CloudGamingNoThx

Cloud gaming is the equivalent of using a touchscreen
for button heavy games: Absolute trash


5.6.23
https://www.ntower.de/news/85465-playstations-cloud-gaming-ceo-yoshida-sorgt-sich-um-technische-stabilit%C3%A4t-des-di/

19.12.2022
if Witcher 3 and NMS can run, KH should sprint https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/ycsoho/cloud_gaming_hate_in_the_community

Why does every Nintendo Switch CLOUD game suck ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZruj7DpAZY

Cloudgaming down
https://nitter.it/xboxsupporty/status/1533173916650246144#m
https://nitter.it/Mephisto_Gaming/status/1533189687925428225#m

20.11.2022 All Cloud Games suck
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZruj7DpAZY

29.10.22 This Cloud Version of Resident Evil: Village was tested on 100MB UW Broadband over WiFi along with 5G mobile connection. https://www.nintendolife.com/reviews/switch-eshop/resident-evil-village-cloud

2022-10-09
 Logitech G https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GSxSHN8W9sk

29.9.22  ===== ! Bye Stadia ! ===
 https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/23378721/google-stadia-shutting-down https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/80182123
Hey now c’mon, that’s not fair - there is a use case for this tech. I remember distinctly the excitement in the Stadia Reddit from the thousa… er hundre… er dozens… no, wait, the people, lots of people who want to play the latest games without owning any gaming kit. You’re just a local-processing luddite!
https://www.eurogamer.net/stadia-is-shutting-down-in-january?view=comments
https://www.ntower.de/news/82056-google-stadia-wird-beerdigt-alle-jemals-get%C3%A4tigten-k%C3%A4ufe-werden-erstattet-und-sp/

26.09.22
https://gbatemp.net/threads/logitechs-new-cloud-handheld-gaming-device-releases-next-month-will-retail-for-350.619336/

20.9.22
The unstable people who voted for the cloud version of Kingdom Hearts
 should NEVER be allowed to touch any other game than Monopoly, but only if played with an always losing Satan.
https://www.nintendolife.com/features/talking-point-what-on-earth-is-going-on-with-square-enix

17.09.2022
Jo. Das Spiel wird "gestreamt". Deswegen kostet es Square Enix auch sehr viel Geld wegen Webinfrastruktur etc. pp. Deswegen ist das Angebot auch relativ bescheiden und zudem bekommst Du nur zwei Jahre garantiert, wenn Du es "kaufst". Wenn Du noch eine andere Konsole hast, dann hol Dir die Kingdom Hearts-Spiele dafür
https://www.ntower.de/news/81795-square-enix-startet-großen-sale-im-nintendo-eshop/


13.9.2022 Nothing's worst than looking underneath your bedframe and find a cloud version of your Switch games. https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/xd9ath/nintendo_switch_resident_evil_cloud_series/

9.9.22
 420 megs datausage for 5 min gameplay
https://twitter.com/aoikurayami1/status/1567216823120297984
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Em7dY8rHw&list=PLsvKzct5-R6LuIaDzewbSJufCcBVMVYWX&index=1

12.Aug.2022  "Cloud is coming" the same way "smartphones will soon replace consoles" for twenty years now, "offices will soon be entirely paperless" since the early 1980s and "3D is the future" since the 1960s. It's a technological advance that has many benefits and is gaining a lot of support but also does not suit every situation and never will, at least not until the entire planet is blanketed in fast, 100% reliable Internet access. https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/08/thymesia-cloud-version-drops-on-switch-next-week-alongside-pc-ps5-xbox

02.Aug.2022
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/08/logitech-and-tencent-games-are-working-on-a-cloud-based-handheld-console

1.8.22
Stadia may not deliver a great gaming proposition but it reliably brings out the low-lives https://www.eurogamer.net/google-insists-stadia-is-not-shutting-down?view=comments

