Vigil - Today at 3:10 AM
I even record video for me voting everytime.
NuLL - Today at 3:10 AM
I wish i could do that
I'll have to take one on my phone for this week
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 3:11 AM
well imma gonna wait for jach and bosslady to wake up in like 5-6 hrs and see wat they say. or wenever they wake up
Siller - Today at 3:13 AM
its like our ex bf/gf asking to make up but will they abuse us again (although some of us might like it)
XD
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 3:13 AM
lol im a bitter and a giver lol
im like xmas all year round. im the gift that keeps on giving LOL
Arsinoe - Today at 3:14 AM
:christmas_tree: :gift:
Vigil - Today at 3:14 AM
@ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧  Giving free DNA
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 3:15 AM
arsi did u msg bron about u wanting to talk to her b4 giving a decision??
Vigil - Today at 3:15 AM
am trying to talk to bron in discord but need the friend request.
Arsinoe - Today at 3:16 AM
I didnt message her just yet. I told her already that I would get back to her with an answer in the morning
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 3:16 AM
oh okay
Arsinoe - Today at 3:16 AM
(I was hoping to talk to all you guys before I went to her)
^_^ - Today at 3:21 AM
i am gonna wait and see what bosslady has to say but i will be fine with this rules if they share 1 dgs everyday with west not just on TW days + removing that rule for abby that west has to mine outside crystal and them getting middle
we can mine outside crystals first but after they disappear we will go mid to mine
Vigil - Today at 3:22 AM
Guys
hear me out, dont get trigger
I donno if they purposely doing this or what.

what chu think
Arsinoe - Today at 3:23 AM
That person is Yatori.
^_^ - Today at 3:24 AM
i am not worried about the trolls in that nation
Arsinoe - Today at 3:24 AM
Yeah, could just be a troll move
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 3:25 AM
So u guys all accept of content changes?
Cause for me its hard to wake up for content
Even abyssal just sometimes i can attend for leadership quest
So if those rules goin good with ppl i can vote yes
Arsinoe - Today at 3:28 AM
@^_^ wants some changes to the Abyssal & DGS terms. I would like for west to be able to do more DGS and for us to conduct Abyssal like we use to where everyone mined outer crystals and then inner.
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AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 3:28 AM
Why they want west on outer crystals?
Arsinoe - Today at 3:28 AM
However, time is now a factor in deciding what we'll all do since they need to send the ally in the next 12-15 hrs
NuLL - Today at 3:30 AM
How many packs does mid give?
Arsinoe - Today at 3:30 AM
Unsure of the number.
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 3:31 AM
Ok what about dgs
What if nation decided not to do titan for a long time lol
I mean they said west can do it when nation doin titan yea
NuLL - Today at 3:32 AM
Nation will keep doing Titan
Its to good and to easy to not do
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 5:58 AM
What is the final Decision?
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:29 AM
lol i think everyone is sleeping. long day. hi Venaga
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:31 AM
Hellllooo, yea i was sleeping at the time of meeting lol
The difference of time zones so bad :(
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:33 AM
r u in singapore too??
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:34 AM
Nope jordan, middle east if u heard of
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:34 AM
ohhh yeah ofc
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:34 AM
But still reset time for me like 3am
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:34 AM
ahhhh
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:35 AM
Yea :slight_frown:
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:38 AM
i feel ur pain is sucks trying to play with NA ppl wen they are on the complete opposite time
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:39 AM
Yea i guess only the time overlap with na ppl is only at their morning time
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:39 AM
well lucky for u alot of red bull drinking night owls here lol
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:40 AM
Yea lol its weird u still up late hahaha
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:41 AM
ohhh u have no idea it my lifestyle lol. im a bartender and work the late night shift so im so use to this schedule. i tell ppl im a asian vampire lol
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:43 AM
Looool :joy: :joy: :joy:  for me i can't stay up so late lol, im from those ppl sleeping early and wake up early lol:joy:
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:44 AM
there nothing wrong with that. i wish i was able to do that lol. but then i would miss out on all the late night aa mischief lol
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:45 AM
Lol yea thats true
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:47 AM
plus vegas is so freaking hot in the summer that i like to avoid the sunlight lol. vampire status XD.
