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[14:49:48] <JacobUX_> but I will make sure he does understand the dediction
[14:49:55] <JacobUX_> and the importance you guys are to the team
[14:50:00] <sevoque> JacobUX_:  ur missing the critical piece of info here, i dont care WHO wolong is or about his fan club, the moeny behind him or his promises of wealth etc. what ic are about is delivering a solid coin to the community and we are being prevented from doing that and that is it
[14:50:12] <sevoque> its not viable
[14:50:17] <sevoque> hes a massive liability
[14:50:21] <sevoque> shooting off his mouth at people non stop
[14:50:29] <sevoque> doesnt have a single answer for us about important stuff
[14:50:33] <sevoque> that we NEED TO KNOW to progress the coin
[14:50:35] <sevoque> so where does that laeve us?
[14:50:43] <mxtm> the pastebin has 713 hits already
[14:50:43] <JacobUX_> but
[14:51:03] <JacobUX_> ok he lost his cool and dumped a lot of his shares
[14:51:08] <JacobUX_> but he can also buy it all back
[14:51:09] <mxtm> almost all of them
[14:51:14] <sevoque> what difference that make to me?
[14:51:17] <sevoque> he can do what he wants
[14:51:21] <sevoque> hes been doing so all along anyway
[14:51:28] <JacobUX_> right
[14:51:35] <JacobUX_> im not sure what you want* form him
[14:51:37] <mxtm> and he never gave ANY premine for any giveaways or anything
[14:51:41] <sevoque> dude if uwant to bust ur balls doing dev work for the guy to take 250 btc and 1.5billion of your hard work then thats your decision
[14:51:44] <sevoque> but its beyond the money
[14:51:58] <mxtm> damn I feel like a cunty gold digger
[14:52:04] <JacobUX_> no that is the thing, he pissed me off and he knows it
[14:52:04] <mxtm> I still want money, dammmmn
[14:52:09] <JacobUX_> so let's just wait and see
[14:52:12] <JacobUX_> what he says
[14:52:32] <sevoque> dude someone said it right before though, the coin is too volatile for anyone to wantt to mine it anymore and his excuse is that this was engineered
[14:52:42] <sevoque> believe me, there is no way, with all his mighty power that he could engineer us being annoyed at him
[14:52:46] <sevoque> hes just a retard with money
[14:52:48] <mxtm> someone is kinda threatening to defame me now almost
[14:52:55] <JacobUX_> :(
[14:53:04] <JacobUX_> it's bad sevoque i agree 100%
[14:53:04] <sevoque> and like i said
[14:53:04] <mxtm> saying that they are going to tweet "mxtm was involves with this horrible scam coin that is fucking everything up"
[14:53:10] <JacobUX_> but will you stick around for me guys?
[14:53:10] <sevoque> he will bring all of our names in to disrepute as a result
[14:53:15] <sevoque> dude i wills tick around for u i said i would
[14:53:22] <sevoque> but im not going to be officially involved in any capacity
[14:53:27] <JacobUX_> thats fine
[14:53:30] <sevoque> because i cant in all good faith be involved when its affected everyone so negatively
[14:53:33] <[-wolong-]> so i suppose
[14:53:35] <[-wolong-]> im not needed here?
[14:53:41] <JacobUX_> dude
[14:53:43] <mxtm> no
[14:53:44] <sevoque> lol
[14:53:50] <JacobUX_> are you going to leave panda?
[14:53:54] <mxtm> [-wolong-] we need to figure something out
[14:53:55] <mxtm> right now
[14:54:03] <sevoque> i want jacob and wolong to talk this out iunfront of us
[14:54:05] <sevoque> and the rest of us shutup
[14:54:08] <mxtm> and I do not feel like being defamed right now
[14:54:10] -*- mxtm shuts up
[14:54:12] <evoked> JacobUX_, how much has he paid you
[14:54:15] <[-wolong-]> i just lost 2.5million usd because of this shit
[14:54:23] <sevoque> you are delusional
[14:54:24] <JacobUX_> how have you lost money?
