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  1. 00:42:49: <Turb> soon
  2. 01:07:42: <Turb> hi
  3. 01:07:51: <Turb> it's time
  4. 01:07:59: <Turb> so basically uhh
  5. 01:08:06: <Turb> polls
  6. 01:08:12: <Turb> https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39747.0
  7. 01:08:16: <Turb> https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39748.0
  8. 01:08:19: <Turb> https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39749.0
  9. 01:08:23: <Turb> https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.20
  10. 01:08:28: <smasher> h
  11. 01:08:31: <Turb> if you haven't already voted or acknowledged them then go vote
  12. 01:08:40: <toadbert> question
  13. 01:09:13: <Turb> what's the question
  14. 01:09:14: <Lord_Bowser> im here
  15. 01:09:28: <Turb> my question is why google docs won't load
  16. 01:09:37: <Gamefreak75> nintendo is never going to let us finish fave costume
  17. 01:09:51: <Turb> anyway once we get enough votes, 9 or so, or people acknowledging they can't vote
  18. 01:10:03: <Turb> we can finalize nominees
  19. 01:10:15: <Gamefreak75> since they released two more like 3 days ago
  20. 01:10:35: <Gamefreak75> idk how popular the 2 new costumes are though
  21. 01:10:37: <toadbert> what if i cant vote
  22. 01:10:53: <Lakituthequick> I have voted
  23. 01:11:13: <Turb> oh yeah they did do that with the dlc didn't they
  24. 01:11:19: <Shoey> i've voted
  25. 01:11:21: <Lakituthequick> Mainly for the ones that were extracted from M twenty-something
  26. 01:11:22: <Turb> I think it's late enough that we should just accept them as writeins
  27. 01:12:22: <Lakituthequick> it was a baseball and satelliteview costume right
  28. 01:12:25: <Turb> yeah
  29. 01:12:33: <smasher> i haven't voted because i don't remember leve3
  30. 01:12:35: <Turb> yoshi level seems to have enough votes to finalize
  31. 01:12:36: <Gamefreak75> works for me
  32. 01:12:37: <Turb> idk where 22 is
  33. 01:12:40: <smasher> levels
  34. 01:12:43: <__2257> 7here
  35. 01:12:50: <Turb> hi
  36. 01:12:51: <__2257> 7do you want to close yoshi
  37. 01:13:05: <Turb> i'll give it a few more minutes since there's only 7 voters for dk/wario
  38. 01:13:06: <smasher> I don't know if i have time to look them up
  39. 01:13:19: <Lord_Bowser> i cant vote on wario
  40. 01:13:27: <Gamefreak75> just vote for my nominationss
  41. 01:13:29: <Lord_Bowser> but i voted for yoshi/dk
  42. 01:13:30: <Turb> so if there's anyone who wants to do that who hasn't voted and can vote then now's the time
  43. 01:13:30: <smasher> i voted for costume a while ago at least
  44. 01:13:39: <Gamefreak75> you can trust me
  45. 01:13:46: <McD> i can't vote on wario and don't really know dk well enough to
  46. 01:13:47: <Shoey> God guys
  47. 01:13:56: <McD> did vote on yoshi though
  48. 01:14:00: <Shoey> I can't believe you all voted against those sweet dkc 3 levels
  49. 01:14:11: <toadbert> i couldve prevented this
  50. 01:14:26: <Turb> ok well
  51. 01:14:29: <Lord_Bowser> tb take over the ac
  52. 01:14:35: <Turb> at :10 or so I'll probably close votes and get polls
  53. 01:14:45: <Gamefreak75> barely anyone voted for tf levels
  54. 01:14:47: <smasher> id vote at least one dkc3 level if i remembered one shoey
  55. 01:14:47: <Turb> or just leave them open and finalize post meeting but _
  56. 01:14:47: <Anton{Awaytoed}> 4I'm back
  57. 01:14:50: <Turb> hi
  58. 01:14:58: <__2257> 7that was a quick 30 minutes
  59. 01:15:02: <Turb> you can take over now if you want
  60. 01:15:03: <Gamefreak75> shame how poor taste thecommunit has
  61. 01:15:06: <Gamefreak75> community
  62. 01:15:16: <Turb> i've just been here waiting for everyone to get back so they can actually vote if they haven't lol
  63. 01:15:19: <smasher> tf is a great game
  64. 01:15:19: <__2257> 7literally nobody played tropical freeze
  65. 01:15:23: <Turb> but i assume everyone who's gone afk has already voted
  66. 01:15:28: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but hey guys even with the "idk enough to be able to vote" we still are missing a solid 6-7 people from saying or doing anything
  67. 01:15:31: <__2257> 7nintendo didnt have a console to play it on
  68. 01:15:38: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and that's more than I care for for something that we've been focusing on for 2-3 weeks now
  69. 01:15:53: <Turb> yeah
  70. 01:15:54: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so as a general reminder and not me actively doing anything about it right now
  71. 01:16:00: <Gamefreak75> which exemplifies how poors taste people have
  72. 01:16:02: <Anton{Politoed}> 4if you don't want to participate, you can leave
  73. 01:16:15: <Anton{Politoed}> 4:)
  74. 01:16:20: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> hi
  75. 01:16:23: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm here now
  76. 01:16:50: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> voted on both polls i could and have already said which ones i can't so i'm done either way
  77. 01:17:00: <Gamefreak75> vote tf levels so the poll isnt dkc1/2 bias
  78. 01:17:16: <Turb> honestly i just voted 1/2/3 because i never played TF lol
  79. 01:17:21: <Gamefreak75> smh
  80. 01:17:23: <Turb> or barely enough to experience most of it
  81. 01:17:26: <Turb> blame the wii u
  82. 01:17:38: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> ast least New Funky Mode will rescue it soon
  83. 01:17:40: <Gamefreak75> its ok tf swithc comes out soonss
  84. 01:17:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4also with how low these vote totals are, there's bound to be a boatload of ties
  85. 01:17:41: <__2257> 7the wii who
  86. 01:17:42: <Turb> also yeah it's hard to keep track of who can't vote in polls and who's just ignoring it
  87. 01:17:44: <Turb> so
  88. 01:17:46: <Turb> _
  89. 01:17:50: <Anton{Politoed}> 4which will spur us into having to do what we did for Favorite Costume
  90. 01:17:53: <Gamefreak75> people can correct their sins
  91. 01:18:00: <Anton{Politoed}> 4which'll be another week of polls for M5-7
  92. 01:18:01: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> prime 4 when
  93. 01:18:07: <smasher> when the port comes out you will have no excuse
  94. 01:18:32: <Lakituthequick> There's a 6-way tie for 14th in the Yoshi level poll right now
  95. 01:18:32: <smasher> ill try to vote when im done working in a few minutes
  96. 01:18:53: <smasher> need to look this shit up
  97. 01:18:57: <smasher> time
  98. 01:19:09: <Gamefreak75> i hope ys gets at least one level in
  99. 01:19:24: <Gamefreak75> so it wont be yoshis island: the poll
  100. 01:19:33: <Turb> don't worry i tried to vote for YS
  101. 01:19:35: <Turb> good game
  102. 01:19:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anyone actively voting right now
  103. 01:19:58: <Lakituthequick> Jungle Hut (YS) is 6th so it'll ve good
  104. 01:20:00: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> not me
  105. 01:20:06: <Lakituthequick> *be
  106. 01:20:08: <Turb> already voted for everything
  107. 01:20:19: <Gamefreak75> i voted on all the polls btw
  108. 01:20:20: <Lakituthequick> also yeah I've voted a few days ago
  109. 01:20:27: <Gamefreak75> so im good
  110. 01:20:33: <Lord_Bowser> ive voted/acknowledged all polls
  111. 01:20:58: <Gamefreak75> ill create an alt account and vote if needed
  112. 01:21:05: <Gamefreak75> dont tell the mods
  113. 01:21:08: <Anton{Politoed}> 4thx
  114. 01:21:17: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> too late
  115. 01:21:20: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm telling
  116. 01:21:48: <smasher> banning now
  117. 01:22:35: <Anton{Politoed}> 4how about this one
  118. 01:22:36: <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39682.20
  119. 01:22:39: <Anton{Politoed}> 4vote in this one as well
  120. 01:22:47: <Gamefreak75> i did
  121. 01:22:53: <Lakituthequick> did too
  122. 01:22:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm locking M5-7 right now and will just resolve it as we did with Favorite Costume, and those polls will be put up later
  123. 01:22:59: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> done
  124. 01:23:04: <Gamefreak75> cant believe tostarena is losing
  125. 01:23:07: <Anton{Politoed}> 4not going to discuss which nominees made it into M5-7 right now
  126. 01:23:18: <Gamefreak75> at least chef is there
  127. 01:23:18: <Turb> that means it'll stay on the award at least
  128. 01:23:25: <Turb> the vote was to remove 2
  129. 01:23:31: <Shoey> yeah gamefreak
  130. 01:24:07: <smasher> voted
  131. 01:24:12: <Anton{Politoed}> 4my fetish is the vote count skyrocketing on all 4 of these polls only after they're forced into the meeting despite there being ample time for a week or two before
  132. 01:24:53: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> sounds complicate
  133. 01:24:55: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> *complicated
  134. 01:25:20: <Shoey> play tropical freeze you fucks
  135. 01:25:45: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is anyone still actively voting in the Costume poll
  136. 01:25:48: <Lakituthequick> Shoey I'm going to buy the Switch version
  137. 01:25:55: <Anton{Politoed}> 4this poll is to choose 2 that you DON'T want in the award
  138. 01:25:55: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> no
  139. 01:25:57: <Shoey> not good enough ltq
  140. 01:26:16: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> look shoey there's only one game on wii u that hasn't been rereleased or will be for another system
  141. 01:26:17: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> it's not enough
  142. 01:26:20: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> /not enough/
  143. 01:27:07: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Favorite Costume poll is locked and I will resolve the outcome of it after the meeting
  144. 01:27:23: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so next up is deciding nominees for Favorite Song !
  145. 01:27:25: <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=39719.msg1997849#msg1997849
  146. 01:27:30: <Lakituthequick> Chef and Swimwear lost
  147. 01:27:36: <Lakituthequick> or won
  148. 01:27:44: <Lakituthequick> got the most votes
  149. 01:27:54: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> dammit ltq
  150. 01:27:59: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> your avatar confused me
  151. 01:28:07: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> also if we need more cartoon ones
  152. 01:28:08: <Lakituthequick> oh
  153. 01:28:13: <Lakituthequick> I forgot my avatar did that
  154. 01:28:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4the list Ltq made up is:
  155. 01:28:19: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 Ashley's Song Break Free (Lead the Way) DK Rap Do the Mario Jump Up, Super Star! Karaoke (Medamayaki) The Mario Drawing Song Mona Pizza Phantom of the Bwahpera
  156. 01:28:19: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i have far more knowledge of the cartoon songs than anyone ever should have
  157. 01:28:31: <Gamefreak75> eddy the mean old yeti or riot
  158. 01:28:34: <Anton{Politoed}> 4with blocky adding on
  159. 01:28:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home, Pirate's Scorn, and I'm Leo Luster
  160. 01:28:58: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is that a complete selection from everyone's ideas?
