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<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to tc_hydro --
<Ardy> !rcon mp_timelimit 0
<CafeBarista> iikka connected.
<CafeBarista> Snacks disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Snacks connected.
<CafeBarista> JoshuaC connected.
<CafeBarista> Erich connected.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: i feel quite important
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Thank you Ardy
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: getting in with no password
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n connected.
<Ardy> the server crashed, so the password was lost momentarily
<Ardy> pro tip: do not kick replay
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: a moment was all i needed :D
<CafeBarista> Snacks disconnected (No Steam logon).
<CafeBarista> Jake changed name to Jake | Recording!
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Hahaha
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better! connected.
<CafeBarista> ShinyMew connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: well that took like 3 weeks
<CafeBarista> SoreBean connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: HI
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Hello Iikka.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: hi iikka
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: anyway, yeah. hi everyone
<CafeBarista> Snacks connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: you're a bro
<CafeBarista> Zhan: hello!
<Penguin> Hi Iikka.
<CafeBarista> Seba: you should be here penguin
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Hi Iikka
<Ardy> I should be there too, but I cannot :(
<CafeBarista> Erich: penguin get your penguin butt on here
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: it's been forever since I last played this map haha
<Penguin> Erich: I am a little busy but I hope you guys have fun!
<CafeBarista> Havoc teh Raven connected.
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: this must've been a pain to make
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Nerdboy: penguin did ted turn you gay and a half yet
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: Penguin i love you
<CafeBarista> iikka: it's pretty funny
<Penguin> nerdboy: this is not a productive area of discussion
<CafeBarista> iikka: I did spend a lot of time on it
<CafeBarista> Seba: how long did it take you to make this map? sorry if you've been asked this before
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Penguin, finish Super Scout Bros
<Penguin> What were you thinking when you designed the hydro dish point?
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: :C
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy you keeping a record of this chat like you did last time?
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: there should be like an achievement for defending this
<CafeBarista> iikka: that location was originally based on the Arecibo radio telescope
<Ardy> 100000 line scrollback in xchat
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: the one from goldeneye?
<Ardy> so hopefully thats enough
<CafeBarista> iikka: it was just a cool thing to make.. it was in a james bond movie yeah
<Penguin> Why did you make the actual capture point so tiny in contrast to the massive dish?
<CafeBarista> Zhan: it is really one of the most unique CPs in the game
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: stickies lawl
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: if you knew back then that this map will turn out rather underplayed, what would you have done differently?
<CafeBarista> Erich: Was barnblitz your map, or was it the new person's
<CafeBarista> Snacks: I support this question
<Penguin> So many questions!
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Haha
<CafeBarista> iikka disconnected (iikka timed out).
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: lol
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: lets wait for an answer now
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: I am recording over here
<CafeBarista> Snacks: :(
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: :p
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Yes
<CafeBarista> void connected.
<Penguin> show's over go home
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: frozen's mic killed his pc
<Penguin> alright everyone get out
<CafeBarista> iikka connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: AGH SCOUTS
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: iikka dont you scare us like that
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Hehe
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Is it Ick-uh or Eek-uh
<CafeBarista> Seba: what is your favourite snack from the Valve snack bar
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: ^
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Oh boy
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: If my mic sounds like its being eaten, even though its on the other side of my head.
<CafeBarista> iikka: it's hard there are so many
<CafeBarista> Seba: do you prefer to eat healthy or the unhealthy stuffs
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: Twinkies and Ho Hos
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Wait. Obligatory "Are you a My Little Pony fan"
<CafeBarista> iikka: more healthy stuff... odwalla is like a liquid snack
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin connected.
<CafeBarista> Zhan: odwalla is great stuff
<CafeBarista> Goo connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* (TEAM) Jake | Recording!: Sentry down
<CafeBarista> Erich: Was barnblitz your map, or was it that new guy's map? Dario said it was yours on his day
<CafeBarista> iikka: no, barnblitz is from the community
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :O
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Nice
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: iikka, My question is....How do you feel when you hear someone's doesn't like your map?
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: someone*
<CafeBarista> iikka: usually I try to figure out what they don't like
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Hey cool Void's here too
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Iikka, what is your proudest mapping accomplishment?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: thought it was mostly furries
<CafeBarista> iikka: not at the moment, I'm working on some counter-strike stuff
<CafeBarista> Seba: is there anything major comiing to CSS?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Nerdboy: grid_nerdboy
<CafeBarista> iikka: can't really comment right now
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oooooh,
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Nerdboy: i count for 5 votes
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: I'll take that as a yes c:
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Ardy: Move it on to Badlands!