23.7.22
•15-minute sessions, with Android's integrated data-tracking features. Our gameplay sessions averaged around 590MB over that window, translating to an estimated 5.2Mbps, or 2.36GB per hour https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-pass-xcloud-android-internet-requirements-and-data-usage#:~:text=We previously tested Xbox cloud,or 2.36GB per hour.
•At 480p quality I.e 5mbps Bitrate at 30fps it'll consume about 800Mb-1.5GB per hour  https://www.reddit.com/r/cloudygamer/comments/k37xgv/data_usage_of_cloud_gaming/

16.07.22
sobald es keine Konsole mehr gibt, die ohne Internetverbindung funktioniert, werde ich mich komplett ins Retrogaming verziehen. https://www.ntower.de/blog/artikel/4498-die-letzte-generation-klassischer-konsolen/

30.6.22
It worries me that Cloud gaming is the future. And I’m sure with the consistent improvements being made for after internet, it’ll be gaming as we no it. Not anytime soon I’ll add but it’s a rough future to think of not owning your games. But I’d say pretty accurate. https://mobile.twitter.com/Skull_Kidsx/status/1542674499631448064

12.06.22
Which is still a stupid thing to do. I'd rather have nothing as my Country literally does not sell/support Cloud Games. https://nintendoeverything.com/square-enix-reports-that-neo-the-world-ends-with-you-failed-to-meet-sales-expectations/#comment-5860930244

27.05.22
https://www.eurogamer.net/microsoft-decides-to-pivot-away-from-xbox-game-pass-streaming-box-for-now

23.5.22
Crashing The Switch Cloud "Port" of Kingdom Hearts
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WI_h8tVFfC0

19.05.22
The game is so unplayable Nintendo refunded me for it.
I had to call into the customer service line and they didn't even fight me on it.
https://js4.red/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/uq62r6/kingdom_heart_cloud_versions_get_busy_servers/

22.04.22
EdgeOfEternity NSwitch https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GJCoLY-4dcE

9.4.22
Let’s say the cloud gaming worked absolutely fantastic and I saw no issues with cloud gaming on Switch.
The games are still only available in Japan, America, Canada, and certain parts of Europe. Everyone outside of there just has tough luck. Which sucks since that alienates a good portion of their fanbase https://www.metacritic.com/game/switch/kingdom-hearts-hd-i5-+-ii5-remix-cloud-version/user-reviews

03.4.22
I have 400 Mb/s internet, and my switch is connected to ethernet. The cloud version demo keeps saying my internet connection is not sufficient https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomHearts/comments/s876xa/i_have_400_mbs_internet_and_my_switch_is/

23.02.22
Our infrastructure simply isn't there yet. There are loads of countries where cloud gaming doesn't exist.
Plus, nobody likes the fact that cloud games essentially are a license to a temporary product that will disappear forever. Look at Stadia--nobody talks about it anymore for that reason.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/02/edge-of-eternity-cloud-version-launches-on-nintendo-switch-today



2020 (Alt: 30€/Month shadow.tech/de)


4.2.22
Fighting Yozora on Switch be Like (KHIII wifi) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZDNbsVdXK0

29.01.22
Cloud: 149ms lag
NativePC: 93ms lag
(wifi adds 30ms lags)
8:56 Looks like a youtube vid from 10 years ago
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*With Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and 2.5 Remix,
the games are so old and technically so basic,
there is no need to use the cloud.
Switch should be handling these natively and at 60fps.
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there are profound issues with the concept. First of all, there's the idea that compromised experiences are being sold at so high a price. Secondly, the execution seems alien to the Switch concept itself. This brilliant mobile system is no longer particularly mobile when such close proximity to a router is required. I did try these titles using a 4G connection, by the way, but the experience predictably didn't work particularly well.
* For his part, John utilised his existing 100Mbps home connection. Based on what we've seen from the captures taken from the system in docked mode, Switch cloud titles deliver a 720p video stream, with the games themselves seemingly set to output a matching 720p resolution (the exception being Hitman 3 - this seems capable of outputting a native 1080p rendered image, downscaled to 720p before being beamed across the internet). Bandwidth seems to be limited as macroblocking is clearly visible on high colour, fast-moving content, looking at its least impressive when blown up to a flat panel living room display. Kingdom Hearts 3 suffers especially for this. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2022-switchs-cloud-based-gaming-system-tested
*Cloud Gaming, and the adoption of NFT technology by companies like SquareEnix and Ubisoft, are a nightmare-case scenario for consumer ownership.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/01/digital-foundry-gives-its-assessment-of-cloud-gaming-on-switch