  161. 01:28:58: <Shoey> can't believe we aren't including the best mario song
  162. 01:28:59: <Meta_knight> 10is there anything in ddr mario mix with lyrics
  163. 01:29:04: <Shoey> the super mario world show theme
  164. 01:29:05: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> that's all i plan to suggest
  165. 01:29:20: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'd add metal head if diddy's voice didn't SUCK in it
  166. 01:29:25: <Shoey> I suggest the super mario world show theme
  167. 01:29:26: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> fuckin' diddy
  168. 01:29:34: <Lord_Bowser> im fine with the current nominees
  169. 01:29:38: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> also i'm down for shoey's
  170. 01:29:39: <Turb> I don't have any suggestions
  171. 01:29:43: <smasher> i can't think of anything not already on the list
  172. 01:29:44: <Lakituthequick> If anything only the thing Shoey suggest and the DKC intro theme but otherwise no additions from me
  173. 01:29:49: <Shoey> yeah the smw show them is good shit
  174. 01:29:54: <Gamefreak75> wait fuck was the costume poll to remove 2?
  175. 01:29:56: <Shoey> also yeah the dkc theme is good shit
  176. 01:29:57: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> yes
  177. 01:29:58: <Meta_knight> 10im fine with that
  178. 01:30:04: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yep that's what the thing said
  179. 01:30:07: <Shoey> i'd support both themes
  180. 01:30:10: <Gamefreak75> i voted for the ones i wanted to keep
  181. 01:30:13: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> Oops
  182. 01:30:13: <Stargazing> sorry im late!
  183. 01:30:17: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> hi star
  184. 01:30:19: <Shoey> you did it wrong than
  185. 01:30:20: <Gamefreak75> im dumb
  186. 01:30:21: <Stargazing> i thought i logged in but i fucked up
  187. 01:30:22: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> we're discussing favorite song rn
  188. 01:30:24: <Stargazing> sorry yall
  189. 01:30:29: <Stargazing> oh good!
  190. 01:30:31: <smasher> gamefreak you dunce
  191. 01:30:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4do any of these songs need like
  192. 01:30:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4name changes
  193. 01:30:51: <Anton{Politoed}> 4or something, like
  194. 01:30:55: <Anton{Politoed}> 4to include where it's from
  195. 01:30:59: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> hmmm
  196. 01:31:07: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i think that would be good
  197. 01:31:12: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> help people look it up so they can listen
  198. 01:31:17: <Turb> I think they'd benefit from descriptive subtitles beyond the obvious ones like the smw show theme or whatever
  199. 01:31:20: <McD> are we still able to add songs
  200. 01:31:29: <McD> if so what about the jimmy one from warioware diy
  201. 01:31:30: <Turb> unless that has a name and isn't immediately identifiable as Super Mario World Show Theme
  202. 01:31:43: <Turb> like medamayaki would benefit
  203. 01:31:44: <Shoey> does jimmy t's have lyrics
  204. 01:31:45: <Lakituthequick> Also the comma in "Eddie, Let Me Go Back To My Home" can potentially be confusing because of how this stuff is listed
  205. 01:31:47: <Lakituthequick> beware
  206. 01:31:50: <Gamefreak75> yes
  207. 01:31:52: <Anton{Politoed}> 4sure but it would be easier to post in the thread so I can group them so I don't have to look at that and then also what people are saying in here
  208. 01:32:54: <Gamefreak75> i dont know if the jimmy t song has a name though
  209. 01:33:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so what we'll do since people are just now/still adding nominee ideas
  210. 01:33:28: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is we're going to keep this on the forum and not do anything with Favorite Song right now
  211. 01:33:44: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but in that thread we will bring it to completion with finalizing the nominee list and how we're naming them
  212. 01:33:52: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> that sounds ogod to me
  213. 01:33:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so next meeting we can be :thumbsup: at it
  214. 01:34:01: <Turb> gr8
  215. 01:34:06: <smasher> fine with me
  216. 01:34:33: <Anton{Politoed}> 4this means there needs to be complete participation with this so it's finished
  217. 01:34:46: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and not scrambling to do it during the meeting it was meant to be finished on, like right now and with M5-7
  218. 01:35:16: <Anton{Politoed}> 4unironically pretty pissed that this is happening
  219. 01:35:22: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so anyways moving on
  220. 01:35:49: <Anton{Politoed}> 4with those things being unable to resolve right now, the next thing is continuing on with Mario awards
  221. 01:35:55: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and we left off at M26
  222. 01:36:06: <Anton{Politoed}> 4which should be easier since we don't gotta move a bunch of stuff around with it
  223. 01:36:35: <Anton{Politoed}> 4M26 Favorite 3D Mario Level (Toy Time Galaxy (SMG), Good Egg Galaxy (SMG), Gusty Garden Galaxy (SMG), Whomp's Fortress/Throwback Galaxy (SM64/SMG2), Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2), Cosmic Cove Galaxy (SMG2), Bob-omb Battlefield (SM64), Tick Tock Clock (SM64), Pinna Park (SMS), Sirena Beach (SMS), Delfino Plaza/Airstrip (SMS), Mount Must Dash (SM3DW),
  224. 01:36:37: <Anton{Politoed}> 4The Great Tower of Bowser Land (SM3DW), Champion's Road (SM3DW), World 2-3 (SM3DL), Special 7-3 (SM3DL), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW))
  225. 01:36:43: <Lakituthequick> 16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
  226. 01:36:44: <Lakituthequick> 17) World 2-3 (SM3DL) — 30 — 1.46%
  227. 01:36:46: <Lakituthequick> 18) Special 7-3 (SM3DL) — 19 — 0.93%
  228. 01:36:47: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Noki Bay (SMS) — 8 — 0.39%
  229. 01:36:49: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Space Junk Galaxy (SMG) — 8 — 0.39%
  230. 01:36:50: <Lakituthequick> 21) O. Freezeflame Galaxy (SMG) — 6 — 0.29%
  231. 01:36:51: <Meta_knight> 10should we include odyssey kingdoms or should that be its own thing
  232. 01:37:01: <Gamefreak75> include
  233. 01:37:06: <Meta_knight> 10if the former we should add metro and bowser kingdom at least
  234. 01:37:20: <Lakituthequick> I have in my notes: Add Metro Kingdom: New Donk City, Wooded Kingdom: Steam Gardens
  235. 01:37:32: <Lord_Bowser> metro, bowser, sand, and moon would all be good choices to add imo
  236. 01:37:34: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I didn't play the galaxy games so how are those in comparison to how the Odyssey kingdoms are done
  237. 01:37:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4like, I guess there's SM64 levels on here and those are more comparable so _________
  238. 01:37:48: <Lord_Bowser> theyre more linear
  239. 01:37:49: <Turb> structured as entirely separate enterable missions
  240. 01:37:50: <Meta_knight> 10just looking at this list id be okay replacing toy time with a kingdom
  241. 01:37:54: <Lakituthequick> haven't played galaxy either
  242. 01:38:03: <McD> would we add the kingdoms themselves or specific locations inside them
  243. 01:38:06: <Turb> they're linear and the world is different each time
  244. 01:38:07: <Meta_knight> 10because toy time has the luigi purple coins comet that people hate
  245. 01:38:09: <Shoey> well meta we should knock the lowest vote getters off first
  246. 01:38:11: <Turb> kingdoms themselves would make more sense
  247. 01:38:18: <McD> id agree
  248. 01:38:21: <Lord_Bowser> probably knock off 2-3 and 7-3
  249. 01:38:24: <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's 18 nominees on this already right now so everything we add would cost removing something else
  250. 01:38:35: <Meta_knight> 10yeah but i said this before looking at the result shoey lol
  251. 01:38:37: <Gamefreak75> 64 and sunshine stages are on there
  252. 01:38:47: <Gamefreak75> so odyssey is fine
  253. 01:39:05: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'd be willing to chop off some of the bottom ones
  254. 01:39:08: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so that we can add odyssey
  255. 01:39:14: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> like, 1 sec
  256. 01:39:15: <Shoey> out with the old in with the new
  257. 01:39:21: <smasher> id want bowsers/metro/moon
  258. 01:39:33: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> gonna look at the full results for something
  259. 01:39:34: <Shoey> I think sand would be a good addition
  260. 01:39:38: <smasher> id be willing to kill the bottom three for them
  261. 01:39:38: <Lord_Bowser> metro/bowser/sand/moon
  262. 01:39:40: <Gamefreak75> metro/bowser/wooded
  263. 01:39:45: <Lord_Bowser> is priority order for me
  264. 01:39:48: <Lakituthequick> getting rid of the two 3D Land things to enter SMO sounds good
  265. 01:39:55: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 14) Grandmaster Galaxy (SMG2) — 62 — 3.03%
  266. 01:39:57: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 15) The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW) — 59 — 2.88%
  267. 01:39:58: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 16) Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2) — 37 — 1.81%
  268. 01:40:05: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'd be willing to take into account the huge gap down
  269. 01:40:10: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> and just cut the bottom three out for odyssey
  270. 01:40:17: <smasher> yeah
  271. 01:40:18: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so 2-3, 7-2, and slimy sprig
  272. 01:40:20: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> *spring
  273. 01:40:24: <Shoey> but which kingdoms?
  274. 01:40:29: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> that, i cannot contribute to
  275. 01:40:31: <McD> id be happy to cut more for odyssey tbh if we need to
  276. 01:40:35: <Shoey> cause it looks like there have been 5 nominated
  277. 01:40:37: <Shoey> same mcd
  278. 01:40:37: <Lord_Bowser> same
  279. 01:40:38: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah let's vote on that first
  280. 01:40:39: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> yeah, we can go up for a couple more
  281. 01:40:43: <Lakituthequick> metro at the very least as eveyone mentioned that one
  282. 01:40:45: <Gamefreak75> metros a given imo
  283. 01:40:48: <Meta_knight> 10definitely metro
  284. 01:40:49: <Turb> yeah
  285. 01:40:56: <Shoey> donk city bitch
  286. 01:41:05: <McD> i heard bowser and wooded mentioned earlier
  287. 01:41:07: <Meta_knight> 10aside that i personally want bowser kingdom but idk if anyone else wants that
  288. 01:41:09: <Lord_Bowser> should we just autoreplace the bottom nominee with metro and then vote from there
  289. 01:41:10: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove all 3 of: The Great Goal Pole (SM3DW), Slimy Spring Galaxy (SMG2), and World 2-3 (SM3DL)? (y/n/a)
  290. 01:41:12: <Shoey> y
  291. 01:41:16: <Lord_Bowser> y
  292. 01:41:16: <Meta_knight> 10y
  293. 01:41:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  294. 01:41:18: <Lakituthequick> y
  295. 01:41:22: <__2257> 7a
  296. 01:41:24: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> y
  297. 01:41:28: <McD> and 7-2, right?