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Next map he means
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Snacks: Doing anything with DOTA 2?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: AHHHHHH
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: sometimes
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: I play archer a lot
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: oh its suddendeath
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: what is one thing about today's TF2 that you stronlgy disagree with?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Haha
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: they have a "make a map" button
    <CafeBarista> Seba: like a difference between launch TF2 and today's TF2
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Badlands, Ardy.
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: we dont
    <CafeBarista> iikka: strongly disagree? hmm
    <CafeBarista> Seba: or like the least
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: i map one map, compile another. no problem
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Valve have playtesters that get paid, so they put up with a lot of crappy test versions
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: I thought playtesters were volunteers :S
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Goo: i wanna play halo maps on tf2
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: I'll volunteer
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I think one disadvantage it has is that it's become much more complex and maybe harder for new players for that reason
    <CafeBarista> kankuro195 disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
    <CafeBarista> Moos connected.
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Hey Ardy!
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Hey! Hey!
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Badlands please.
    <CafeBarista> iikka: sorry, too many people talking at once
    <CafeBarista> Seba: waht is your stance on community theme packs, like Swamp, Construction, and Bullet Crops
    <CafeBarista> Nerdboy: what is your favorite beer?
    <CafeBarista> SoreBean: wHERE DO YOU WORK?
    <CafeBarista> iikka: arena is kind of a throwback to a quake mod called rocket arena.. I don't think that style of play is very popular these days
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: :/
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: didn't fattony make arena_hydro?
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: that was pretty fun
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Erich: WHO MADE THE HYDROSHIELD
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: ^
    * Ardy (Ardy@cpe-75-84-200-20.socal.res.rr.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I like it in short bursts, like just deathmatching for a bit
    <CafeBarista> (TEAM) Randdalf: what's the hydroshield?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: it's those props around the dish
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: oh them
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: >Prop
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: the best prop is oildrum001
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: why?
    <CafeBarista> iikka: on the community theme pack thing, I like the idea a lot
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: badlands spire > all
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: they are in every custom map
    <CafeBarista> Seba: have you downloaded the Construction Pack, Iikka?
    <CafeBarista> * Fr0z3n points to the construction pack... sorry, has 2 arena maps :/
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: well, 1.
    <CafeBarista> (TEAM) Randdalf: stop asking loadsa questions seba :P
    <CafeBarista> Seba: no
    <CafeBarista> iikka: haven't downloaded it, no
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Have you played arena_hardhat at all?
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy, could we switch to Badlands?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Nerdboy: no
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: badlands bestmap
    <CafeBarista> iikka: no, I don't really play tf2 a lot these days
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: waht is your favourite gamemode?
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: iikka, why does the stickies bounce off this surface?
    <CafeBarista> void: What is your stance on a multi-stage KOTH map?
    <CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Iikka have you contributed to Team Fortress in any non-mapping way?
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Okay, what's your favourite game at the moment? What are you hooked to?
    <CafeBarista> iikka: aah too many questions lemme think
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: next question earns a ban
    <CafeBarista> iikka: on non-mapping stuff, the whole game design is a group effort
    <CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: Kill Marry Fuck one..... Robin Walker, Gabe Newell, Dave Riller
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy!
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: !fb nodraw :O
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Hahahaha
    <CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: what about community map
    <CafeBarista> iikka: haha that's a loaded question
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: soo many questions o.o
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* void: do you think i'm cute
    <CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: \
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I'll pick a community-ish map - the last halloween map was awesome
    <CafeBarista> Seba: ofc it's YM's map ;)
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Youme's?
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: It's ace
    <CafeBarista> JoshuaC: Do you think updating arena_watchtower to give it better visuals would be a good idea
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: How about a view?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: :P
    <CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: yes joshua
    <CafeBarista> Seba: what's your opinion on CTF, Iikka?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Ardy
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I like CTF enough that I tried to improve on 2fort
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: :D
    <CafeBarista> Seba: oh really? how?
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: doublecross
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: doublecross is a great map in my opinion
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Alpha test tuesday, eh
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka is there a map of yours you would play first? We seem to be lackign our admin to change maps. He's disappeared.
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Never knew
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Haha
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: So when he comes back, which would you like first
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: badlands now?
    <CafeBarista> iikka: badlands is ok
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: I should put Muschio on there so you can feel pain every week
    <CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: is there any big differance between the the valve version of hammer and the one that consumers can get?
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: ARDY
    <CafeBarista> iikka: really any level order is fine with me :)
    <CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: iikka Do you like playing your own maps?
