Napol11/15/2018
Bit confused here, did not Shanks rule this in my favour?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
no
he said to adjust things according to you having one plate only
Napol11/15/2018
Yes, and your argument was that the camera would catch my rear plate.
So, what's the issue?
You said, the cameras would catch my rear plate, I don't have a rear plate.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
calculating the chances and knowing the facts either one plate would also not be captured by CCTVs before going for a reverse
Napol11/15/2018
Right, but when you made your decision you made it upon that the rear plate would be visible to CCTV right?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
that was mainly my point, got proved wrong doesn't mean instant reverse
i still gotta see why CCTVs wouldn't capture front plates
Napol11/15/2018
Because how the hell would a CCTV capture the front plates going reverse lol?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
the report was mainly either you had a rear plate or not, shanks said not
so i still am in position to judge what is going next
shanks's part is over
just draw a line of how you approached the vehicle
Napol11/15/2018
I don't remember how I approached the vehicle, it was almost two months ago.
but if I'm going reverse, how would they capture my front plates?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
so you were approaching the vehicle in a reverse motion yeah?
Napol11/15/2018
Yes, I was.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
so every circle within this screen is a CCTV cam that the owner of the vehicle was in power of
https://postimg.cc/K3jZd5Mc
lolg — Postimage.org

Napol11/15/2018
Is that his CCTV camera?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
I will hit back the location, test things out and see either the other cctvs would've capture your plates
Napol11/15/2018
Lmfao
so wait
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
yeah?
Napol11/15/2018
cops don't have to ask around
the houses
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
they don't
its the owner
who got the plates
then he reported to PD
the house belonged to a friend of his that owns that house
yeah one of the CCTVs would capture your front plate
Napol11/15/2018
Which one's hat.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
second


Napol11/15/2018
Right, first of all that angle is a bit weird
besides the fact that it's taken a lot more left than it actually is.
A camera does not have the same angle
as your computer screen?
a camera has like
a 45 degree angle

WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
that's exactly its angle

so eitherways your plates would still be captured, anything else you would like to add?
Napol11/15/2018
So basically you're telling me this camera, would manage to capture a moving car's plate at nighttime.
Not from it's own driveway, but from a house across the street's driveway?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
yeah, don't make it sound impossible since within the circle is all where the action happened

Napol11/15/2018
Yes, but that part would be covered by the branches, would it not?
The tree is right there.
hell, there's even a freking GTA SA object branch sticking out exactly at where the plates are located LOL
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
you also made your way out so its possible to capture your plates
that's where i stand at
Napol11/15/2018
I made my way out, by making a right (CCTV's left) so there's even more trees?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
a couple of tree branches wouldn't block the view no, at least during the tow process
Napol11/15/2018
The tree is right infront of the CCTV, so it could very well block the view.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
maybe that's whilst making your way out
during the tow process it would still capture it

Napol11/15/2018
So, just that we're clear you're saying that this camera captured a plate at night-time again, not near the house but at the other side?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
that's even the exact view of the CCTV
Napol11/15/2018
I mean, you do realize the quality would diminish from being so far away, PLUS it being nighttime?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
so far away?
its one street away
3 meters away
5 meters max
how far that is?
Napol11/15/2018
Five meters?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
one street away
Napol11/15/2018
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/494935761624367114/512708489370402827/mta-screen_2018-11-15_21-20-24.png

You're sayin this is five meters?
To the other drive-through?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
one street away
that's far?
Napol11/15/2018
I'd consider that far yes, I don't know where you got the 3-5m from.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
are you even aware of the fact that cctv cams can zoom in and out?
Napol11/15/2018
Are all cameras able to zoom? I had no idea.
Does it zoom autoamtically?
Like everytime it sees a car, it zooms in?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
man listen
that's my statement take it or leave it either the CCTV had zoom or not it would still be able to capture the plates
move it back to UCP if you aren't satisfied
Napol11/15/2018
No, you see I made the staff report because I wasn't satisified with your decision.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
yeah then continue and proceed with it
Napol11/15/2018
ANd in the Staff report I literally proved your decision wrong.
Now you've gone back on your decision.
And made the same fucking decision with a new conclusion?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
yeah no watch your language or i will totally stop talking here as its not within my duty to contact you via discord rather than ticket
my statement was totally different, we  were talking about the possibilities of the owner cctvs to capture your  /rear/ plates
Napol11/15/2018
That's not the owners CCTV camera.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
now we are talking about the front plates and how the rp should go as the UAT told me to
Napol11/15/2018
Did the owner RP getting CCTV from his friend?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
will dig logs of that, only if you confirm that we aren't going in loops at the moment
i'm not going to prove stuff then go back to previous points we talked about
Napol11/15/2018
Yes, we're not going in the loops.
This is the last point I'll make.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
give me your character name
Napol11/15/2018
Solak Uzun.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
any clue when you stole the vehicle?
Napol11/15/2018
Uhh, should be 26th.
Or 27th.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
yeah it was at 27 and unable to reach logs during that time
it jumps straight to 22/9
Napol11/15/2018
Lol what happened during those days?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/15/2018
no cloue
clue*
even ran logs of my own characters and they are missing
Napol11/15/2018
Right err.
What's the plan here then?
Napol11/16/2018
?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/16/2018
can't check his logs tho
Napol11/16/2018
Right, but what's the off-chance that he asked his friend about the CCTV?
Napol11/17/2018
Wait, what logs did you check
My logs or the character I stole the car from?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/17/2018
character logs
Napol11/17/2018
lol are all character logs from that time gone?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/17/2018
as it seems
log searched my character as well
the one i used to supervise
found nothing
Napol11/17/2018
And the logs of the character that had their car stolen aswell?
Napol11/17/2018
?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/17/2018
yeah
pretty much
every other character i had as well
Napol11/17/2018
What’s the plan then?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/17/2018
dunno, might ask choas whenever i can reach him
Napol11/17/2018
I mean if he did ask his friend for his CCTV
then that’s that
otherwise it would be metagaming to use that CCTV
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/17/2018
yeah its mainly his friend the one who told me about it
but gotta gather the logs
Napol11/21/2018
Any updates?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/21/2018
no
can't hack into the server sadly
Napol11/21/2018
ye but u can ask chaos?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/21/2018
go ahead
Napol11/21/2018
well i thought you said you’re going to but alright I will
Napol11/21/2018
Seems like the logs are gone then, no way to retrieve them either.
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/21/2018
pretty much the case at the current state
Napol11/21/2018
So there’s no way to prove either side, lol.
Napol11/24/2018
Maybe we take it back to the staff-report for a final verdict?
WickJeffe 😬🎅11/24/2018
sure
keep swanker updated
Napol11/28/2018
Posted my part of the ticket.