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[19:03:36] <Aphtonites> welp
[19:03:37] <Aphtonites> http://www.byond.com/forum/?post=1274919
[19:03:49] <Aphtonites> apparently all free byond members are cancer that don't help the site
[19:04:15] <Silento> well byond's a cancer so do they cancel out?
[19:04:51] <Aphtonites> also apparently ss13 is the ugliest byond game
[19:04:57] <Aphtonites> it's not the prettiest game but christ
[19:05:21] <Silento> it's all perspective
[19:05:46] <Aphtonites> it's a step above anime weedgoku 420 online reloaded
[19:06:14] <Silento> show them a traitor getting superlubed into his own grinder trap
[19:06:18] <Silento> that's beauty
[19:06:28] <@hukhukhuk> the mc escher of byond
[19:06:41] <@Keelin> haha
[19:06:44] <@Keelin> its tobba
[19:07:03] <Aphtonites> mc escher is a good comparison
[19:07:09] <Jerkops> Right now, they're milking a cow dying from hunger instead of simply feeding it (even though doing so would be harder)
[19:07:22] <Jerkops> that is such a great metaphor
[19:07:25] <@Keelin> however
[19:07:28] <Jerkops> i'm going to use that sometime
[19:07:28] <Aphtonites> one of the artists on sa should draw a picture of what ss13 would look like if the perspective was real
[19:07:30] <@Keelin> he does have a few points
[19:07:36] <Jerkops> (what the hell is he talking about)
[19:07:43] <Aphtonites> people would look like as if they are crawling over the floor
[19:07:51] <Aphtonites> facing up
[19:08:22] <Silento> when you fall you just rotate
[19:08:36] <Aphtonites> how the heck would you go through airlocks
[19:08:51] <@Keelin> actually , he has a whole lot of point
[19:08:51] <@Keelin> s
[19:09:11] <Aphtonites> atm byond should consider doing something to optimize the code
[19:09:18] <Aphtonites> it would help get more players interested
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[19:10:16] <Aphtonites> howdy pacra
[19:10:36] <Aphtonites> when will we get our daily goat placenta picture of the day from you
[19:10:43] <@Pacra> sooon.....
[19:11:04] <Supernorn> Space Station 13: none of my friends came here because of Space Station 13, the Anime Games were the ones which attracted them
[19:11:23] <Supernorn> love BYOND forums
[19:11:43] <Supernorn> <Aphtonites> one of the artists on sa should draw a picture of what ss13 would look like if the perspective was real 
[19:11:44] <oop> nothing to be surprised about
[19:11:44] <Supernorn> wat
[19:11:51] <Jerkops> came for the gokus, stayed for the farting spacemen
[19:11:55] <Supernorn> it'd look like an escher painting
[19:12:00] <Supernorn> with chairs on the walls etc.
[19:12:01] <Chair> lol
[19:12:10] <@Shitbot> [[US] Gibbed 4] Starting new round!
[19:13:02] <Aphtonites> p much supernorn
[19:13:03] <Supernorn> once SS13 moves off BYOND i guarantee there will be tryhards that say how much they hate the new version and how BYOND SS13 is the game in its purest form.
[19:13:22] <Silento> is the non-byond version dead?
[19:13:45] <Aphtonites> SS13 is like humanity
[19:13:48] <Supernorn> dont make me hurt you Silento 
[19:13:48] <Jerkops> of course supernorn
[19:13:54] <Aphtonites> we need to get our butts off BYOND as soon as possible
[19:13:55] <@Pacra> lol silento
[19:14:02] <Aphtonites> or we'll be p much fucked
[19:14:14] <Silento> like I know these things
[19:14:14] <Supernorn> there are already apologists saying how the new graphics are terrible compared to the byond graphics, which now have 'charm' hehhh.
[19:14:24] <oop> it isn't as if BYOND is getting worse... right?
[19:14:36] <Supernorn> i think the new update has ads? so don't update byond.