    <CafeBarista> void: iikka would you date me
    <CafeBarista> Seba: do you work with any other world editors besides Hammer?
    <CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: JIF or Peter Pan
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* (TEAM) Jake | Recording!: spy as me
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I do like playing them, it's like building a house and then living in it and enjoying it
    <CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: iikka can you give me a comm. weapon?
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: lol
    <CafeBarista> iikka: no
    <CafeBarista> iikka: haha
    <CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: I tried
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oh, Iikka, Do you think Hammer will be getting any upgrades or changes to it sometime in the future? It's pretty dated.
    <CafeBarista> iikka: good question
    <CafeBarista> Seba: can you give 3dnj a comm weapon because he still hasn't gotten any
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: can you give him a community hat instead?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* void: can you give me a kiss instead
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: 3dnj definitely has a comm weapon
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: it's a comm rocket launcher iirc
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Or Doc
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: The TF2M Lazy 72 hour contest?
    <CafeBarista> iikka: is the portal2 hammer out yet? I haven't really been following what's out in terms of mod development tools
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Yeah, it is
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: yeah
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: yes it is
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: it's great
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: iika, TF2Maps.net recently had a 72hr mapping contest, what is your thoughts on speed mapping? and have you tried it
    <CafeBarista> iikka: should be able to build TF2 in that
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Haha
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: really!
    <CafeBarista> Zhan: that would be worth a shot
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: p2 sdk has a number of improvements to the orange box sdk
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: surely it'd look the same
    <CafeBarista> JoshuaC: Not really
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Hey Ardy or Doc
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: the only difference is the env_projectedtexture
    <CafeBarista> JoshuaC: It's pretty much the same as the orangebox sdk
    <CafeBarista> Goo disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: lightmap scale 1 and youre good :D
    <CafeBarista> Rexy connected.
    <CafeBarista> iikka: sorry what was that?
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Who made the hydroshield props
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Who made the hydroshield prop.
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Erich: the props around the hydro dish, who made them
    <CafeBarista> iikka: oh those
    <CafeBarista> Erich: the man needs a medal
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: and a promotion
    <CafeBarista> iikka: I think it was Laura Dubuk
    <CafeBarista> void: and a hug
    <CafeBarista> Seba: how many modellers do you have over at Valve anyway
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: surely that's miningcrate001
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Whoever made them. Next time you see them, hug them and tell them the entire community of TF2Maps and Cafe of Broken Dreams
    <CafeBarista> Littleedge: Love her
    <CafeBarista> iikka: haha
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: oildrum.mdl
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: rtv
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: overlays/stain
    <CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: rtv
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: nominate
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: badlandsspiredx8.mdl
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: nextmap
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: rtv
    <CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: RTV TO BADLANDS
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: nominate
    <CafeBarista> Snacks: rtv
    <CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: !nominate
    <CafeBarista> Randdalf: where'd ardy go?
    <CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: rtv
    <CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: rtv
    <CafeBarista> void: i should work on tachyon
    <CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: nominate
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<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: iikka, recently TF2Maps.net held a 72hr mapping contest, what do you think about speed mapping and have you tried it?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: voteban
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: !voteban
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: how long does it take you to detail a map once you've done the layout?
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Everybody rtv, get to Sawmill, rtv again, and success
<Ardy> sorry my internet died im back now
* #cafe-admin :Cannot send to channel (+m)
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Rexy: rtv
>nickserv< identify ****
-NickServ- You are now identified for Ardy.
* ChanServ gives channel operator status to Ardy
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: ARDY!
<Ardy> hi im back sorry
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: badlands please
<Ardy> my internet died
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy!
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Badlands please
<Ardy> !rcon sm_map cp_badlands
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to cp_badlands --
<CafeBarista> Rikka connected.
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: get to mid faster than scouts 8)
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Ardy can you find the line abut Laura Duburk and forward that to hibnikir
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: *hibikir
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: So Iikka, what was your inspiration to create the most overused prop in all of TF2?
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Who made the spire, Iikka
<CafeBarista> Rikka: i made it
<CafeBarista> Snacks disconnected (ERROR! Reliable snaphsot overflow.).
<CafeBarista> void disconnected (ERROR! Reliable snaphsot overflow.).
<CafeBarista> iikka: I think the spire was Moby Francke
<CafeBarista> Snacks connected.
<CafeBarista> Kira connected.
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: iikka, what do you think about speedmapping, and have you ever tried it?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: i have shield for the ovwerdose
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: who does?