  298. 01:41:35: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> yeah
  299. 01:41:36: <Gamefreak75> wait theres one lower than goal pole
  300. 01:41:41: <Shoey> wasn' there another nomine we were gonna eliminate
  301. 01:41:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4wait whoops
  302. 01:41:45: <Shoey> but all 4 fuck it
  303. 01:41:45: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah i flubbed
  304. 01:41:52: <Gamefreak75> im y for removing all those 4 tbh though
  305. 01:41:52: <Shoey> cut
  306. 01:41:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I meant the bottom 3
  307. 01:41:57: <Lord_Bowser> same
  308. 01:41:59: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm okay with just lopping off goal pole
  309. 01:42:03: <Turb> y
  310. 01:42:05: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> and giving us an extra odyssey slot
  311. 01:42:12: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so my vote stays "y and also kill 7-2"
  312. 01:42:15: <McD> we can always add it back if we can't decide on a fourth
  313. 01:42:16: <smasher> y
  314. 01:42:21: <Shoey> my vote also stays y
  315. 01:42:24: <McD> y and kill 7-2/goal pole
  316. 01:42:24: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> yeah
  317. 01:42:25: <Meta_knight> 10y
  318. 01:42:33: <Lord_Bowser> y, kill bottom 4
  319. 01:42:34: <Meta_knight> 10odyssey is so fresh that i feel it has a huge impact on everything
  320. 01:42:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I can't really see anyone missing it and no one's complained so I'll just do that all yeah
  321. 01:42:51: <smasher> y kill bottom 4
  322. 01:42:58: <Gamefreak75> y to bottom 4
  323. 01:43:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so i'm seeing:
  324. 01:43:46: <Meta_knight> 10y
  325. 01:43:49: <Lakituthequick> so how to format SMO things
  326. 01:43:53: <Anton{Politoed}> 4metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon
  327. 01:43:56: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> Metro Kingdom (SMO)?
  328. 01:43:58: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> and such
  329. 01:44:04: <Meta_knight> 10per perch
  330. 01:44:06: <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any others people are burning for
  331. 01:44:09: <Lakituthequick> Kingdom: Location, Kingdom, or Location
  332. 01:44:16: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> ...what/
  333. 01:44:18: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> ?
  334. 01:44:27: <Gamefreak75> just kingdomss
  335. 01:44:30: <Meta_knight> 10i feel we should omit city names/specific names
  336. 01:44:30: <Anton{Politoed}> 4just kingdom yeah
  337. 01:44:32: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i thought we were just putting in the kingdoms wholesale
  338. 01:44:36: <Anton{Politoed}> 4that's how I have it in my notes for other things
  339. 01:44:36: <Lord_Bowser> each kingdom has a location subtitle perch
  340. 01:44:39: <Lakituthequick> ..what?
  341. 01:44:40: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> oh
  342. 01:44:46: <Lord_Bowser> i.e metro's subtitle is new donk city
  343. 01:44:48: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> just kingdoms, imo
  344. 01:44:55: <Shoey> kingdoms will suffice
  345. 01:45:01: <Lord_Bowser> wooded's is steam gardens
  346. 01:45:02: <Shoey> anyone who'd vote them will know what it is
  347. 01:45:04: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i still haven't played odyssey i'm doing my best
  348. 01:45:08: <Turb> kingdoms are obvious enough since thats whats displayed on the map
  349. 01:45:10: <Lakituthequick> So Metro Kingdom is a given
  350. 01:45:26: <Anton{Politoed}> 4each kingdom has a subsection though
  351. 01:45:29: <Anton{Politoed}> 4does this matter to this
  352. 01:45:37: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I doubt it but I figured I'd raise the point
  353. 01:45:44: <Meta_knight> 10i would say its fine if its just the kingdom
  354. 01:45:50: <Meta_knight> 10its not like it doesnt include the city
  355. 01:45:53: <Lord_Bowser> i guess one name might be more familiar to someone than another
  356. 01:45:54: <Meta_knight> 10the city is in the kingdom
  357. 01:46:00: <Meta_knight> 10but theres part of the kingdom not in the city
  358. 01:46:05: <Lord_Bowser> the wiki prioritizes kingdom names though
  359. 01:46:12: <Lord_Bowser> the subtitles are redirects
  360. 01:46:19: <Shoey> I doubt most people know all the subsection names
  361. 01:46:21: <Lord_Bowser> i.e. new donk city redirects to metro kingdom
  362. 01:46:24: <Shoey> I only knew Donk City
  363. 01:46:27: <Meta_knight> 10the kingdom name is whats on the map you select
  364. 01:46:28: <Lakituthequick> .... Kingdom is clear enough so
  365. 01:46:59: <Meta_knight> 10just put "the entire planet (SMO)" and call it a day /s
  366. 01:47:06: <Meta_knight> 10what about mushroom kingdom tho
  367. 01:47:18: <Lakituthequick> Mushroom Kingdom: Peach' Castle
  368. 01:47:22: <Meta_knight> 10actually nvm the ones we're suggesting is fine
  369. 01:47:29: <Turb> subtitle it as smo if it gets in but it doesn't look like it will
  370. 01:48:11: <Lakituthequick> so are we gonna choose which of the five (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon) we aren't going to put in or
  371. 01:48:11: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is there anyone who's absolutely against just the Kingdom name
  372. 01:48:24: <Lord_Bowser> not me
  373. 01:48:29: <Gamefreak75> no
  374. 01:48:30: <Lakituthequick> Kingdom is perfectly okay
  375. 01:48:43: <smasher> i support it just being the kingdom nam
  376. 01:48:45: <smasher> e
  377. 01:48:47: <Meta_knight> 10maybe have a vote for the one people dont want in out of those 5
  378. 01:48:51: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr88, so are those the only 5 people suggest
  379. 01:49:00: <Lakituthequick> ye
  380. 01:49:39: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Select the one you do not want to be included in M26 (metro/bowser/wooded/sand/moon/a)
  381. 01:49:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4moon
  382. 01:49:48: <__2257> 7moon
  383. 01:49:49: <Gamefreak75> moon
  384. 01:49:50: <Meta_knight> 10moon
  385. 01:49:55: <Lakituthequick> moon
  386. 01:49:56: <Shoey> moon
  387. 01:49:56: <smasher> wooded
  388. 01:50:00: <Lord_Bowser> wooded
  389. 01:50:10: <smasher> 0-0-2-0-5
  390. 01:50:15: <Turb> moon
  391. 01:50:15: <smasher> rip moon kingdom
  392. 01:50:44: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah rip moon
  393. 01:50:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4updating the sheet now
  394. 01:50:52: <Lakituthequick> Metro Kingdom, Bowser's Kingdom, Wooded Kingdom, Sand Kingdom from memory
  395. 01:51:38: <Anton{Politoed}> 4any other concerns for M26?
  396. 01:51:50: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> none from me
  397. 01:52:07: <Lakituthequick> nee
  398. 01:52:16: <Turb> no
  399. 01:52:26: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr888888888
  400. 01:52:44: <Anton{Politoed}> 4M27 Favorite Boss Battle (Tubba Blubba (Paper Mario), Phantamanta (Super Mario Sunshine), Brobot (Super Paper Mario), Rawk Hawk (PM:TTYD), Bowser in the Sky (Super Mario 64), Kaptain K. Rool 1 and 2 (DKC2), Super Dimentio (Super Paper Mario), Elder Princess Shroob (M&L: PiT), Megaleg (Super Mario Galaxy), General Guy (Paper Mario),
  401. 01:52:46: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Kingfin (Super Mario Galaxy), Motley Bossblob (SM3DW), Tiki Tong (DKCR), Popple and Rookie (M&L: SS), Dark Bowser (M&L: BIS), Bowser/Meowser (SM3DW), Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy), Shiny RoboBowser (M&L: PJ))
  402. 01:52:47: <Lord_Bowser> nope
  403. 01:52:57: <Anton{Politoed}> 4along with updating some of these to have abbreviated game names
  404. 01:52:58: <Lakituthequick> 16) Motley Bossblob (SM3DW) — 42 — 2.00%
  405. 01:53:00: <Lakituthequick> 17) Tubba Blubba (PM) — 39 — 1.85%
  406. 01:53:00: <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is at 18 nominees
  407. 01:53:01: <Lakituthequick> 18) Tiki Tong (DKCR) — 20 — 0.95%
  408. 01:53:03: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Bouldergeist (SMG) — 9 — 0.43%
  409. 01:53:04: <Lakituthequick> 20) O. Baby Bowser (YI) — 8 — 0.38%
  410. 01:53:06: <Lakituthequick> 21) O. Bowser (Super Mario Galaxy 2) — 7 — 0.33%
  411. 01:53:06: <Shoey> dragon from odyssey
  412. 01:53:06: <Gamefreak75> rip tiki tong
  413. 01:53:07: <Lakituthequick> 21) O. Hisstocrat (SM3DW) — 7 — 0.33%
  414. 01:53:14: <Meta_knight> 10dragon was underwhelming
  415. 01:53:15: <Lord_Bowser> tbh i really liked mollusque-lanceur
  416. 01:53:26: <Anton{Politoed}> 4the dragon fucking sucked and I wish it was just not included in the game at all
  417. 01:53:27: <Shoey> meta we fought a goddamn dark souls boss
  418. 01:53:31: <Meta_knight> 10my vote is for mechawiggler
  419. 01:53:32: <Gamefreak75> id vote for torkdrift or mollusque
  420. 01:53:32: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but it was visually cool
  421. 01:53:39: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> draggadon
  422. 01:53:40: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> :)
  423. 01:53:46: <Lakituthequick> Ruined Dragon was definitely underwhelming but cool
  424. 01:53:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4here's all of the options
  425. 01:53:54: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i have no contributions to odyssey, though
