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  1. [2:40 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I just
  2. [2:40 AM] Leafia_Barrett: out of nowhere
  3. [2:40 AM] Leafia_Barrett: read one of the DoG's lines in Xord's voice mentally
  4. [2:40 AM] Leafia_Barrett: and god it fits so well
  5. [2:40 AM] Kiri: Does it feel like a fly bit you?
  6. [2:44 AM] Leafia_Barrett: isn't "Delicious" literally one of Xord's lines at no fewer than one point?
  7. [2:45 AM] Kiri: I feel like that sounds right?
  8. [2:48 AM] Kiri: does our interpretation of DoG even have capacity for speech?
  9. [2:48 AM] Kiri: I've largely felt like it's just effectively an animal
  10. [2:48 AM] Kiri: but I mean I don't know
  11. [2:51 AM] Leafia_Barrett: that was my initial impression when I first heard of and saw the guy, that he was no more intelligent than the Destroyer
  12. [2:51 AM] Leafia_Barrett: then I summoned the bastard to fight him and he taunted me
  13. [2:51 AM] Leafia_Barrett: so yeah he's going to be sapient
  14. [2:51 AM] Kiri: in what capacity
  15. [2:51 AM] Kiri: because I can see like
  16. [2:52 AM] Kiri: Xord-brand cartoonishly evil
  17. Nihilistically intelligent and wants your will crushed before he eats you
  18. Is only exactly smart enough to call you 'delicious' when he eats you
  19. [2:53 AM] Leafia_Barrett: somewhere between A and B
  20. [2:54 AM] Leafia_Barrett: think Hades from Kid Icarus: Uprising in terms of intelligence in this context, I guess?
  21. [2:55 AM] Leafia_Barrett: like, he's not stupid, he's extremely smart and can at any given time figure out no less than 5 different ways to kill any given thing
  22. [2:55 AM] Leafia_Barrett: but he's also pretty over-the-top ham
  23. [2:59 AM] Kiri: like, are we talking 'pops out of the ground after gulping down Ragnarok and starts raving about how it's strong and spicy enough for a man, yet with a refined and gentle aftertaste soft enough for a mortal, and that he loves it'
  24. [3:01 AM] Leafia_Barrett: that sounds about right, yeah
  25. [3:02 AM] Kiri: I still want his size clarified at some point too because like... Rave and I clearly had two different ideas in mind
  26. [3:03 AM] Leafia_Barrett: Dalamadur feels right
  27. http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Dalamadur
  28. https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/f/fd/MH4U-Dalamadur_Render_001.png/revision/latest?cb=20150205222636
  29. [3:03 AM] Kiri: somewhere around there, maybe a bit larger
  30. [3:04 AM] Kiri: just because I love the image of like, for just a fraction of a second at his speeds, the sky goes dark above everyone at the end of the Ragnarok fight
  31. [3:04 AM] Leafia_Barrett: maybe Raviente?
  32. http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Laviente
  33. https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunter/images/6/66/Box_Art-MHFOS7.0_PC_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131230184825
  34. [3:05 AM] Kiri: because he's just blotted out the sun as he careens down and like, if not 'swallowing Ragnarok entirely on the first go' then 'demolishing a majority of her form and the remainder gets consumed across like 3 more bites tops'
  35. [3:11 AM] Kiri: I 'unno.