<CafeBarista> Rikka: was tf2 supposed to teach about geological landforms, or was that an unintended side effect
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Hahaha
<CafeBarista> iikka: no, we're targeting the geology majors
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: we're the only gaming community to know what a hoodoo is
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: question from a sometimes competitive player: would you ever make another 5cp map (because badlands is perfection)
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: sorry, couldn't really hear all that
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: What do you think about F2P?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Rexy: O:
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Do you have opinions, did you have a say in it?
<CafeBarista> iikka: sorry, can you just type it?
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: What is your opinion about tf2 going free to play
<CafeBarista> Erich: what are your opinions about tf2 going free to play
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: What's your opinions on f2p tf2, did you have a say.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: 5cp map?
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: waht are you opinions on free to play and did you have a say in it 
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: yah
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: oh the free to play.. I wasn't involved
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Do you mind it? or not really care?
<CafeBarista> iikka: I don't really mind it
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: cool.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: why would he
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: we call badlands-style maps 5cp, whaddya call em
<CafeBarista> iikka: brings in more players
<CafeBarista> iikka: 5cp, I was just trying to figure out which question to answer
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Would you make a new 5cp map i think was the original question...
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Kira: last point=heavy.
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: lol
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: oops
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: DAMN
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: RAINBOWRIDE
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka: Tell Driller or Dario or another Level Designer to work on a tc map.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: revote
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: !revote
<CafeBarista> iikka: if I made another TF2 map it could be 5cp
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: What Little said
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: yay 5cp rules
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Oh good.  Get on that Iikka.  5cp will do great.
<CafeBarista> iikka: doublecross was originally 5cp
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :O
<CafeBarista> Rikka: what was yoru thinking behind the spire as the second point
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: what woould the say would be the key points in making a 5cp is?
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: *you say
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: the ones you control :P
<CafeBarista> iikka: but I then took the middle area of it and turned into CTF because there were like two CTF maps in the game
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: why? D:
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Havoc teh Raven: oh
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: cuz ur a h4x0r
<CafeBarista> Havoc teh Raven: :o
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better!: What's your favorite weapon in tf2?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: omg iikka hax
<CafeBarista> iikka: that would be this one
<CafeBarista> iikka: huntsman
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: hey iikka, did you see that rexy made the huntsman?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: MIC SPAM
<CafeBarista> Rexy: lol no
<CafeBarista> Rikka: don't be modest rexy
<CafeBarista> Rexy: yes?
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Iikka, what was your inspiration for being a level designer/artist/etc
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: Iikka how much money do you spend on keys, per month
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha I haven't bought any keys
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: Valve pays him in keys
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Mann Co Store Credit
<CafeBarista> iikka: I've been designing levels since 1994
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: I was 2
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: D:
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: What was the first game you designed for?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: 3...
<CafeBarista> iikka: Doom + high school
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: I wasn't born :D
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Nice
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka we need to know.
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Are you a My Little Pony fan?
<CafeBarista> SoreBean: harry potter or twilight?
<CafeBarista> (TEAM) iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: We asked Dario during Dario Day.  It's your turn.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Havoc teh Raven: ggs, sanctum time
<CafeBarista> iikka: sorry, I'm not
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Good.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: good.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Thank god
<CafeBarista> Havoc teh Raven disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Rikka: nextmap
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Nova| Replays are better!: nextmap
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: !nextmap
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: NOOOOOOOOO!
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: YES
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: lol
<CafeBarista> Rexy disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> JoshuaC disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: ES
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to pl_rainbowride_b5a --
<CafeBarista> Snap connected.
<Ardy> wait thats not supposed to happen
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: accident
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: D:
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: oh god what is this
<Ardy> the worst map
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: nominate
<Ardy> what should I change to
<CafeBarista> Seba: upwards
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: dont change
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: rtv
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: keep it rainbowride!
<CafeBarista> Seba: nucleus
<CafeBarista> Kira: rtv
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: what 
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: This is Iikka's best map
<CafeBarista> iikka: I should get a raise just for seeing this
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :D
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: :D
<CafeBarista> Zhan: hahaha
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ahaha
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oh, wait till you see the payload cart
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: is it a pony>?
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: This was the winner of our Orange Mapping Contest
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: We had to make a map using only dev textures
<CafeBarista> iikka: that makes sense
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Ardy, the server admin here, made this map.  The contest was created by Rexy here
<CafeBarista> Seba: nominate ornj_penguin_pakked
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: I'M ACTUALLY LOST
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: We'll let you experience it real quick
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: rtv
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: !rtv
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: rtv
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: upward now?