  426. 01:53:54: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Madame Broode, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, Bowser, Mechawiggler, Mollusque-Lanceur, Cookatiel, Ruined Dragon, RoboBrood
  427. 01:53:58: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so i'll be sitting this part out
  428. 01:54:05: <Shoey> oh yeah I love fist god
  429. 01:54:20: <Anton{Politoed}> 4out of those I really liked Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
  430. 01:54:27: <Lord_Bowser> mollusque-lanceur, torkdrift, and mechawiggler get my vote
  431. 01:54:32: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mollusque-Lanceur looked cool and I love him but it was really annoying
  432. 01:54:38: <Gamefreak75> im with lb on this
  433. 01:54:49: <Lakituthequick> Knucklotec is pretty neat yeah
  434. 01:54:51: <Meta_knight> 10whats torkdrift
  435. 01:54:59: <Lord_Bowser> the wooded kingdom boss
  436. 01:55:00: <Anton{Politoed}> 4the wooded kingdom ufo thing
  437. 01:55:01: <Lakituthequick> UFO that eats flowers
  438. 01:55:02: <Meta_knight> 10oh
  439. 01:55:03: <Lord_Bowser> flower ufo
  440. 01:55:10: <Meta_knight> 10yeah i want mechawiggler and knucklotec
  441. 01:55:14: <Meta_knight> 10idk about a thrid
  442. 01:55:16: <Shoey> sub out the squid for the knuckle boy
  443. 01:55:17: <Meta_knight> 10*third
  444. 01:55:20: <Shoey> and that's my vote
  445. 01:55:23: <Turb> I'd say torkdrift and mechawiggler imo
  446. 01:55:27: <Turb> but i like both
  447. 01:55:30: <Anton{Politoed}> 4we haven't removed any yet so there's no set number on what to add
  448. 01:55:37: <Turb> i'd be better off just voting when polls come up after removals are made
  449. 01:55:56: <Meta_knight> 10remove the bottom 3 again i suppose
  450. 01:55:59: <Meta_knight> 10and we can add from there
  451. 01:56:02: <Meta_knight> 10and if we want more we can
  452. 01:56:05: <Anton{Politoed}> 4it's kind of a smooth decline in numbers down the list so there's no obvious cutoff
  453. 01:56:31: <Lakituthequick> between 15 and 16 is a slightly larger difference than a bit around it
  454. 01:56:39: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so how about we vote like this
  455. 01:56:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RsocZ6s-whVG__FrTqGK_CVeDPOJiAVeYBB-7aat2oo/edit#
  456. 01:56:52: <Anton{Politoed}> 4here's the complete results so you can all see the list
  457. 01:57:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove how many from the bottom of M27? (0/1/2/3/4/5/a)
  458. 01:57:51: <Gamefreak75> 3
  459. 01:58:02: <Stargazing> 3
  460. 01:58:04: <McD> 3
  461. 01:58:05: <Lakituthequick> 3
  462. 01:58:09: <__2257> 7a
  463. 01:58:30: <Shoey> a
  464. 01:58:35: <Turb> 3
  465. 01:58:42: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 3
  466. 01:58:48: <Meta_knight> 103
  467. 01:58:57: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 3
  468. 01:59:02: <smasher> op3
  469. 01:59:05: <smasher> 3
  470. 01:59:06: <Lord_Bowser> 3
  471. 01:59:11: <smasher> why is there op
  472. 01:59:12: <Lakituthequick> this will remove Motley, Tubba and Tiki
  473. 01:59:14: <Anton{Politoed}> 4looks like 3 so that'll be
  474. 01:59:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that
  475. 01:59:28: <Shoey> damn why did we never add steak to favorite boss fight
  476. 01:59:33: <smasher> a sad day for tubba
  477. 01:59:45: <smasher> 10-0-2
  478. 02:00:00: <Lakituthequick> ...steak is a good one actually
  479. 02:00:04: <Lakituthequick> darn
  480. 02:00:12: <Baby_Luigi> sorry, I didn't pay attention to the time
  481. 02:00:34: <Shoey> lop another boss fight off and add steak :P
  482. 02:00:42: <Lakituthequick> i mean techically we could add steak and two smo ones
  483. 02:00:58: <smasher> what was steak again
  484. 02:01:08: <Shoey> it was the boss fight in color splash
  485. 02:01:08: <Lakituthequick> colour splash boss
  486. 02:01:10: <Lord_Bowser> did mario and rabbids have any good boss fights actually
  487. 02:01:14: <Shoey> where you had to cook a steak
  488. 02:01:16: <Lakituthequick> you defeat it by seasoning it
  489. 02:01:29: <Shoey> it was part of why color splash is so good
  490. 02:01:29: <Turb> i thought steak was already brought up one of the other years and ultimately not added
  491. 02:01:34: <smasher> weird
  492. 02:01:37: <Turb> i guess that's not a case against it definitively
  493. 02:01:42: <Anton{Politoed}> 4lb has a good question
  494. 02:01:45: <Meta_knight> 10i havent played mario and rabbids so idk
  495. 02:01:48: <Anton{Politoed}> 4did rabbids have anything for this award
  496. 02:01:51: <smasher> i played color splash for half an hour
  497. 02:01:55: <smasher> and rabbids too
  498. 02:01:59: <Shoey> I don't really remember the bosses anton
  499. 02:02:10: <Lakituthequick> is rabbid kong a good boss(tm)
  500. 02:02:14: <smasher> i need to play that more before i can conttribute a boss
  501. 02:02:17: <Lakituthequick> i haven't played the ham so
  502. 02:02:20: <Lakituthequick> *game
  503. 02:02:28: <Lakituthequick> (ham?)
  504. 02:02:31: <Shoey> I kind of remember all the bosses being annoying tbh
  505. 02:02:39: <Lord_Bowser> steamed games
  506. 02:03:07: <Lord_Bowser> well if theyre only memorable for being annoying then theyre probably not good nominees
  507. 02:03:41: <Lakituthequick> yeah
  508. 02:03:52: <Lakituthequick> can always look at write-ins next year
  509. 02:04:26: <Lord_Bowser> man the problem is only like 2 people total played mario and rabbids
  510. 02:04:35: <smasher> it doesnt look like e need to add rabbids right now
  511. 02:04:35: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah I agree with that
  512. 02:04:36: <Shoey> it was a good game
  513. 02:04:39: <Shoey> people should buy it
  514. 02:04:52: <Baby_Luigi> I want to play it and i heard it's on sale in Best Buy
  515. 02:05:03: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so out of Odyssey the ones I saw people care about adding were
  516. 02:05:05: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mollusque-Lanceur, Knucklotec, Torkdrift, and Mechawiggler
  517. 02:05:07: <Meta_knight> 10i have it shoey
  518. 02:05:09: <Meta_knight> 10i just havent played it
  519. 02:05:14: <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any others people really want to consider for this award
  520. 02:05:26: <Lakituthequick> other than steak, nope
  521. 02:05:30: <Shoey> go team steak
  522. 02:05:36: <Turb> out of the odyssey bosses no
  523. 02:05:38: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is steak like a serious response for this
  524. 02:05:42: <Shoey> yes
  525. 02:05:52: <Anton{Politoed}> 4serious enough for me to put time into discussing it
  526. 02:06:00: <Shoey> i'm for it
  527. 02:06:01: <Lakituthequick> oh
  528. 02:06:02: <Lakituthequick> 58) O. Steak (PM:CS) — 1 — 0.05%
  529. 02:06:04: <Shoey> if nobody else is that's fine
  530. 02:06:05: <Lakituthequick> ahahah
  531. 02:06:24: <Meta_knight> 10no opinion on steak but if it wasnt in last year and didnt get much for a write in or anything im against it
  532. 02:06:36: <Meta_knight> 10odyssey should be prioritized
  533. 02:06:41: <Turb> yeah that's the thing
  534. 02:06:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm not including it
  535. 02:06:44: <Turb> it's basically a shitpost vote
  536. 02:06:45: <Lakituthequick> yeah smo first
  537. 02:06:54: <McD> i had no idea steak existed up until this point
  538. 02:07:05: <Lord_Bowser> ugh my parents are forcing me to socialize
  539. 02:07:12: <Lord_Bowser> afk for a bit
  540. 02:07:14: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so there's 3 spots with 4 SMO bosses
  541. 02:07:14: <Meta_knight> 10it probably becaues none of us actually played color splash
  542. 02:07:19: <Anton{Politoed}> 4quick lb say something you don't want
  543. 02:07:20: <Shoey> nobody played color splash but and gamefreak
  544. 02:07:31: <Shoey> me and
  545. 02:07:32: <Lakituthequick> i still want to play cs
  546. 02:07:41: <Shoey> you should it's amazing
  547. 02:07:47: <Baby_Luigi> the battle system is what turned me off of it mostly
  548. 02:07:54: <smasher> which one was torkdrift again
  549. 02:07:57: <Lakituthequick> ufo
  550. 02:07:59: <Baby_Luigi> the ufo thing
  551. 02:08:08: <Shoey> My votes for the 3 that aren't the squid
  552. 02:08:26: <smasher> oh
  553. 02:08:27: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Which SMO boss do you NOT want included in M27 Favorite Boss Battle? (Mollusque-Lanceur/Knucklotec/Torkdrift/Mechawiggler)
  554. 02:08:35: <Lakituthequick> Torkdrift
  555. 02:08:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4all will be given the (SMO) tag, of course
  556. 02:08:44: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mollusque-Lanceur
  557. 02:08:49: <Shoey> squid boss
  558. 02:08:54: <smasher> mollusque-lanceur
  559. 02:08:54: <Gamefreak75> knuckle
  560. 02:08:55: <Turb> Mollusque-Lanceur
  561. 02:08:59: <Meta_knight> 10mollusque
  562. 02:09:01: <__2257> 7mollusque lanceur
  563. 02:09:02: <Gamefreak75> :'(
  564. 02:09:08: <Baby_Luigi> Mollusque Lancer
  565. 02:09:20: <smasher> goodbye mollusque lanceur
  566. 02:09:33: <Anton{Politoed}> 4lb would be a vote for keep squidman but i don't think it'd be enough
  567. 02:10:01: <smasher> 7-1-1-0-0
  568. 02:10:18: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so rip him
  569. 02:10:22: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm adding those other 3
  570. 02:10:27: <Anton{Politoed}> 4any other considerations for M27?
