#soletstalkthen , continued

(9:37:09 PM) amaranthineSwell [[email protected]] entered the room.
(9:37:49 PM) amaranthineSwell: Ping, ventricularPipefitter.
(9:43:04 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You called?
(9:43:27 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'm not dead.
(9:43:31 PM) amaranthineSwell: Fucking Rooks.
(9:44:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Excellent.
(9:44:23 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And, yes.
(9:44:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Fuck them.
(9:45:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: With rusty implements of /pain/.
(9:49:28 PM) amaranthineSwell: So.
(9:49:44 PM) amaranthineSwell: We got interrupted a few nights ago.
(9:49:58 PM) amaranthineSwell: Or last night for the servers.
(9:50:11 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yep.
(9:51:02 PM) amaranthineSwell: Figure we should keep talking about things.
(9:51:24 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No reason not to, and lots of reasons to. Githra was in earlier and -- oh bugger on more lich
(9:52:01 PM) amaranthineSwell: You should take care of that.
(9:59:22 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And now I have.
(9:59:48 PM) amaranthineSwell: Good to hear.
(10:00:59 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Githra was on again this morning, she's doing...well. Tears on her land further receding.
(10:01:09 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... well.
(10:01:18 PM) amaranthineSwell: There's /that/, at least.
(10:01:43 PM) amaranthineSwell: P'Shor's taking care of her.  ... as best a horrorterror /can/.
(10:01:48 PM) ***amaranthineSwell hisses.
(10:03:00 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ah. I see you're accquainted, then.
(10:03:11 PM) amaranthineSwell: Unfortunately.
(10:04:39 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'v had words with the Mother of Daymares.
(10:04:42 PM) amaranthineSwell: *I've
(10:05:30 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mmn.
(10:05:59 PM) amaranthineSwell: I've had words with her when I /wanted/ to be talking to Githra.
(10:06:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: It was a less than pleasant encounter.
(10:06:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I can imagine, and empathize.
(10:06:26 PM) amaranthineSwell: But that's neither here nor there.
(10:06:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Indeed.
(10:06:40 PM) amaranthineSwell: So.
(10:06:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I don't quite have the, ah, cultural context. But we seem to be equally unhappy about this arrangement. So.
(10:06:56 PM) amaranthineSwell: Ask me about it later.
(10:07:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'll fill you in.
(10:07:12 PM) amaranthineSwell: But until then, we should talk about another arrangement.
(10:07:42 PM) amaranthineSwell: Namely, between the two of us.
(10:07:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Aye.
(10:09:02 PM) amaranthineSwell: So.
(10:09:21 PM) ventricularPipefitter: We use that word a lot.
(10:09:31 PM) amaranthineSwell: Usually as a stalling tactic.
(10:09:34 PM) amaranthineSwell: Or to brace ourselves.
(10:09:38 PM) amaranthineSwell: Or both.
(10:09:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Or to punctuate.
(10:09:58 PM) amaranthineSwell: First off.
(10:10:05 PM) amaranthineSwell: I need to swallow my own damn pride a bit.
(10:10:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: [>Ross: decaptcha the carafe. ]
(10:10:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Every so often, it's good for us.
(10:10:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Because I'll admit that I haven't made this very easy for you.
(10:11:32 PM) amaranthineSwell: 'Specially with you not having the background.
(10:13:53 PM) ventricularPipefitter: This could have been /easier/, you say? Well. Perhaps it's reassuring to know I've been thrown in the deep end.
(10:14:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: [>Ross: Frown. That idiom may not translate.]
(10:14:25 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm?
(10:14:59 PM) ventricularPipefitter: The deep end of the....trolls probably don't do swimming pools. Thrown in over my head.
(10:15:07 PM) amaranthineSwell: Oh.
(10:15:10 PM) amaranthineSwell: Yes.
(10:15:11 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well.
(10:15:21 PM) amaranthineSwell: You could have picked a less...
(10:15:29 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... whatever-the-hell I am.
(10:15:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: As an ashmate.
(10:16:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Wasn't precisely aware that I was picking you, was I? Eh.
(10:16:26 PM) amaranthineSwell: And my baiting you in public, while perhaps sometimes appropriate, is not always helpful.
(10:16:41 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Never hurts to open up your mouth and /actually say/ what's got you upset.
(10:16:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:16:49 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Rather than expecting me to be a mind-reader.
(10:18:16 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'm aware.
(10:19:18 PM) amaranthineSwell: And yes, I know that being Sand and a cagey bastard isn't an excuse.
(10:20:18 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No more than it is for my sister, and she's actually playing it right now.
(10:20:28 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:20:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: I can try.
(10:22:19 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I get to know you better I'll get better at reading more varieties of your bullshit.
(10:22:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: [>Ross: Sip your thermos.]
(10:22:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: You've already proven /that/.
(10:23:16 PM) amaranthineSwell: Fucking time-traveling ashmates.
(10:23:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You love it.
(10:23:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You'll miss it when I'm not.
