: this phantom will run at me
02:53 - adders209: and will kill me
02:53 - adders209: sorry
02:53 - adders209: 1/5 times
02:54 - adders209: now only with his sword
02:54 - adders209: but 100% of the time when hes on his nader he loses every 1v1
02:55 - adders209: so somehow hes got a kill on me
02:55 - adders209: this 1 death. greatly increases his posision in the matchmaking
02:56 - adders209: becuase "im higher skilled" and hes managed to kill me 1 out of 5 times with a sword
02:57 - adders209: his profile is raised. and he goes higher in the mmr. how hes terrible like i said he cant aim for shit. 0 game sense 0 awearness and just a empty spot in his teams roster
02:59 - adders209: im really tired im not explaining this right, short version. he gets cheesy free kills on players who are better which makes him out in the game to be better than he is
02:59 - adders209: and instead of playing with people on his level bringing balance
02:59 - adders209: he sneaks into a higher bracket and is a joke
03:00 - adders209: thats the issue with melee damage, shotguns, explosive damage (including mines) and snipers that dont land headshots
03:01 - Anx: You are giving the MMR system too much credit
03:01 - Anx: I doubt it tracks who you kill
03:01 - Anx: Just how many points you got
03:01 - adders209: no im not thats litreally the algorithm
03:01 - adders209: KD accuracy and wins vs losses
03:02 - adders209: and yes it tracks who you kill
03:02 - adders209: it does it though the badges, unstopable stopped ect
03:03 - Anx: Eitherway all of that sounds very nice, but the unbalance I see daily are caused because LVL100 go up against LVL5
03:03 - Anx: And I highly doubt the algorithm believes they're equal
03:04 - Anx: Most of those players are still playing Skyhammer and requesting ammo...
03:04 - adders209: level means nothing is most cases im level 33 but theres not many people who will beat me in a fair 1v1
03:04 - Anx: It means nothing up to a point
03:04 - Anx: If you are really really low level chances are you are not going to do well
03:06 - Anx: And while you're not bad, you're not as good as you think you are I'm afraid
03:06 - Anx: Running up against a sniper controlled area
03:06 - Anx: Getting hit
03:06 - Anx: Then rushing in low on health
03:06 - Anx: Is just asking to get killed
03:07 - Anx: You can twist it as much as you want
03:07 - Anx: But it's not smart playing
03:07 - adders209: did you see me get long spawned?
03:07 - Anx: I saw you doing nothing over and over
03:07 - Anx: You could argue that downtime was minimum
03:08 - Anx: But it was still not very useful
03:08 - adders209: or i could argue that id already killed 2-3 of your team before getting to you
03:08 - Anx: We both know what I mean
03:08 - Anx: You just got out of spawn
03:08 - Anx: Crossed the main street
03:09 - Anx: Got shot
03:09 - Anx: Run through the tunnels
03:09 - adders209: look believe what you want. if you think im not that good fine. i know im not the best. but im easily in the top 10%
03:09 - Anx: Just to get the deag
03:09 - Anx: Nope
03:09 - adders209: well what was elite last season?
03:10 - Anx: Ah? What do you mean?
03:11 - adders209: i mean what % of people got eleit in DB?
03:11 - adders209: elite*
03:11 - Anx: Ah in ranked? Did people even play that?
03:11 - adders209: okay night, cba with this. ive explained all that i can. use what youve learnt or dont
03:12 - Anx: You've got more learn I'm afraid
03:12 - adders209: yep always something to leanr
03:12 - adders209: but not from you
03:12 - adders209: im better
03:13 - Anx: That's why you kept getting killed by the Deag
03:13 - adders209: i belive my KD was better in every match and most of your kills on me i wasnt even aiming at you
03:14 - Anx: I watched the endscores and yeah, not
03:15 - Anx: It's really not my fault if you're not watching either
03:15 - Anx: What do you want, warning shots?
03:15 - adders209: i was watching, i just had other people to kill first
03:15 - Anx: You might need to learn what targets to prioritize. Or when to engage
03:16 - adders209: you are not better than me haha, if you ever want proof we can sort that out. you can even bring your 0 headshot amiee
03:16 - adders209: again
03:16 - adders209: my KD>your KD
03:16 - adders209: in the losing team with a better KD
03:16 - adders209: thats just embarrissing and you had all them free kills
03:17 - Anx: It's so embarrasing that you were the one that kept on flaiming
03:17 - Anx: To the point that you added me just to continue doing so
03:17 - Anx: Not sure how I survived that shame
03:18 - Anx: Only being first of both teams, winning matches, and despite what you are saying, yes getting more kills and less deaths than you
03:18 - Anx: But let's just blame the sniper for that
03:18 - Anx: It's easier to justify for yourself isn't it
03:19 - Anx: And I love I just love how much do you talk about headshots
03:19 - Anx: When I am sure you were getting
03:19 - Anx: None
03:19 - Anx: I know the TTK of that gun
03:19 - Anx: You were not getting headshots
03:19 - Anx: It drops people like flies if you do
03:19 - Anx: And that was just not happening
03:20 - Anx: But let's blame the sniper for that one as well