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Nucleus
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Hahaha the Gabe ending
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: I remember this
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Rikka: rtv
<Ardy> !rcon sm_map pl_upward
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: nucleus
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to pl_upward --
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: pootis
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Ohw ell
<CafeBarista> iikka: ok that map was pretty sweet
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: We'll go to nucleus after
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: haha
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: nominate
<CafeBarista> Seba: Iikka do you like bacon
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: was the speedmapping question answered?
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Iikka, what did you think of that last map
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: Iikka, did you ever watch MST3K?
<CafeBarista> Kira: wincest
<CafeBarista> iikka: I rarely eat bacon, but just recently my father-in-law gave us a bunch of wild boar bacon he hunted himself and it's awesome
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Iikka will valve be buying Rainbowride next week
<CafeBarista> Snacks disconnected (ERROR! Reliable snaphsot overflow.).
<CafeBarista> Snacks connected.
<CafeBarista> Zhan: wild boar is good stuff
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: was this difficult to make, with the whole circular thing going on?
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: iikka, what do you think about Speedmapping? TF2Maps.net had a 72hr mapping contest and had some amazing results.
<CafeBarista> Nova| Replays are better! disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka: Are there any new maps being developed right now?
<CafeBarista> iikka: speedmapping is fun, I like contests with limits like that
<CafeBarista> iikka: I once made a quake level with 100 brushes
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: you should have joined that then :p
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: You should try one sometime Iikka, and beat us to the ground
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: now THAT'S an idea for the summer
<CafeBarista> Seba: you should participate in the next 72 hour contest Iikka
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: 100 brush tf2 map
<CafeBarista> Zhan: iron mapper with valve mappers?
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: If you are bored, and have nothing else to do with your life, you should check out TF2Maps.net recent contest.
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: OR, make Iikka the judge!
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: iron mapper VERSUS valve mappers
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oh god
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: we'd kick their butt
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: OKAY THEN
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Are there any maps in development right now, Iikka
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Oh god
<CafeBarista> iikka: I don't work on maps in my spare time these days
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Stick em on TRAINGRID
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Lets see who's boss
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Erich: be_ballwater
<CafeBarista> Seba: Iikka can you have Valve make me a move_nope entity
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: lol
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: lol
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> Seba: it would be like move_rope but just not move
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: nominate
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: do you know why we need keyframe_ropes AND move_ropes and just not 1 entity?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: nice
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: i win
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: just me
<CafeBarista> iikka: move_rope starts the rope and keyframes add to it
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: @iikka, whats your favorite Color
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: answer in the form of a TF paint
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka, I'll be sure to send you, Driller, and Dario an email when we host our next 72 contest :D
<CafeBarista> SoreBean disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: I might hold a iron detailer comp :/
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: soonish
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: got whalerace on this server?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: sorry guys, I have to go, will probably be back soon
<CafeBarista> Zhan disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: what's your favourite control point that you've made?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: hydrodish obv
<CafeBarista> Erich: what kind of maps have you never finished?
<CafeBarista> iikka: favorite control point... I kind of like badlands middle
<CafeBarista> Rikka: what you allow me to consider you a father figure?
<CafeBarista> Rikka: would.   jerk
<CafeBarista> iikka: do I have to pay child support?
<CafeBarista> Rikka: no
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: in keys 
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: What do you do, when your not working on Valve related thing? Hoppies or anything?
<CafeBarista> Rikka: you have to pretend to like my grandchildren, though
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: hobbies*
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Yeah, that's a good question
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: hoppies, yeah
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: About the payload explosion
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Did you run out of time making a good one or?
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: i bet css goes f2p next
<CafeBarista> iikka: sometimes I do art or make something out of wood
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: woodwork is fun
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: so i can be on top again
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat connected.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: why is there nothing in this maps pit?
<CafeBarista> iikka: done a lot of home improvement lately
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Good at it?
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: I wish there was more combat on this part of the map where the cart is now
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: Iikka ia map building IN REAL LIFE
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: his house is brush based
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: isn't some german guy making de_dust2 in real life?
<CafeBarista> Fubar connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
<CafeBarista> iikka: the pit's empty because a good pit is its own reward
<CafeBarista> Rikka: i'm gonna assume you agreed
<CafeBarista> Ritz connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: How does Valve/Tfteam find community maps that go official?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Dark [Tf2m]: nextmap
<CafeBarista> Rikka changed name to rikka
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: nominate
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Do people just send them in, or do you look around forums?
<CafeBarista> iikka: we tend to just play a bunch of them
<CafeBarista> ShinyMew disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> iikka: both
<CafeBarista> Seba: rikka, add an i to your name
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Ah
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: have you played finalway_boss?
