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- [02:00:43] Inawordyes [438ea41b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.142.164.27] has joined ##ursoul
- [02:00:46] <Daiton> Hm I don't think me acting more like I do in real life is making me any friends on the main channel.
- [02:01:23] <Daiton> Also you just posted the channel name on the main channel.
- [02:02:31] <Inawordyes> Daiton: I didn't mean too
- [02:02:47] <DarkShuyin> wb
- [02:02:47] <Inawordyes> I know, though, that this is going to cause problems
- [02:02:52] <Inawordyes> thanks
- [02:03:19] <@Crono|Sleep> Aj
- [02:03:26] <@Crono|Sleep> greetings
- [02:03:36] <@Crono|Sleep> Are you ready to answer some questions now? Like, srsly?
- [02:04:00] <Inawordyes> I have the time now
- [02:05:36] <Inawordyes> So, possibly
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> 20:11:51] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> Is the setting of AFE2 the same as AFE1?
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:11:54] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> Like, locations?
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:12:11] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> Also, can we modify Haven? The whole "bubble city in the city connected by the Lifestream" is kind of ...eh
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:12:29] <Inawordyes> Lifestream? Where did that come from?
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:12:51] <DarkShuyin> Same setting
- [02:06:57] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:12:51] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> And which direction is this story taking? Do you have some set-up plot, or is it make-it-up-as-you-go-along (aka, the Nomura syndrome)?
- [02:08:55] <Inawordyes> I was about to ask if you were going to ask me
- [02:08:55] <Inawordyes> any
- [02:08:55] <Inawordyes> 1) Yes. As I've explained many times, AFE2 is a reimagining of the original AFE. It is moreso a change in the system used to handle the story, over the actually story itself
- [02:09:39] <Inawordyes> 2) As I said, Haven isn't just in the sky for no reason (if you remember, I came up with an explanation for it in the original AFE Discussion subpage). However, the way it is is through technology, and it is more like lightbeams rather than a Lifestream-type deal
- [02:09:57] <@Crono|Sleep> still, I really don't like it, but whatever
- [02:10:14] <@Crono|Sleep> especially since many characters (most, actually) seem to have their gaidens originate in Haven
- [02:10:36] <Daiton> Because Haven's badass
- [02:10:42] <Inawordyes> 3) It is a mixture of both. The basic story/backstory is already pretty thought out, but the actually story that is being written is never set out in stone, which is why it is a fan-fic
- [02:10:42] <DarkShuyin> What modes of transportation are there?
- [02:10:48] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:22:00] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> I mean, is it "party saves the world from domination from an evil dictator", "liberates the world from an evil empire", or "finds out a shadowy organization behind many countries and stops them"?
- [02:11:21] <@Crono|Sleep> [20:22:18] <@SC|CoDBlackOps> The first option being Sephiroth, second being Palamecia, third being Shinra
- [02:11:39] <Inawordyes> 4) It is a mixture of all three. All three have a part to play in the story, and in some cases, two may be running parallel to eachother, one more pronounced, and the other more subtle Bheind-The-Scenes
- [02:11:55] <Daiton> What will be the basic plot.
- [02:11:59] <@Crono|Sleep> Having a story set in stone =/= Having a central theme
- [02:12:26] <Inawordyes> What does =/= mean?
- [02:12:36] <Inawordyes> It's one of the things I haven't figured out yet
- [02:12:38] <Daiton> does not equal
- [02:13:12] <Inawordyes> hmm
- [02:14:31] <Inawordyes> Any other questions?
- [02:14:59] <@Crono|Sleep> um
- [02:15:05] <@Crono|Sleep> are there prosthetics?
- [02:15:11] <NeoZEROX> What we talking about?
- [02:15:21] <Inawordyes> Do you think there are?
- [02:15:22] <@Crono|Sleep> I kind of gave a character some cuz you up and left, but I can change it if you say no
- [02:15:27] <@Crono|Sleep> *some already
- [02:15:29] <DarkShuyin> Neo:We're asking AJ questions
- [02:15:39] <Daiton> PLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOTPLOT
- [02:15:46] <DarkShuyin> Personally I think you should leave it
- [02:16:07] <@Crono|Sleep> ...so...your answer, AJ?
- [02:16:27] <Daiton> How close are we to starting the story?
- [02:16:40] <@Crono|Sleep> that's my next question, actually
- [02:17:09] <Inawordyes> Something like that isn't that important. There were primitive prosthetics in use during the Middle Ages, and since each Country represents a different time period, it isn't that major of an issue
- [02:17:34] <Inawordyes> The story begins once you think it's ready to begin
- [02:18:11] <@Crono|Sleep> ....*sigh*
- [02:18:15] <Daiton> What modes of transportations are there?