(10:23:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Hmph.
(10:23:51 PM) amaranthineSwell: You can't prove a thing.
(10:24:23 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I don't have to when time will vindicate me. But, we're off-topic.
(10:24:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: We are.
(10:25:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What's the topic again?
(10:25:14 PM) amaranthineSwell: Our auspistism.
(10:25:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: And I'll try to take it easy on you - well, easier, I don't want to make your job cushy - but I'll give you what you need to know how to be a proper ashen partner.  For my part, you can at least know that I'm in your corner when you're right, and I'll call you on it when you're wrong.
(10:30:22 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Hah. You like fighting for your own.
(10:31:10 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And as for the second part of that -- call me out, in private, can you? For all this place could be better run -- actually, as it happens, we're discussing moderators again and I'd be curious to know who you might rec. -- it's. Well. It's a matter of face, yes. But also of presenting..hmn. Not a unified front. Looking for the right words here. Stability. Not quite it either.
(10:32:31 PM) amaranthineSwell: Solidarity.
(10:32:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Thank you.
(10:33:04 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:33:06 PM) amaranthineSwell: You're welcome.
(10:33:24 PM) ventricularPipefitter: This has to look like a a place that hangs together. (And if it looks like one, it can act like one, and that keeps people around.)
(10:33:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: And then you become the mask.
(10:33:56 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... which isn't a bad thing, in this case.
(10:34:06 PM) amaranthineSwell: But.
(10:34:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: Like I said earlier.
(10:34:26 PM) amaranthineSwell: Baiting you in public isn't always appropriate.
(10:35:40 PM) amaranthineSwell: But.
(10:35:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: 'Preciate that acknowledgement. But?
(10:35:59 PM) amaranthineSwell: But you need to figure out your patterns.
(10:36:18 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Patterns of?
(10:36:55 PM) amaranthineSwell: I know it was hurtful, but- you /do/ hurt people with what you say sometimes, Ross.  You need to stop doing that, and if that means I have to take drastic measures to get your shit straightened out, I sure as hell will.
(10:39:43 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I may have a pattern.
(10:40:32 PM) amaranthineSwell: How many times did you do it to me?
(10:42:28 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Over the course of a single argument or--look, *yes*, I know what you're talking about.
(10:43:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: You're getting defensive.
(10:43:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I am.
(10:44:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: Why?
(10:46:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: [>Ross: Grimace, Chew on your lid's handle. Wish Aelf was online.]
(10:48:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Because I don't /like/ thinking about the fact that I /hurt/ /people/?
(10:48:49 PM) amaranthineSwell: Ignoring the problem and not thinking about it won't /fix/ anything.
(10:49:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: Listen, Ross.
(10:49:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: When you keep doing things like this, it makes a /pattern/ and a /habit/.  You need to cut that shit out.
(10:51:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: [Think, but don't type, "It makes me a bad Smith." ]
(10:52:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I don't think I'm ready to keep talking about this with you right now.
(10:52:53 PM) amaranthineSwell: Alright.
(10:52:55 PM) amaranthineSwell: That's fair.
(10:53:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: And I'll respect that.
(10:53:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: But /find/ /someone/ to talk to about this.
(10:53:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I know exactly who.
(10:53:43 PM) amaranthineSwell: Good.
(10:53:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Then talk to them.
(10:54:26 PM) amaranthineSwell: Because you're /better/ than what's happened.
(10:55:20 PM) ventricularPipefitter: How do you figure?
(10:55:55 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Belay that. I don't need to fish for compliments from you.
(10:56:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Would your clade have put up with you if you didn't have redeeming qualities?
(10:59:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Funny thing about family is they're more obligated to put up with your shit than anybody else, and often biased by dint of long association as to how tolerable you really are.
(11:00:03 PM) ventricularPipefitter: But I take your meaning.
(11:00:32 PM) ***amaranthineSwell rolls his eyes.
(11:00:50 PM) amaranthineSwell: What about your 'sprit, then?
(11:04:23 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Just go ahead and win the argument already.
(11:04:35 PM) ***amaranthineSwell grins.
(11:04:58 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Oh God you look unbearably smug right now.
(11:05:10 PM) amaranthineSwell: You can't prove a coddamn fin.
(11:05:30 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're /fish-punning/
(11:05:52 PM) amaranthineSwell: And?
(11:06:42 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Pleased with yourself. And particularly comfortable.
(11:07:33 PM) amaranthineSwell: This spaceship gonna land?
(11:07:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You are /so/ smug and I know you well enough to know it.
(11:08:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: So?
(11:08:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So, what? I'm just making declarative statements of fact.
(11:08:57 PM) ***amaranthineSwell snickers.
(11:09:14 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Go have a victory beignet. Or did you like the deep-fried twinkie better?
(11:09:45 PM) amaranthineSwell: Those were from you?
(11:10:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Those are traditional Southern artery-cloggers, yes indeed.
(11:11:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: Huh.
(11:11:04 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well.
(11:11:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: They were completely delicious.