<CafeBarista> iikka: no
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: lol
<CafeBarista> Fubar: don't
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: never do it
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: No
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: arena_hardhat? :P
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: is playing community maps just part of the work day?
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: !nominate finalway_boss
<Ardy> what are the chances of pl_rainbowride going official
<CafeBarista> rikka changed name to riikka
<CafeBarista> iikka: yeah, about once a week somebody starts a playtest with a few community maps
<CafeBarista> Seba: oh that's cool
<CafeBarista> Seba: do you only consider fully detailed, beta maps?
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: have you played some of 72h maps?
<CafeBarista> iikka: I haven't 
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: SUPER SECRET GABE'S FRIDGE CLEARANCE
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: how many people are still on the tf2 team?
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Now I feel bad
<CafeBarista> iikka: well, I haven't been involved in tf2 very much so I don't know what's been on the server lately
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: did you work on half-life 2?
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Bummer. I'd love to know what you guys play.
<Ardy> iika when is dota 2 coming out?
<Ardy> *iikka
<CafeBarista> iikka: can't say
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: are the maps for DOTA 2 still made with hammer?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: will it have a lot of hats?
<Ardy> will I be able to make gimmick pudge hook maps?
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Why do no valve emplyees own microphones? I have played with you, Dario, Robin and Dave Riller and none of them spoke over mic!
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: there's a video on youtube of robin using a mic
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: ffff my replay download errored
<CafeBarista> iikka: actually some of us play with a mic here
<CafeBarista> iikka: I'm just lazy
<CafeBarista> Seba: lol
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> iikka: two years
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat: how much does she weight
<CafeBarista> Seba: waht is your mother's maiden name
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat: *weigh
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: are you iikka?
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: \
<Ardy> can you say how big the dota2 team is right now iikka?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: Just icefrog
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Or at least compare DOTA2 team to TF2 team - which is large and by how much
<CafeBarista> Zhan connected.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: what do you think about the effect of multiple heavy-medic pairs on tf2 dynamic?
<CafeBarista> iikka: my havorite color? not sure, depends on where I'm putting it
<CafeBarista> Seba: is it aquamarine
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fubar: hat color?
<CafeBarista> iikka: haha
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat: for window treatments
<CafeBarista> weapon_penguin: Are you and Dario good buddies?
<CafeBarista> iikka: just got some grey curtains that I like
<CafeBarista> riikka: i just ate an amazing cheeseburger.   do you wish you had that cheeseburger instead of me?
<CafeBarista> Seba: lmao
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: that's where I got the curtains
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :D
<CafeBarista> Snap disconnected (No Steam logon).
<CafeBarista> iikka: I considered making a fake sign to use in TF2 that would say "IIKKA furniture store"
<CafeBarista> Seba: lmao
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: YES
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: YOU NEED TO
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: furniture store theme
<CafeBarista> Seba: can I do that
<CafeBarista> Seba: I want to do that
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Do it, so badly
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Whoever does it, does their map become official?
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat: can I be Kanes
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: WHAT?
<CafeBarista> dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â· connected.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: nucleus?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Erich: nextmap
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to koth_nucleus --
<CafeBarista> Zhan: ardy
<Ardy> hi
<CafeBarista> [DADT] Pvt. Twinkletoes connected.
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Okay so, what was the inspiration for THIS map, Iikka?
<CafeBarista> Zhan: oh okay
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: who hosts the cafe ardy?
<Ardy> nfo
<CafeBarista> Fubar: what is this I don't even
<CafeBarista> Erich: rainbowriiiiiiiiiide
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: I thought arena was the real version of this?
<Ardy> arena is the better nucleus
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* riikka: ^
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: false
<CafeBarista> Zhan: koth is far superior
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: whats the better version of this map iikka?
<CafeBarista> Seba: iikka, would you convince Robin to buy a theme pack based on a furniture store called IIKKA
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: what was the quickest it took you to make a tf2 map?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: sorry, I was on the phone for a few minutes there
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: nominate
<CafeBarista> iikka: traveling is fun
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Do you enjoying traveling? or are you a stay at home kinda of person?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: nvm.
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Which of your five maps took you the least amount of time to make, Iikka
<CafeBarista> iikka: going to finland and then france later this summer
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: will you trade the reserve shooter for a summer crate?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Nice
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: Iikka do you know Tess Rinearson?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fubar: fuuu
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: hah
<CafeBarista> iikka: I don't know who that is
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: does valve just have a bunch of spare mod modelers? If not why are there so many hats?