19.Jan.2022 https://www.vg247.com/square-enix-should-be-ashamed-of-the-kingdom-hearts-release-on-switch


"Switch Stream games"
•CloudVer = Bare Minimum m.youtube.com/watch?v=hPv-mcEZyHc&t=1266s
•DigitalOnlyConsoles: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZKU9Ader3I

•gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79411410/952959927
•I have a very fast Internet connection, it plays incredibly well for me, but there’s literally 0 point in these cloud ports existing. I can’t take Control or Hitman outside with me because they require a constant stable internet connection to run. You have to remember that these games aren’t running natively, the games are being streamed to the Switch via servers. js4.red/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/ms0pid/nintendo_reached_out_to_io_interactive_for_the
control: Ultimate Edition - Cloud Version (Switch) Review
*input lag
*can`t use "any" other device online while playing it...
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OeANr0tSSpw

*Cloud gaming is crap as a concept 1) You need constant access to the internet which means if you were to try and play on the go you would constantly have to connect to different wifi spots and then can't play when there isn't one 2) Even if you do have a constant connection, the quality of the connection is constantly in flux. The signal strength will be variable causing lag in the game stream which will hamper gameplay and result in stuttering and constant buffering 3) You have to rely on the company's servers to be running even if everything is optimized on your end. Servers go down, and at some point in the future they will inevitably shut them off. At least with a digital download you have access to the data and can back it up on harddrive or other memory storage. f*** cloud gaming
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79252162

*Between the energy required to power those servers and to deliver the content to your screen, cloud gaming can drive up gaming's overall energy use. That means that if cloud gaming takes off, gaming's carbon footprint could rise, too — unless companies take notice and green their data centers.
polygon.com/features/2020/10/14/21449158/cloud-gaming-ps-now-geforce-project-xcloud-environmental-impact

*Cloud Gaming - ScottTheWoz m.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ZLFSeSz8E
Microsoft is doing this too, with a native version of Flight Simulator on Series X but a cloud port to Xbox One gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79697217/958758862
FinePrint /CloudVersion/
m.youtube.com/watch?v=wtyOXjxjhk8&t=700s

NSwitch and CloudGames|MVG
m.youtube.com/watch?v=8XTCSQa68Zw

In simple terms, this review would not recommend playing Nintendo Switch’s Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy: Cloud Version over the standard version. Whether in docked mode with an ethernet connection or in handheld mode with Wi-Fi, the game was almost always playable but frustratingly inconsistent on a technical level. Sometimes the resolution could be impressive, and other times it was far too blurry. Load times could be better too. Lag caused by streaming resulted in occasionally jarring frame rate issues, and the audio could sometimes desync from the cutscenes or cut out completely. Input lag when the game was underperforming was annoying to deal with as well https://www.nintendoenthusiast.com/marvels-guardians-of-the-galaxy-review-nintendo-switch-cloud-version/


Which means you should DEF not buy it,
if you enjoy gaming as it is right now. Don't fall for this.
Or you'll enjoy an /always on/ and 0-preservation future.
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/79703743?page=6#68
nintendoenthusiast.com/does-switch-cloud-streaming-work-game-performance
gbatemp.net/blogs/f-k-cloud-gaming.18548