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 6:48 AM
Omg lol im like almost though u really a vampire   awake at nights Lol
U drinks blood too? Lol jk  :stuck_out_tongue:
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 6:50 AM
I am in agreement with what Jack said >i am gonna wait and see what bosslady has to say but i will be fine with this rules if they share 1 dgs everyday with west not just on TW days + removing that rule for abby that west has to mine outside crystal and them getting middle
we can mine outside crystals first but after they disappear we will go mid to mine
But I would like to meet with our group regarding this
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 6:51 AM
morning mama pebbs
lol nah no blood. red gatorade if that counts LOL
Arsinoe - Today at 7:52 AM
When do we all want to meet today?
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 7:53 AM
Jack and me work all day
Arsinoe - Today at 7:56 AM
Well considering Bron was really pushing having an answer by morning, perhaps we can get her to agree that if we say yes to ally but continue talks about altering the schedule, that should seem ok?
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 7:58 AM
Jack and myself both stated above what our thoughts were to her proposal
Can't say I trust them enough to align then work things out
Arsinoe - Today at 7:59 AM
Have you guys sent her the suggestion?
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 7:59 AM
We didnt plan on it till we met with our group
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 8:00 AM
They have to understand this was tossed together at the last minute
Arsinoe - Today at 8:01 AM
Mhmm, all of this is very rushed
Jarsh - Today at 8:23 AM
I think, that we should rotate content between nation and west. They still get thunderwing, thats fine. But I want abyssal to be like it was before, not ''west only mines outer crystal'' bullshit
We get DGS on thunderwing days, on other days its split 1/1
We should use the fact that they're being pressured to maintain peace to our advantage. We just have to put pressure on them to force their hand. Split content or enjoy getting no content at all. West has NOTHING to lose and they have EVERYTHING.
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Don't go rushing into something that they're clearly getting a better deal out of. Its their job to maintain peace or suffer the consequences.
Its really not asking a lot to rotate RD. If we are to do RD, they cannot do it on their alts. I've seen them try and fail
It was brought up to me however that RD was out of the question, like west didn't want to do RD? I mean Its not a hard fight to learn but I thought we were fighting for west to have an opportunity to do their own content.
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 8:36 AM
I agree that abyssal should be like the old pattern by all of ppl go mine side crystal then go to mid
And no alts and gears requirements i guess should be fine
Yes make rules that suits us not them for our  benefits
^_^ - Today at 1:11 PM
So did we decide what we want to do?
Arsinoe - Today at 1:14 PM
I am in support of having Abyssal return to the way it use to be, everyone clearing out outer crystals and going back for middle. Gear score requirement can be enforced.

1 DGS every day as well.
I feel RD Is a big demand and don't think will budge.
^_^ - Today at 1:15 PM
Fk the gs requirements too
No one owns Abby to put rules
No alt is the rule that is fair for everyone
Arsinoe - Today at 1:17 PM
I dont think the GS requirement of 5kish isnt bad though
We have to keep in mind both parties demands
^_^ - Today at 1:17 PM
We have ppl in west that are main but low gs
I don't think its fair to denie the a faction event duo to their low gs
Content sure
But faction event they should be able to go
Arsinoe - Today at 1:19 PM
Well I am fine with or without a GS requirement on abyssal.