<CafeBarista> AuraFox connected.
<CafeBarista> Zhan: she's a friend of mine who works for Valve
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: the ultimate question: favourite hat?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: :(
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: I have the most hats of anybody here
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Which of your five maps took the least amount of time to make, Iikka.  and how long?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: You have all of them, plus some only known to gabe?
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: errr, robin.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* iikka: nucleus was the fastest
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: how many unfinished tf2 maps do you have?
<CafeBarista> iikka: it took less than a month initially, maybe three weeks.. but then slower process of testing and improving
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: how do the diplacements in this map work? I never understood the process
<CafeBarista> AuraFox disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Yeah how did you manage the curves
<CafeBarista> Bocian connected.
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: just subdivide?
<CafeBarista> Seba: disps
<CafeBarista> iikka: it's pretty fidgety
<CafeBarista> iikka: subdivide isn't good enough
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: yeah i know, i tried :/
<CafeBarista> [DADT] Pvt. Twinkletoes: steel is a circle
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: does it involve tweaking displacements vertex by vertex?
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Man it's almost 2am
<CafeBarista> iikka: you can make a template out of brushes with the arc tool
<CafeBarista> iikka: then carefully match the displacement to it
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: ooo
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: ooooo wow
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: never thought of that
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* riikka: i have no idea what any of that meant
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: how did you make the hydro dish?
<CafeBarista> dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: ha
<CafeBarista> iikka: hydro dish - with great skill and patience
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :D
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: you can do it easily if you keep disp on grid and the set the exact vertex offset in geometry painting
<CafeBarista> riikka: i hate mapper language
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: like my castle towers are displacements exactly matched to geometry
<CafeBarista> iikka: sorry, which tool?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fubar: it's not evil
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Carve
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: carve
<CafeBarista> iikka: carve
<CafeBarista> iikka: oh
<CafeBarista> iikka: it's a trap
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: hahaha
<CafeBarista> riikka: have you seen the video of the kid making his map wiht carving
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oh god not that map
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: there's a video on youtube of some guy carving a sphere into a box to make terrain
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: nonononono
<CafeBarista> iikka: I think the carve tool has been there since prehistory of man
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: isn't that how half-life 1 was made? 
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: It was used to kill Mammoths in the stone age
<CafeBarista> dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: carving
<CafeBarista> Moos: So it has enough sentimental value that you can't remove it?
<CafeBarista> iikka: and nobody ever uses it, so they don't know it exists 
<CafeBarista> iikka: so it won't be removed
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: lol
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Yes please
<CafeBarista> dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: i heard that there wouldn't be an upgrade
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Also include that 'Make Map' button that you guys have
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: when can i stop crashing when looking for a texture?
<CafeBarista> iikka: don't know at all
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: when is hammer getting a "make a map" button
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: isnt vdc a wiki
<CafeBarista> iikka: I have to leave in about 15 minutes.. did you want to play doublecross?
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: what are your thoughts on random map generation? (if you have any)
<CafeBarista> riikka: ARDY
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: DOUBLECROSS TIME
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: ARDDDD
<Ardy> hi
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: E
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Doublecross!
<CafeBarista> riikka: SWITCH TO DOUBLECROSS RIGHT NOW
<Ardy> !rcon sm_map ctf_doublecross
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: XX now
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to ctf_doublecross --
<Ardy> server is still full 
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Best CTF map in TF2, methinks
<CafeBarista> Fubar disconnected (No Steam logon).
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: i really love this map
<CafeBarista> AuraFox connected.
<Ardy> I agree
<CafeBarista> Moos: iikka what is your favorite snack
<CafeBarista> Dark [Tf2m]: iikka, why don't you have any valve weps?
<CafeBarista> Bocian: hai Aura
<CafeBarista> dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: :P
<CafeBarista> iikka: I rarely play on public steam
<CafeBarista> Snacks disconnected (No Steam logon).
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Because no-one needs a sniper rifle more OP'd already?
<CafeBarista> func_door connected.
<CafeBarista> iikka: we do our inhouse tests on a closed system
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: Feel free to invite some TF2Map players to those tests.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TheHarriboKid: how come we saw barnblitz on a public server?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: *cough*
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Littleedge: :P
<CafeBarista> Ritalin Rat disconnected (No Steam logon).
<CafeBarista> Fubar connected.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: why does this map has those rather unaesthetic diagonal roofs cutting into wall at a diagonal angle :@
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: How many playtesters do you have on average for each game test team, Iikka?
<CafeBarista> [DADT] Pvt. Twinkletoes: this map was better when it had 3 moons
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: didn't this displacement in the middle used to be a different texture?