As much as I think Game Pass is a great deal and In-Home Streaming works pretty well if you've got your network done up proper, Cloud Gaming with Game Pass has been among the weakest in performance for me versus PlayStation Now, GeForce Now and Stadia (haven't tried Amazon).  https://gbatemp.net/threads/nacon-releases-new-wireless-phone-controller-grip-for-use-with-xbox-game-pass-on-mobile.602351/#post-9646391






Wir haben eine 100er Leitung die mir auf der Xbox Series und auf allen anderen Geräten geschmeidige 95-110 MBITS liefert. Kann nichts schiefgehen, oder? Mhmm…. Habe Hitman ausprobiert (WLAN) und das war ne grausame Erfahrung….. Kingdom Hearts -> ebenfalls grausam….. Bin mega skeptisch und werde Gameplays abwarten https://www.ntower.de/news/80663-cloud-version-von-pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous-erscheint-diesen-september-f/


Das Leid der Cloud-Versionen
Schließlich noch einige Worte zur technischen Umsetzung, denn diese ist aus meiner Sicht der größte Kritikpunkt. Bei der Nintendo Switch-Version von Edge of Eternity handelt es sich um eine Cloud-Version. Während ich dem Cloudgedanken grundsätzlich nicht negativ eingestellt bin und durchaus die Vorteile darin sehe, stellt sich mir hier dennoch die Frage: Warum? Das Spiel wirkt grafisch zwar sehr ansprechend, dennoch sollte die Nintendo Switch es problemlos auch nativ abspielen können. Auch komplexere Berechnungen oder ähnliches kann ich auf Anhieb nicht sehen, wodurch die Cloudumsetzung einfach nur überflüssig wirkt. Noch dazu ist die Umsetzung alles andere als gut und reibungslos.
https://www.ntower.de/test/3545-edge-of-eternity-cloud-version-switch/


**Die Gefahr ist dann aber das die Devs faul bzw. Die Publisher geizig werden und anstatt tatsächlich Ports zu schreiben einfach sagen: ne Stream Version reicht auch......und irgendwann sind dann bis auf Nintendo Eigenproduktionen und Indies alles nur noch Streams. Das ist auch ein Versuchsballon der Publisher...... ntower.de/community/thread/79510-unternehmen-hinter-der-cloud-technologie-von-control-ultimate-edition-cloud-vers/?postID=1607757#post1607757

•Aber mal generell zum Spiel. Hab es mir kurz als Demo angeschaut... Man kann von der Qualität des Spiels sagen was man will ABER wenn es möglich ist Doom Eternal, Hellblade, usw. relativ gut lauffähig auf der Switch zu machen, da sehe ich das nur als Faulheit der Entwickler an, wenn sie so ein Spiel als Cloud Version veröffentlichen. Ich könnte mir sowas bei The Medium (mit Raytracing), Cyber punk 2077 vorstellen aber Hitman 3 sieht nicht so aufwendig aus, dass es nicht auch (mit Abstrichen) nativ auf der Switch laufen könnte. ntower.de/community/thread/81145-hitman-3-wird-herunterladbare-zusatzinhalte-erhalten-details-stehen-noch-nicht-f/?postID=1643141#post1643141

•Jedoch zeigen auch Portierungen von AAA-Titeln wie The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, dass dieser Weg teilweise besser funktioniert. Solche Ports benötigen aber gewisse finanzielle Mittel und Entwicklerstudios, die solche Portierungen stemmen können. Ein weiteres Problem: Kauft man sich eine Cloud Version eines Spiels, erhält man lediglich das Recht dieses Spiel im Rahmen des Services spielen zu dürfen – wird der Service eingestellt oder ähnliches, habt ihr auch das Recht für den Titel verloren und könnt den Titel nicht mehr streamen.
 https://www.ntower.de/news/77821-cloud-gaming-auf-der-nintendo-switch-digital-foundry-bewertet-den-service-in-ein/