  571. 02:10:33: <smasher> im good
  572. 02:10:36: <Lakituthequick> steak
  573. 02:10:37: <Lakituthequick> (no)
  574. 02:10:57: <Meta_knight> 10im fine with how it is
  575. 02:11:04: <Baby_Luigi> no
  576. 02:11:26: <McD> not really
  577. 02:11:57: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr888888888888888888
  578. 02:11:58: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  579. 02:12:13: <Anton{Politoed}> 4M28 Favorite Game Setting (Mushroom Kingdom (Super Mario Bros.), Mushroom Kingdom (Paper Mario), Super Mario RPG World, Dinosaur Land, Yoshi's Island, Isle Delfino, Beanbean Kingdom, Rogueport & surrounding areas, Flipside & Flopside, Bowser's Castle, Sarasaland, Donkey Kong Island, Sprixie Kingdom, Comet Observatory & Galaxies, Pi'illo Island, Prism Island)
  580. 02:12:16: <Lakituthequick> 14) Sprixie Kingdom — 65 — 2.95%
  581. 02:12:18: <Lakituthequick> 15) Prism Island — 48 — 2.18%
  582. 02:12:19: <Lakituthequick> 16) Sarasaland — 37 — 1.68%
  583. 02:12:21: <Lakituthequick> 17) O. Peach's Castle — 9 — 0.41%
  584. 02:12:22: <Lakituthequick> 18) O. Diamond City — 7 — 0.32%
  585. 02:12:24: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Mushroom Kingdom (M&L:BIS)) — 6 — 0.27%
  586. 02:12:27: <Lakituthequick> 20 is new donk city somewhy
  587. 02:12:47: <Meta_knight> 10itd be like "city" but the thing is there really isnt any other level like that
  588. 02:12:54: <Lakituthequick> my notes say "Add Cascade Kingdom" which is another SMO thing
  589. 02:13:15: <Shoey> i'm good with how this award is
  590. 02:13:31: <Anton{Politoed}> 4new donk city was included last year because there was more than enough previews of it to allow a decent opinion
  591. 02:13:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4there's 16 right now and I'd like to see some SMO representation
  592. 02:14:04: <smasher> i would too
  593. 02:14:31: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so Cascade Kingdom
  594. 02:14:33: <Gamefreak75> can we encompass it all into one nomination?
  595. 02:14:39: <Stargazing> i'd support cascade kingdom
  596. 02:14:50: <Lakituthequick> SMO is probably too diverse to do a all-in thing
  597. 02:14:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that was my thought
  598. 02:15:06: <Baby_Luigi> Cascade Kingdom is meh to me
  599. 02:15:07: <__2257> 7but the way the award is written now, the nominees are all something that was exactly the setting of an entire game
  600. 02:15:10: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and it also introduces things like "Bowser's Castle"
  601. 02:15:12: <smasher> one nom would be good if it was possible but yeah i dont think it would work
  602. 02:15:13: <Gamefreak75> galaxies are in there too
  603. 02:15:20: <McD> yeah galaxy only has one nom
  604. 02:15:22: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and SMO's bowser's castle is wildly different
  605. 02:15:32: <__2257> 7so for consistency, it should be the entire world
  606. 02:15:36: <Gamefreak75> same with pm and pm2
  607. 02:15:42: <Meta_knight> 10the best way i can encompass everything is something like "The whole planet SMO"
  608. 02:15:44: <smasher> ok 22 does have a point
  609. 02:15:45: <Meta_knight> 10or something
  610. 02:16:07: <Lakituthequick> well on 22's point, most nominated games are indeed very coherent
  611. 02:16:14: <Turb> yeah idk if this needs to be discussed more on the forums later if the entire world is a big point of contention
  612. 02:16:14: <Lakituthequick> SMO is wild
  613. 02:16:18: <Baby_Luigi> Super Mario Odyssey Kingdoms
  614. 02:16:18: <Turb> yeah like
  615. 02:16:22: <Turb> smo isn't as cohesive
  616. 02:16:37: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> is paper mario really
  617. 02:16:38: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> all that coherent
  618. 02:16:45: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> or rogueport and its surrondings
  619. 02:16:48: <Baby_Luigi> TTYD isn't
  620. 02:16:51: <Baby_Luigi> the first one is more coherent
  621. 02:16:55: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> and flipside/flopside isn't the setting of an entire game
  622. 02:17:04: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so if we're wanting to be consistent we'd need to reword that one
  623. 02:17:08: <Anton{Politoed}> 4this award feels _ if it's tough just figuring out how to nominate something
  624. 02:17:33: <Baby_Luigi> why is Mushroom Kingdom split from SMB from PM anyway
  625. 02:17:44: <Lakituthequick> i haven't played any paper mario's yet so can't judge those
  626. 02:17:45: <Anton{Politoed}> 4"M28 - Favorite Game Setting - The game with the best setting overall. Focus is placed on the entirety of the setting as a whole, rather than just individual areas."
  627. 02:17:49: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is what our current definition is
  628. 02:17:54: <Shoey> I think the paper mario world is now considered a different world baby_luigi
  629. 02:17:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so it is the whole game
  630. 02:18:01: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and SMO just doesn't fit this
  631. 02:18:04: <Shoey> like how we've go super mario rpg world on here
  632. 02:18:06: <Baby_Luigi> Since Paper Jam...?
  633. 02:18:14: <__2257> 7i dont think its about paper jam
  634. 02:18:17: <__2257> 7the thing is
  635. 02:18:33: <__2257> 7the focus is supposed to be on the setting as depicted in a specific game
  636. 02:18:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4honestly I'm perfectly fine with dismantling this award and reworking it
  637. 02:18:45: <__2257> 7so smb and paper mario are jsut separate because theyre separate games
  638. 02:18:48: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm ok with it
  639. 02:18:50: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> as in
  640. 02:18:56: <Baby_Luigi> But Mushroom Kingdom is like different in every Mario game anyway
  641. 02:18:56: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> replacing/overhauling this award
  642. 02:19:00: <Gamefreak75> im fine with that
  643. 02:19:02: <Lakituthequick> smo is all different settings really so ..
  644. 02:19:04: <smasher> ok id be ok with overhauling this
  645. 02:19:05: <Baby_Luigi> Super Mario 64 is different than Super Mario Bros.
  646. 02:19:07: <__2257> 7not because theyre supposedly separate locations within the fictional chronology of the series
  647. 02:19:08: <Meta_knight> 10i agree with anton/perch
  648. 02:19:24: <__2257> 7well yeah but we couldnt include all of them
  649. 02:19:29: <__2257> 7that would be too many nominees
  650. 02:19:51: <Stargazing> yeah agree
  651. 02:19:56: <Baby_Luigi> imo it's a bit messy to me
  652. 02:20:05: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'll make a thread for this after the meeting
  653. 02:20:13: <Lakituthequick> :ok:
  654. 02:20:15: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but just some examples of how we could approach this is:
  655. 02:20:17: <Baby_Luigi> People might like Mushroom Kingdom in SMB3 but not in SMB idk
  656. 02:20:20: <Baby_Luigi> it's bizarre
  657. 02:20:21: <Anton{Politoed}> 4redefine the entire award
  658. 02:20:33: <Anton{Politoed}> 4allow individual locations under certain circumstances
  659. 02:20:37: <McD> presumably its just treated as different parts of the same kingdom
  660. 02:20:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4replace the award entirely
  661. 02:20:40: <__2257> 7im pretty sure its like this to try and keep it from being a retread of favorite level
  662. 02:20:48: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah
  663. 02:20:57: <Lakituthequick> good point
  664. 02:21:04: <Baby_Luigi> Let's save this for thread then
  665. 02:21:21: <Anton{Politoed}> 4if we included entire kingdoms in favorite level then it's redundant in here as well
  666. 02:21:27: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i think
  667. 02:21:32: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'd be down for just scrapping the award
  668. 02:21:38: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> and coming up with an alternative
  669. 02:21:43: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> this has alwas been one of those weird awards
  670. 02:21:51: <Anton{Politoed}> 4we could also ju9st not include SMO but that feels bad
  671. 02:21:57: <Baby_Luigi> I do think the award has a good concept though
  672. 02:22:01: <McD> itd get write-ins as well
  673. 02:22:09: <Baby_Luigi> It serves as a cumulation of levels, not just one particular level
  674. 02:22:09: <Lakituthequick> it already got last year
  675. 02:22:18: <Turb> i like the concept of the award
  676. 02:22:27: <McD> it made sense up until odyssey
  677. 02:22:28: <Turb> but if we have any other ideas floating around they can be pitched
  678. 02:22:33: <Turb> yeah thats the thing
  679. 02:22:37: <McD> most mario games stuck to the same general location
  680. 02:22:38: <Turb> it was shaky if workable
  681. 02:22:44: <smasher> i like the concept of the award too
  682. 02:22:45: <Turb> odyssey is too spread out
  683. 02:22:47: <McD> except galaxy which is easier to account for because it had a hub world
  684. 02:22:52: <Turb> workable if shaky
  685. 02:22:52: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah like I wouldn't vote for "all of SMO' in this award because fuck Luncheon Kingdom
  686. 02:22:54: <Turb> whatever
  687. 02:23:02: <__2257> 7i honestly dont think odyssey has changed things
  688. 02:23:02: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I want to rig the award for SMO's Bowser's Kingdom
  689. 02:23:05: <__2257> 7smb3 had basically
  690. 02:23:07: <__2257> 7the same setting
  691. 02:23:16: <Baby_Luigi> I agree with 2257
  692. 02:23:32: <McD> but smb3 is kinda easier to ignore
  693. 02:23:37: <Baby_Luigi> Also, galaxies technically aren't related to each other either
  694. 02:23:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4yeah that's one of the ways to approach it, by just changing the definition to allow it and be more clear
  695. 02:23:48: <McD> whereas odyssey is like the biggest mario game right now
  696. 02:23:53: <Lakituthequick> yeah but they share the whole 'galaxy' thing
  697. 02:24:03: <Baby_Luigi> But doesn't Odyssey share Kingdoms as well..?
  698. 02:24:13: <Baby_Luigi> with their own unique currency and moons?