<Ardy> I agree bring back 3 moons
<CafeBarista> iikka: sorry, phone again
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Kira: !revote
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Jake | Recording! :  How many playtesters do you have on average for each game test team, Iikka?[
<CafeBarista> Seba: are you discussing secret Gaben-level clearance stuff
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Oh noes
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Iikka, you should invite TF2Maps.net regulars to your closed tests. Yep.  Good idea.
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: like me
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Moos: and me
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Seba: make it not TPG
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: TF2maps regulars should be regulars at the closed tests
<CafeBarista> func_door: im here now
<CafeBarista> func_door: guys stop talking about getting into closed tests
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: well
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: funcy ardoor?
<CafeBarista> iikka: it's like a different instance of steam, it's not connected to the public
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: Do you ever NOT finish a map? Something you don't feel good about and therefore quit working on?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* AuraFox: nope
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: I agree
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: THIS is a closed...not really a test but still
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* func_door: rainbowride next official map
<CafeBarista> iikka: yeah I have had several maps that I never finished
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: iikka almost said it but the map changed  :p
<CafeBarista> func_door: nfo
<CafeBarista> func_door: yes
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: :o
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: we will never know the fate of rainbowride
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: are there a lot of unfinished tf2 maps/
<CafeBarista> func_door: we have the third tier version
<CafeBarista> func_door: becaues we like throwing money at tf2
<CafeBarista> Zhan: iikka do you enjoy skiing?
<CafeBarista> func_door: also replays eat up resources like a hog
<CafeBarista> iikka: I used to ski when I was little and lived in finland
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: iikka, how much do you deadlift?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* AuraFox: nominate
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Zhan: nordic skiing, then?
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: My kid is gonna be called badlandsspire.mdl
<CafeBarista> iikka: downhill skiing, much easier to go up the hill in a lift
<CafeBarista> Moos: rofl
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Dark [Tf2m]: lol
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* AuraFox: beiber tower for next official map
<CafeBarista> AuraFox: beibertower was used in ETF2L tournament finals
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: image rights
<CafeBarista> PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: Do you come up with the layouts as well as detail them?
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: rainbowride cant be discussed just like cs2 and dota2 :D
<CafeBarista> iikka: varies from map to map
<CafeBarista> Kira: blasphemy
<CafeBarista> Fr0z3n: Do you do your own custom assets, or just make a list and other people make them for you?
<CafeBarista> iikka: nucleus was almost all my effort, others like badlands had more people working on them
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: some of your own custom**
<CafeBarista> Kira disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Terwonick connected.
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: do you use propper? :D
<CafeBarista> Moos: Is ball escort going to be an official gamemode
<CafeBarista> Seba: waht did other people do on badlands?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: I'm a heavy that just capped the flag
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: Come on BLU
<CafeBarista> Terwonick: finally
<CafeBarista> Zhan: cp_slush money
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* TheHarriboKid: we should
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: Iikka, ask Robin to make a Hydro Disk hat
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: *dish
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* weapon_penguin: When is this map getting 7 moons again
<CafeBarista> iikka: when I'm working on a map here it makes sense to have other team members building models
<CafeBarista> iikka: so it all gets done in parallel
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Bocian: :O
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* PlipPlop the Last Ploo Ploo: hydrothunder
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Makes sense.
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Have you guys ever produced custom assets for maps and then never released the map?
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: NOOOOOOO
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Jake | Recording!: DAMN
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: And if so, have you thought about releasing those assets
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Fr0z3n: Or the assets.
<CafeBarista> func_door: iikka how is your name pronouned
<CafeBarista> iikka: yeah sometimes there are assets that go unused
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* dr. chicken Â·Æ’Â·: i_i
<CafeBarista> Seba disconnected (Disconnect by user.).
<CafeBarista> Dook N Cover! connected.
<CafeBarista> AuraFox: NEXTMAP
<CafeBarista> *DEAD* Randdalf: nextmap
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changing --
<CafeBarista> -- Map Changed to pl_barnblitz --
<CafeBarista> iikka: anyway, I have to go... have a good weekend everyone!
<CafeBarista> Randdalf: thanks for coming
<CafeBarista> Jake | Recording!: See ya Iikka!
<CafeBarista> TF2maps.net^])72]v[^SquadSapper: BYE
<CafeBarista> TheHarriboKid: bye
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: Have a good Anniversary weekend!
<CafeBarista> Littleedge: And thanks for coming
<CafeBarista> iikka: no problem :)  I had fun
<CafeBarista> riikka: thank ye, good sir
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