[14:54:26] <JacobUX_> you cashed out dude
[14:54:29] <JacobUX_> I have lost the most
[14:54:32] <JacobUX_> i can't do shit
[14:54:35] <[-wolong-]> because i expected to cashout
[14:54:36] <JacobUX_> and I did all the work
[14:54:38] <evoked> how much have you lost
[14:54:44] <[-wolong-]> when price is right
[14:54:46] <sevoque> [-wolong-]:  and we expected honesty and transparency
[14:54:48] <[-wolong-]> and that would give me 2.5mil usd
[14:54:58] <[-wolong-]> sevoque, exactly
[14:55:04] <[-wolong-]> i was the first who provided
[14:55:07] <[-wolong-]> wallet
[14:55:09] <evoked> are you in denial mate
[14:55:11] <mxtm> I was hoping for like $8000 but
[14:55:12] <mxtm> whatever
[14:55:13] <[-wolong-]> i also tweeted entire ipo list
[14:55:14] <evoked> is your head feeling alright
[14:55:17] <JacobUX_> guys
[14:55:23] <sevoque> im gona be quiet and let him say his piece
[14:55:29] <JacobUX_> wolong you cant fuck oever everyone here without destroying the coin
[14:55:38] <JacobUX_> is what I am saying
[14:55:39] <[-wolong-]> basically
[14:55:40] <JacobUX_> *
[14:55:44] <[-wolong-]> i asked for blockchain to be up
[14:55:48] <[-wolong-]> before coin is release
[14:55:50] <JacobUX_> dude kidding me?
[14:55:52] <mxtm> ^
[14:56:20] <JacobUX_> I'm not even mad
[14:56:22] <[-wolong-]> and my letter stated clearly
[14:56:26] <[-wolong-]> all devs to hold coins for 6months
[14:56:27] <JacobUX_> I am shocked and awed disapointed
[14:56:30] <[-wolong-]> people started questioning about
[14:56:32] <[-wolong-]> where devs wallets are
[14:56:36] <[-wolong-]> none of you even provided to update
[14:56:39] <[-wolong-]> on the first thread
[14:56:41] <mxtm> I did not get any letter
[14:56:51] <sevoque> [-wolong-]:  i pasted my wallet publicly with my 20m in with screenshot on btc talk thread
[14:56:55] <sevoque> i have nothing to hide
[14:56:55] <JacobUX_> wolong they can cash out if they want to
[14:56:59] <sevoque> only you
[14:57:02] <JacobUX_> their shares are not 100s of millions
[14:57:09] <JacobUX_> you cashed out 50% of your 1.6 B
[14:57:11] <mxtm> I only had 5m anyway, which is nothing to you
[14:57:12] <[-wolong-]> sevoque, its not in the first page, how do you expect people to read through tonnes of threads?
[14:57:14] <mxtm> STILL nothing to you
[14:57:25] <sevoque> i dont mind repasting it, but uknow what, i was never asked to make my awllet public in the first place
[14:57:31] <sevoque> so i did that as a matter of encouraging trnsparency
[14:57:36] <[-wolong-]> see JacobUX_
[14:57:37] <JacobUX_> wolong you shit on all of us, after we did too much work for you
[14:57:37] <[-wolong-]> this is the part
[14:57:42] <[-wolong-]> i wanted pandas to be above 250 satoshis
[14:57:46] <[-wolong-]> near 500 satoshis
[14:57:47] <mxtm> I gave up my week of vacation
[14:57:48] <mxtm> for you
[14:57:49] <[-wolong-]> all of your sell holders
[14:57:53] <[-wolong-]> cause 2nd ipos to sell out
[14:57:57] <[-wolong-]> don't push blame to first IPO
[14:57:58] <[-wolong-]> reason is simple
[14:58:00] <[-wolong-]> all first IPO
[14:58:04] <[-wolong-]> ARE 100% Held by me
[14:58:06] <[-wolong-]> that is why
[14:58:09] <[-wolong-]> molly address wasn't out
[14:58:09] <JacobUX_> but bro... even if my devs cashed out
[14:58:11] <[-wolong-]> same goes to others
[14:58:16] <JacobUX_> so what about molly and me
[14:58:18] <JacobUX_> we lose again?
[14:58:23] <JacobUX_> what is the end game
[14:58:23] <[-wolong-]> no
[14:58:33] <sevoque> [-wolong-]: jacob and artis did not tell any of us guys that we need to make our wallets public
[14:58:41] <mxtm> I am getting spammed
[14:58:42] <JacobUX_> yea dude
[14:58:45] <mxtm> on IRC right now
[14:58:46] <sevoque> the mention of public wallets was made by YOU 
[14:58:50] <mxtm> saying that your network is about to be taken down
[14:58:51] <JacobUX_> they can cash out if they want to
[14:58:52] <sevoque> to provide security to the community
[14:58:53] <[-wolong-]> yes JacobUX_ why havent you done that?
[14:58:56] <mxtm> and seriously yeah
[14:59:18] <JacobUX_> because they can cash out their shares if they want it's not going to affect the market
[14:59:18] <[-wolong-]> u see
[14:59:22] <[-wolong-]> that's the part
[14:59:22] <JacobUX_> you dumping is
[14:59:29] <sevoque> [-wolong-]:  please dont try and pass the blame to jacob, u are the one who is at fault here, u dont hafve any answers for eveyrone, your just trying to place blame on someone else because you're not motivated to build something for the community in any capacity
[14:59:36] <sevoque> u have done ZERO work but expect everyting to be done for you
[14:59:37] <[-wolong-]> i already told you i need full instructions to be follow if you want panda to be hot
[14:59:42] <sevoque> the most you have done is distributed some coins
[14:59:51] <[-wolong-]> 0 work?
