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- [01:33:42] <@NeoZEROX> lol didn't do much TC2 talking
- [01:34:52] <DSS> can we?
- [01:35:00] <@NeoZEROX> Why not
- [01:42:25] <DSS> did you guys figure out any reason why chaeron and ashland would fight?
- [01:47:03] DSS [45cf0975@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.207.9.117] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 252 seconds
- [01:48:20] <@NeoZEROX> Guess he didn't wanna know
- [01:51:06] DSS [45cf0975@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.207.9.117] has joined ##ursoul
- [01:54:42] <@SilverCrono> wb
- [01:55:04] <@SilverCrono> and no, we havent discussed it
- [01:55:13] <@SilverCrono> but arma said the crows as a whole are trying to start war
- [01:55:22] <@SilverCrono> so... they dont really gotta be provoked i guess
- [02:00:47] <DSS> I guess that raises the question why they haven't tried to start a war in the last 18 years, either with Asteria or the former Zirconia factions, who were all pretty weak after the war and easy targets
- [02:01:57] <@SilverCrono> rebuilding forces likely
- [02:02:00] <@SilverCrono> or gathering them
- [02:02:17] <@SilverCrono> plus they seem to like child soldiers, who are probably effective in general terrorism but not so much actual war
- [02:02:27] <@SilverCrono> 18 years is plenty of time for said soldiers to grow up tho
- [02:03:21] <DSS> rebuilding forces implies they were defeated already once, who and when? and why didn't they learn their lesson?
- [02:03:39] <DSS> and obvs just recruiting children is not a viable strategy in the long term
- [02:04:04] <DSS> that's a lot of resources devoted to them for a widespread group spread thin and trying to rebuild
- [02:09:35] <@SilverCrono> well everyone was basically defeated by the end of the war in tc1
- [02:09:54] <@SilverCrono> the crows had to establish a nation and hold territory
- [02:10:50] <Eight-bit> isn't there a note somewhere where the crows actually did war with asteria?
- [02:11:03] <Eight-bit> an event that caused them to have that huge grudge
- [02:12:54] NeoZEROX points to Viola backstory
- [02:13:54] <Eight-bit> thanks much :] I can definitely work with this
- [02:13:56] <DSS> I was seeing if anyone was paying attention
- [02:14:03] <DSS> how long ago was that "war"?
- [02:14:43] <@NeoZEROX> As it tell it was sharp blow to both main members for crow and sure many others
- [02:15:46] <Eight-bit> i'd assume very quickly after the last events of TC
- [02:16:15] <Eight-bit> that would be when people of a region would sense it was the best time to establish their own independence
- [02:19:31] <Eight-bit> I think we can slowly illuminate the years immediately after the end of TC throughout the story?
- [02:19:45] <Eight-bit> I'm going to do a little bit of that in my first with Larissa and Ekram
- [02:19:47] <DSS> It can't be, because Zero and I compromised that Ethan has no connection to the Crows. It also doesn't make sense that he was able to annex the neutral lands into their own country in the central area but not in the south
- [02:20:05] <DSS> given that he deferred the neutral lands in the north to the Seers
- [02:20:16] <DSS> I belive this conflict happened at least a generation ago
- [02:22:18] <@NeoZEROX> I do see that attack happening before TC
- [02:22:31] <@NeoZEROX> When Viola was 8 and in TC she would be 10
- [02:22:32] <Eight-bit> ooh ok
- [02:22:34] <DSS> I know we talked about this a few months a go and compromised
- [02:22:54] <DSS> that the actual conflict happened before TC and the event in Viola's backstory was an isolated incident
- [02:23:14] <DSS> and even that can still be asterians at fault too
- [02:23:45] <XJR-9> Eight-bit, SilverCrono: https://mega.nz/#F!gIk3kA4a!ZQgx26hw2RjUbuD8zpUUzQ
- [02:23:50] <XJR-9> Enjoy :D
- [02:23:54] <DSS> It would have to be otherwise her hatred for Asteria wouldn't make as much sense as it does >>
- [02:25:40] <Eight-bit> how does Chaeron form, then?
- [02:26:14] <Eight-bit> how/when
- [02:26:55] <@NeoZEROX> I think it would be first step in their plans gaining control of the land and would try recruit more members for the Crows
- [02:27:07] <DSS> The neutral lands were always unheld, the Crows probably held the some of the current land they do now for at least a generation or two
- [02:27:19] <DSS> unheld by Asteria or Zirconia*
- [02:27:51] <@SilverCrono> yessssss
- [02:28:21] <@SilverCrono> >ace.zip
- [02:28:31] <@NeoZEROX> I actually see Summanus trying form alliance with on faction with Zirconia trying convince them that Asteria must suffer for their war crimes remind them it was their fault unleashing Ultima Weapon on them
- [02:28:41] <XJR-9> SilverCrono: It just has pictures from our holiday.
- [02:28:42] <DSS> it would have to be formed officially after the end of TC, seeing as how they weren't there then
- [02:28:47] <XJR-9> y u creeping
- [02:28:53] <DSS> and that shouldn't be a problem
- [02:29:24] <DSS> the only problem might be in getting the other nations to recognize them as a country >>
- [02:31:12] <Eight-bit> okislep
- [02:31:34] <DSS> night
- [02:31:40] <Eight-bit> o/
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- [02:32:34] <@SilverCrono> w-wait, i hit download and ace.zip is dl'ing
- [02:32:44] <@SilverCrono> am i downloading glorious touhou or glorious romance
- [02:33:57] <XJR-9> Um
- [02:34:00] <XJR-9> It's not a zip
- [02:34:07] <XJR-9> So you are downloading pics from our trip
- [02:34:09] <XJR-9> Crono no
- [02:34:12] <XJR-9> Crono why
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