  36. [3:12 AM] Leafia_Barrett: yeah I always assumed that however large he was, he'd be big enough to swallow Gaia basically whole
  37. [3:14 AM] Kiri: meanwhile Rave says something about him 'threading' gods to pieces
  38. [3:15 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I feel like different gods have different sizes
  39. [3:16 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I imagine the Moon Lord being "literally the size of a mountain"
  40. [3:16 AM] Kiri: yeah
  41. [3:16 AM] Leafia_Barrett: "big enough to wrestle Dalamadur"
  42. [3:16 AM] Kiri: Moon Lord is a big motherfucker
  43. [3:16 AM] Kiri: but like... I imagined, say, Omnicide
  44. [3:17 AM] Kiri: Omnicide I pictured was like
  45. [3:17 AM] Kiri: 9, 10 feet, tops
  46. [3:17 AM] Kiri: just, all of it was condensed anger
  47. [3:17 AM] Leafia_Barrett: yeah
  48. [3:17 AM] Leafia_Barrett: sounds right
  49. [3:17 AM] Leafia_Barrett: the three of them wouldn't be supergiants or anything
  50. [3:18 AM] Leafia_Barrett: but there is 3 of them and they're all made purely of some flavor of hatred
  51. [3:18 AM] Leafia_Barrett: also, reminder that Ragnarok =/= Gaia
  52. [3:18 AM] Kiri: doesn't Gaia merge with the Ragnarok somehow
  53. [3:18 AM] Leafia_Barrett: Ragnarok is basically Gaia's summons
  54. [3:18 AM] Kiri: am I misremembering that
  55. [3:19 AM] Leafia_Barrett: the Overseer, the final boss of Spirit, takes the place of the actual Gaia fight
  56. [3:21 AM] Kiri: oh geeze, that's a Spirit boss? I just for some reason assumed it was Calamity
  57. [3:21 AM] Kiri: [s]look forward to buffing the hell out of her, huh[/s]
  58. [3:26 AM] Kiri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUCBqAlj-c I listening to this again gives me like... an idea
  59. [3:26 AM] Kiri: since I don't know what 'right before Ragnarok' is staged like right now
  60. [3:26 AM] Kiri: but my mind sorta went off and was like
  61. [3:27 AM] Kiri: preceding Ragnarok, everyone is given basically a three-day warning
  62. [3:27 AM] Kiri: because the act of her calling upon the Ragnarok is legitimately so earth-shaking that it takes that long, and it very much feels like the end of the world as it happens
  63. [3:29 AM] Leafia_Barrett: Dawn of the First Day
  64. [3:29 AM] Leafia_Barrett: 72 hours remain
  65. [3:29 AM] Kiri: 'the first day, the air turns thick and miasmous, the sky grows green and nature withers
  66. the second day, the oceans flood the land, leaving all but the highest mountains drowned
  67. the third day, the clouds turn to ashes and fire rains from heaven itself'
  68. [3:29 AM] Kiri: so everyone sees the signs of the first day of Ragnarok and is concerned as they should be
  69. [3:29 AM] Kiri: and probably Skeletron is just like
  70. [3:29 AM] Kiri: '... Damnation, she actually went and did it.'
  71. [3:30 AM] Leafia_Barrett: the reason this didn't happen the first time is a) she was building up the strength for it for months and b) she only summoned one of them
  72. [3:30 AM] Kiri: (there were less theatrics with the end of WJ because yeah, it's just Omnicide)
  73. [3:30 AM] Leafia_Barrett: and not even the full dude, just a shade of him
  74. [3:30 AM] Kiri: 'Omnicidal Intent'
  75. [3:31 AM] Kiri: ... fuck I want that to be a summon now
  76. [3:31 AM] Kiri: anyways hell
  77. [3:31 AM] Kiri: I just love the idea that literally the party is weathering the end of the world in the last few days before everything goes wrong
  78. [3:32 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I want it to be made clear, too
  79. [3:32 AM] Leafia_Barrett: like
  80. [3:32 AM] Leafia_Barrett: okay, so
  81. [3:32 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I've made a point of mentioning several times
  82. [3:33 AM] Leafia_Barrett: that at the very least, the bigger cities and towns were fully capable of holding back the crimson even at its worst
  83. [3:34 AM] Leafia_Barrett: [the small towns and villages were probably evacuated during the segment where the crimson ate everything]
  84. [3:34 AM] Leafia_Barrett: like I always had this idea of
  85. [3:35 AM] Leafia_Barrett: during the early parts of hardmode, an ambient detail that we could bring up is a bit of a news report playing in the background
  86. [3:35 AM] Leafia_Barrett: "Refugees continue to filter in from _____ as..." etc
  87. [3:37 AM] Leafia_Barrett: the major ports like Charvagne, the big cities and capitols, even some of the middle-sized towns, all able to keep the crimson out and the monsters at bay
  88. [3:37 AM] Kiri: meanwhile The Ragnarok is completely and totally fucking most things that exist?