[14:59:54] <[-wolong-]> u want to ask mintpal
[14:59:58] <[-wolong-]> how much support i done for them?
[15:00:04] <[-wolong-]> so that chinese understands?
[15:00:04] <sevoque> [-wolong-]: where is the support for us?
[15:00:10] <JacobUX_> woah the mintpal thing is me though
[15:00:13] <sevoque> for the guys who are doing the work day to day
[15:00:13] <JacobUX_> I set you up with Jay
[15:00:15] <JacobUX_> to begin with
[15:00:17] <mxtm> fuck, I should have just taken my vacation
[15:00:20] <mxtm> and not gotten involved
[15:00:22] <[-wolong-]> well haven't i reply to forums as well?
[15:00:30] <sevoque> with ridiculous posts
[15:00:32] <sevoque> insulting people
[15:00:35] <sevoque> how does that build confidence?
[15:00:38] <sevoque> ur telling peoples kids to die
[15:00:41] <sevoque> what the fuck is wrong with you?
[15:00:42] <JacobUX_> bro wolong you got too caught up in #cryptomarkets
[15:00:49] <JacobUX_> and not enough time focusing on the project
[15:00:53] <mxtm> I wasted $130 on you
[15:00:59] <mxtm> which is also a lot of money to me man
[15:01:01] <JacobUX_> you have a psychotic club that is insane
[15:01:06] <mxtm> I could have donated that to someone
[15:01:11] <mxtm> or used it for something real
[15:01:28] <sevoque> [-wolong-]: how u think u can go back to your group and tell them that this wall masterminded by you is a joke mate, you have made everyone unhappy and thats why we are walking. you add no value to the project, you are a leach
[15:01:37] <sevoque> and the project would have succedeed to a much bigger extent without you
[15:01:47] <sevoque> and guess what, now you have completely destroyed your name for everyone to see
[15:01:55] <sevoque> so im glad you cashed out
[15:02:00] <sevoque> because u wont be making any more money in crypto for a long time
[15:03:09] <mxtm> now that I really think about that
[15:03:13] <mxtm> I lost $130 for nothing
[15:03:21] <mxtm> by following your instructions I only got MORE losses
[15:03:22] <JacobUX_> I think #cryptomarkets got to his head and it's totally fucked everything
[15:04:20] <mxtm> JacobUX_: he also sent 1 PANDA to me
[15:04:28] <mxtm> which I will take as shitting on my head
[15:04:29] <mxtm> lol
[15:04:37] <evoked> JacobUX_, you should take responsibility from here if these were your soldiers that you brought on
[15:04:37] <JacobUX_> you're joking :P
[15:04:40] <sevoque> its gobsmacking
[15:04:41] <[-wolong-]> so we let pandacoin ends then
[15:04:52] <sevoque> i smacked my gob because of u
[15:05:01] <JacobUX_> godamnit [-wolong-] this coin was the shit
[15:05:07] <JacobUX_> why the fuck you panic sell
[15:05:09] <sevoque> [-wolong-]: u know what, have enough respect for all the hard work eveyrone has done ... seemingly for you
[15:05:10] <JacobUX_> like a noob
[15:05:28] <mxtm> [-wolong-]: at least give up the fucking coins so we can try to pay back the people who lost thousands
[15:05:33] <[-wolong-]> i did not panic sell
[15:05:37] <mxtm> yes you did
[15:05:40] <defrostr> pandacoin still has market cap, and miners, and trading volume.  this can be fixed.
[15:05:41] <[-wolong-]> i got real piss at pandawest
[15:05:44] <add1ct3dd> where did the 600m from ur account go then
[15:05:44] <[-wolong-]> ask him what he said to me
[15:05:47] <JacobUX_> FUCK PANDAWEST
[15:05:48] <sevoque> [-wolong-]: grow up man, this has nothing to do with pandawest
[15:05:51] <JacobUX_> he is not me and artis
[15:05:52] <mxtm> WHO CARES ABOUT PANDAWEST
[15:05:53] <add1ct3dd> such lies
[15:05:55] <mxtm> SERIOUSLY
[15:05:57] <mxtm> HE IS ONE GUY
[15:06:04] <JacobUX_> pandawest did the windows wallet
[15:06:06] <[-wolong-]> fine im lying
[15:06:09] <[-wolong-]> then there's no reason to talk
[15:06:12] <-- [-wolong-] (GOD@unaffiliated/-wolong-/x-6530709) has left ##unobtanium-dev ("Leaving")
[15:06:13] <mxtm> what