- [02:18:20] <@Crono|Sleep> We really, really need some leadership here, man.
- [02:18:27] <@Crono|Sleep> None of this vague Jedi bull.
- [02:19:12] <Inawordyes> Crono|Sleep: I use subtlety. I give off hints, give clues. I don't answer questions directly
- [02:19:28] <@Crono|Sleep> answering questions directly is exactly what we NEED you to do now.
- [02:19:45] <@Crono|Sleep> We're trying to organize this fic so it doesn't crash and burn like old AFE, and this isn't really helping much.
- [02:19:59] <Daiton> WHAT MODES OF TRANSPORTATIONS ARE THERE!
- [02:20:00] <Inawordyes> And you're saying that you know more about my idea than I do, therefore making you qualified to become the leader?
- [02:20:04] <@Crono|Sleep> And I really, really don't think I'm the only one ticked off at this.
- [02:20:12] <DarkShuyin> We're trying to help but we need information
- [02:20:23] <DarkShuyin> We need answers ,AJ
- [02:20:29] <@Crono|Sleep> No, I'm saying I want - no, need you to start answering questions directly, otherwise we wouldn't ask you.
- [02:20:42] <DarkShuyin> ah
- [02:21:04] <@Crono|Sleep> Just...answer Dai's question plz/
- [02:21:06] <@Crono|Sleep> *.
- [02:21:06] <Inawordyes> Daiton: Different kinds, depending on the country. Wrangler, set in a Western-type, would have caravans and horse, while Haven, the futuristic-type, has hover vehicles, or something-of-the-like
- [02:21:10] <Inawordyes> I was
- [02:21:12] <@Crono|Sleep> THANK YOU.
- [02:21:30] <Inawordyes> It takes time to write out a response, TYVM
- [02:22:02] <@Crono|Sleep> np
- [02:22:08] <Inawordyes> >_>
- [02:22:24] <@Crono|Sleep> [02:16:27] <Daiton> How close are we to starting the story? <-- this too?
- [02:23:02] <Inawordyes> Do you guys think the there's enough here to begin the story?
- [02:23:18] <@Crono|Sleep> Not really, no.
- [02:23:21] <@Crono|Sleep> Not everything is done.
- [02:23:31] <Inawordyes> Then there is no reason to begin the story now
- [02:23:32] <@Crono|Sleep> I wanted to know if you had a time frame in mind, or an ultimatim.
- [02:23:36] <@Crono|Sleep> *ultimatum
- [02:24:03] <Inawordyes> That's why I'm here trying to get most of it wrinkled out, so that we have something to present from the get-go, unlike AFE1
- [02:24:50] <@Crono|Sleep> which is why I asked if you had some story in mind
- [02:24:57] <@Crono|Sleep> even something simple, like one event
- [02:25:08] <@Crono|Sleep> Thresher is being seiged. That'd be a great place to start.
- [02:25:18] <Inawordyes> I want to start the story when he have something to begin with
- [02:25:24] <Inawordyes> We can start there, but is that all we have?
- [02:25:25] <Daiton> When in doubt go to tvtropes and look up plot.
- [02:25:38] <Inawordyes> Ooh, links please?
- [02:26:06] <@Crono|Sleep> Using TV Tropes is okay, but please, let's not make a story of tropes. >>
- [02:26:26] <Inawordyes> I don't want to
- [02:26:35] <Daiton> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Plotshttp://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Plots
- [02:26:49] <Inawordyes> Okay, so Thresher is being seiged. Is that all we have ATM?
- [02:26:56] <@Crono|Sleep> ...yeah, I guess
- [02:27:01] <@Crono|Sleep> I mean, I just pulled that out of my ass
- [02:28:05] <Inawordyes> ...
- [02:28:07] <Inawordyes> Really?
- [02:28:13] <DarkShuyin> Its a start
- [02:28:33] <Daiton> How is Tresher being seiged and by What?
- [02:28:41] <Inawordyes> ^
- [02:28:53] <Inawordyes> Since it is your idea SIlver
- [02:29:52] <Daiton> No it's was stated that it was being seiged on the locations page.
- [02:30:17] <DarkShuyin> http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Alius_Fabula_Exertus/Locations
- [02:30:40] <Inawordyes> oh
- [02:30:45] <Inawordyes> hmm
- [02:31:03] <@Crono|Sleep> um.
- [02:31:05] <@Crono|Sleep> okay.
- [02:31:07] <Daiton> Is it by the astros?
- [02:31:13] <@Crono|Sleep> Let's just say a large mafia attack.