  699. 02:24:20: <__2257> 7i think kingdoms are as coherent of a theme as galaxies are
  700. 02:24:34: <Baby_Luigi> ^
  701. 02:24:44: <Lakituthequick> yeah
  702. 02:24:46: <__2257> 7they all kind of follow the same format with yeah, th ecurrency and moons
  703. 02:25:00: <__2257> 7as well as the inhabitants, the way the levels are named, the tourist book thing, etc
  704. 02:25:05: <Baby_Luigi> The only exceptions are the arena kingdoms but we can easily exclude those
  705. 02:25:38: <Lakituthequick> i feel like there is some distinqtion but you raise good points
  706. 02:25:45: <__2257> 7the award is about the way the setting is presented in the game, and i think theres a clear theme here
  707. 02:25:57: <__2257> 7its not incoherent
  708. 02:26:36: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok well I'll make this a forum thread
  709. 02:26:38: <Baby_Luigi> I think we should save this for thread
  710. 02:26:39: <Baby_Luigi> Yeah
  711. 02:26:41: <Turb> yeah
  712. 02:26:50: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm siding with 22 but I'm _____________ on the whole thing
  713. 02:26:59: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I feel we'll just need to regroup the nominees at the very least
  714. 02:27:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so next up are M29 and M30
  715. 02:28:06: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I've already went and updated them with the switch in generations and the moving of nominees from 30 --> 29
  716. 02:28:09: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  717. 02:28:22: <Anton{Politoed}> 4M29 Favorite Classic Game (GCN/GBA and older) (Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Paper Mario, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Mario Kart 64, Yoshi's Story, Mario Party 2, Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA), Wario Land 3, Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest,
  718. 02:28:23: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Mario Party 3, Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, Super Mario Sunshine, Wario Land 4)
  719. 02:28:32: <Lakituthequick> 12) Mario Party 2 — 47 — 2.08%
  720. 02:28:34: <Lakituthequick> 13) Yoshi's Story — 38 — 1.68%
  721. 02:28:35: <Lakituthequick> 14) Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA) — 34 — 1.50%
  722. 02:28:37: <Lakituthequick> 15) Wario Land 3 — 30 — 1.33%
  723. 02:28:38: <Lakituthequick> 16) O. Donkey Kong Country — 5 — 0.22%
  724. 02:28:40: <Lakituthequick> 17) O. Super Mario Land — 4 — 0.18%
  725. 02:28:41: <Lakituthequick> 17) O. Super Mario Land 2 — 4 — 0.18%
  726. 02:28:43: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Mario Party 1 — 3 — 0.13%
  727. 02:28:47: <Baby_Luigi> No change
  728. 02:28:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I think we're at 18 if I remembered how to count
  729. 02:28:58: <__2257> 7did this get overfilled by moving things from m30
  730. 02:29:02: <__2257> 7oh
  731. 02:29:04: <__2257> 7ok
  732. 02:29:13: <Anton{Politoed}> 4someone else may want to count just to get a 2nd opinion
  733. 02:29:18: <smasher> if were at 18 i think we are fine
  734. 02:29:21: <smasher> but i will count
  735. 02:29:25: <smasher> since im the ounter
  736. 02:29:27: <smasher> counter
  737. 02:29:29: <Lakituthequick> you moved three games
  738. 02:29:34: <Lakituthequick> 15 + 3 = 18
  739. 02:29:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4:clap:
  740. 02:29:42: <Gamefreak75> its 18 yeah
  741. 02:29:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm content with this with no further changes
  742. 02:30:04: <smasher> yep its 18
  743. 02:30:08: <smasher> no further changes
  744. 02:30:09: <Baby_Luigi> 18
  745. 02:30:19: <Baby_Luigi> I miscounted 19 twice, but got 18 a third time
  746. 02:30:29: <smasher> i miscounted 19 too
  747. 02:30:30: <Meta_knight> 10 im okay with this
  748. 02:30:31: <McD> i also miscounted 19 twice lol
  749. 02:30:43: <smasher> but that was accidentally counting smrpg as 2 options
  750. 02:30:45: <Lakituthequick> sounds risque
  751. 02:30:46: <smasher> damn subtitles
  752. 02:30:49: <Meta_knight> 10i counted 18
  753. 02:31:19: <McD> yeah nothing really to add/remove
  754. 02:31:35: <Anton{Politoed}> 4woo
  755. 02:31:44: <Baby_Luigi> !skip
  756. 02:31:49: <McD> surprised and appalled smb2 isn't higher
  757. 02:31:54: <Anton{Politoed}> 4M30 Favorite Modern Game (Wii/DS and newer) (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Mario Kart Wii, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, Super Mario 3D World, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, Mario Kart 8/Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World, Paper Mario: Color Splash
  758. 02:31:54: <Baby_Luigi> ^
  759. 02:31:59: <McD> i vote we replace all the nominees with smb2
  760. 02:32:04: <Lakituthequick> 13) Yoshi's Woolly World/Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World — 42 — 1.85%
  761. 02:32:06: <Lakituthequick> 14) Super Mario 3D Land — 37 — 1.63%
  762. 02:32:07: <Lakituthequick> 15) Wario Land 4 — 23 — 1.01%
  763. 02:32:08: <Baby_Luigi> y
  764. 02:32:09: <Lakituthequick> 16) O. Mario & Luigi: Dream Team — 10 — 0.44%
  765. 02:32:10: <Lakituthequick> 17) O. Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga — 8 — 0.35%
  766. 02:32:11: <Baby_Luigi> I vote y on that
  767. 02:32:12: <Lakituthequick> 18) O. Mario Kart DS — 6 — 0.26%
  768. 02:32:18: <Lakituthequick> wario land moved
  769. 02:32:19: <McD> wario land 4's in the other award now anyway
  770. 02:32:25: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 12 nominees on this one so I'd like to get more
  771. 02:32:27: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 15 is the goal
  772. 02:32:28: <Gamefreak75> dont add odyssey
  773. 02:32:32: <Lakituthequick> lets add smo
  774. 02:32:38: <Baby_Luigi> duh
  775. 02:32:38: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Super Mario Odyssey is an instant add so I'm just doing that now
  776. 02:32:40: <smasher> add odyssey obviously
  777. 02:32:44: <Baby_Luigi> Super Mario Run?
  778. 02:32:49: <smasher> i would prefer two more as well
  779. 02:32:50: <Shoey> add mario and rabbids i guess
  780. 02:32:53: <Turb> rabbids might- yeah
  781. 02:32:56: <Meta_knight> 10rabbids is fair
  782. 02:32:56: <McD> rabbids has good reviews
  783. 02:33:02: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm ok with rabbids
  784. 02:33:04: <smasher> yeah id be ok with rabbids
  785. 02:33:12: <smasher> maybe dream team as the 15th?
  786. 02:33:20: <smasher> its the highest write in
  787. 02:33:43: <McD> captain toad could be a good addition?
  788. 02:33:48: <Stargazing> it's very close to the previous write in though, and isn't that close to wario land 4
  789. 02:34:06: <Baby_Luigi> I did suggest Super Mario Run but that's a small mobile title so eh
  790. 02:34:18: <Baby_Luigi> I wouldn't mind Captain Toad
  791. 02:34:20: <Baby_Luigi> great game
  792. 02:34:21: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> ooh
  793. 02:34:22: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i like captain toad
  794. 02:34:29: <Shoey> yeah captain toad is great
  795. 02:34:30: <McD> its getting a port too
  796. 02:34:38: <Baby_Luigi> Captain Toad 4 Smash
  797. 02:34:42: <Gamefreak75> add dkc:tf
  798. 02:34:50: <Lakituthequick> captain toad wasn't previously written in
  799. 02:35:01: <Shoey> why the hell isn't tropical freeze in ths
  800. 02:35:33: <smasher> i think we removed a dkc option at one point
  801. 02:35:44: <smasher> because the voters are terrible and it scored low
  802. 02:35:46: <Baby_Luigi> Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions idk
  803. 02:35:54: <smasher> but the port might make it more viable
  804. 02:36:05: <Turb> it feels weird to put a port of an old game on but
  805. 02:36:08: <smasher> i wouldnt be opposed to either it or captain toad
  806. 02:36:08: <Turb> i dunno
  807. 02:36:15: <smasher> i agree yeah
  808. 02:36:16: <Meta_knight> 10it feels weird to me too
  809. 02:36:17: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> not sure about superstar saga
  810. 02:36:17: <Gamefreak75> im voting no on ss remake
  811. 02:36:25: <Turb> the removal of dk was only for the level/whatever awards iirc
  812. 02:36:30: <Meta_knight> 10im also against ss
  813. 02:36:33: <Turb> so dkctf could probably be on here
  814. 02:36:34: <Meta_knight> 10it doesnt feel as like
  815. 02:36:36: <Meta_knight> 10noticable
  816. 02:36:44: <Turb> I'm tlaking about ss for the port thing
  817. 02:36:46: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, Super Mario Run, Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
  818. 02:36:49: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so that's 6
  819. 02:37:04: <Anton{Politoed}> 4with 2 easy slots but up to 5
  820. 02:37:20: <Anton{Politoed}> 4SS isn't getting wide support I'm seeing and that'd knock it down to 5
  821. 02:37:29: <Lakituthequick> not really for ss and smr
  822. 02:37:31: <smasher> i mean i cant say im against adding everything there but ss
  823. 02:37:35: <Anton{Politoed}> 4how do people feel about Dream Team and Super Mario Run
  824. 02:37:37: <smasher> smr is __ but valid
  825. 02:37:50: <Baby_Luigi> Dream Team is eh
  826. 02:37:54: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> dream team is valid but i'm not a fan of it
  827. 02:38:03: <Baby_Luigi> It does have to compete with BiS anyway
  828. 02:38:04: <Lakituthequick> I feel SMR isn't sizable enough for this kinda poll
  829. 02:38:10: <Gamefreak75> i dont care for smr but its w/e daisy fanboys will vote for it
  830. 02:38:13: <Meta_knight> 10i feel like we would have added dream team by now if it was like noteworthy enough
  831. 02:38:14: <Turb> both valid but neither seem like good choices
  832. 02:38:18: <Lakituthequick> the others are fully fledged games at the least
  833. 02:38:24: <smasher> we could cut those two then and have 16
  834. 02:38:31: <Lakituthequick> ^
  835. 02:38:36: <smasher> unless there are two better suggestions
  836. 02:38:44: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok i'll do this one at a time
  837. 02:38:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4let me just set it up
  838. 02:38:53: <smasher> i think everyones fine with tf/rabbids/ct
  839. 02:38:54: <smasher> ok
  840. 02:39:02: <Stargazing> i still have super mario run and i agree with cutting it off
  841. 02:39:09: <Stargazing> it's not viable at all and is an automatic last
  842. 02:39:28: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker" to M30? (y/n/a)
  843. 02:39:31: <Gamefreak75> y
  844. 02:39:31: <smasher> y
  845. 02:39:32: <Shoey> y
  846. 02:39:33: <Lakituthequick> y
  847. 02:39:34: <__2257> 7a
  848. 02:39:44: <Baby_Luigi> y
  849. 02:39:48: <smasher> 5-0-1
  850. 02:39:56: <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  851. 02:39:59: <smasher> 6-0-1
  852. 02:40:05: <Stargazing> y
  853. 02:40:11: <smasher> 7-0-1
  854. 02:40:13: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr8 so i'll add it
  855. 02:40:23: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze" to M30? (y/n/a)
  856. 02:40:25: <Baby_Luigi> y
  857. 02:40:26: <smasher> y
  858. 02:40:27: <Gamefreak75> Y
  859. 02:40:31: <Lakituthequick> y
  860. 02:40:37: <McD> y
  861. 02:40:41: <Shoey> y
  862. 02:40:44: <smasher> 6-0-0
  863. 02:40:47: <Meta_knight> 10y
  864. 02:40:51: <__2257> 7a
  865. 02:40:51: <smasher> 7-0-0
  866. 02:40:57: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr88
  867. 02:41:00: <smasher> 7-0-1
  868. 02:41:03: <smasher> you RUINEDIT
  869. 02:41:05: <Anton{Politoed}> 4that brings us to 15
  870. 02:41:09: <McD> gr7-0-1
  871. 02:41:24: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle" to M30? (y/n/a)
  872. 02:41:26: <Baby_Luigi> y
  873. 02:41:27: <smasher> y
  874. 02:41:28: <__2257> 7not comfortable voting for a game i didnt play
  875. 02:41:28: <Stargazing> a
  876. 02:41:29: <Lakituthequick> y
  877. 02:41:32: <Turb> a
  878. 02:41:34: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> a
  879. 02:41:37: <__2257> 7a
  880. 02:41:37: <smasher> 3-0-3
  881. 02:41:37: <Gamefreak75> a
  882. 02:41:41: <smasher> 3-05
  883. 02:41:43: <smasher> 3-0-5
  884. 02:41:49: <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  885. 02:41:50: <smasher> the abstains have it
  886. 02:41:53: <smasher> 4-0-5
  887. 02:41:55: <Turb> I'll switch to y
  888. 02:41:56: <Shoey> y
  889. 02:41:56: <McD> y
  890. 02:42:02: <smasher> 7-0-4
  891. 02:42:05: <smasher> there we are
  892. 02:42:09: <Shoey> sorry I went to get cereal
  893. 02:42:19: <Lakituthequick> i mean i haven't played rabbids either but it appears to be well-recieved
  894. 02:42:29: <McD> yeah it can't hurt to have it on the poll
  895. 02:42:33: <Meta_knight> 10y
  896. 02:42:33: <Baby_Luigi> what's not to like about an xcom mario game
  897. 02:42:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Super Mario Run" to M30?