[19:14:38] <Aphtonites> i think the old graphics had a charm since it reminded me of old dungeon crawler games
[19:14:44] <Aphtonites> but it's still bad
[19:14:50] <Silento> you have to update byond once in awhile
[19:14:54] <Aphtonites> an upgrade will be p fun
[19:15:04] <Silento> I hadn't updated for like 2 years and pods wouldn't work for me until I did
[19:15:07] <Aphtonites> did any one of you accidentally upgrade byond
[19:15:08] <Nitrous> anyone who defends byond ss13 is a moron
[19:15:13] <Supernorn> people said the same thing when these graphics replaced exadv1's. It's just an amusing comparison :P
[19:15:13] <Nitrous> its a shit game and you know it
[19:15:15] <Silento> I couldn't get the rightclick option for it
[19:15:15] <Aphtonites> if so i can give you an installer
[19:15:33] <Aphtonites> Supernorn one of the dudes in that thread said that SS13 is the ugliest byond game ever
[19:15:40] <Aphtonites> since you resprited almost everything in ss13 how do you feel
[19:15:48] <Supernorn> because it has handmade art and the sprites weren't ripped from RPG MAker.
[19:16:06] <Supernorn> well, those tree sprites were.. but i didnt have anything to do with that :P
[19:16:07] <nana> there is something charming about an ice cream cone the size of a man
[19:16:24] <Silento> whoops didn't realize you worked on it, supernorn, my bad
[19:16:29] <Jerkops> whenever i think about the ss13 remake i imagine ss13 on steam and how amazing that would be
[19:16:37] <Jerkops> thousands of people playing ss13
[19:16:42] <Aphtonites> ss13 pre order bonuses
[19:16:47] <Aphtonites> a toolbox replacement for the scout's bat in tf2
[19:16:50] <Silento> clown as a job option
[19:16:52] <@Keelin> [18:16:27] <Jerkops> whenever i think about the ss13 remake i imagine ss13 on steam and how amazing that would be
[19:17:01] <nana> cakehat obv.
[19:17:09] <Silento> butthat for tf2
[19:17:11] <@Keelin> whenever i think about it i think about all the work we still have to do
[19:17:14] <Supernorn> Aphtonites byond's art is a terrible mess of conflicting perspectives and i could have tried harder to correct that. But I am correcting that for the new ss13.
[19:17:33] <Aphtonites> Yeah
[19:17:34] <Nitrous> ss13 on steam would probably be a trainwreck
[19:17:40] <Jerkops> yes
[19:17:46] <Jerkops> and that would be awesome
[19:17:46] <Aphtonites> It's great that you can push your spriting skills to it's full potential with more room to work with supernorn
[19:17:48] <Silento> it's already a trainwreck
[19:17:50] <Aphtonites> spriting in 32x32 isn't fun
[19:17:58] <Supernorn> anything off BYOND is an instant improvement.
[19:17:59] <Aphtonites> Also I'd love to help you guys on the remake in some way :(
[19:18:00] <Nitrous> i can imagine how how many dota 2 nerds would get banned 
[19:18:06] <Nitrous> can't*
[19:18:07] <@Keelin> norn is the best
[19:18:12] <@Keelin> his stuff is great
[19:18:12] <Jerkops> a gabe newell-sized trainwreck
[19:18:17] <Remmon> Nitrous, all of them.
[19:18:18] <@Keelin> im also talking like he isnt here
[19:18:33] <Aphtonites> supernorn probably saved ss13 by respriting it
[19:18:45] <Nitrous> yeah but thats still two hundred thousand people to ban
[19:18:45] <Supernorn> people would have played it even if it looked ugly.
[19:18:46] <Aphtonites> otherwise people would think ss13 is just another crappily sprited byond game
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[19:18:58] <Aphtonites> there would've been less players tho supernorn
[19:19:11] <Aphtonites> i remember when bay wanted to resprite their own server before devstation was made
[19:19:12] <Jerkops> the good/bad thing about a steam version of ss13 would be that anyone banned from one server would have a choice of dozens more to go to
[19:19:34] <Supernorn> since goonstation released the code there are already quite a few to choose from.
[19:19:50] <Nitrous> also
[19:19:50] <oop> hukhukhuk told me off about using the port-a-medbay to teleport myself
[19:19:53] <Aphtonites> it's p simple
[19:19:54] <Supernorn> before it was goonstation or be outcast to the shit servers 
[19:19:55] <Nitrous> will the remake be open source
[19:19:59] <Aphtonites> nox is a bad server
[19:19:59] <oop> is this because doing so makes you hitler or something?
[19:20:01] <Aphtonites> tg and goon are p good
[19:20:11] <Aphtonites> just don't join servers with infamous admins
[19:20:17] <Supernorn> i dunno if tg was really a big thing at the time.
[19:20:27] <Aphtonites> not at that time
[19:20:31] <Aphtonites> but it's p big now