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 1:19 PM
I think as long as you can be vouched for as a main GS doesn't bother me
NuLL - Today at 1:19 PM
I would say we should exchange 1 kraken for 1 dgs everyday and mining center crystal when outer ones are done
And  gs shouldn't be a problem as long as its a main and someone trusted knows the person(edited)
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 1:20 PM
They said we could have kraken twice a week
Arsinoe - Today at 1:21 PM
People would have to make east alts to be able to kill it like they are doing now
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 1:21 PM
But the rule of DGS only when they busy isn't fair
NuLL - Today at 1:21 PM
Yeah kraken is incredibly hard now so they probably don't want to deal with it themselves
So fuck that they can have 1 more day
Give us 1 dgs everyday and full abyssal
^_^ - Today at 1:22 PM
I agree Scarlett 1 dgs and fuck the police
Arsinoe - Today at 1:23 PM
So we want to propose the idea of 1 DGS every night instead of 2 Krakens and then restore Abyssal to how it was?
^_^ - Today at 1:24 PM
Face palm
No
Kraken and rd is fine
1 dgs a day + after we mine outside crystals we go mine mid
NuLL - Today at 1:25 PM
We can do it that way but I'm going to be honest
From what I hear, we will have a very hard time with kraken with the new changes
And that will be our mains so I don't know how we will do it with alts
^_^ - Today at 1:27 PM
Are they expecting us do it with alts?
Arsinoe - Today at 1:27 PM
Yes.
NuLL - Today at 1:27 PM
You have to
Kraken goes green
^_^ - Today at 1:27 PM
Hm
NuLL - Today at 1:27 PM
So you can't kill it with anything else(edited)
^_^ - Today at 1:27 PM
. hm
Arsinoe - Today at 1:27 PM
We've been out there as they struggled with trying to down Kraken with red alts, its a big hassle
^_^ - Today at 1:28 PM
Well tbh we can figure how we gonna kill kraken later
From my understanding if u DOS kraken with alts it will become that faction tag
We can start tanking it with main we just need alts to DPS on cannon(edited)
NuLL - Today at 1:29 PM
Yes but you need to keep one red alive at all times
^_^ - Today at 1:30 PM
That's my understanding from it so idk
NuLL - Today at 1:30 PM
So you need at least a full boat of reds
Also
Kraken is buffed
^_^ - Today at 1:30 PM
Ya I heard
NuLL - Today at 1:30 PM
I heard last noght when they did it in our meeting
Neachan got one shot
And exiia with 60k hp almost got one shot
^_^ - Today at 1:31 PM
From slam?
NuLL - Today at 1:31 PM
Kraken now aggro on ships and components
So aggro management is shit
^_^ - Today at 1:32 PM
I know that we don't have any experienced healer to tank kraken
So I know kraken is not going to be a easy boss to kill
But also I don't think its gonna be impossible for us to kill it
Arsinoe - Today at 1:34 PM
It will just take some baby steps
^_^ - Today at 1:34 PM
Exactly
We can figure it out
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 1:35 PM
Yea just focus now on what u need, later on u can try figure it out lol
So  everyon now is here what everyone want lets agree on some stuff 1st
^_^ - Today at 1:36 PM
Yep right now I want to make sure west can get 1 dgs a day and we can get equal amount of packs from abby
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 1:37 PM
Yea for me its fine abyss go back to normal
Arsinoe - Today at 1:37 PM
I think everyone is on the same page of the 1 DGS per day and restore Abyssal to the way it was.(edited)
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 1:37 PM
And 1 dgs for west per day
Yes
need someone to speak out for them of what we want as a whole west
Arsinoe - Today at 1:40 PM
Who wants to approach Bron?
Be prepared for her to push back on our proposition as well
Arsinoe - Today at 2:04 PM
Anyone?
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 2:04 PM
r u doing this in dm's or comms??
Arsinoe - Today at 2:04 PM
We can do either
^_^ - Today at 2:10 PM
I will msg them
Arsinoe - Today at 2:23 PM
How is it going, Jack?
^_^ - Today at 2:24 PM
They won't send allie if that's the case
Thunda msg just ally east and kill west
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 2:24 PM
Waw really
Arsinoe - Today at 2:24 PM
If we don't agree to their schedule?