- [02:31:18] <Daiton> Or another nation?
- [02:31:20] <@Crono|Sleep> ...yeah, they recruited some astros, too.
- [02:31:25] <@Crono|Sleep> No no, not politics yet.
- [02:31:53] <@Crono|Sleep> Anyway, Thresher is being seiged, and...Sapphire's army is moving to intercept and save the country. Maybe lay down marshal law.
- [02:31:54] <Inawordyes> Crono|Sleep: Your idea has many plotholes in it
- [02:32:00] <@Crono|Sleep> Nobody really knows why ye-huh?
- [02:32:01] <Inawordyes> The first part, anyways
- [02:32:07] <@Crono|Sleep> how so?
- [02:32:29] <Daiton> How did they recruite astros?
- [02:32:42] <@Crono|Sleep> um...
- [02:32:47] <@Crono|Sleep> ...okay, no astros
- [02:32:54] <@Crono|Sleep> Just mafia
- [02:32:59] <@Crono|Sleep> A huge mercernary army
- [02:33:04] <Inawordyes> [02:31] <@Crono|Sleep> Let's just say a large mafia attack. - I don't even know how the Mafia factors in yet. They weren't even factored into the AFE1; [02:31] <@Crono|Sleep> ...yeah, they recruited some astros, too. - The astros are not what you belieive them to be
- [02:33:08] <@Crono|Sleep> And let's say, earlier, somebody made a...no, no
- [02:33:13] <@Crono|Sleep> forget what I said earlier
- [02:33:19] <Daiton> Or did the astros attack and then a gang war spring up across thresher?
- [02:33:26] <@Crono|Sleep> Civil war.
- [02:33:27] <@Crono|Sleep> that's it.
- [02:33:36] <Inawordyes> Daiton: The Astros are not what you believe them to be
- [02:33:46] <@Crono|Sleep> There is a big civil war, and the various gangs all thought it was a good idea to take some turf.
- [02:34:00] <@Crono|Sleep> So while there is this big revolution going on, the streets are extremely dangerous.
- [02:34:23] <@Crono|Sleep> Uproar is everywhere, and every other country is leaving Thresher to its devices. After all, it's the worst overall of the countries.
- [02:34:27] <@Crono|Sleep> ...that good?
- [02:34:41] <Daiton> Good start
- [02:34:56] <DarkShuyin> Why is there a civil war??
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- [02:35:13] <Inawordyes> it's good Silver
- [02:36:02] <NeoZEROX> What this about a civil war?
- [02:36:16] <Daiton> Thresher is in what country?
- [02:37:08] <Daiton> Ok it is a country.
- [02:37:13] <@Crono|Sleep> I thought Thresher is a cou-k.
- [02:37:31] <@Crono|Sleep> Right, and its in a civil war because the government has taken no measures to help the citizens
- [02:37:38] <@Crono|Sleep> Or apprehend the astronomical crime rate
- [02:37:41] <DarkShuyin> So they rebelled?
- [02:37:53] <@Crono|Sleep> But the government officials are rich and in luxury
- [02:37:58] <@Crono|Sleep> So yeah, the people rebelled
- [02:38:11] <@Crono|Sleep> For 6 days they protested until the first shots were fired
- [02:38:20] <NeoZEROX> This is AFE right?
- [02:38:28] <@Crono|Sleep> Two days later, almost all organized crime in the country transcended thestars
- [02:38:30] <@Crono|Sleep> Yes, NZX
- [02:38:44] <NeoZEROX> Okay, I'm confuse right now
- [02:38:45] <Daiton> Protest doesn't sound right.
- [02:39:13] <@Crono|Sleep> ?
- [02:39:21] <@Crono|Sleep> people protest before they just up and rebel >>
- [02:39:50] <Daiton> Well it is a country of criminals they would just up and riot.
- [02:39:52] <DarkShuyin> Its happened before
- [02:40:10] <@Crono|Sleep> ...fine, so they didn't protest
- [02:40:26] <DarkShuyin> Whos leading them?
- [02:40:40] <@Crono|Sleep> um... if Cluna is cool with it, Rosen Dorn, I guess
- [02:40:41] <Daiton> Ouroburos?
- [02:40:42] <@Crono|Sleep> or maybe Rutilus
- [02:40:45] <@Crono|Sleep> no, not Ouroboros
- [02:40:47] <@Crono|Sleep> not yet
- [02:40:57] <@Crono|Sleep> wait
- [02:41:04] <@Crono|Sleep> behind what? the gangs or the revolution?