  89. [3:38 AM] Leafia_Barrett: this happens and everything just goes completely to shit.
  90. [3:40 AM] Kiri: the worst part about The Ragnarok as in the event
  91. [3:40 AM] Kiri: is that it's not like corruption or crimson
  92. [3:40 AM] Kiri: where it's an outside force trying to take over
  93. [3:41 AM] Kiri: this is legitimately the planet itself rebelling and crumbling beneath everyone's feet
  94. [3:41 AM] Leafia_Barrett: it's a lot easier to fight "a blight upon the planet"
  95. [3:41 AM] Leafia_Barrett: than it is to fight "the planet"
  96. [3:43 AM] Leafia_Barrett: there'll probably be a lot more airships in the air before dawn of the third day arrives
  97. [3:44 AM] Kiri: mmm
  98. [3:44 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I mean it's not just plausible, both of our characters literally live in one already(edited)
  99. [3:45 AM] Kiri: I don't know if I'm at liberty to also write geography into the story but like... it'd be really cool if part of that prophecy of Ragnarok included that like
  100. [3:46 AM] Kiri: 'These aspects of the end of the world will rise at Mt. [whatever], the pinnacle of pinnacles, the point where the land and sky become one upon Gaia's earth, and they will from there rain down a hell the likes of which the underworld would fear upon humanity'
  101. [3:46 AM] Leafia_Barrett: you're as much at liberty to do so as any of us, and you're the person who's actually done it before so I'd argue you'd be the best man for the job
  102. [3:47 AM] Kiri: just like, a possibly foreshadowable massive fuck-off mountain that would obviously not be underwater come the flood of the second day
  103. [3:47 AM] Kiri: which would be where the Ragnarok fight happens
  104. [3:48 AM] Kiri: idk, like, an established place the flood would not take
  105. [3:48 AM] Kiri: (and also a place I can call 'the pinnacle of pinnacles' because that's rad as hell)
  106. [3:49 AM] Kiri: heh, maybe we could write that place in as like... how everyone gets to the floating islands up in the clouds, because it's so high
  107. [3:49 AM] Kiri: for purposes of fighting the space bosses
  108. [3:50 AM] Leafia_Barrett: I could see that, yeah
  109. [3:50 AM] Kiri: ... christ, and then to establish how strong the DoG is
  110. [3:50 AM] Kiri: by the time the final boss is over
  111. [3:50 AM] Kiri: the mountain is legitimately nothing but rubble
  112. [3:51 AM] Kiri: like he pierced the ground so many times that he basically ate the whole thing throughout the fight
  113. [3:51 AM] Kiri: :p
  114. [3:52 AM] Kiri: I mean, did you know that a Dalamadur is the reason Heaven's Mount was the way it was in 4U
  115. [3:52 AM] Kiri: because yeah
  116. [3:53 AM] Leafia_Barrett: yeah
  117. [3:53 AM] Leafia_Barrett: and continued to be reduced in that manner through the fight
  118. [3:53 AM] Leafia_Barrett: honestly I kinda imagine him taking just
  119. [3:53 AM] Leafia_Barrett: "the peak" as a concept
  120. [3:54 AM] Leafia_Barrett: off on the first dive
  121. [3:54 AM] Kiri: like there's a 'relatively nice' set of ruins everyone fights Ragnarok in during that part of the encounter
  122. [3:54 AM] Kiri: you know, for ruins
  123. [3:54 AM] Kiri: yeah he swallows that whole thing give or take
  124. [3:56 AM] Leafia_Barrett: hopefully the waters will have receded some beforehand or there's going to be a lot of casualties .w.
  125. [3:57 AM] Kiri: we could say the flood mostly dried up with the burning rain of the third day
  126. [3:59 AM] Leafia_Barrett: okay, that would work
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