  898. 02:42:49: <Baby_Luigi> n
  899. 02:42:50: <Shoey> n
  900. 02:42:52: <smasher> n
  901. 02:42:52: <Stargazing> n
  902. 02:42:53: <Lakituthequick> n
  903. 02:42:53: <Gamefreak75> rabbids
  904. 02:42:54: <__2257> 7a
  905. 02:43:03: <smasher> 0-5-1
  906. 02:43:04: <McD> a
  907. 02:43:09: <Gamefreak75> n
  908. 02:43:09: <Turb> n
  909. 02:43:13: <Meta_knight> 10n
  910. 02:43:17: <smasher> 0-8-2
  911. 02:43:23: <Anton{Politoed}> 4rip
  912. 02:43:24: <smasher> super mario run away
  913. 02:43:26: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> nb
  914. 02:43:27: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> *n
  915. 02:43:31: <smasher> 0-9-2
  916. 02:43:34: <Lakituthequick> vote: y/n/a
  917. 02:43:35: <Lakituthequick> gf: rabbids
  918. 02:43:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Dream Team" to M30? (y/n/a)
  919. 02:43:42: <McD> id like to switch to rabbids
  920. 02:43:43: <Baby_Luigi> n
  921. 02:43:45: <Turb> n
  922. 02:43:48: <Shoey> a
  923. 02:43:48: <smasher> 0-9-2-1
  924. 02:43:49: <McD> n
  925. 02:43:49: <smasher> a
  926. 02:43:49: <Stargazing> n
  927. 02:43:55: <smasher> 0-4-2
  928. 02:44:00: <Lakituthequick> a
  929. 02:44:13: <Meta_knight> 10n
  930. 02:44:18: <Gamefreak75> a
  931. 02:44:18: <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  932. 02:44:24: <smasher> 0-6-4
  933. 02:44:28: <smasher> the dream is dead
  934. 02:44:38: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> n
  935. 02:44:39: <McD> the team is dead
  936. 02:44:39: <__2257> 7a
  937. 02:44:47: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions" to M30? (y/n/a)
  938. 02:44:50: <Gamefreak75> n
  939. 02:44:50: <smasher> 0-7-5
  940. 02:44:51: <Baby_Luigi> a
  941. 02:44:51: <smasher> n
  942. 02:44:52: <McD> n
  943. 02:44:59: <Lakituthequick> n
  944. 02:45:05: <smasher> im just too _____ on adding a remake
  945. 02:45:10: <Stargazing> a
  946. 02:45:12: <smasher> 0-4-2
  947. 02:45:18: <Anton{Politoed}> 4n
  948. 02:45:24: <smasher> 0-5-2
  949. 02:45:41: <Baby_Luigi> Even if the remake is actually good and not a cash-in?
  950. 02:45:54: <smasher> yes
  951. 02:45:55: <Turb> n
  952. 02:45:58: <smasher> its still a remake
  953. 02:46:02: <Meta_knight> 10n
  954. 02:46:07: <__2257> 7n
  955. 02:46:11: <Lakituthequick> fun fact: companies don't remake games if they won't make money
  956. 02:46:16: <smasher> im just not fully surre it counts
  957. 02:46:16: <Meta_knight> 10the thing is though
  958. 02:46:24: <Baby_Luigi> Companies don't make games if they won't make money
  959. 02:46:24: <smasher> and the original never did well on this to begin with
  960. 02:46:26: <Meta_knight> 10superstar saga remake feels liike a cashin
  961. 02:46:27: <Anton{Politoed}> 4any other considerations for M30?
  962. 02:46:32: <Meta_knight> 10bis remake even more so
  963. 02:46:40: <smasher> 0-8-2 btw
  964. 02:47:09: <smasher> id say make this 18 if i had two more suggestions
  965. 02:47:11: <__2257> 7regardless of whether its a cash in, i wouldnt put it on this award
  966. 02:47:19: <McD> don't think so
  967. 02:47:23: <smasher> so unless anyone else does id move on
  968. 02:47:33: <McD> looks like we're done with mario
  969. 02:47:37: <Anton{Politoed}> 4if that's it we can move on to Fail Awards
  970. 02:47:41: <__2257> 7i think a remake of a classic game is a classic game, even if its newer
  971. 02:47:51: <smasher> ^
  972. 02:47:59: <Baby_Luigi> i think it depends on what has changed
  973. 02:48:10: <Baby_Luigi> which something like SSS + BM clearly isn't
  974. 02:48:12: <Anton{Politoed}> 4F1 Worst Character (Mario, Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Wario, Petey Piranha, Birdo, Mimi, Starlow, Lubba, Princess Peach, Bowser Jr., Toad, Fawful, Pink Gold Peach, Baby Rosalina, Kersti, Rosalina)
  975. 02:48:25: <Lakituthequick> 17) Princess Peach — 20 — 0.87%
  976. 02:48:25: <Lakituthequick> 15) Bowser Jr. — 34 — 1.47%
  977. 02:48:25: <Lakituthequick> 16) Petey Piranha — 27 — 1.17%
  978. 02:48:26: <Lakituthequick> 18) O. Luigi — 5 — 0.22%
  979. 02:48:28: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Bowser — 4 — 0.17%
  980. 02:48:29: <Lakituthequick> 19) O. Dimentio — 4 — 0.17%
  981. 02:48:49: <Baby_Luigi> I wouldn't change anything
  982. 02:48:54: <Lakituthequick> nope
  983. 02:48:57: <smasher> i wouldnt either
  984. 02:48:59: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I'm up for removing Peach
  985. 02:49:05: <smasher> i cant think of anything newer
  986. 02:49:07: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but let me check to see if she's been low on this consistently
  987. 02:49:09: <Lakituthequick> possible
  988. 02:49:10: <Gamefreak75> all of the rabbids
  989. 02:49:11: <Baby_Luigi> Broodals
  990. 02:49:12: <__2257> 7i want to lol
  991. 02:49:18: <smasher> well id be ok with removing peach
  992. 02:49:21: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> if peach has been consistently super low i'd like to cut her
  993. 02:49:22: <Lakituthequick> peach is officially not terrible apparently
  994. 02:49:23: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> maybe also petey?
  995. 02:49:37: <Baby_Luigi> yeah I'd cut Petey over peach
  996. 02:49:39: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 2016
  997. 02:49:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 16) Mario — 41 — 1.53% 17) Princess Peach — 29 — 1.08% 18) O. Bowser — 13 — 0.49%
  998. 02:49:49: <Turb> I'd definitely rather cut peach
  999. 02:49:57: <smasher> definitely cut peach over petey
  1000. 02:50:01: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> if 2015 is also low
  1001. 02:50:01: <McD> yeah id cut peach
  1002. 02:50:02: <Lakituthequick> yaeh
  1003. 02:50:06: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> then i fully support cutting peach
  1004. 02:50:55: <Anton{Politoed}> 4 10) Starlow — 69 — 2.57% 11) Petey Piranha — 61 — 2.28% 11) Wario — 61 — 2.28%
  1005. 02:51:12: <Anton{Politoed}> 4this is Petey's first time really being that low so it's not as strong of a contender but _
  1006. 02:51:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so
  1007. 02:51:23: <Baby_Luigi> I'll leave it
  1008. 02:51:30: <smasher> id leave petey
  1009. 02:51:30: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Remove "Princess Peach" from F1 Worst Character? (y/n/a)
  1010. 02:51:31: <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  1011. 02:51:33: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> y
  1012. 02:51:34: <Baby_Luigi> a
  1013. 02:51:34: <smasher> y
  1014. 02:51:34: <Lakituthequick> y
  1015. 02:51:35: <McD> y
  1016. 02:51:36: <__2257> 7y
  1017. 02:51:36: <Shoey> a
  1018. 02:51:40: <Gamefreak75> y
  1019. 02:51:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4i'm so happy
  1020. 02:51:43: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> also yeah
  1021. 02:51:46: <smasher> 7-0-2
  1022. 02:51:47: <Turb> y
  1023. 02:51:50: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> i'm gonna withdraw my idea to cut petey
  1024. 02:51:50: <smasher> 8-0-2
  1025. 02:51:56: <smasher> the princess is safe
  1026. 02:51:58: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> peach is consistently low, petey might have been a fluke
  1027. 02:52:04: <smasher> yeah
  1028. 02:52:06: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> so leave him on at least this year
  1029. 02:52:12: <Meta_knight> 10y
  1030. 02:52:16: <smasher> 9-02
  1031. 02:52:21: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> 9-2
  1032. 02:52:21: <smasher> 9-0-2
  1033. 02:52:24: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> who voted no
  1034. 02:52:42: <Stargazing> y
  1035. 02:52:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4any characters to add?