- [02:41:20] <Daiton> Revolution
- [02:41:23] <@Crono|Sleep> The revolution is public upheaval
- [02:41:27] <@Crono|Sleep> The gangs are just common sense
- [02:41:40] <Daiton> Like Egypt?
- [02:42:04] <@Crono|Sleep> yep.
- [02:42:06] <Daiton> scratch that
- [02:42:11] <@Crono|Sleep> then no
- [02:42:11] <Daiton> libia
- [02:42:13] <@Crono|Sleep> right
- [02:42:20] <@Crono|Sleep> which of the protagonists will be in Thresher to start the story?
- [02:42:40] <Inawordyes> Are any of them from Thresher?
- [02:43:39] <DarkShuyin> ummm
- [02:44:12] <@Crono|Sleep> no, not that I know of
- [02:45:00] <Daiton> My character could be visiting a foriegn leader
- [02:45:59] <Daiton> Then again not a protagonist
- [02:47:09] <@Crono|Sleep> maybe we could make a Reks-like red herring just for this?
- [02:47:21] <DarkShuyin> hmmm
- [02:47:31] <Inawordyes> we could
- [02:47:32] <Daiton> either that or Rosen Dorn
- [02:47:41] <DarkShuyin> I was thinking that the rebels hired Loewe to help with the war
- [02:47:49] <@Crono|Sleep> maybe they be in the final riot that gets them to the palace, and could see something happen that leads into the rest of the story?
- [02:47:50] <Inawordyes> We got "Fighter", who could be in the area
- [02:47:54] <@Crono|Sleep> ooh, I like that too, DS
- [02:48:00] <@Crono|Sleep> and Loewe could meet Fighter, AJ?
- [02:48:30] <Daiton> Vitio is in teh palace?
- [02:49:09] <@Crono|Sleep> that could work
- [02:50:01] <DarkShuyin> Whos Fighter?
- [02:50:11] <Cluna> Maybe Rosen can try and assassinate Vitio?
- [02:50:24] <Daiton> ^
- [02:50:29] <@Crono|Sleep> that could work
- [02:50:35] <@Crono|Sleep> DarkShuyin: AJ's character
- [02:50:36] <Inawordyes> DarkShuyin: My new char
- [02:50:45] <DarkShuyin> link?
- [02:50:47] <Daiton> Link
- [02:51:14] <Inawordyes> I'm a little busy right now; can you get that Crono|Sleep?
- [02:51:20] <@Crono|Sleep> k
- [02:52:00] <NeoZEROX> So what you guys wanna do with 0?
- [02:52:06] <@Crono|Sleep> http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:A.J._two/Characters/%3F%3F%3F
- [02:52:14] <@Crono|Sleep> Dunno, Neo
- [02:52:20] <@Crono|Sleep> I haven't thought about him at all
- [02:52:23] <@Crono|Sleep> Same with May
- [02:52:34] <Inawordyes> Big Stuff. He's the ultimate end baddie, so . . .
- [02:53:19] <Daiton> He could be a Bigger Bad and be introduced later.
- [02:53:57] <NeoZEROX> Is anybody else work with 0?
- [02:54:14] <Inawordyes> Daiton: aren't they all?
- [02:55:05] <Daiton> Well he wont be introduced near the begin but closer to the middle or the end.
- [02:55:16] <Daiton> *beginning
- [02:55:42] <NeoZEROX> AJ is there anyone else that'll work with 0?
- [02:56:43] <@Crono|Sleep> Not the end.
- [02:56:48] <@Crono|Sleep> We don't want another Necron.
- [02:56:58] <Inawordyes> brb
- [02:57:02] <Inawordyes> or Orphan
- [02:57:12] <NeoZEROX> Or CoD
- [02:57:20] <@Crono|Sleep> We'll find someway to put Zero in, but let's just focus on the beginning now.
- [02:57:44] <@Crono|Sleep> Orphan wasn't bad, you know he/she existed. Sure, you didn't think you would have to fight him, btu she wasn't just random.
- [02:57:50] <@Crono|Sleep> Necron came out of nowhere.
- [02:58:20] <NeoZEROX> And CoD was cause from the flood of Darkness
- [02:58:30] <Daiton> If zero happens to appear near the middle my character could make a heel face turn?
- [02:59:00] <Daiton> just saying
- [02:59:09] <@Crono|Sleep> please...use character development
- [02:59:15] <@Crono|Sleep> let's not just make people change for no reason
- [02:59:36] <@Crono|Sleep> damn...sleep, like I should have been for 3 hours now? or watch one more episode of Martian Successor Nadesico...?
- [02:59:38] <Daiton> eh End of the world is bad for buisness
- [03:00:03] <NeoZEROX> End of the World?
