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An awesome spoilercast like this deserves TIME STAMPS. Please like if useful. 00:00 - Intros 01:00 - Dr Uckmann “Controversy” 01:35 - Ads for KF 03:00 - “Future Days” as the connective tissue of the game / “One Night Live” Event 06:34 - When did you know you’d come back to TLoU? 09:00 - Was there hesitation coming back? (Ashley) 11:06 - Was there hesitation coming back? (Troy) 13:47 – Is Joel’s character on a pedestal from Part 1? (Neil) 15:16 - Joel in Part 2 vs Part 1 and criticism from audience about Joel (Neil) 16:20 – Criticism of Joel (Troy) 18:48 – Respecting the character, “deserving” death in the world of TLoU (Neil) 19:24 – Ellie as Protagonist and Ashley as Lead in Part 2 (Ashley) 21:58 – Preparing for The Scene (Troy) (a Must Watch) 24:30 - “Nobody loves this character more than me…except maybe Troy Baker” (Neil Interlude) 24:46 - Preparing for The Scene (Troy) Continued 25:38 – Directing and Prepping The Scene, Conversations with troy and Joel’s thought process (Neil) 28:18 – "There is only so much prep." Caring deeply about and as the characters (Ashley) 30:22 – Evoking dread/anger and being uncomfortable (Neil) 31:38 – Leaks and Death in context (Neil) 32:09 – Watching the Leaks in Real Time and the lack of context (Neil) 38:02 – Was the game a hard sell for PlayStation? (Neil) 39:53 – What Is the Message of Part 2 for you? (Greg) 40:32 – What Is the Message of Part 2 for you? (Ashley) 42:38 – What is the Message of Part 2 for you? Obsession, Sins of The Father, in conversation and a continuation of Part 1 (Troy) 46:13 - What Is the Message of Part 2 for you? In conversation with Part 1, Love - best and worst aspects, human decisions and ego (Neil) 47:29 – Multiple Interpretations (Greg) 48:49 – Listener Q: Symbolism of the moths (Neil) 50:15 – Symbolism of Light and Dark…and why is Abby so jacked??? (Greg) 51:48 – Answer. (Neil) 52:21 - Abby’s life purpose was not to kill Joel (Neil) 52:55 – Joel and Abby’s arcs are similar. A story of redemption. (Neil) 53:22 – Doing the Flashbacks - non linearly especially the Museum (Troy) 55:49 - Doing the Flashbacks – nostalgia and sadness (Ashley) 57:29 Bye Troy 58:15 - Recording capsule scene in the museum/ father daughter moments(Neil and Ashley) 1:01:20 - How long have Joel and Ellie not spoken to each other (Salt Lake City to Barn scene)? (Greg) 1:03:50 – Porch Scene (no hug) (Neil) 1:05:30 – Listen Q – Is Ellie returning to Jackson? (Greg) 1:06:57 – Is Ellie returning to Jackson? (Ashley) 1:07:30 – Is Ellie returning to Jackson?(Neil) 1:08:25 - Is Ellie returning to Jackson? (Ashley continued) 1:09:10 - Is Ellie returning to Jackson? (Greg continued) 1:10:55 – “Ellie’s obsession with Abby is like a drug addict” and letting go of the addiction (Neil) (Must Watch) 1:11:37 – Interpretation of Ending as a Revenge Story: Ellie and Abby’s actions (Ashley) 1:13:03 - Interpretation of Ending as a Revenge Story: Ellie and Abby’s actions (Neil) 1:13:45 - "There is no Right answer." Criticism of the ending (Neil) 1:14:15 - Listener Q: What was the decision around the ending of the game? (Revenge is hollow?) 1:17:00 - Answer: Abby v Ellie (Neil) (Must Watch) 1:18:10 - Listener Q : Too dark? Seeing the best and worst in humanity (Neil) 1:20:01 - Why make us play as Abby? (Greg) 1:20:40 – Answer (Neil) 1:21:45 – Characters making the choices that the player doesn’t want them to make (Greg) 1:23:08 – Ellie is trying to be Joel …and she isn’t. Being inside Ellie's head (game play v cut scene). Alignment of player and character (Neil) 1:24:40 – Playing Ellie – her choices and motivation as an actor and playing PTSD (Ashley) 1:26:50 – Joel, Ellie and Abby’s arcs parallel - “Quieting inner demons and trauma” (Neil) 1:27:30 – Abby saves Ellie. “There is no relief” (Ashley) 1:30:11 – Where did the character of Abby come from? (Neil) 1:31:56 – How Laura Bailey came to be Abby. (Neil) 1:35:17 – Listener Q: Why was there such an effort not to talk about Abby early in reviews/spoilercasts? Was not done by or for PR (Neil) 1:38:50 - Listener Q : Character of Lev and included a trans character? Addressing criticism and use of dead name (Neil) 1:42:48 - Listener Q : Favourite moment to shoot? Grow House sequence with Dina and porch scene with Joel (Ashley). Shannon Woodward shout out 1:44:11 – Don’t forget Neil’s “sex scene” (trolls) 1:44:20 - Listener Q : Favourite moment to shoot? Porch scene with Joel (Neil) 1:45:15 - Listener Q : Favourite moment to shoot? Ellie and Tommy scene after Joel’s death (Ashley continued) Jeffery Pierce shout out 1:45:38 - Tommy and Ellie’s final scene and mirroring (Neil) 1:47:15 – Listener Q : “Take On Me” moment. Why that song. Making amazing moments optional (Neil) 1:49:14 – RETURN OF THE VITA 1:49:58 – Listener Q : “Future Days” release date vs outbreak? 1:50:40 – Listener Q : What does new menu screen mean after finishing the game? (Abby Lives!) 1:51:41 – Listener Q: Are there plans for DLC? 1:52:30 – Listener Q : Anna/Abby/Pregnant women comic book mix-up 1:53:20 – Listener Q: Was Ellie secretly Joel's hairdresser? 1:54:10 - Steimer Q: Why does Owen not notice Abby’s injury (noose)? 1:55:35 – Laura Bailey is awesome and deserves some good vibes sent her way. 1:56:13 – Thanks to Neil and Ashley. Thanks for hosting this show Greg. I think it's the best from KF yet!
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