^_^ - Today at 2:25 PM
Yes
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 2:25 PM
Who in east he will ally LOL
^_^ - Today at 2:25 PM
Up to u guys now
Arsinoe - Today at 2:25 PM
What does everyone think? Either we take the schedule as is or continue fighting?
^_^ - Today at 2:26 PM
Yes
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 2:26 PM
I think this needs to be discussed with our groups & guild
^_^ - Today at 2:27 PM
I say take the offer for now
Arsinoe - Today at 2:27 PM
I also say that we should take the offer as is.
Something is better than absolutely nothing.
In my eyes
^_^ - Today at 2:28 PM
I am going to work discussing this and let me know
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 2:29 PM
I dont think we have been given enough time to discuss this with the west and guilds
Arsinoe - Today at 2:29 PM
We don't have a lot of time to make this decision though
^_^ - Today at 2:33 PM
Actually I changed my mind I prefer fighting them fk the police
What do we got to lose
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 2:34 PM
lol i say fight too but thats cuz we crazy fucks
Arsinoe - Today at 2:39 PM
I think its in our best interest to take the offer as of right now. Like we discussed yesterday evening, if we continued to fight, all experienced raid leads are not able to take control of raids right now and west pugs may lose steam and interest in fighting at any point and then we'd be left with a small force to fight nation + any transfers they have come in.
Our resources are tied up right now and unable to be fully utilized.
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 2:41 PM
i didnt wanna say nothing b4 cuz i felt like i dont know this server but i do feel like u guys who have been on this server and are familiar with this server are unhappy and obviously feel like u are not equal with the ppl u fought with and helped out are now getting the shitty end of the stick. If this schedule is a consensus vote for yes i will vote for yes. but remember this is something the west did decided to take. so if later on down the road the faction does not feel like its okay the nation will most likely not take it seriously. I just hate seeing nice ppl get fucked over especially wen they put in just as much man power and effort as the other group.(edited)
^_^ - Today at 2:50 PM
If we agree to this terms right now and 1-2 week from now we denie the alliance than we are really fucked because at that point we look like we betrayed them
We can accept this offer and once we done that nation will be allied to west forever I won't step in any kinda fight with west vs nation and I will find a different way to
 fighting with pn(edited)
ᗷᗩᒪᗪƳ🍆💧💧💧💧 - Today at 2:58 PM
i agree and if we go back on terms set. we are no better then the PN we all complain about who changes terms all the time. if we hold our ground and show them that they are still not treating the west faction as a equal. we can finally get a offer that is both equal, fair, and benefit both sides. We can all see that the PN is the one losing out on more things then West is. that dude spryto was so excited to run packs but was worry if we would gank him lol.
Beyonce - Today at 3:18 PM
At the end of the day, there really isnt any pressure to solve this problem now, especially if the terms still suite them
At the end of the day, in order for them to have content, we have to allow it, we can not fight so hard to get power just to give it back
It is my opinion that we do not agree on terms, until everyone is happy with everything
so that we do not look like hyprocite
at the end of the day, we are not player nation, we have to Hold ourselves at a higher standards, where our word, must have weight to it
They need us more than we need them,
They have suffered for a week and started realizign that they have to meet us in the middle but even then, they arent doing that entirely, I say we should  settle for what we think we deserve
If you guys want a yes, I’ll vote for it as well but, remember after we ally with them, there’s no more negotiation , they will have deafen ears
^_^ - Today at 3:31 PM
We got 1 hour to get bk to dajaco
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 4:29 PM
So hmmm??
The final decision is?
They send the ally request
^_^ - Today at 4:47 PM
Idk I leave that in your hands
Denie it if u want to fight accept it if u want peace
I also like to know what everyone else in west feel about this
𝕭𝖔𝖘𝖘𝕷𝖆𝖉𝖞 - Today at 4:52 PM
We have said our peace
AvoVena 🌸 - Today at 5:04 PM
Will wait for our guys to be on as well to discuss it