(11:12:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: 'Course they were.
(11:12:59 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Though I generally favor a little less powdered sugar on mine.
(11:13:09 PM) amaranthineSwell: What?  Nah, they had the perfect amount.
(11:14:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're going to die of diabetes.
(11:14:43 PM) amaranthineSwell: Of what now?
(11:15:16 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter laughs. Don't you worry, with the way trolls eat I doubt its actually a problem.
(11:15:38 PM) amaranthineSwell: There's nothing wrong with the way we eat.
(11:15:40 PM) amaranthineSwell: Hmph.
(11:18:19 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No, but humans run better with fewer refined sugars and more vegetables, s'all.
(11:19:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: An omnivorous heritage.
(11:19:29 PM) amaranthineSwell: Do those even taste good?
(11:19:41 PM) amaranthineSwell: 'Cuz I can tell you that seaweed does /not/ do anything for me.
(11:21:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Hmn. Skip the salad. Definitely try the collard greens or good green beans with a little bacon for seasoning. Maybe the starchier stuff...
(11:21:53 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I can probably find something you'd like.
(11:21:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If I put enough sugar on it.
(11:22:14 PM) amaranthineSwell: I eat things without sugar!
(11:22:36 PM) amaranthineSwell: Like... like fish.
(11:22:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Like *raw* fish.
(11:22:58 PM) amaranthineSwell: Hey, don't knock it.
(11:23:09 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Eh, sushi's all right.
(11:23:16 PM) amaranthineSwell: Sushi?
(11:25:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: prime cuts of raw fish served with rice what's been...eh they do something to it to make it stick together. A little sugar and a mild vinegar? Traditional human way to serve raw fish in lots of little bite-size pieces.
(11:25:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well that's dumb.
(11:25:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: Just eat the fish straight up.
(11:25:56 PM) amaranthineSwell: If you cut it all apart you lose the flavor from the head and bones.
(11:27:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Sardines are nice that way, but for anything bigger I'd rather use it for soup stock.
(11:28:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: Eh.
(11:28:11 PM) amaranthineSwell: If you say so.
(11:28:27 PM) amaranthineSwell: Li usually liked it better if I made soup of 'em.
(11:36:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What else would you put in it?
(11:36:48 PM) amaranthineSwell: Vegetables, if I had the money or was fast enough to nick 'em.
(11:37:04 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mostly seaweed, bluh.
(11:37:18 PM) amaranthineSwell: Bones of landdwelling animals.
(11:38:08 PM) ***amaranthineSwell shrugs.
(11:38:13 PM) amaranthineSwell: Odds and ends.
(11:39:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Our sessions in a...weird place culinarily. Get someone to make you good beef stew. Or chili con carne, if you're so vegetable adverse.
(11:41:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(11:41:07 PM) amaranthineSwell: You'll have to let me know if someone does.
(11:42:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mn.
(11:42:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So. I mentioned it in passing. Moderators.
(11:43:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: Looking at the wrong troll here.
(11:43:30 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Anyone comes to mind you think'd be fit, pass word along.
(11:43:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You've got too much temper and bias for it.
(11:43:54 PM) ***amaranthineSwell snorts.
(11:44:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: I could have glubbing told you that.
(11:44:21 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Exactly.
(11:44:55 PM) amaranthineSwell: If you promoted me to a moderator I'd have to check to make sure your last panbit hadn't run screaming into the Ring.
(11:46:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No need to check, really.
(11:46:56 PM) amaranthineSwell: That's right.
(11:47:02 PM) amaranthineSwell: Can't lose what you don't have, after all.
(11:48:59 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Hey.
(11:49:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I keep those safely locked away somewhere they can't rattle around inside my skull.
(11:49:40 PM) ***amaranthineSwell snorts.
(11:50:23 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well.
(11:50:34 PM) amaranthineSwell: I can hear more Dersite troops.
(11:50:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: Fuck the Black Queen for coming to the Battlefield, I mean /seriously/.
(11:50:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Aw Hell's Bells.
(11:51:07 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I wondered what was taking you so long.
(11:51:39 PM) amaranthineSwell: I can't fight /anything/ head-on.
(11:52:06 PM) amaranthineSwell: She's sitting right next to the King, too.
(11:52:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Cute. Status of WV's rebellion?
(11:54:32 PM) amaranthineSwell: Uh.
(11:55:03 PM) amaranthineSwell: It isn't.
(11:55:12 PM) ventricularPipefitter: About what I figured. Thought I'd ask.
(11:55:34 PM) ventricularPipefitter: He doesn't even trigger in every session, anyhow.
(11:56:01 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well, no.  He would have, I think, if the agents hadn't gotten him first.
(11:58:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mn.
(11:59:15 PM) amaranthineSwell: Exactly.
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(12:05:49 AM) amaranthineSwell: And this is a beautiful fresh hell.
(12:05:58 AM) amaranthineSwell: I'll have to talk to you later.
(12:06:03 AM) ***amaranthineSwell disconnects from the memo!