  1036. 02:52:51: <Baby_Luigi> eh, I don't like Peach but I have the unupopular opinion here
  1037. 02:52:53: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I literally hated all of the broodals so it'd be hard to pick one or two
  1038. 02:52:58: <Baby_Luigi> Broodals
  1039. 02:53:06: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> can i just nominate Characters Anton Doesn't Like
  1040. 02:53:08: <Meta_knight> 10lets just add them all as a collective group
  1041. 02:53:09: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> as one big nominee
  1042. 02:53:10: <Meta_knight> 10throw in rabbids too
  1043. 02:53:13: <Baby_Luigi> They're one of the worst parts of Odyssey
  1044. 02:53:13: <McD> i've got to head to bed, goodnight
  1045. 02:53:16: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> night
  1046. 02:53:18: <smasher> zero 2 from kirby voted no
  1047. 02:53:31: <Lakituthequick> if any it would be harriet because i don't like her alugh at all
  1048. 02:53:45: <Baby_Luigi> idk people like Harriet
  1049. 02:53:51: <Baby_Luigi> I have no idea why she's an annoying turd
  1050. 02:53:52: <Lakituthequick> did they
  1051. 02:54:05: <Anton{Politoed}> 4if I had to choose one to like it'd be hariet
  1052. 02:54:13: <smasher> a broodal/rabbid wouldnt be a bad addition
  1053. 02:54:18: <Anton{Politoed}> 4I think spewart looks the dumbest
  1054. 02:54:25: <Gamefreak75> rango > the others dont @ me
  1055. 02:54:25: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> because people wanna fuck her
  1056. 02:54:30: <Gamefreak75> ^
  1057. 02:54:31: <Baby_Luigi> why
  1058. 02:54:34: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> furries
  1059. 02:54:35: <Baby_Luigi> she's a fucking rabbit
  1060. 02:54:36: <Gamefreak75> furries
  1061. 02:54:40: <smasher> furries
  1062. 02:54:43: <Lord_Bowser> im feeling very awkward and anxious but im hwre
  1063. 02:54:47: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> hi lb
  1064. 02:54:55: <Meta_knight> 10it be like adding one koopaling though
  1065. 02:54:56: <Lord_Bowser> spewart is easily the worst
  1066. 02:54:59: <Turb> i just think she has a good design compared to the rest of them
  1067. 02:55:00: <Meta_knight> 10as opposed to all of them
  1068. 02:55:22: <Gamefreak75> id be fine with grouping them all tbh
  1069. 02:55:23: <Meta_knight> 10but 5 nominees for something all the sam eis also terrible
  1070. 02:55:31: <smasher> idk if i would add a group of characters for worst character
  1071. 02:55:35: <Lakituthequick> it's a dishonour to be on this poll so i feel fine adding just one
  1072. 02:55:36: <Baby_Luigi> I like Madame Broode the most because she's the most over-the-top
  1073. 02:55:48: <smasher> even if they probably deserve it
  1074. 02:55:58: <smasher> i dont oppose adding just one
  1075. 02:56:03: <Baby_Luigi> Spewart has a dumb design
  1076. 02:56:13: <Lakituthequick> broode is pretty funny yeah
  1077. 02:56:43: <smasher> which one was spewart i cant fucking remember the males names
  1078. 02:56:47: <Baby_Luigi> It's Morton Bunny
  1079. 02:56:55: <Lord_Bowser> the one who spits poison
  1080. 02:56:58: <smasher> ok that was my guess
  1081. 02:57:05: <smasher> hes bad
  1082. 02:57:31: <Baby_Luigi> Rango looks quirky and Topper is bland as far as i'm concerned
  1083. 02:57:34: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok idk how to approach this so
  1084. 02:57:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4are there any other characters beyond broodals people want to add
  1085. 02:57:52: <Lakituthequick> fwiw there was a suggestion to add Jojora to this in the general discussion thread
  1086. 02:57:55: <Meta_knight> 10rabbids
  1087. 02:58:02: <Baby_Luigi> Yeah I remember that
  1088. 02:58:03: <Lakituthequick> no opinions otherwise
  1089. 02:58:06: <Baby_Luigi> but idk how terrible she is
  1090. 02:58:14: <Baby_Luigi> She has only one small appearance as a minor boss fight
  1091. 02:58:17: <Anton{Politoed}> 4she got no votes ever so I'm not considering it
  1092. 02:58:32: <Anton{Politoed}> 4are any rabbids distinguishable enough or just
  1093. 02:58:34: <Baby_Luigi> Rabbids..do they even count?
  1094. 02:58:34: <Anton{Politoed}> 4"Rabbids"
  1095. 02:58:34: <smasher> im not familiar with jojora enough but if thats the case probably not
  1096. 02:58:46: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> jojora is really minor
  1097. 02:58:54: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> one boss fight in one game
  1098. 02:58:58: <Lakituthequick> exactly my thoughts
  1099. 02:59:03: <Baby_Luigi> exactly too
  1100. 02:59:05: <Turb> jojora exists for the whole level i think but she's really minor
  1101. 02:59:08: <smasher> rabbids might count since when theyre not in costumes theyre all the same
  1102. 02:59:11: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> she does
  1103. 02:59:12: <Turb> i think rabbids are just rabbids
  1104. 02:59:14: <Baby_Luigi> As for Rabbids, idk it feels weird because they're not Mario characters
  1105. 02:59:15: <Turb> no distinct characters
  1106. 02:59:26: <Baby_Luigi> Rabbid Mario, Rabbid Luigi, Rabbid Peach, and Rabbid Yoshi
  1107. 02:59:29: <Lakituthequick> per blof
  1108. 02:59:31: <Anton{Politoed}> 4there is a Worst Enemy award but they're not really enemies
  1109. 02:59:37: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but we'll get to that when we get there
  1110. 03:00:08: <Baby_Luigi> All of those Rabbid protagonists in the Mario + Rabbids are interchangeable to me
  1111. 03:00:09: <smasher> i think im indifferent to adding a rabbid
  1112. 03:00:33: <Baby_Luigi> Rabbid Peach is...ugh
  1113. 03:00:36: <Anton{Politoed}> 4ok so we can do both broodals and rabbids similarly, by choosing which of the 4 you would want to add, if any at all
  1114. 03:00:37: <Shoey> i'm against adding rabbids
  1115. 03:00:43: <Lakituthequick> the 'character' rabbids are just rabbids cosplaying if anything
  1116. 03:00:55: <Meta_knight> 10as much as i hate the rabbids i agree with whats been said
  1117. 03:00:57: <Baby_Luigi> Well they do have their own personalities too
  1118. 03:01:07: <Meta_knight> 10like we've never added final fantasy characters even when they made a cameo
  1119. 03:01:15: <smasher> fair
  1120. 03:01:17: <Baby_Luigi> They're not Mario character so
  1121. 03:01:22: <Baby_Luigi> I'm not for adding them
  1122. 03:01:27: <Gamefreak75> no ones suggested them tbh
  1123. 03:01:28: <Meta_knight> 10if theyre popular as a write in then we can consider them
  1124. 03:01:35: <Lakituthequick> ^
  1125. 03:01:38: <smasher> ^
  1126. 03:01:40: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: If we're to add any broodal to F1, please select which one (Hariet/Rango/Spewert/Topper/a)
  1127. 03:01:41: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> ^
  1128. 03:01:44: <Turb> spewart
  1129. 03:01:46: <Gamefreak75> sp
  1130. 03:01:47: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> a
  1131. 03:01:48: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Spewart
  1132. 03:01:48: <Baby_Luigi> Spewart
  1133. 03:01:48: <smasher> spewart
  1134. 03:01:50: <Lakituthequick> Hariet
  1135. 03:01:55: <Meta_knight> 10spewart
  1136. 03:01:58: <__2257> 7s
  1137. 03:01:59: <Baby_Luigi> (as much as I want to add Harriet)
  1138. 03:02:18: <smasher> 1-0-7-0-1
  1139. 03:02:28: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr8
  1140. 03:02:31: <smasher> spewart it is
  1141. 03:02:31: <Lord_Bowser> spewart
  1142. 03:02:39: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add "Spewart" to F1? (y/n/a)
  1143. 03:02:44: <smasher> 1-0-8-0-1
  1144. 03:02:45: <smasher> y
  1145. 03:02:45: <Anton{Politoed}> 4e*
  1146. 03:02:46: <Baby_Luigi> y
  1147. 03:02:46: <Lakituthequick> y
  1148. 03:02:48: <Shoey> a
  1149. 03:02:51: <Anton{Politoed}> 4y
  1150. 03:02:56: <smasher> 4-0-1
  1151. 03:02:57: <Turb> y
  1152. 03:03:01: <smasher> 5-0-1
  1153. 03:03:06: <Lakituthequick> Spewart, with an a
  1154. 03:03:14: <Gamefreak75> y
  1155. 03:03:19: <Anton{Politoed}> 4is it ??? I copy/pasted it
  1156. 03:03:24: <Anton{Politoed}> 4let me check again
  1157. 03:03:24: <smasher> spewaart
  1158. 03:03:24: <__2257> 7a
  1159. 03:03:24: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> a
  1160. 03:03:25: <Turb> yeah it's spewart
  1161. 03:03:26: <Lakituthequick> Spewart is correct
  1162. 03:03:27: <Turb> in the dialogue
  1163. 03:03:37: <smasher> 6-0-3
  1164. 03:04:19: <Lakituthequick> https://www.mariowiki.com/Spewart
  1165. 03:05:04: <Lord_Bowser> im a bit confused as to why you highlighted it if it was correct
  1166. 03:05:19: <Gamefreak75> lol
  1167. 03:05:27: <Stargazing> a
  1168. 03:05:37: <smasher> 6-0-4
  1169. 03:06:37: <Anton{Politoed}> 4whoops i had to afk suddenly
  1170. 03:06:41: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but spewart is added
  1171. 03:07:52: <Anton{Politoed}> 4one more vote and i'll close the meeting
  1172. 03:07:53: <smasher> anything else?
  1173. 03:08:00: <smasher> oh lol
  1174. 03:08:01: <Anton{Politoed}> 4Vote: Add any Rabbid to F1? (y/n/a)
  1175. 03:08:08: <smasher> n
  1176. 03:08:09: <Gamefreak75> y
  1177. 03:08:10: <Lakituthequick> n
  1178. 03:08:13: <Anton{Politoed}> 4if Y we'll pick something
  1179. 03:08:18: <Anton{Politoed}> 4but I say n
  1180. 03:08:23: <Shoey> n
  1181. 03:08:25: <Turb> n
  1182. 03:08:29: <smasher> 1-5-0
  1183. 03:08:35: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> n
  1184. 03:08:40: <smasher> 1-6-0
  1185. 03:08:53: <Anton{Politoed}> 4gr8
  1186. 03:09:06: <smasher> the rabbids go free
  1187. 03:09:15: <Baby_Luigi> n
  1188. 03:09:18: <Meta_knight> 10n
  1189. 03:09:24: <smasher> 1-8-0
  1190. 03:09:27: <Anton{Politoed}> 4so I'll go lob stuff on the forum
  1191. 03:09:43: <Anton{Politoed}> 4and next meeting we'll finalize that all and continue with Fail Awards
  1192. 03:09:55: <Anton{Politoed}> 4we did it
  1193. 03:10:02: Anton{Politoed} 4bangs the gavel against 22's head
  1194. 03:10:04: <Turb> :clap:
  1195. 03:10:05: <Raiko_Chaorikawa> :clap:
  1196. 03:10:08: <Turb> pastebin later
  1197. 03:10:10: <__2257> 7ow
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