- [03:00:31] <DarkShuyin> End of the World isnt a fav of mine
- [03:00:31] <Daiton> Zero wouldn't destroy the world I forgot.
- [03:00:56] <DarkShuyin> Ferris Bueller!
- [03:01:06] <NeoZEROX> If anything he not going to make it end, just make it suffer without no end.
- [03:01:09] <@Crono|Sleep> fuck it, one more episode
- [03:01:38] <DarkShuyin> Torture with no end
- [03:01:45] <Daiton> Well lets just focus on the beginning we'll cross the zero bridge when we get to it.
- [03:01:58] <Inawordyes> back
- [03:02:23] <Daiton> also my phone is going to die in the next 15-20 minutes
- [03:02:42] <Inawordyes> Crono|Sleep: It's 3 AM here, so I may get going soon as well
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- [03:02:52] <@Crono|Sleep> It's 3 am here, too :P
- [03:02:54] <Inawordyes> So, let's just try to get as much done as we can before than
- [03:02:58] <Inawordyes> IKR
- [03:02:59] <@Crono|Sleep> k.
- [03:03:03] <@Crono|Sleep> ping if needed
- [03:03:22] <Daiton> It's 3 am here too
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- [03:03:53] <DarkShuyin> its 12 am here
- [03:04:08] <NeoZEROX> So, idea to that to do with Lynna?
- [03:04:11] <NeoZEROX> 2 for me.
- [03:05:29] <Inawordyes> IDK. I'm not sure how any of the characters are gonna fit in, seeing as so far Nex is the only one returning
- [03:05:45] <Inawordyes> Weslei is, but I don't count him because I haven made his page yet
- [03:05:55] <Daiton> She could be an android like from bladerunner?
- [03:06:21] <Daiton> Or or a Dragon
- [03:06:35] <Daiton> Or a doctor
- [03:06:45] <Daiton> I vote Doctor
- [03:06:52] <Inawordyes> Doctor
- [03:06:57] <Daiton> At a clinic in Thresher
- [03:07:26] <@Crono|Sleep> doctor
- [03:07:39] <@Crono|Sleep> or she could have lived in Thresher, and is fleeing the war
- [03:08:13] <DarkShuyin> What about Gauche, should he return?
- [03:09:13] <@Crono|Sleep> Gareth is returning.
- [03:09:25] <NeoZEROX> AJ 0 and May are returning.
- [03:09:42] <NeoZEROX> Well May is completely different
- [03:10:22] <Daiton> What about Rutilius Nex?
- [03:10:27] <DarkShuyin> Gauche might fit in the civil war
- [03:10:33] <DarkShuyin> Nex is returning
- [03:11:25] <DarkShuyin> http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Alius_Fabula_Exertus/Gauche
- [03:14:22] <Inawordyes> NeoZEROX: yeah, I forgot about them until afterwards
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- [03:15:01] <Inawordyes> Gauche has as much chance as any of the other originals to return
- [03:15:39] <Inawordyes> BTW, is DSS joining AFE2? Because he has a character, but never gave me an answer
- [03:15:59] <NeoZEROX> I dunno really.
- [03:16:29] <NeoZEROX> I think Nex could still work for 0, I have to ask Arma
- [03:16:43] <Inawordyes> Gonna test something real quick, and I may log myself out, so a warning if it happens
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- [03:16:54] <NeoZEROX> I remember we plan that in original AFE
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- [03:17:38] <NeoZEROX> wb
- [03:17:58] <Inawordyes> didn't work right
- [03:18:23] <Inawordyes> My thing bugged and was showing 7thHeaven in the status tab, where I couldn't do anything
- [03:18:23] <Inawordyes> And my attempt failed
- [03:18:28] <Inawordyes> anyways, who was saying?
- [03:21:42] <@Crono|Sleep> nuthin
- [03:21:57] <Inawordyes> hmm
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- [03:23:00] <Neo0X> As I was FUCKING saying. Just wondering, sense there 4 protagonist and 4 antagonist (Not counting 0) could they be like rival to each other?
- [03:23:43] <Inawordyes> The protagonists to eachother, or the protagonists to the antagonists?
- [03:23:43] <DarkShuyin> Nah i dont think it would work smoothly
- [03:24:03] <Neo0X> You might be right.
- [03:24:59] NeoZEROX [~NeoZEROX@unaffiliated/neozerox] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
- [03:24:59] Neo0X [~NeoZEROX@unaffiliated/neozerox] is now known as NeoZEROX
- [03:25:30] <NeoZEROX> Well I'm heading to bed, we'll talk more tomorrow
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